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by chuckb on Aug 3, 2008 10:30 PM EDT
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Just to clarify for Joe Morgan
the balk was called because the pitcher stepped toward home plate.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
thanks
I’ve always loved that “quote”. Not sure exactly what the hell it means, but it’s creative as hell
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
This is the Albert Pujols Saves Our Season
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
and a rec
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 3, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's go Albert!!!!
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1 for 11
after this AB
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 3, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
luddy on deck
let him do it if they wont pitch to you
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Don't think they want to face Luddy
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A wild pitch would be fine by me here
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
OK, 3-0 Albert
Do not swing at something a foot out of the zone this time
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walk is a good as a hit Albert
take it
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thank you, Sir.
Luddy, my heart is runnin 90 to nuthin right now! Make us proud!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 3, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
unbelievable
talk about being scared.
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Aight Ludwick
Just find a gap
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Ok Luddy
time to be patient with the bases juiced. None of that swinging at balls in the dirt crap
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
UGGGGGHHHHHHHH
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It was a meat fastball
right in the middle, belt high
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no dp not dp no dp
oh well
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Goddammit!
That really blows. That really, really blows.
OK man seriously
You called me out earlier for saying “doing his girlfriend” because there are kids here, and then you drop a GD bomb and say something blows? You’ve got to be kidding me.
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redbird is right
you are being a hypocrite
first pitch swinging
with the bases loaded, down by 3.
i dont like it, no sir, I dont like it.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
sorry
hurried fingers dont translate too well.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 3, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
too aggressive for sure
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
LUD! HOW COULD YOU????
HE’S THROWN 4 STRAIGHT BALLS & YOU ARE FIRST PITCH SWINGING????
mother of ass
you gotta make him throw strikes man
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it was right down the pipe
make him throw strikes? that’s what he got.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
why would you jump OUT OF THE WAY so the other team can throw!!!
bull shit.
A guy at a bar says to the bartender bring me a big pitcher full of beer. The bartender comes back with Sidney Ponson.
I was thinking that
If Mather like knocked that ball down on purpose, would they call it two outs?
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yup
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
did he not watch albert's at bat??????????
a walk’s a run afterall
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
to be fair
it was right down the pipe, he was clearly sitting on that pitch.
and frankly Luddy has been our entire offense tonight.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
personal attacks are unwelcome in these parts
familiarize yourself with the community guidlines, please.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 3, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry everyone
Brett Favre’s back!
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
i'm a little worried about him
it’s been 5 whole minutes since we’ve had an update.
last we heard he was pooping. i hope every thing come out OK.
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he forgot his fiber supplement
so it didnt go to well, he is like 64 right
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 3, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not upset at Luddy swinging at that
It was a good pitch to hit
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Goodie...now we get to face Manny & the suddenly hot hitting Dodgers
this next week & a half is going to be our undoing I’m afraid.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Luddy, you suck.
Ludwick, why are you such a free swinger? Why couldn’t you take the first pitch? I mean, the guy’s thrown 4 straight balls, and all you gotta do is take it for a ball, then he gets nervous and throws you a hanging, get-my-over curveball that you hit into Big Mac Land?? AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
think maybe he was trying to or even ordered to throw those 4 balls?
TLR preaches an aggressive approach in RBI situations. It’s one of the things that put Kerry Robinson in the doghouse.
I just don't understand you man
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Are you fucking serious?
You’re bitching about a guy who has a double and a hr, and has been pounding the ball the entire past week?
Who cares if it was four straight balls, that was purposeful, it was to Albert Fucking Pujols. Like they are going to give him a stroke
The ball was down the pipe, if he didn’t swing then that’s when you bitch, not for that.
Jeebus
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This is going to be an awful loss to sit on
for two days.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
even so
best of best you get a hit one in three times. a walk is no risk rbi. make him work
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Izturis may suck
but his arm is a hell of a lot better than Miles. Up 3-1 of Izturis is playing short.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
Why does Miles play so much SS when we have Ryan AND Izturis?
I’ve never heard Tony answer this.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
but I betchya it'd be a fantastic hissyfit if he got asked...
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I imagine a certain pregame bat
would somehow be involved in his violent threat.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's just talking about defense
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This is just sad.
I live in Milwaukee, so my friends are gonna give me hell,
Boo Hoo
I live in Chicago.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Yet another first pitch disaster
How many times have we seen that this year. We’ve had the patience to get a lot of walks early but when th game is on teh line late we’re first pitch hacking and invariably, first pitch “outing”. Madsen just throws 4 balls, granted it’s to APu. Ludwick was overeager. Maybe he felt that Madsen would try to hard to make a strike after the four balls. But so what, take a pitch, make him pitch to you….
TLR needs to institute a fine for this.
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Well, if you really think about it...
The last time Luddy swung at the first pitch, he hit one 410 feet. Since he’s just thrown four balls, that’s exactly why he’s swinging, because he knows that he’ll throw a get-me-over meatball at about 90 mph,so he can hammer it again. That’s acually a good decision.
whatever it is
i hope it keep working
nice inning Frank
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the killer tonite
hitting in to like 4 double plays!!! talk about a rally killer that’s the villian tonite
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The killer is that Wellsie finally found his old ways back again
and it was completely wasted
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
On the bright side....
Franklin might be “turning the corner.”
Glaus: Tip
turn into curves, not backwards.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
I'd rather he turn into that.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
If I'm a phillies fan i'm annoyed that lidge isn't coming
right at glaus
santa
OFF THE POLE !<img src="#$" alt="" />#$$!@
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
SANTA!!!!
That Pujols non-walk is looming large right about now
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OH HELL YEAH TROY!!!!
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take a pitch luddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
give troy a chance
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
he'e just like a knuckle baller
if it’s high let it fly. if it’s low let it go
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luddy looked like he got too excited
a belt high fastball almost same location as the hr earlier. after simmering on it, you cannot fault him for that was a gift for a fan in the stands; he just got too excited and missed it. its a shame though that he made such poor contact and after that glaus hr it hurts more cause he couldn’t get a base hit or sac fly
I'm really surprised Lidge threw that right there
On the previous pitch it was pretty apparent Glaus was looking fastball
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Molina (out), Miles, and Stache?
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mmm food.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 3, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Now in this situation, with hopefully lessons learned
if Molina gets on, I’d let Rick bat again
that’s just being optimistic though
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
That was the farthest ball he's ever hit.
Now, if only SOMEONE had gotten in a run with ONE OUT and the BASES LOADED, that could be a walk-off.
nooooooo
it would have tied the game
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 3, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, let’s keep bitching about Luddy
Oh, by the way, if it wasn’t for him…
we’d be down by 3 right now, not one
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I like AMILES....
but he’s had a brutal game at the dish.
Speaking of overeager....Grit that pitch wa 55 ft!
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
C'mon Grit
YOU need to take a strike
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Miles looked terrible on that first pitch
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you gotta get on Mini ME
you just gotta
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What happened to Grit's
awesome late gameness?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
There it is
Keep dissing our players, man, it’s working!!
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YEAH
come on Rick, dont get yourself out!
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Come on Rick
End this thing…in a good way.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
Miles owns Lidge
always hits him.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
who are these assholes booing Miles?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Miles sucks. He looks sick against Lidge.
Not much of a home run threat (or a threat at all.)
that was a ank homer special ball
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 3, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
PH Ank?
but won’t Lidge walk him to get to Iz2?
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He can bunt 'em over.
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Yeah Rick!!
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holy hell what was that????
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FLY BALL TIES IT
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 3, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
FLY BALLL TIES IT
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Holy crap
I just realized David Price hasn’t lost a single game in the minors yet.
Man, I wish he was in our system. That would be awesome.
Also—go Rick. I wish you could run better, but we’ll take that.
too bad
dp still in order
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Squeeze play?
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not with the lefty.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
he can just switch to righty
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 3, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
that wouldn't be to obvious.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
they thought he would do it anyway
then take it off, mess with them
huge mind games, he cant hit from either side
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 3, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish Rick could have made it to 2nd.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Hmmm. we could have bases loaded, tie game, 2 outs and AP at bat
that’s a scenario I’d like to see!
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
I will kill Tony if he tries some squeeze shit here....
but you know he’ll want to show the national audience how amazing he is…..it won’t work!
It's not a bad call with Izturis at the plate
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yes it is with him hitting lefty.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM
GOSH
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 3, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
if Izturis gets a sac fly here
I will crap my pants, then not bitch about him for a week
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
that was the pitch to bunt
change up
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what if he gets a hit?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
1-1
Good count to squeeze on
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iZ2 you suck so much
but if you get a hit here, i’ll lay off of you for a whole week
i swear
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i'll let him off
for a fly ball
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I just realized something.
Izturis is completely overmatched here.
Lidge not throwing FB here
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and with that said,
best health to him. Sorry, but my desire to win got ahead of my morals.
On with the (good) youth movement!
YES!!!!!!!!!
Best result for us, as long as he isn’t hurt
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eh
lol, jk
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
COULDN'T GET OUT OF THE WAY IF HE WANTED TO
PERFECT
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 3, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
that works too IZ2
way to take one for the team
you’re OK. walk it off man. walk it off
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took it for the team
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
lidge
doesn’t deserve this now. hitting iz2 is undeniably stupid
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Stache and pitchers
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We need Sno Cones
cause tonight, we dine in hell!
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
I hope he doesn't come out
We’d have to put Yadi or LaRue somewhere other than catcher
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Squeeze now? Probably not with bases loaded
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
That HBP nearly knocked Is2 over
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
let's go Stav Infection
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STILL NEED A DEEP FLY BALL HERE
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 3, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
repeat, Lidge cannot locate FB
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lidge carves up
rookies
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
He's making me puke with those swings.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Rookies versus Lidge...
I can’t say I feel great about Stav and Mather seeing a steady diet of Lidge sliders.
All sliders so far
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Ooph
All up to the Bomberman. If he walks, Pujols comes up
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steady diet.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
trying way too hard bro
it’s all up to Bombs now
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look for the slider, Joey
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pathetic
looked like he’d never batted before
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
lay off the rook
lidge is pretty good, remember?
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by themanthemyth on Aug 3, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
sO BRUTAL.....YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO THROW SPLITTERS
THAT’S A REFLECTION ON YOUR HITTING COACH
You have no idea what youre talking about.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Hell I'd take a walk-off bloop single
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dont swing at the junk Bombs!
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wp or passed ball
our best hope
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
That blows.
Now we need a hit. As Dora would say, “Say it with me!”
mother of ass
stop swinging at the junk
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depending on rookies
sucks
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Come on, Bomberman.
Dear Lord, I’m sorry for all the bad things I’ve ever done.
Crappy loss
They got our hopes up twice and dumped on us
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That's where rookies hurt us.
Mather was in a pretty bad situation, though, after the horrible AB from Stavinoha.
don't see many sliders in Memphis
part of the learning process.
Again I say: all that separates us from the Phillies is a pen, Rollins, and Utley. Maybe just the Pen and Utley.
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Where was Tony's button pushing there.
I’m kinda shocked he let two players who had never seen Lidge face him in a row. Of all the times to sit on your hands.
Who else?
LaRue? Looper?
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Who else was gonna bat?
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LaRussa runs the bench out early
two rookies in a row end the game. I don’t feel a lot of sympathy for TLR there.
I never feel sorry for LaRussa.
I was simply pointing out that Tony had already pushed all his buttons. As usual, he did it a little soon. He has really been overmanaging lately.
well, that was fun
two straight innings of only needing a FLY OUT, and we can’t do it. All we asked you guys to do was make an out that wasn’t swinging or in the infield—it wasn’t that much!
On with the (good) youth movement!
especially the kids.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Yeah, he seems to be a bit split personality tonight.
You have to get the emotions under control, man. You are going to have a coronary at a young age.
and after apolozing for all the bad stuff youve ever done
you say that? wow.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 3, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
dammit
you should not be able to record a save when you pitch that awful
should've swept
Had enough SP this series.
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i'd like to thank our outstanding hitting coach
for instilling in our young hitters the knowledge they need to be successful against a guy with only two pitches.
oh wait,,,,
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Seriously?
It’s not like the guy has 31 straight saves or anything.
How about we direct our disdain where it belongs: the noodle arm backup 2B playing SS and the manager who loves him.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
No turning
of easy double play to end the 8th scoreless.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Like hell it was
why was it a tough play? Pujols fed him perfectly and the return throw had no zip on it, as per usual.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with gdm426
that noodle arm 2b was standing on 3rd ready to tie the game. The last two AB’s hurt worse.
yeah seriously HL
i’m surprised at your reaction. you’ve been one of Hal’s biggest critics here. you’re the last person i’d expect to defend him.
it’s his job to tell the rookies what to expect. and he didn’t do it.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
on the flip side - Hal could have told them just that about the sliders
and they were just overmatched. You dont see pitches like that in Memphis.
this whole bash McRae thing is making my head hurt.
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mine too
the man hasn’t done his job in 2 years. how he’s still employed is beyond me
those two kids had no chance up there & he didn’t do his job & try to help them out.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
how could you really, help that situation out?
i mean seriously.
so you’re saying I could get a better bench coach to tell anyone how to hit lidge and they’d just do it?
look, we beat on lidge like a step child before, but make no mistake, his slider is drop dead nasty
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree that the approach looked bad
but, lets say he did ‘coach em up’. Mather is what you could call a free swinger – tongue in cheek. with his habits and the heat of the moment, its possible you could have replaced the Hardee’s sign with a neon – DONT SWING AT THE SLIDER – and he still might have poked at it.
what are you talking about?
were you in the dugout? In the pregame film session? Was he supposed to hit FOR them?
Drop the act. I don’t think you’re this dense. You’re obviously putting on an act and the act has worn thin and is extremely tiresome.
Good night. I’m outta here.
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I appoligize for the dense comment
but I truly believe you are just mad and are looking for someone to blame. Who better than the hitting coach? Whatever.
And if it’s not an act, then I don’t know what to say. Was I ticked about the outcome? Yeah, but I think blaming the hitting coach for the performance of 2 rookie hitters is misguided. Maybe my comment was out of line, I don’t know. I apologize if I spoke out of line.
Sorry. I didn’t mean the dense comment as a shot. I think you are a thoughtful poster who has decided to blame the wrong person in an effort to find someone to blame. Hopefully it was done more out of confusion than spite. And I hope you can accept my apology.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
i assume you are talking to me, if not, just ignore me
i accept our apology. and i take some blame in how you responded in the first place because i was not making my point clear. and i am sorry for that.
i’m not placing sole blame of this loss on Hal’s shoulders. far from it. i only fault him for what i rightly or wrongly, perceive at his inability to do his job & prepare hitters for their at bats. the Cards didn’t lose because of Hal. they lost because they allowed the Phillies to score more runs than they did. it was a team wide loss. heck both Lud & Albert failed to come through last night in big spots. they have much more experience than Stav Infection & Bombs. they must take some blame for that loss. old reliable Russ gave up the lead late in the game. he really must shoulder the load for the loss. we can question some of Tony’s moves as well. we can question Tadallions pitch selection. how dare he give up a solo home run! (that’s sarcasm folks)
so no, i’m not only blaming Hal. far from it. and as i said, if i learn he did in fact beat it into the kids heads to lay off the junk, i’ll eat whatever crow i have coming my way. this was such an important game, they all are. and for them to come so close to winning the game, and in the end lose it, i just have a hard time accepting it. that and the fact that they are flawed team, perhaps beyond repair, for this season at least.
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You're one hell of a teacher.
You can impact a pupil in less than a week’s worth of time in order to cause him to forget his instincts and just do what you tell him, huh? Wow. They should pay you more.
Players have to execute. Mather was hosed when he fouled off the first pitch. The following two sliders were too close to let go, and too tough to hit. Stavinoha is not a ML hitter, yet. He has proven that since he’s been up, and he faced a guy that makes very, very, very good hitters look silly.
news flash, i'm not MO. i'm not taking any bullets for the team
i get you all are pissed, but don’t take your anger out on me. i made some damn valid points & if you dont agree with me fine, but dont jump down my throat.
rigosnell, you could very well be right. but we didn’t see that happen. i’m going on past experience here when it comes to my criticism of Hal. i haven’t seen him talk to a hitter before his at bat in a key situation in years. if ever some kids needed an extra reminder to not swing at the junk it was in that 9th inning. if it comes out that he did indeed talk to the two kids, i’ll gladly eat some crow.
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Look, I'm not jumping down your throat, but ...
you can’t just blame coaching because two rookies with very long swings can’t hit one of the best sliders in baseball.
The best you are going to do with that last minute advice you are describing is to make the hitter tentative. The only chance either of them had was to let their instincts take over. Lidge throws damn hard, and neither of these kids have seen that level of pitcher enough to know, intuitively, what to do in those situations.
In addition, you can criticize McRae if you like; but LaRussa preaches an aggressive approach to those situations. Last night he was very clear that the Cards were too tentative. You think those two rookies didn’t hear that criticism? You think that those two rookies were going to stand by and watch strike three after last night?
you have to be aggressive, but you also have to be smart
Lidge leans on his slider in tight situations, and he throws it to inexperienced hitters almost exclusively when they face him the first few times. Hal should have told them that, they should have been ready for it.
i disagree that Hal reminding Stav Infection & Bombs to lay off the junk will do nothing but make them tentative. when one of your boss’s reminds you about an important aspect of your job, do you freeze up? for your sake i hope not.
they are both good hitters & they both can handle themselves. they have proven they have what it takes to hit big league pitchers, otherwise they wouldn’t be here. i highly doubt Hal giving them a reminder to lay off the junk would have freaked them out. had they seen a slider like Lidges before? i doubt it. but with all the video the Cards watch, i would hope they had seen it there & had been coached on what situations he throws it the most. i know watching it on video & actually standing in the box with the bases loaded, bottom 9, down by 1 run is a lot, i say A LOT different. but they still could have been & should have been better prepared.
and who’s job is it again to prepare young hitters? my point exactly.
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whoa whoa whoa
Hal should have told them that, they should have been ready for it.
I don’t think I’m the first to ask, but how do you know what Hal tells them and what he doesn’t tell them? Seems like a silly argument to me.
perhaps my problem is i am expecting too much out of them
and Hal. as i said, i have no idea what Hal did or did not say to them. but to me, their at bats looked like those of kids who had no idea what was going on. who else do we point the finger at when this happens? i may be wrong, but i dont like how they looked. i think all hitters should walk up to the plate & have some idea of what to expect the pitcher will throw at them. young or old you have to be prepared. if not, you are doomed to fail.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I understand your points, but your expectations seem to be unrealistic.
As you stated, regardless of the advice, it is a much different thing to know that you should lay off a pitch and actually doing it.
Your analogy to my job is a pretty difficult one to make. Few of us that post here have jobs that are based so heavily on instinctive reaction versus cognitive decision. Few of us that post here have jobs that under such significant pressure on such an high profile stage. So, to try to compare my boss reminding me of an aspect of my job to being told to second guess my own pitch recognition just before going to bat in the bottom of the ninth in front of 40,000 fans is a drastic oversimplification, and I think you know it.
By your statements, no hitter should ever go through a protracted slump of any kind. After all, all he would need is for McRae to tell him to stop flying his front shoulder open. Or maybe to just watch the ball all the way into the mitt. There is no difference between that and telling a couple of rookies to not swing at a slider just before they go see it for the first time.
I really don’t see how you can make that claim.
This was pretty much a team effort, here.
The only one that can’t really take any blame is Wellemeyer. He left with a lead. Everybody else pretty much made some kind of serious failure or mistake.
hahaha
in all fairness, you’re talking about two guys with barely a month’s experience trying to hit arguably one of the best sliders in the game…tough break tonight
no kidding
apparently no one bothered to tell them he throws nasty sliders. Just think if they knew that kind of information.
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I hope those aren't the same ones saying that coaches don't belong in the HOF.
Would seem to be a bit hypocritical to blame the coach here then, wouldn’t it?
two completely helpless looking ab's
from two undisciplined rooks. that makes me sick.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."
what a fucking terrible baseball game
and I can’t even blame this one LaRussa. This team just flat out sucks sometimes.
boo cubs, hooray beer
If Albert takes that one ball back in the 4th inning or whatever
We’re headed to extras right now
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the only thing about the rooks...
the people bashing them now are hopefully not the same people who were crying about selling the farm system for help now.
Terrible AB's by.....
our two rookies. I’m sorry, but Stav has no business being on the roster. Call up Barton, heck, call up Phelps or Rico.
not Rico
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Calling up Rico
either was sarcasm or a certain lack of understanding of our farm system.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Rico would have put the ball in play.....
There is something to be said about having a more veteran (even if that doesn’t translate to experience) bat on your bench. You can’t keep calling on kids, kids that are all or nothing type hitters, to come through in pinch hitting situations. There is NO excuse for taking some of the cuts they took. We needed a sac fly, a base hit, anything, and they are trying to hit the ball 500 feet.
RIDICULOUS!!!!!
No way
Rico is possibly the worst player we’ve had this year. If you really would have rather had Rico batting than Joe Mather or Nick Stavinoha then I kindly disagree with you. I’ll take Mather or Stav every time.
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In that situation.....
I take him every time over Stav, and might take him over Mather. Mather hasn’t figured out that you don’t have to hit a HR every AB. Sorry, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves. Mather knows he has a long swing, knows Lidge has a good fastball and a good, hard slider, and he is still swinging for the fence 3 times.
No excuse for that, other than bad baseball.
Rico couldn't put a fastball in play all season
I doubt very much he’d be any better vs Lidge’s slider.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Stavinoha didn't swing for the fences
he tried to hit the first pitch fastball strike that he got and it was still unhittable under his hands.
After that, the slider had him beat.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Never ever swing at Lidge's first three pitches
He throws the slider 90% of the time in a high leverage situation, and it’s never in the zone. Just take it.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
I'd like to thank Russ Springer as well
for making me lose my final bit of hope in our bullpen. A homerun to shane victorino? really Russ?
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It was his tenth of the year
It’s not like he let Cesar Izturis hit one
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it's not as bad as Cesar, but it is still bad
If you get beat by Shane Victorino, well…you sucked.
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Hmm
Ask Bill Wagner if So can hit one out
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Cubs are officially running away with the division it would appear
not that I doubted they’d win it. But I was really hoping for it not to happen.
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i know
but that looks like a pipe dream at this point as well with our inability to win when mil loses
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what are you talking about?
they were four games up on us just a week ago.
On with the (good) youth movement!
That my friends
is the difference between Memphis and the Big Leagues. Both of our AAAA outfielders were overmatched like little leaguers facing high school pitching. It wasn’t fair.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
80% of MLB batters would be too
let’s demote them all!!
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Really AAAA?
How about you give them a chance before declaring them AAAA. I’ve seen Lidge make future HOFer’s look stupid. Pretty dumb statement there chief.
boo cubs, hooray beer
+1
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
the kids were out of the frying pan & into the fryer
tonight thats for sure. can’t blame them for trying. at least they went down swinging.
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Well thank goodness Mather has only been up for a month
we needed to keep trotting a half-crippled Chris Duncan out there to get his service time up.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
4A?
ridiculous.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
I sometimes forget
isn’t Lidge like the best closer in the game right now?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Who cares.....
Doesn’t mean you have to swing at his crap, and try to hit it 500 feet when a sac fly or base hit will do.
how do you know they weren't trying to hit a sac fly?
Lidge’s slider makes batters look foolish. Go look at MOST of Pujols’ ABs against Lidge.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
My angst is still on the 8th inning bp management
The rest I’m ok with. Two rookies can’t hit one of the best (if not the best sliders in the game), that’s ok. down the middle ball into a dp, that’s ok
removing k-mac when he has a kickass lhb split, idiotic
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
It almost seemed as if Jamie AND Russ were rushed into the game
like they had no idea it was coming. K-Mac should have stayed in.
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 3, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Kmac should be our setup man anyway other than a few mistakes this year, hes proved he can get
outs. Springer coming into the situation, I dont argue, but Kmac should not have been pulled in the 1st place. I just cant take the pitching carousel innings that Tony does most of the time. Ill get hammered for this, but Tony lost that game in the 8th with the BP moves.
by buzzburton33 on Aug 3, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd argue Springer
in this context, we’re going to burn him out pretty quick. he should have the day off tonight
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
In defense of my comment, Russ wouldnt have had to come in if Kmac was left in there,
but with all things considered in how things played out, I didnt have a problem with Russ there because he as been pretty reliable since May.
by buzzburton33 on Aug 3, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
true
just with his age and all I’m worried about burning him out by end of Aug
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Lidge can't throw strikes
He let’s batters get themselves out by swinging at the slider. If you just lay the bat on your shoulder until he has to throw you a fastball, he’s eminently hittable.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
Actually, Lidge has been throwing strikes this year
which is why he has been vastly improved this year. When he can locate his slider for strikes, he’s down right filthy. That being said , we had him on the ropes tonight and let him go.
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Good point but
it is hard to lay off that slider when it looks like it is right down the middle before dropping off the table. Truly nasty pitch. You would have to have a lot of experience to recognize it and not take a cut.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
You just have to trust your scouting report
Anyone who watches him pitch knows he throws nothing but the slider when he’s in trouble, and he doesn’t locate it all that well. Just trust the book and you can get yourself in an advantageous position.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Aug 3, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a funeral at Busch on the radio
funeral music by Ernie Hayes….might be the funeral for our season tonight though. You just CAN’T loose a series like this an expect to be a wild card contender. It will take a miracle now for us to even THINK about sniffing October.
The season was over with the Brewers sweep
no one told management, though.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
oh calm down
we’re still one game out.
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 3, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
all off of one series?
wow. considering we just held one of the most potent offenses down to marginal runs, and were right in the mix during all three…
glad we’re so shitty though.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
We play 10 straight games
vs LAD, CHC and FLA, in Chicago and Florida for those games.
Giving away games vs the Brewers, Braves and now Philadelphia adds up. We will be very lucky to not be 10 games out of the division and 5 back in the WC by the time we head to Cincy.
The Brewers on the other hand play Cincy, San Diego and Washington.
This was to be expected. I hope guys like Looper, Lohse, etc can pass through waivers for some deadline deals.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on who he has to pass
to. The teams most interested in him may be slightly out of the Wild Card lead.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 3, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Looper ain't worth crap to anybody else.....
And we’ll either resign Lohse, or get draft picks for him.
Quit giving up on the team. Actually, quit acting like a baby. If you truly thought our season was over, you wouldn’t be HERE every night.
Someone is throwing a tantrum tonight
We won’t get the two Type A picks for Lohse. We’d be much better off getting a known minor league player for Lohse.
Giving up on winning this season and not following the team are two different things.
But, continue your tantrum. 500 feet!!!!
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
take a look at our schedule
it’s not going to be easy pickings for us anytime soon. You just can’t lose a series like this at home and expect that we are going to be serious contenders. If we could hit Cubs pitching I might be more hopeful. Yeah we can beat the weak teams like the Braves but we just can’t seem to win a series against any of the contenders since July.
Since that Mets series at the beginning of July
(a month now) we have been playing like a 3rd or 4th place team. We can beat the weak teams like the Padres and Braves but we end up going 1-2 against contending teams (Mets/Phils/Cubs) or even getting swept by the Brewers. Since early July we are not playing like a play-off contender. And this comes at the worst time becasue we are on a strech here where we are playing the best teams in the NL. Unless we find some kind of spark and our offense gets on a roll and we can win 7-8 games in a row…it’s going to be real tough for us.
I WOULD like to thank Todd Wellemeyer
for a masterful performance tonight, same with Looper last night.
boo cubs, hooray beer
silver lining
But I fear Wellemeyer’s May-like performance is going to increase the clamor for wainwright to the bullpen….
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 3, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd flip that
welly is making the case for him to be in the bp
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Saw it with my own eyes
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i meant welly in the bp, not waino.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 3, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but that means leaving Pineiro in the rotation.
I’d rather have Wellemeyer in the rotation right now.
I think Pineiro should become the long man and Wainwright into the rotation
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I don't seem him as a bp pitcher anymore
seems like it usually takes him a while to get into a groove (tonight notwithstanding)
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 3, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Hopefully August is just as good for him as May was
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I love Ludwick
but man, 20 of his homeruns are of the solo variety. That’s ridiculous.
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i'm not saying it's his fault
but it’d be nice if he showed that power when men are on base.
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I love Ludwick, too.
I’ll just leave it at that.
I’ve seen Pujols hit into some DPs in big situations, too. It happens. Unfortunately.
Plus
Pujols went 0’fer in a series we lost by a combined 2 runs. Directing your anger at a guy that hit 4 HRs in 3 days seems silly.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to thank Troy Tulo
for sucking so hard at the beginning of the season and getting hurt that I cut him, only to have him WHITE HOT as we go along.
Thanks for that.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions
Jack Buck on the NFL Network
Redskins vs Niners 1983 NFC Championship game.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions
just got home from the memphis redbirds- sacramento river cats game
apparently the triple a can’t manage the bp in late innings…
p.j. walters took a one hitter to the 8th inning (10 K’s by the way, but 4 or 5 walks)- chris perez came in to finish the 8th and did a nice job-
but kelvin jiminez (which everyone knows is Spanish for suck) came in to close the game (why, really? jiminez?) and promptly gave up 3 runs to lose what had been a mostly well pitched game….
saw the crabman- he played right field- and didn’t look real comfortable, but he did score the first run of the game.
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 4, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions
Kelvin Jiminez is spanish for suck
is that the same as Manny Corpas is spanish for ‘Sucks like Fuentes did’?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2008 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
If we want to have meaningful games in September
here is the way we will have to play for the rest of this month to have a chance of still being contenders the final month of the season.
Dodgers at home Take 2-3
Cubs at Wrigley Take 2-3 (A MUST)
Marlins at Miami Take 2-4 (A MUST)
Reds at Cincy take 2-3
Pirates at home sweep those 2
Atlanta at home take 2-3
Brewers at home sweep the 2 game series (A MUST)
Astros at Houston take 2-3
Basically we are going to have to win the rest of each series this month and can’t do any worse than going 16-7 or 15-8. If we can do this we will be in good shape going into the final month of the season with a good shot at the wild card. It’s going to be a big task for this team and they will have to play like they did the first 2 1/2 months of this season to do it. It’s not impossible but it will be real tough.
We have 5 days off this month so that will be a big help
but these next 10 games will make or break us I have a feeling. If we get swept by the Cubs for example it will make it where we pretty much have to sweep out at home with the Pirates/Braves/Brewers series…especially the 2 game Brewers set. Loosing this series to the Phillies was really tough and it basically makes it now where we can’t afford to get swept or lose more than 1 series the rest of this month to really have a shot in my opinion.
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