defy logic
the cardinals sure aren’t giving up; i guess i won’t, either. but it doesn’t look good for them, despite last night’s stirring win. they need to close with a 19-9 or 20-8 run, something like that, just to have a chance; they haven’t posted a run such as that since 2006, and even if they pull it off it won’t be enough unless the brewers cool down some and play .500 or just over the rest of the way. of course, there’s always the possibility that the crew chokes in september and plays sub-.500 ball against an easy schedule, but that is extremely unlikely with sheets and sabathia in the rotation. and whatever the brewers might do, the cards have to worry about the mets and/or phils now as well as the team in front of them. that’s quite a needle to thread; they’re not likely to succeed, but they haven’t stopped trying. and why should they? show up, play, try to win. logic tells us their odds are poor (less than 10 percent, according to BP’s latest odds report), but logic --- like everything else in baseball --- can have an off-year. it’s already having one so far vis-vis the cardinals, whose entire season has defied logic.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
the milwaukee newspaper was full of quotes about carlos villanueva’s indiscretion in the bottom of the 7th, which very obviously fired the cardinals up --- especially el hombre:
"He did us a favor. He woke up a sleeping giant. I congratulate him. They beat us all year long. You don't have to do something stupid like that. I respect the game. I wanted him to know I didn't appreciate that."
more at the post-dispatch and at bernie’s blog.
if the cards somehow manage to pull off a comeback, this game --- and the villanueva flap in particular ---- might be looked back on as The Turning Point. i tried to come up with a list of season-changing moments in the franchise’s history but could come up with very few examples that truly apply. terry pendleton’s homer at shea in september 1987 definitely qualifies, imho. two years later there was one in the opposite direction at wrigley field. the cards led the cubs 2-1 in the 8th and were on the verge of moving past them into first place when a cub batter named dwight smith singled to right and took a very wide turn; tom brunansky threw behind the runner and smith lit out for second, where he was safe. he scored the tying run, and chicago won it in extras, then won the rubber game the next day and never looked back. the cardinals lost 6 in a row; in retrospect, smith’s baserunning play appeared to have deflated them. ankiel’s HGH revelation last year might also be wedged into this category --- the team was surging when the ankiel news broke (in arizona, where the team is now headed), then proceeded to lose 9 in a row. for that matter, you could say that zambrano’s fight w/ michael barrett in the dugout last june (and piniella’s showy ejection the next day) had a galvanizing effect on the cubs; they were 9 games under .500 at the time, but they immediately won 5 of 6 and had climbed back to .500 within a month; they went 63-46 the rest of the way to win the division.
but bona fide turning points (or TPs) are extremely rare, and even when they occur they don’t always change the ultimate outcome --- viz. pujols’ homer off lidge in 2005, the biggest TP in franchise history. everyone was waiting for the astros to collapse after that, but they didn’t; the cards would never hold another lead in the series. i’d like to think that last night’s win (and the villanueva business) tilted the dynamic of the race in the cards’ favor, but i just don’t think it’s very likely.
onward now to houston, where they’ll face two left-handed pitchers (wolf and rodriguez), followed by two more in arizona (big unit and doug davis). since july 1 the cards have faced left-handed starting pitchers 16 times (including last night) and gone 8-8 despite scoring just 51 runs total --- 3.2 a game. maybe that’s why josh phelps was called up. (in case you were wondering, phelps has played one game in the outfield this year at memphis --- the only one in his entire professional baseball career. he has never played the outfield in the majors. . . . . dude’s a pure pinch-hitter. . . . ) the good news about the arizona series is that the cards will miss both haren and webb --- those two are being set up to face the dbacks’ chief pursuers, the dodgers, on saturday and sunday right before the cardinals arrive, and again the following friday and saturday when the dbacks and dodgers meet in los angeles.
items:
- very soon, somebody will hit the 250,000th home run in major league history. dollars to donuts it gets hit by cesar izturis. . . . . btw, anybody remember who scored baseball’s 1 millionth run back in the late 70s / early 80s?
- springfield, still fighting for a playoff spot, won last night to stay within a game of first place. they got a homer from donavon solano, who’s holding his own at double A so far --- .291 / .347 / .384, which is not bad for a 20-year-old second baseman. he’s roughly in the position that jose martinez was in at this time last year.
- if you haven’t shared your evaluations yet in tangotiger’s scouting report by the fans, do it now.
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Best August Game
Ever.
Followed up by the 4th off day in two weeks. Stupid baseball.
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by Alxfritz on Aug 28, 2008 9:19 AM EDT 0 recs
Surprise
I’m still curious why he never went to the DL (and why the brass has seemingly gotten a pass from the media on this). It’s obvious something isn’t right as he’s continually late on pitches and can’t seem to torque through the ball. Hopefully, it wasn’t misdiagnosed and isn’t worse than an ab strain.
by azruavatar on Aug 28, 2008 9:20 AM EDT 0 recs
He needs to sit for the next week
since the club faces four lefties in that span, I don’t see that being a big deal. We get to expand rosters on the 1st, so there’s no reason to DL him now — there wouldn’t be anybody to replace him with anyway.
I don’t understand why they didn’t put him on the DL when he was hurt earlier this year either. Perhaps his psyche is too fragile to be placed on the disabled list or something? Whatever it is, it hurt the ballclub back then more than it’s hurting them now, but the dude needs to get right for the last couple weeks of the season.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Aug 28, 2008 9:30 AM EDT
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He needed
To go on the DL and spend two or three weeks healing up.
by JMedwick on
Aug 28, 2008 9:34 AM EDT
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I agree with that
but there’s no reason to do it now, so why look back on it? There’s obviously some kind of reason why he didn’t go on it either time, it can’t just be coincidence.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Aug 28, 2008 9:42 AM EDT
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Their handling of Ankiel
It’s an embarassment. How do they allow this type of thing to happen over and over again?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on
Aug 28, 2008 10:27 AM EDT
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Over and over?
Are you just referring to the two times that he’s been hurt this year? That’s hardly over and over….
by saladdays on
Aug 28, 2008 10:59 AM EDT
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Players in general
Rolen, Mulder, Ankiel, etc.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on
Aug 28, 2008 1:23 PM EDT
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So what is the big embarrassment?
Not sure what you are actually trying to say, as each player has had different reasons for not performing with the Cards.
by saladdays on
Aug 28, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
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What did they do wrong?
Players get hurt. Sometimes they can play through it, sometimes they can’t. Sometimes it takes trying to play before they know they can’t.
by SoonerfanTU on
Aug 28, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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Consistent underdiagnosis
They damage the club and, sadly, the player by underdiagnosing his injury. This means he missed more time than he would have if they had competently diagnosed it to begin with, in the best case, and, in the worst case, requires season- or career-ending surgery. Now, Ankiel’s situation with this injury has not been as bad as Rolen’s or Mulder’s shoulder, but if they’d have placed him on the DL last month for fifteen days and brought up an OFer, we could have had a bench at full strength and an Ankiel at full strength today. Instead, we played short-handed for weeks and continue to do so. It’s embarassing.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on
Aug 28, 2008 4:37 PM EDT
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How is this the team's fault?
Ever think its just a string of tough injuries/rehabs to diagnose? I bet I can find similiar situations with other teams.
by SoonerfanTU on
Aug 28, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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trot 'em out
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
by giveml on
Aug 28, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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Rick has been hurt for like a month now
and still no DL. Especially at a position where there is so much organizational depth, it doesn’t make sense.
by azruavatar on
Aug 28, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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Can teams force guys to the DL?
I guess you can if the team trainer/doc does not clear them to play….
I wonder why Rick instisted on playing? I guess he always thought he would be better the next day and the next day turned into weeks.
by ICbirdfan on
Aug 28, 2008 4:48 PM EDT
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Making it even worse
Our depth made it even palatable to DL Ankiel. It wasn’t as horrible of a loss as, say, Glaus, because we have ample guys we can plug into Ankiel’s slot. Having someone who can’t field, throw, or run the bases active on your bench is silly.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on
Aug 28, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
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Duncan, Wellemeyer, and Isringhausen. You’re not gritty and hard-nosed if you don’t play hurt. It is better to suck and then get taken out of the lineup so you can reveal that you were hiding an injury.
I don’t think you can blame the medical staff when the team management and, apparently, the players want to play even when they can’t be productive.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
by giveml on
Aug 28, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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wonder if it has to do with his arbitration?
He’s afraid if he goes to the DL he’ll lose money, or something like that?
Or maybe he’s just a BAMF with an intense competitive streak who doesn’t want to sit out?
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on
Aug 28, 2008 11:47 AM EDT
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ha!
somehow i’d never seen the acronym “BAMF” before, and yet, i was able to almost instantly guess what it stands for. i think it helps that the subject was ankiel.
by mattybobo on
Aug 28, 2008 11:50 AM EDT
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I'll go with the BAMF explanation
plus he has Pujols as a teammate to look up to
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 28, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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yeah
pujols is FOR SURE a BAMF!
Pujols is the greatest Cardinal in my lifetime.
by bigcardsfan5 on
Aug 28, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
by iron duke75 on
Aug 28, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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Also, there' s no more outfield help coming
Stavinoha’s already up, Barton’s on the DL, Dunc’s on the DL, and Rasmus isn’t being called up either.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on
Aug 28, 2008 11:09 AM EDT
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Phelps
If he keeps hitting, maybe he could move into a corner spot.
by paposse on
Aug 28, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
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He's played one game in his entire life in the outfield
I know left field is easy to play, but it’s no second base.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on
Aug 28, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
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A week from now
we’ll know if that was any “turning point,” but at this point it was just a great victory, and one that keeps our slim hopes alive.
As TLR just said the other day, if you have be motivated to play a big series, in late August then something is wrong. The Cards have been motivated, hopefully, since Game One of the season, as our esteemed skipper pointed out, so Albert saying Villaneuva “woke up a sleeping giant” is stupid. What were you “sleeping” for in first place, Albert? (I doubt he was.)
It was just something we’’re not used to seeing this year: a come-from-behind victory, so everyone is a little more pumped over this win than the others. However, let’s hope it does something for us – a little added spark, if you will. Since we’ve had no win streaks of note this season, I think our hopes lie more in a Milwaukee collapse than a long Cardinal win streak. But – it can happen!
by ccthemovieman on Aug 28, 2008 9:29 AM EDT 0 recs
Albert respects the game.
And that means you gotta keep your cliches sharp and ready to go.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Aug 28, 2008 9:49 AM EDT
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Write this down....
“I’m happy to be here, I just want to help the ballclub”
“Some days you win, some days you lose, some days it rains. Think about that for a minute.”
“You gotta play em one day at a time”
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Aug 28, 2008 9:52 AM EDT
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Oh..."Shut up Meat."
"Why’s he calling me Meat? I’m the one driving a Porsche. "
by stlfan on
Aug 28, 2008 9:55 AM EDT
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"You don't need a quadraphonic blaupunkt,
what you need is a curveball!!!"
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Aug 28, 2008 10:01 AM EDT
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This is a simple game: You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball
BTW, there is no song by Motley Crue called “Ray Anne” or “Rae Anne” or whatever—so far as I can tell.
But maybe that was meant to further illustrate his 5 cent head.
by meat on
Aug 28, 2008 11:29 AM EDT
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Candlesticks are always nice.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometime it rains.
by garden nome on
Aug 28, 2008 2:43 PM EDT
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You couldn't hit water
if you fell off a fucking boat…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
by iron duke75 on
Aug 28, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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See Below
"A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while."- Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
by CurtainCall on
Aug 28, 2008 5:57 PM EDT
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IMO Albert meant the game not the season
The inning could have been a downer for the Cards leaving the bases loaded. But Villaneuva pulled the stunt like and that changed the motivation direction back to the Cards. The replays during that pop up sequence were great. There was a camera on AP in the on deck area and he went from a downcast, bummer expression to one of I’m gonna stick this bat where the sun don’t shine. If Villaneuva just leaves the field, Albert and the boys might have been batting with a different mind set. Like Yogi said, “Baseball is ninety percent mental and the other half is physical.”
by ubeddie on
Aug 28, 2008 11:34 AM EDT
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cmon now
telling the press that they just woke up a sleeping giant just sounds cool. I doubt Pujols meant anything too serious by that. As exciting as anything in last night’s game was Perez closing out the game imo
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 28, 2008 12:46 PM EDT
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If the Cards are going to catch the Brewers
It will come between 9/11 and 9/18. The Cards are playing 6 on the road (at the Pirates and at the Reds) and one game at home against the Cubs. During that same period, the Brewers are playing four on the road against the Phillies and three at the Cubs.
The goal of the next two weeks/ 11 games is to keep the WC close (i.e. within 2 or 3 games) and then make a major push.
by JMedwick on Aug 28, 2008 9:33 AM EDT 0 recs
I agree
It would be nice to have the lead on 9/18, considering that we close out the season with 3 v. Cubs, 4 v. D-Backs, and 3 v. Reds and Milwaukee gets 3 with Cincy, 3 with the Bucs, and then closes out the season in Chicago, who will be setting up for a short series and probably throwing Marshall, Leiber, and Marquis in that series instead of Harden, Dempster, Lilly, or Z. Which doesn’t give the Cardinals much chance unless we have the lead and can hold it during that week.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Aug 28, 2008 9:41 AM EDT
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A couple things...
I remember that pay by Brunansky like it was yesterday, sitting in my cousin’s basement (Cubs fans who live in St. Louis, go figure), watching that game on WGN. You just got the feeling after that play and the total lack of enthusiasm for the following game that the season was probably over.
Was anyone impressed with Perez last night? Not his stuff, which wasn’t very good last night (ESPECIALLY the slider), but his mettle for getting two good fastball hitters out when they represented the tying run. Once he got Braun, I didn’t think Fielder had a chance. Where would this club be if we had that 9th inning guy all year long who could come in and strike out the other team’s best two hitters?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Aug 28, 2008 9:35 AM EDT 0 recs
In the wild card lead at worst....
maybe in 1st place in the division. Just factor in the blown games to the Brewers alone and we’d be ahead of them.
"Cross a lawyer with the Godfather, make you an offer you can't understand" - Don Henley
by TurdFerguson on
Aug 28, 2008 9:47 AM EDT
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I thought....
he only threw one bad slider. That one to get the first strikeout was absolutely filthy.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on
Aug 28, 2008 9:48 AM EDT
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He threw 3 bad ones
One to get Braun, who looked like he was sitting on a fastball away, and 2 to Fielder, but they were so far off of the plate that he didn’t have a chance to put a swing on them. It was pretty obvious that he wasn’t sure where it was going last night either. The fastball looked great though…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Aug 28, 2008 9:50 AM EDT
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I really don't think they were that bad.
He was trying to get Prince to chase a pitch and threw them a bit too far outside, but the break was very sharp. Neither one of those were hangers.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on
Aug 28, 2008 10:55 AM EDT
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The one to Braun was a hanger
Break or no break, it was belt high and broke over the middle of the plate. If Braun hadn’t been guessing fastball, he’d have murdered that pitch. Credit to Molina for calling it and Perez for having the gumption to throw the slider in a 3-2 count.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on
Aug 28, 2008 11:14 AM EDT
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You are right about it being a hanger.....
but it wasn’t over the middle of the plate. It was a bit up and in.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
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Aug 28, 2008 12:22 PM EDT
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strikeout pitch to Braun
… I thought it was a curve. His slider comes in at 88/89. The hanging pitch to Braun was 84. I’d never seen Perez throw a curve before. Perhaps because he and Braun were teammates and know each other well, Perez pulled his little used curve out of his @ss.
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Aug 28, 2008 1:00 PM EDT
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Gameday called it a slider
actually gameday had him throwing 2 sliders (96 and 95 mph) and called his ball to Prince as a curveball (92 mph).
I’m not sure what it was, but I thought it looked like a slider.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
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Aug 28, 2008 1:05 PM EDT
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Perez
On the post game interview said it was a slider that he threw poorly. He said it was slower than his other sliders but it was still a slider. Just a poor pitch he got away with due to the speed difference. This is what Perez said.
by ICbirdfan on
Aug 28, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
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Last night's win...
I hate to be the pessimist, because usually I’m the completely rose-goggled, blinded optimist, but the feeling that I had last night during the game was very vivid. It was the same exact feeling I had when Pujols hit that HR off of Lidge. It was sweet vindication for what was going to happen next…the Cardinals’ season ending earlier than I would have liked.
I think that the true TP of the season was when Carpenter (after coming back and pitching so well) went down in Chicago with another injury. That, in my mind, ended the season.
by stlfan on Aug 28, 2008 9:53 AM EDT 0 recs
yet it's a highlight either way
I agree with the sweet smell of false hopes. At the same time if the team makes the playoffs, this game is a great high point. If we complete a successful rebuilding year, this game is a great high point.
- Y.2.2
by Yadi2Second on
Aug 28, 2008 1:42 PM EDT
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Million runs scored
Wasn’t it Bob Watson?
I seem to remember a baseball card recognizing the feat.
by Poop on Aug 28, 2008 10:01 AM EDT 0 recs
you are correct.
bob waton DEFINITELY score the 1,000,000th run
by busch league on
Aug 28, 2008 10:47 AM EDT
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Just have to say...
that missing Haren and Webb is the best news I’ve heard all day…I’ll take my chances with Johnson and Davis.
My increasingly faulty memory tells me that the Cards haven’t done real well against bona fide aces this year…beating Hamels twice and the shellacking they put on Zambrano a couple weeks ago are the exceptions that come to mind. Anyone have any data to support or disprove that theory?
by tbell61 on Aug 28, 2008 10:03 AM EDT 0 recs
we beat Sheets twice right?
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 28, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
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It's annoying
that we get fired up and all . . . and then have an off day. Nothing is better than playing the next day after a game like that. This team is going to be so turbo-charged today, and it’s frustrating that all they’ll be able to do with that is have a practice.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Aug 28, 2008 10:12 AM EDT 0 recs
Consider this
Agree that day off stinks for us fans, but I got curious as to what the Cards do following a day off.
I came up with this…
Cards are 10-4 following a day off. 6 wins following a win. 2 losses following a win.
What does this mean? Nothing….. it’s just numbers. Go Cards.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on
Aug 28, 2008 10:35 AM EDT
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Might just be numbers
but I like ’em.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on
Aug 28, 2008 11:16 AM EDT
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Completely off topic..
But this slayed me enough that I shot hot coffee through my nose, courtesy of Junior at FJM:
As an absurd example, consider a guy who pitches nine scoreless innings 34 times and then allows 1,000 runs in his last game. Bad ERA, but pretty solid year. Although also consider that wins alone still might not capture the season this Mr. Awesome Except For One Disaster delivers — it’s possible that his teammates let him down and don’t ever score for him, leaving him with a season record of 0-1. Poor Mr. Awesome Except For One Disaster!
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Aug 28, 2008 10:18 AM EDT 0 recs
0 DORK-1 BLORK
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .264 .364 .384
Skip Schumaker: $Free .311 .372 .426
by joker24 on
Aug 28, 2008 10:37 AM EDT
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i just finished reading that article--god bless firejoemorgan
the one that just preceded it was more interesting to me though. i find it hilarious what a parody of itself the article being eviscerated really was. not just because it whined about “the good ole days when pitchers were men and competed and did whatever it took and arm injuries be damned!” but because it rolled out all the same old jocks vs. nerds cliches as usual. he actually accused people of rattling their “spectacles” around or some such nonsense. for the love of god, people. i thought using your brain was a good thing?
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Aug 28, 2008 10:40 AM EDT
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I know...
Who cites Fernando (or for that matter, Wood, Prior, and Schmidt) in an article about “manning up”? Seriously, the guy probably would have been a Hall of Fame contender had he been able to pitch at his pre-age 25 level for the next 10 years. He’s the poster-child for pitcher abuse and gets used to glorify the good old days when pitchers finished games.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Aug 28, 2008 11:31 AM EDT
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Emotional Rollercoaster
I was distraught after Game 1’s throttling and elated after last night’s wonderful come-from-behind win. Sadly, we made up no ground in the Wild Card. I just don’t know how we can make up games with our head-to-head confrontations with the Brewers over. What’s more, we have six remaining games versus the Cubbies. That makes things even more difficult. That said, never surrender…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 28, 2008 10:29 AM EDT 0 recs
If we could split with the Cubs and the Brewers lose all six to the Cubs
We’re 1/2 game back
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on
Aug 28, 2008 10:43 AM EDT
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I almost think that we have to go 4-2 versus CHI
Which is very possible with Wainwright coming into form.
I just don’t see MIL losing all six to Chicago with CC and Sheets on the hill for a handful of those games. They ought to win at least 2 of those games.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on
Aug 28, 2008 11:27 AM EDT
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That's what was said
right before they got swept at home the last time they played the Cubs, and both of those guys pitched in that series too.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Aug 28, 2008 11:32 AM EDT
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Yeah, it was
But, six games provides a lot more opportunities not to get swept. It is extremely difficult to win six-of-six against a team of the Brewers’ caliber. Rather than facing the dynamic duo atop the Milwaukee rotation once, the Cubs will likely have to go 4-0 versus the twin aces. At a minimum, probably 3-0. That’s a tall order, ever for the NL’s top club.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on
Aug 28, 2008 11:37 AM EDT
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