Game 132 Open Thread -- August 24, 2008
by chuckb on Aug 24, 2008 1:45 PM EDT
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I have to say that I'm very impressed w/ Looper's season so far this year. LB did a superb job the other day detailing his improvement and there's not much really that I can add. Sure, there might be a little luck involved w/ his high strand rate but I think it's fair to say that, at worst, Looper has become an average major league pitcher or so. Seems to me to be a good candidate for an arbitration offer and a bad candidate (at age 34 in October) for a long-term contract offer.
Jo Jo Reyes just isn't good...period. He walks nearly 4.5 per 9 innings, gives up too many homers and doesn't strike enough batters out. A lefty, he has been pretty tough on lefties in his brief career so I'd expect to see Skip on the pine today. He's been bad on the road and worse at home over parts of 2 seasons. He has started twice against the Cards in his career and given up just 3 ER in 11.1 IP. We're due. It's time for some "regression to the mean."
This, simply, is a game the Cards have to win. The Brewers lead us by 3.5 games -- 4 in the loss column -- and are trying to finish off their sweep of the Pirates today. They've got that Sabathia guy pitching today also. We need this one before we have our 3rd off day in 8 days tomorrow. Brilliant scheduling, Bud.
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Today's lineup
Izturis 6
Mather 8
Pujols 3
Ludwick 9
Glaus 5
Molina 2
Miles 4
Looper 1
Barton 7
Let’s see a double steal when Barton and Iz2 are on in the third inning.
don't you mean 2nd inning
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We don't steal
Mather will have to hit-and-run in that situation.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i like this line-up...
… but it’s a mystery why Iz2 and Barton aren’t flopped. not like it really matters that much probably, but Barton’s OBP is 30 points higher than Iz2’s.
OT: Not sure where to post this.
My mom has six tickets for next Wednesday’s game that she can’t use. It’s against the Brewers, and Wainwright is supposed to start. The tix are in section 359, row 10. I think she’d take less than face value. If anyone is interested, let me know.
What is the Major League record
for not starting games at the announced time? Cause, we have to be close. Seems like they need new clocks in Busch Stadium.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
Uhoh HC
Dan says the Cardinals are in talks with Braden Looper about a contract extension!!!
:eek:
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
i thought he said you don't know if they are or not
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He said they don't know if they've reached something or not
but there have been discussion about an extension, atleast that is what I heard.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't mind looper as a 4th or 5th guy...
with carpenter, wainwright, and wellemeyer in the fold…now you just need to find another middle of the rotation guy somewhere…
7 pitches awesome
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Dan and Al don't see Skip as the odd man out
they don’t think Colby can outperform Skip and they want Colby to spend another year in AAA.
I love these guys.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
Colby can hit rights and lefts
and walks more than Skip. He’s a virtual lock.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 24, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
let's say they say stupid stuff at times....
I loved Steve Stone because he critisized mgmt & players
nice AB mather
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big walk
made it a double, instead of a single shot by pujols
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 24, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
boo yah!
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 24, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
Pujols is dialed in
this is like April 2006.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
Two points stand between Chipper and the Mang now
Who will be leading after today’s game?!
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I'd like to go into the off-day
with Pujols the batting champ and the Cardinals sitting on a win.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I would take Pujols
winning the slugging competition instead.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 24, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully he wins
the making it to the post season award
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 24, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
barden started at 2b for the olympics
see ya AK
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No, no!
Kennedy has a contract. He can’t be removed from the team. Gack!
by Red in Chicago on Aug 24, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
we can trade him for a bag of peanuts
Is the bullpen the reason TLR drives drunk?
It isn't the Cardinal way to trade a player for
a bag of peanuts. We have to get a “quality” player back.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 24, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Batting Averages:
Albert Pujols= .357142
Larry Wayne Jones=.358695
If Jones goes 0-2 and Albert goes 2-2, then he takes the lead. Anything else, and Albert’s off by a fraction.
or two big Ks?
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 24, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
come on loop
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ridiculous
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
never has a picture been such a perfect description of my state of mind
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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 24, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
cant have BB and HBP in the same inning
and expect to get out w/o a run
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yeah this is bullshit
braves strand 2 but they pick up 3
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at least thats exciting
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 24, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
is this a rams game or do i have the right channel
Is the bullpen the reason TLR drives drunk?
lopez > iz2?
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 24, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose.
Not sure why he’s leading off today.
by mikeonthecards on Aug 24, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
woot
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This is going to be an exciting game
1. Get the lead
2. Give up the lead
3. Get the lead back
4. ……
5. Profit!
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i think of jojo...
the singer, i’d comment on her attractiveness but she isn’t legal until december…thanks wikipedia…
nice mange can take the lead
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He sort of reminds me of
Ludwick when he first came up.
by mikeonthecards on Aug 24, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
one of the LH will be traded
for a MI or RP
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Why does it have to be a lefty?
I keep hearing this…a lefty needs to be trade. (OK, I paraphrase into one comprehensible statement…it’s said many different ways). Anyway, with the way the lineup is shaping up for next year, I believe
C – Molina/backup 2 RHB (probably…I don’t see Anderson breaking with the big boys)
1B – Pujols RHB
2B – Miles? Switcheroo
SS – Lopez? Switcheroo
3B – Glaus RHB
MI – Kennedy LHB
CI/MI? – Stavinoha RHB or Duncan LHB or Phelps RHB or Ryan RHB or Rico Washington LHB (uhh…probably not.) or David Freese RHB or Allen Craig RHB or Brian Barden RHB or Jarrett Hoffpauir RHB (LOTS OF RHB)
OF – Ludwick RHB
OF – Ankiel LHB
OF – Rasmus LHB
OF – Mather RHB
OF – Skip LHB or John Jay LHB or Shane Robinson RHB
I see a ton of RHB on that team already.
barring a trade and assuming rasmus makes the team...
skip is definitely your 4th outfielder, right? i’d lean towards mather making the team over barton because of his pop…
Barton's got speed though
we could use him as a pinch runner, and he doesn’t have that much less pop either
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 24, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
has the lead
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8 for his last 10
absolutely on fire
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nice move albert
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how close was that?
Gameday has it over the wall
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on the track
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somebody drive Pujols in...
let’s get him to 100 R’s!
by longhornscardinals on Aug 24, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
Dan and Al are in rare form today
my head hurts.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
They spent an entire inning talking about how cool
they all were hanging out at the Boss concert last night. Then Al was trying to give us some convoluted argument about what the MVP was and what it wasn’t. His math on the batting race was strange too.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to admit, I kinda like the Braves guys
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 24, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
announcers I mean
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 24, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Boog Sciambi doing the game for them?
He’s the guy that hooked me up with free opening day tickets the last two years, and you can bet I’m asking him for tickets to next year’s opener too!
by mikeonthecards on Aug 24, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Whose the guy that looks like the villian
from the Incredibles?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 24, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
miles drive him in
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wait for two strikes
I don’t think Reyes can throw three in a row
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I think he wants to just skip third and go home
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he can do that as he trots around the bases on a miles homer
Is the bullpen the reason TLR drives drunk?
that was a really good play by the second base man
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brewers are about to score
Is the bullpen the reason TLR drives drunk?
They haven't already?
It was bases loaded with no outs and Braun up like 10 minutes ago.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
no bases are loaded with 1out and cc batting
Is the bullpen the reason TLR drives drunk?
Braun struck out and then Prince grounded into a double play that inning
this time, two outs bases loaded for rickie Weeks
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strike out
go pirates
Is the bullpen the reason TLR drives drunk?
come on c.c. catch the AK syndrome
Is the bullpen the reason TLR drives drunk?
Bucs got out of it
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comment on a topic from earlier
i think we trade skip this offseason…his value is higher right now than it will ever be…he is a starting OF/leadoff man for some teams in this league
But he's also
a starting OF/leadoff man for the Cards…
by mikeonthecards on Aug 24, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. But who leads off?
Maybe a new MI?
by mikeonthecards on Aug 24, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate the interviews they do on the radio
I can hear the game going on in the background, but Rooney isn’t even mentioning what’s happening.
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I hear you.
WHat was funny is when Billy Bob Thornton was in the booth a few weeks ago and they were trying to interview him…but Billy Bob was more interested in the game.
Yeah, I was listening to that one too
I liked Billy Bob before the interview, but after hearing him proclaim himself as the “biggest Cards fan in Arkansas,” I like him even more. And he wrote a song that makes fun of the Cubs.
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Miles> Lopez defensively
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true
but Lopez should be starting at SS more often.
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 24, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
99.99 for cards care
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pitchers best friend
besides the triple play of course
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See the triple play is like a really really cool guy you know
but never see. And if you saw him more often he would certainly be your best friend. But the double play keeps in touch much better and you see him a lot. Plus, he is also really cool
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Anybody else get a good laugh
to read the headlines that Drew will be going on the DL for the Red Sox? Death, Taxes, J.D. getting hurt.
I did doubly because he was on my fantasy team and I traded him
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OT: Bucs got out of the bases loaded jam
Hold them!
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Come on Bucs
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wears out breaking pitches
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Cardinaut is kicking some ass
I think he is a good piece to come off the bench
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steal second you rocket scientist
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Sweet
Time for the double steal
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frenchie has a hell of an arm
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Okay Joey Bombs
you WILL get a pitch to hit here
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now let go of your anger, only your hatred can destroy me
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Albert WILL NOT a pitch to hit
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I wanted Puj to get to 360 this AB
I guess I’ll have to be happy with a 3 dong jack by Studwick
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bucs:1 Brews:0
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YES
Bucs on the board
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yeah, luddy does not hit lefties very well
which is funny, because for a while this year Tony was only starting him against lefties. He started Ankiel and Duncan against the righties
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That ball was over his head
what was Ludwick thinking?
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damn, we have such outfield depth
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I think next year you go with an outfield of
Ankiel, Ludwick, and Rasmus. Have Skip and Mather on the bench. Trade skip or Mather
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how do you have skip and mather on the bench
and trade one of them? I say trade one of them two and have the other bench guy be Aerospace Engineer
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 24, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It is a good problem to have regardless
I will be sad to see any of those guys go though, Too bad you cannot turn Skip into a shortstop
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for one he is a lefty
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
I really like Mather though
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I think Mather will continue
to improve with time, and wouldn’t mind seeing him in a platoon role next year.
by mikeonthecards on Aug 24, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Barton and Duncan
on the block…
by mikeonthecards on Aug 24, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Barton can start in Memphis
if need be
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Looper settling in
good job after the @#$^ second
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damn, Maholm is really pitching his ass off
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in fact he is outpitching C.C
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that was a quick inning
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i pity da foo
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