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Whither Miles?

Bad loss yesterday afternoon. It’s difficult to underscore losses like that one. We’ve got Lohse on the mound against a floundering offense. We’re playing at home and frantically chasing the Brewers…It’s a game we needed to win. Now we’re trying to win just to have a winning series and a winning week. Can you believe that a loss today will put us at 2-3 for the week, at home, against the Pirates and Braves? Not what we needed.

Kyle Lohse has been a disappointment of late -- you don’t need me to tell you that – and it’s not helping the team in this playoff push. It may be, however, making it easier for the organization to make a decision about its to offer Lohse a long-term contract. Still, it’d be nice if he pitched well down the stretch and made that decision a little tougher. In his last 5 starts, Lohse has a 6.53 ERA. He’s given up 36 hits, 8 walks and 6 homers in 27.2 IP. While his walk rate has jumped during this stretch, the big jump of course is in his HR rate. 40% of the homers he’s given up this year have been yielded during this 5 start stretch.

So what’s the deal? Well, he really hasn’t changed his pitch selection that much. Over the last 30 days, he has been throwing a few more curveballs and changeups and slightly fewer fastballs and sliders, but it doesn’t seem like a material difference. Curveballs are up .8% and changeups are up 1.1% while fastballs are down 1.3% and sliders are down .6%. It’s a very small difference. Still, he’s been a lot more hittable over this stretch. The table below shows how his batted ball data over the last 30 days compares to the full season. Data is all courtesy of fangraphs. What a great site!

GB/FB LD% GB% FB% IFFB% HR/FB BABIP
full season 1.43 22.2 45.8 32.0 6.4 8.7 .297
last 30 days .86 27.2 33.7 39.1 13.9 16.7 .341

Big difference, no? Over the last month there’s been a big increase in the percentage of balls hit for line drives and hit in the air. His ground ball percentage has (pardon the pun) bottomed out. There may be a bit of bad luck involved, as his BABIP has jumped by more than 40 points and the percentage of fly balls that have left the park has nearly doubled. Still, it’s pretty clear that batters are hitting him harder – more line drives, more homers. To me it’s a pretty good indication that he’s having a hard time locating his pitches. More pitches left over the middle of the plate means more balls hit hard and more fly balls leaving the park. It also means he’s not getting the ball down (thus, the low GB rate) like he was earlier in the year. When you try to survive w/ a K rate as low as Lohse’s (5.0/9 IP for the year; 5.59 for his career), if you’re missing your location and not getting the ball down, you’re going to get hit hard.

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The other thing I wanted to discuss is the peculiar lineup pattern that has emerged ever since Felipe Lopez was acquired. His first game as a Cardinal was on August 6. Since he was acquired, he has played in 14 games, starting 11 of them. He’s started 4 times in LF, 4 times at 2B, 2 times at SS, and once at 3B. Now, I originally saw no harm in adding Lopez. It wasn’t as if Ryan was playing great baseball or that anyone really in our middle infield was. So why not? Then Tony started him 3 times in a row in LF. With our middle infield situation being so bad this year, to me it made no sense to sign Lopez if he wasn’t going to start at SS or 2B. Izturis was the starter at SS – he had played very good defense and been terrible offensively – and Miles had basically emerged as the everyday (or most everyday) 2B. He was having his best offensive season and was adequate defensively. Adam Kennedy, as we all know and have discussed ad nauseum, was positively craptastic.

So I was on board w/ signing Lopez and playing him at SS. What did the team have to lose? Izturis has been one of baseball’s worst offensive players this year (3.83 RC/27 outs; 2.2 VORP – 192nd in baseball!) and, though he’s been solid defensively, it was worth giving Lopez a shot at seeing if his offense could outweigh his poor defense at short.

Below is a table showing our middle infielders’ performances this year w/ the Cards. It shows each player’s batting runs above replacement and average, and fielding runs above replacement and average and only includes Lopez’s numbers as a Cardinal.

BRAR BRAA FRAR FRAA
Miles 10 0 16 1
Kennedy 3 -7 16 1
Izturis 2 -9 23 6
Lopez 4 3 2 0

As you can see, Miles has been almost exactly average at 2B this year – adding 1 run to the team above what an average 2B would have provided. Compare this to Kennedy who is 6 runs worse than an average 2B would have been and it’s easy to see that Miles should be playing over Kennedy. This should surprise no one.

Izturis has been the best defensive middle infielder and the worst offensive middle infielder. He has cost the team 3 runs compared to an average SS. Now, some will say that defense is more important from a middle infield position, or from a shortstop, than offense is. My response to that is that more runs in the Cardinals’ favor is better than more runs in their opponents’ favor and the bottom line is that Izturis’ offense has been so bad that it has actually worked to negate his contributions defensively. Playing him is costing the team runs over playing an average SS.

Now, it’s not at all clear that either Lopez or Miles would be an average SS so I’m not going to use this forum today to argue that Izturis should be sitting. Though Lopez has been an average defensive player since joining the Cardinals, we’re talking about 14 whole games. It’s really difficult to make an informed judgment about a player based on 14 games. For the season, Lopez is 6 runs below average defensively – and that’s playing most of the season at 2B. In 2007, he was 4 runs below average defensively and for 2006 and 2005 he was 14 runs below average and 20 runs below average defensively, respectively. All indications are that Lopez is a bad defensive shortstop. Still, he’s hit enough in his 14 games w/ the Cards to provide 3 runs more offense than the average middle infielder. If he can hit enough, he’ll be better than Izturis simply b/c his offense will provide more runs than his defense will cost the team. Izturis, despite his solid defense, has cost the team runs this season b/c his offense is just that bad.

What I find most peculiar, however, is how the playing time has been distributed since Lopez’s arrival. There’s one thing that’s clear from the table above and that’s that Aaron Miles has been, w/o question (and it’s not easy for me to say this), the Cards’ best middle infielder this year. Whether Izturis or Lopez should be playing shortstop is moot. Aaron Miles should be playing 2B. He’s the only 1 of the 4 who’s been even an average player this season. Surely Tony, long an Aaron Miles advocate agrees, right? It doesn’t seem so.

Since Lopez became a Cardinal on August 6, here is how the PA’s and starts have been distributed among the 4 middle infielders.

PA’s starts
Miles 30 6
Kennedy 31 7
Izturis 49 11
Lopez 51 11

Last, Tony? Last? Miles is last in the number of PA’s and last in the number of starts since Lopez arrived. Even fewer PA’s and starts than Adam friggin Kennedy! I can’t believe I’m here asking why Miles isn’t playing MORE but I am. I’ll admit it. I don’t get it.

Now, in Tony’s defense, Miles hasn’t hit at all over this period -- .267 OBP and .600 OPS. But Kennedy, who has hit a little, still hasn’t been much better. Kennedy has a .321 BA and a .644 OPS. Don’t tell me, "but Kennedy’s hot right now!" Really? He does have a .321 batting average but he has 1 walk over those 15 games. ONE! Still – that’s better than the number of extra base hits he has over that period – ZERO! In 31 PA’s, Adam Kennedy – who’s hot, remember – has 9 singles, 1 walk and 0 extra base hits. Now, Aaron Miles isn’t exactly a slugging machine but it’s telling that Kennedy’s hot, Miles is slumping, and Kennedy’s OPS over this short time period is still just 44 points higher than Miles’. Izturis and Lopez have been hitting. Izturis has 16 singles and 2 doubles – WOW! Be still my heart! Lopez has begun his Cardinal career w/ an .827 OPS. That’s why we took the chance, right? To see if the 28 year old Lopez would hit like he did a couple of years ago.

But I just don’t get it. Shouldn’t the 299 PA’s Miles had prior to Lopez’s arrival count more than the 30 he’s had since Lopez arrived? More importantly, shouldn’t Kennedy’s 305 PA’s count for something? Can we not, by now, figure out that, even when Kennedy is "hot" he still stinks? Now, is this the reason the Cards lost yesterday or to the Pirates the other day? Of course not. Playing Kennedy over Miles isn’t going to keep the Cards from making the playoffs, in all likelihood but w/ just over a month left in the season, it’s time to let the Cards best players play. The time for getting bench players PA’s so that they can be ready to pinch-hit has past. Miles is better at 2B than Izturis is at SS. Miles is certainly better than Kennedy at 2B. Sheesh, I can’t believe I’m saying this but it doesn’t make a lot of difference whether Izturis or Lopez plays SS right now but Aaron Miles should be at the keystone every day. He’s better, or has been this year, than each of the other 3.

Game thread around 1:00. It’s a game we need to win.

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it's not that i disagree...

… but honestly, does it really matter? we’re not gonna live or die because Miles starts instead of Lopez or Iz2. the margins are so slim in this discussion that it’s really hard to get riled up one way or the other.

by the bye… anybody got update playoff odds? what’s Intrade saying?

by kindred on Aug 24, 2008 4:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

playoff odds

per baseball prospectus give us a 13% chance. A win today and sweep of the Brewers needs to happen.

by ubeddie on Aug 24, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You aren't allowed to critique Felipe Lopez, don't you know that?

He’s had a Ted Williams-like 30 PA to start his career and is above reproach.

I’m not a fan of Miles, especially his defense but the way Tony buries guys I’ll never understand.

For example, Rick Ankiel is nursing a gut wound, playing out of position defensively in LF and since returning to the starting lineup (in the all-important 31 ABs!) is hitting .194 with .720 OPS (that’s since August 11th). In the same 31 AB stretch BEFORE his return, Joe Mather was hitting .250 with an .877 OPS. Not a world beater but Rick is CLEARLY not even 80% yet some how not only does he find his way into the lineup everyday but HE’S BATTING CLEANUP!

Back to Floppy, for much of the season, Tony appeared to hide his weak hitting MIF’ers by moving them to the #7 slot in the lineup. Not FeLo. He gets to bat ahead of our ‘among league leaders’ catcher, which gives Lopez more opportunities to leave guys stranded on base. And, with the pitcher batting 8th, gives Molina less chances to swing the bat.

Apparently, Tony was so disgusted by the lineup he had on August 5th that Felipe Lopez became the designated starter, banishing all the other blights on this team to the bench so that Lopez could fill-in anywhere Tony deemed fit.

If Adam Kennedy made the error that Felipe did today, we wouldn’t see him for 3 days. I bet Lopez plays 1B tomorrow!

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 4:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a huge fan of Miles*

Of course I’m a fan of the guy, as a bench player. Just don’t see the value in replacing him with a less talented bench player.

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 24, 2008 4:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not really a fan of him either way

I’ve harped on this elsewhere, but ‘backup 2B’ isn’t a position that exists on most MLB rosters, nor is it useful. But whatever. He’s having a solid year thanks to his fluky BA.

I understand that FR is easily accessible, but it’s so useless that it’s hardly worth talking about. Felipe Lopez is a terrible defensive infielder. According to Dewan, he’s at -14 this year at 2B. He hit once, but he’d have to hit a whole helluva lot just to be more valuable than Adam Kennedy (who’s been just as valuable as Miles as a middle infielder).

It’s a whole lot of suck, and no one really stands out at all.

by haltz on Aug 24, 2008 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I subscribe to Bill James Online for the defensive numbers, and I see Lopez is -17 at 2b now. Kennedy’s +18.

That’s a huge bleeping difference.

by greenback06 on Aug 24, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I think

I quoted the groundball column and not the total. Or maybe it hadn’t updated and he got -3 for those flops yesterday.

by haltz on Aug 24, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was wondering if his one day of defense was that bad. Lord knows it was that painful to watch.

I don’t want to think about 2009 yet, but with the emergence of Daryl Jones on one side and Skippy and Ankiel on the other, trading the most valuable OF chip for a good middle infielder makes some sense. They can’t settle for another year of this junk.

OTOH since the theme is that defense matters, Dewan hates Ankiel in CF (-13). It’s kinda silly that he’s in LF and Ludwick’s in RF BTW.

by greenback06 on Aug 24, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

back to the future

mo, tlr, et al keep playing guys and giving them opportunities based on the (unwarranted, i believe) hope that they will somehow morph into what they were, but are not now. it’s the 2008 iz2, not the 2004, etc. i’m with the crowd on looking at younger players to rise to the occasion, rather than hoping has beens will become not has beens. tony, good luck with that, unless you know mr peabody personally (pardon the rocky and bullwinkle reference).

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by sportsman on Aug 24, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hadley?

Hadley? Is that you?

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by bukowski on Aug 24, 2008 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Micro-managing or Moneyball managing

The harping on Tony’s managing style is always interesting to me. Tony plays to win over 162 and his decisions aren’t based on all this 40 at bat stat nonsense. Who knows why he is playing Rick. Maybe he wants Rick to play through an injury —toughen him up. Maybe he’s sending a message that Rick is his guy. Maybe Mather didn’t run out a ground ball. Who knows. Tony’s in the clubhouse everyday and has an uncanny way of knowing who to put out on the field.

How many people has Tony mis-evaluated over time? How many people have been in Tony’s doghouse and gone on to be successful elsewhere. Very few. By the way whatever happened to that J-Rod guy? How many times has he turned rejects into serviceable major leaguers. Often.

I’m happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. I laugh each time I see the “we must play Miles” posts after all the bashing he took over the winter.

by The Duke on Aug 24, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If his decisions aren't based on this

“40 at bat nonsense,” and are based on the 162 game schedule, why is he NOT playing Miles now? Miles isn’t that good but he is the best middle infielder we have right now. Yours is just a silly comparison. We need to upgrade at 2B and SS but can’t right now. Is that not obvious? I just don’t get all the Tony-worship — that he’s beyond reproach or criticism. If you’re right, and he doesn’t base his playing time decisions on “40 at bats,” then presumably — by your assumptions — he’s basing it on the entire season. Shouldn’t he then be playing every day? Has he not, w/ all his flaws, been better than Izturis and Lopez and Kennedy over the 120 or so games we’ve played? His decisions w/ regard to Miles and the other middle infielders flies in the face of your assertion.

by chuckb on Aug 24, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineup decisions

may also be based upon how the player looks in his at-bats (and perhaps batting practice). All ballplayers go through stretches where they’re “not seein’ the ball good”; and players who are “seein’ the ball good/taking good at-bats” don’t always get the results you want. Admittedly, this is not quantifiable; while I agree that Miles has been the Cards’ best offensive option at 2B over the course of the season (he has more ABs than Kennedy, for example), he may not be “swingin’ the bat well” by the eyeball test… so he sits.

While any statistical analysis shows us what Player A, B, or C has done over a stated period of time, prediction of future performance improves with larger sample sizes. But the game is played in small sample sizes… at-bat by at-bat!

TLR uses some statistical analysis in his lineup selections; but he also makes some selections by “feel”, a.k.a. the “eyeball test”. Admittedly, I dunno why Tony makes the decisions he does, and I’ll “second-guess” them as well… that’s part of being a fan! Sometimes the manager can make the “right” move… and it blows up in his face! C’est baseball!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Aug 24, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My only problem w/

the “eyeball test”, and it’s not so much a problem w/ the test as it is a problem w/ the use or misuse of it is this: we all do agree Miles has been better than the others this year. If he’s not seeing the ball well now or whatever, how will sitting, and therefore NOT seeing the ball at all, help him get better? I can understand him being tired and needing a day off or whatever. That’s not what I’m talking about. Does Kennedy add so much that as soon as Miles has a couple 0-4 days he needs to sit? Pujols, Glaus, Ludwick and the others play through stretches when they’re not seeing the ball well. I’ll be the first to argue that Miles is no Pujols, Glaus or Ludwick, but he is the best of our middle infielders (God help us!) and playing Kennedy in his stead isn’t going to make the team any better.

by chuckb on Aug 24, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

which all the more mystifies floppy’s playing time, in left no less. i’ll admit bias here because i am a mather fan, but come on.

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by sportsman on Aug 24, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TLR's not beyond criticism

I just think he should be given the benefit of the doubt. Clearly they are playing Lopez to see what they have. He’s got the potential to be better than all the other MIF, so they are taking him for test drive to see what they have. Miles may have marginally better stats, but they want to find out if they have someone who could be a quantum leap better. I think it is smart. Sometimes you get a Wellemeyer and sometimes you get a Sosa. Let’s hope for the former.

by The Duke on Aug 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pavano

I think we should sign Pavano in the off season and add to the growing Duncan mystique.

Yesterday was poor. But – sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and sometimes it rains. 2 out of 3 happened yesterday.

We’ll get them today.

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by bukowski on Aug 24, 2008 9:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've said it all year!`

why the hell do we insist on carrying 4 middle infielders on the team!!!

Such a waste of a bench player. It creates this problem…“pinch hitting for the pitcher is Aaron Miles” That really strikes fear into the heart of the opposing pitcher. How about we try….“pinch hitting for the pitcher Josh Phelps”. Ok, maybe not a fear striker, but i sure like the potential of a Phelps at bat over a backup sucktastic middle infielder.

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Aug 24, 2008 9:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bullpen issues

Isn’t a more pressing issue the failure to keep the other team off the scoreboard in the 8th inning? Three of K-Mac last four outings have been less than successful. Has K-Mac hit the wall with 67 innings so far this season?

by ubeddie on Aug 24, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another reason not to

use him in the rotation next year.

by stlfan on Aug 24, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to know the opinion

of anyone at the game yesterday regarding Lopez’ near misses in the field that allowed four of the first five runs to score. Would Miles or Kennedy have made those plays or were the balls just well placed?

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Aug 24, 2008 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

watching the highlights on ESPN...

neither were very easy plays. A very good defender makes them, a simply good defender probably doesn’t.

by longhornscardinals on Aug 24, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well...

I think a major league second baseman makes at least one of those plays—probably both. McClellan wasn’t great yesterday but if the Lopez makes a play an average 2B makes, he gets out of the inning with no runs.

by nmstar on Aug 24, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough -

i should have added that caveat that i watched the highlights at 2:30am after a lot of drinking, and i wasn’t paying THAT close of attention.

by longhornscardinals on Aug 24, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TV view a poor indicator

but just to cast MY vote… when they left the bat I was sure that two of the ground balls were playable. Whether Miles or Kennedy would have converted either one is above my pay grade, but I repeat when both balls were hit I either yelled “two” or “yes,” … meaning my eye told me that was a double-play or an out, as the case may be.
I also thought Lopez was playing too shallow (a’la’ when the announcer says “the infield is playing half way.”)
In general, and I’m sad to say this… I have a negative feeling about Lopez, having watched him a lot during his Cincinnati days. The ‘bad attitude’ or ‘not living up to his potential’ tags often subtly, and sometimes openly, expressed by announcers, fans, etc.
But I was not a Belliard fan either (different set of reasons) or some of the other clowns we have tried at 2b. The last time we had a second baseman I felt good about was Grudz, and before that Vina.

by the Tewk on Aug 24, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point the only way we can get the Wild Card

in my opinion is for the team to either have a 8-9 game winning streak (soon) and they would probably need to have a couple of these actually or to have a big final month of the season where they go like 18-7. But to be frank..I don’t think this team can do this. They haven’t put together a long winning streak (more than 5 games) all season and they just are not dominate enough at home to put something like this together. They have been playing around .500 ball for the past couple of months and haven’t put together a big winning month since early in the season. They are really going to have to finish really strong like a 18-7 month to pull this thing off.

Of course a big losing streak by the Brewers would work too but with their starting pitching (CC & Sheets) I don’t see that happening.

The key series for the Cards is going to be the two Diamondback series in my opinion. We have 7 games against them in September (3 at Arizona and 4 at Busch). They are a different beast now with Adam Dunn….they are scoring a lot more runs than they did before they traded for him. And of course they have dominate pitchers in Webb, Haren & Johnson. If we can go like 5-2 against the Snakes and then maybe win 4 of the 6 games vs. the Cubs I think we will still have a pretty good chance. But at this point seeing the way we are playing it’s not looking too good to be able to pull something like this off. I hope they can turn things around in a hurry though and it HAS to start by sweeping the Brewers for those 2 games this week. That is a MUST.

by KYCards on Aug 24, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We'll know by next Sunday

Counting today’s game, I believe the Cards need to win 5 of the next 6 in order to be positioned for a chance at the Wild Card. Included in that record is taking both games against Milwaukee. The offense has to score five runs both games and please no bullpen problems. The Brewers have CC going twice in the other four games against Pittsburgh in the next week. By winning 5 of 6 including two from the Brewers, we would probably still be two back in the loss column heading into September.

Let’s hope we finish this late season trip to Arizona in better shape than last year.

by ubeddie on Aug 24, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To go in more detail of the games we have left (not counting today's game)

here is what I think we will have to do (or come real close to doing) to get to play in October.

Brewers sweep the 2 games
at Astros win 2 of 3
At Diamondbacks win 2 of 3
Marlins win 2 of 3
Cubs win 2 of 3
at Pirates sweep all 3
at Reds win 2 of 3
at Cubs win 2 of 3
Diamondbacks win 3 of 4
Reds win 2 of 3

This would be going 22-8 to end the season and basically winning the rest of the series we have this season. This will be a tall order. Of course if we can get some help and the Brewers hit a skid we could do a little worse(finish with a 20-10 record maybe)…but going by the way the Brewers have been playing and with their September schedule this is pretty close to how the Cards will need to finish off the season in my opinion. Any combination of the Cards loosing more than 2 of these remaining series or getting swept in any of thes series would pretty much be the end of any playoff hopes.

by KYCards on Aug 24, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would think that in hindsight

or whatever, when the season is long over and we’re left to reflect on the seaon…..anywhere between 92 to 94 wins would have to be considered a major accomplishment for this team.

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by Tackle Box on Aug 24, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

But the bad thing is we could finish with a better record than both the NL West & NL East division winners and not get into the playoffs. But the NL Central was so weak for so many years that this was bound to happen at some point. We got lucky in 2006 because the NL Central was so weak and we squeaked into the playoffs. So if we don’t make it this year despite winning 90 games or more….I guess that’s our “payback” from the ‘Baseball Gods". It’s actually a little funny and so true that it’s hard to get to mad about it.

by KYCards on Aug 24, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When we made our last 58 game predictions

I said the same KYCards, we’d finish w/the 3rd best NL record and NOT make the playoffs.

I still think the NL West winner will finish below .500

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by gocards62 on Aug 24, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll say this though

if we fall apart the next couple of weeks and we loose any hope of a playoff spot I will actually start rooting for the Brewers. Yeah I know they are a cocky team and their manager is dumber than a box of rocks….but I would love to see them overtake the Cubs and make the Cubs become the wild card team and have to start the playoffs at NY or at Philly and get beat in the first round. Plus my wife is from Wisconsin and seeing that their origanization hasn’t been to the playoffs since 82 I will have to root for them and will have fun doing so. Of course until we are out of it…I hope the Brewers choke.

by KYCards on Aug 24, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arizona's schedule

of the D-Backs last 33 games, there are only 13 against teams with winning home/road records: at Colorado (3) at LA (3), at STL (4) and hosting us (3). With that schedule, I don’t see them playing 7 games under .500 for the rest of the season.

by ubeddie on Aug 24, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree and I think we are the only team standing in their way of winning

the West. The Dodgers can’t win on the road and that will be their un-doing. It’s the Snakes division to win. Those two series for the Cards and Snakes wil be important for both teams playoff chances. So they won’t be easy games for us by a long shot. They will probably be our toughest foes in Sept….other than the Cubs.

by KYCards on Aug 24, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would be nice

if AZ clinches the day before the late Sept series. Nothing like playing against a team with a monster hangover.

by ubeddie on Aug 24, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

problem is

we keep focusing on winning series, and that isn’t going to do it. we can’t sweep the braves in atlanta or at home, lose the season series to the pirates, etc. it’s not just a long winning streak, we need to simply up our winning percentage overall (brewers are 21 over) and sweep some of these teams or it’s over. after today watching the brewers close out the pirates dodging that 0 outs/bases loaded situation just amplifies that they are playing winning ball and we are plugging along.

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by sportsman on Aug 24, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for anyone who missed it...

Rasmus started his rehab last night in the GCL…

0-1, 2BB, started in Center

by longhornscardinals on Aug 24, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LHP today

We see an outfield of Barton, Mather and Ludwick. Miles should get a start at 2nd with Iz2 at short. Off day tomorrow so no need to rest AP or Glaus. No matter what we need to give Looper some runs this time.

Line up Guess
Barton 7
Mather 8
Pujols 3
Ludwick 9
Glaus 5
Molina 2
Miles 4
Looper 1
Izturis 6

by ubeddie on Aug 24, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Missed it by that much

Swap Izturis and Barton in the lineup and that’s today’s offensive juggernaut.

by ubeddie on Aug 24, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Lopez should play a Ronnie Belliard style 2nd base

and play in the outfield grass to make up for his complete lack of range.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 24, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh my lord

i have beeen pushing for miles to become the starter for the last couple of weeks.
i don not understand how a guy hitting over .300 doesn’t play in front of lopez or iztures

by cardsrule15 on Aug 24, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anderson

I’ve been saying it, and I will keep saying it. Bryan Anderson is our best option at 2B next year. Our middle infield needs some fresh blood.

by Yadi on Aug 24, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's no way Anderson can play the position

without having played it at any point prior in his career. You are talking about at least a year’s transition time in the minors. He’s more valuable as a trading trip than messing with him at this point.

by azruavatar on Aug 24, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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