Game 130 Open Thread: Braves @ Cardinals 7:15 CDT
Atlanta Braves at St. Louis Cardinals, Aug 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
Wainwright Morton
6-3, 3.14 3-7, 5.95
The Cardinals need to beat up on the Richmond Atlanta Braves tonight, plain and simple. They took 3 out of 4 last time. No losses allowed this go around.
The story tonight is undoubtedly Adam Wainwright. Let's run down a few items. Adam Wainwright needs to be in the rotation especially with Chris Carpenter doubtful again. The question of whether he'll stay in the rotation may be different depending on who you ask on the Cardinals' payroll. Tonight's start may go a long way towards answering that question.
Wainwright is, IIRC, on a pitch count. Even if he wasn't watch for a short leash coming off the injury and 2 gazillion offdays during the next stretch. The most important thing to see will be whether or not he's got his breaking pitches working namely the curveball. I'm not sure how much of an impact the finger injury would have on his velocity (when I was in Memphis his velocity looked fine) but being able to apply the proper pressure to snap off that 12-6 kneebuckler is going to be critical. If he doesn't have the ability to throw that pitch as often or effectively, it's possible that a trip to the pen would be better allowing him to rely more on his fastball and slider.
I'll predict a 5 inning start for the night. If he can hold them to 2 runs, that would be a pretty significant success. The Cards need to win both tonight and in the future -- Adam Wainwright is a huge part of that. Hold your breath.
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7 IP, 80 pitches
Let’s show em what an Ace can do.
Is Azruavatar suggesting that the bullpen might be where Adam belongs? Egads….
If he doesn’t have the ability to throw that pitch as often or effectively, it’s possible that a trip to the pen would be better allowing him to rely more on his fastball and slider
note the "if" in that sentence
if Adam really isn’t back from the injury, and time in the bullpen is better for his rehabbing, then I think everyone would rather he stay in the bullpen until he is healthy again.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
go wainer!
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 22, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
Rule 5
I was intrigued by the Rule 5 discussion in yesterday’s thread, so I checked out who would be eligible this year. I only included players drafted by the Cardinals. I’m not sure if a player aquired from another team like David Freese would be eligible or not.
So here are some who I believe are available this year…
POS / Player / Year Drafted / DOB / Age when drafted
SS Tyler Greene, 05, 8.17.83, 21yo
RHP Mark McCormick, 05, 10.15.83, 21yo
LHP Zack Zuercher, 05, 4.10.84, 21yo
2B Jarrett Hoffpauir, 04, 6.18.83, 20yo*
RHP Matt Scherer, 04, 1.20.83, 21yo
RHP Mike Sillman, 04, 12.3.81, 22yo
C Brandon Yarbrough, 03, 11.9.84, 18yo
C Matt Pagnozzi, 03, 11.10.82, 20yo
RHP Jason Motte, 03, 6.22.82, 20yo*
OF Cody Haerther, 02, 7.14.83, 18yo
3B Travis Hanson, 02, 1.24.81, 21yo
*Currently on 40-man roster, will be eligible if removed from 40-man roster
eligible in 2009
OF Colby Rasmus, 05, 8.11.86, 18yo
RHP Tyler Herron, 05, 8.5.86, 18yo
RHP Josh Wilson, 05, 9.6.86, 18yo
OF Daryl Jones, 05, 6.25.87, 17yo
C Bryan Anderson, 05, 12.16.86, 18yo
RHP Adam Ottavino, 06, 11.22.85, 20yo
OF Jon Jay, 06, 3.15.85, 21yo
1B Mark Hamilton, 06, 7.29.84, 21yo
OF Shane Robinson, 06, 10.30.84, 21yo
OF Luke Gorsett, 06, 5.28.85, 21yo
3B Allen Craig, 06, 7.18.84, 21yo
RHP P.J. Walters, 06, 3.12.85, 21yo
OF Amary Cazana Marti, 06, 9.2.78, 27yo
There are others I left out, simply because I highly doubt any team will take a second glance at them.
The only players I’m really worried about protecting this year are Motte and Hoffpauir, who are already on the 40 man, and perhaps Greene.
Marti is only 29?
I thought I’d seen something suggesting he was more like 32. Or do his super powers include the ability to change the past?
by StanTheManFan on Aug 22, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He is whatever age he says he is.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
i thought the same thing.
but thats what his birthdate was listed as on scouts.com
i think they have the month and day right, but the year should be 1778
the year should be 0
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
He doesn't need a passport.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Neither do Chinese gymnasts
in China… ;-)
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by iron duke75 on Aug 22, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The only guys I'd protect on that '08 list are Motte and McCormick
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
i'd add greene
simply because he’s a shortstop with pop and can has at least a decent to above average glove
I'd be really surprised if another team would want to draft him and
and keep him on their 25 man roster the entire season.
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greg maddux
looks OLD on the mlb.com homepage…
Go Pirates
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Go Wagonmaker
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Morning, team. How has Waino looked in rehab?
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Adam's already got the playoff beard working
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i have to start mine in june
to get ready for october
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i almost envy you
i hate shaving every day. Bigfoot ain’t got nothing on me
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That's why I don't
just trim with a number 2 every 3 or 4 days, clean up the edges and you’re golden.
Of course even if I was shaving every day, I wouldn’t have to shave every day. Red hair blends in well with the complexion, I could shave twice week and no one would notice.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Where'd that pitch miss?
Going to be hard for ADAM to “pitch like Glavine” if he can’t get that corner.
thats what I was saying
it did not
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um, control of Uncle Charlie is off so far
guess that should be expected
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wtf ump
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zone is tight tonight
Plus he is a little wild
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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm trying to not be concerned with his wildness
his body language is saying he’s not happy either. what that means, i dont know.
i’m about as optimistic as recounter though
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and the walk
he got squeezed
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not even squeezed
it was a strike and the ump just flat out did not call it
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Morton's getting that outside corner
v. Skip
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The second pitch to Yunel
was the one that irritated me
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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitt up early
Maddux getting hammered
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
er, separate games of course.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i wonder why that game isn't on DTV EI?
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time for a few runs, boys
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Can't get Gameday today. Anyone else having this problem?
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I had to reload it once
Been like that a few times lately.
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I dont know what happened,
I hit reply to akaitori but it didnt go up there
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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Good AB Luddy
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
keep takin' pitches, APu
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bring the pain Albert
and by pain i mean hit it to Clark St
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good hit Albert, duck & chuck morton
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Okay, Rick
TAKE A STRIKE
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let's see what Lopez can do
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Okay, Floppy
time to put us ahead
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i absolutely love that nic name
it brings a smile to my face every time i see it
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too bad he looked like AK there
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any one else think Tony should flip Rick & Lud in the order on a regular basis?
from 2nd & 4th, you know, so neither one goes into a slump? almost any one who hits in front of Albert on any given night is going to get meat balls to hit. they both seam to love hitting there. but imho, neither one is ready to carry the load of hitting clean up every night.
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I prefer Lud as cleanup
Rick just isn’t disciplined enough
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i agree
and i also think he’s still hurt. otherwise, why is he not in center?
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showcasing skip?
preparing ank for next year?
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Good AB top to bottom
we’ll make them pay soon.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Has Miles been given the Reyes corner of the dog house?
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The umpire has already made Morton mad
this guys strikezone is bad
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morton should be on his knees
thanking him for that strike call to lopez. That PA goes totally different if it starts out 2-0 instead of 1-1, imho, and after 5 straight balls the ump shouldn’t expand his zone to give the kid a break…
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10 pitch inning
very good
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what an awesome shot of all the FSN on camera guys watching the game & eating
that’s hilarious
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living the dream...
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should have been strike 3...
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions
gets the k anyways
but still. sigh
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice inning. How many pitches does Waino have tonight?
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oh,
his limit is 80 pitches, if that’s what you were asking… sorry
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i repeat, nice K Adam!
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27 pitches through 2
pretty good
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"this day in history"
and they do Dave McKay hitting an HR for the twins, instead of Glenn Brummer stealing home for the cardinals?
Interesting choice.
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The guy with theGlenn Brummer stole home name must be bummed
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LET HIM HIT TONY!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
see what happens when you listen to me Tony?
granted it was a 2-2 count, but after my recent string of bad luck, i’ll take any thing i can get
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unless he hits RH, which he should always do
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thought it was a BITP off the bat
that would have been Bad.
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here come the bad boys
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that was weird, nice job Skippy
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walk him to face Albert with the bases jacked
yeah, that’s sounds about right
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I'm betting that Morton...
needs to change his pants about now
nowhere to put Albert!!!
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Alright Albert
open this fucker up. let’s have a few “off days” while playing for once.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
this umpire is crazy
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He coult IBB and take the 1 run penalty instead of a 4 run penalty
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only a 2 run penalty
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
in play runs, what happened?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Albert you RBI double jacking SOB!
I LUV U
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very nice
keep it going Rick
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
wait for your pitch, Roy
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very nice oppo
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wow
walking ank to get to glaus?!?!?!? make them pay santa
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i'm shocked
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Santa loves to have the sacks loaded
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Morton looked as if he was saying Phew
after giving the double. lol
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
or BB
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
don't believe Morton will be in the game
much longer
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I love being on this side of a lopsided inning
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
very reminiscent of TLR in boston
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well thats fantastic
stick a fork in Morton, he’s done
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I wish we could face this pitcher every night!
the poor bastard’s terrible.
I would say getting into the braves bullpen this early is a job well done
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Felipe Lopez with teh bass loaded two innings in a row....
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
there's some good news in that somewhere
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
He needs to atone
Six LOB in two at bats would not be good.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 22, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
When's the last time you remember a pitcher with control issues ordered to toss an IBB to load the bases?
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Is that the fastest we've chased out a starter?
1.1 IP is pretty speedy
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Didnt we chase a Cub in the first inning in may
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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
that game was crazy
he loads the bases, walks a run in, they pull him, and we leave the bases loaded.
later on, soriano is bumbling everything hit to him, only to redeem himself by homering off izzy to tie the game in the ninth.
and, of course, the skip walkoff
or not
damn it
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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
In the back of my mind...
i thought we were the ones that could have issues and need a 2nd bullpen reprieve. Luckily Adam looks fine.
that being said, how many runs do we get before we start approaching this as a side session like scenario for adam or do we push a little more given the fact we have a buffer?
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
well thats just bad luck Floppy is what that is
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what was Glaus doing
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I"m guessing he read that as a groundball
and was hightailing it to 2b to avoid the dp
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
It's almost more fun when it's not pretty
(if it still works)
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
go cards!
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
why are the Braves swinging early?
don’t they want WW to HAVE to pitch
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nice DP & a 5 pitch inning to boot. awesome Adam
hello? is this thing on? where’d everybody go?
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Firefox doesn't work for SB nation. If you are using it, I strongly recommend that you switch
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
works fine here
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
really? It seems to be working okay for me
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Perhaps 'doesn't work' is an overstatement
but it is groggy and slow and horrible compared to how the site renders and loads and performs in Safari
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
never tried Safari
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
Safari = Apple Computer
and no, I don’t work for them, it was just the other browser installed on my system
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
firefox has generally always had issues on the mac
which is why Camino is generally a more popular choice.
that being said, while on Mac – Safari generally kicks everything’s ass. They’ve really amped the speed on that toolkit (webkit.org)
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, that's fair
so PC users might not have the same Firefox issues I do.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yeah
totally different beasts under the covers
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, works great for me
on linux and windows both. I have to use IE at work and it is dreadfully bad. Firefox is the way to go on a real computer, imho.
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ouch, i don’t know what I’d do with IE.
linux? nice.
Ubuntu/FreeBSD user here, just play though. Have to use Windows for work development.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
that was awesome
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we're here but
in shock
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This feel's like it's going to be a high-scoring game
Perhaps we can top this one
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I just noticed that was exactly one year ago tonight!
The stars align!
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could be if Floppy
starts taking advantage of his opportunities
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OK Adam, it's just you & me big boy
nice hit dude, try not to suck so much IZ2
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I had almost forgotten my mad mancruch on A.D.A.M.
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Apparently WW did ot lose his batting stroke while on the DL :-)
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Thats funny
I was in the process of typing the same thing.
by tangledbrett on Aug 22, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Add looper head of AK and it's even sadder
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
that is not true
Ak is much better than Looper
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i hate you IZ2 with the heat of a 1000 suns
all by myseellfff, don’t wanna beee, alllll byyy myy seelllfff anymore!
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already had one of those
vs the braves. Started in a very similar manner…
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
hey Tony! their steeling your signs! stop putting on the hit and run for pete's sake!
yep, i’m officially crazy. now all the world knows i sit in my basement & talk to myself.
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so they're turning his signs into steel?
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 22, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
in my defense, i thought i was all by myself, so i didn't hit the preview button because
i thought no one was here to read it. scroll up & check out the singing impression i did of Scrubs earlier.
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Nope, Looper avg 11 pts higher, slg 10 pts higherand op% 22 pts higher
than AK
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Their pitcher looks stoned

“Where’s Duncan? I need another nickel bag!”
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
“Forget Duncan, Ludwick… Duuuude”
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I have taken a few quick tours lately of other SB Nation game threads
and the CARDINALS always have the most posts. Why is that? The best fans?
i swear i was all alone for the last 20+ minutes
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looks like i need to look into getting Safari
Firefox totally crapped out on me
so uh, you all want me to leave uh?
/hangs head & walks into the darkness, all by myself
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you can stay
as long as you quit singing…damn songs are in my head now
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deal
i was doing my best Dr Reed & Dr Glock impression from Scrubs.
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by all means
Continue then…can’t get enough of the Scrubs references.
And thanks for the reminder to change my Scrubs settings on the DVR to ABC
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established blog
would be the #1 reason.
best fans? generally.
but can be just as harsh as the best of them. depends on the team on the field
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of other teams have much larger non-SB Nation blogs
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
isn't it funny how great bats...
win gold gloves? yet, here’s albert, the best hitting AND fielding 1st baseman in the league, and derrek lee will win by default…
think the argument is: "he can jump higher.
and can dig ‘em. and he’s taller so he has more range"
The only statistic worth using is the player’s height, you know.
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Crap still can
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Crap still can't get gameday - and broadcast devoted to some self promotion by chatty cathy
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go seven my boy, go seven
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that was freaking crazy, the page suddenly stopped showing everyone's comments
i seriously thought i was talking to myself for the last 20+ minutes
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next time hit f5
usually works here.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i was, it didn't start working again till i went to the main page
i didn’t think anything was wrong because i have other tabs & windows open & they are working fine. i seriously thought every one just up & left all of a sudden. hence my weird comments.
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Surely, there is a world where the world started two years later than it did in this one
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
198.98 to Cards Care
very nice
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
lineup has done a great job of working the count tonight
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Just need to work on doing that
Against top tier pitching.
by tangledbrett on Aug 22, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It's way harder to do against top tier pitching
when they throw strikes anyway
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Wah wah waaah

“woops. shouldn’t have left that one up.”
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That will work
but this is quicker
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Yes!
Nice offensive support for Waino’s return.
don't look behind you, Chipper
AP is gaining fast
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Albert you RBI single hitting SOB!
bum elbow & all, I STILL LUV U
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braves announcers seem to be in shock that albert's gone the other way twice...
he doesn’t go that way as much as he used to, but it’s not like he’s some sort of dead pull guy…
freakin' Pirates
I’m beginning to hate that team.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 22, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
we should be able to loan players
for 15 day stints.
while playing the braves I’d shift a couple of players to help them out
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
um, albert vs chipper
albert 3, chip 1
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
Ank has been smoking the ball
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Pujols heeding the stop sign!
Something’s come over him.
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Mr Doubles is back baby!
time to get of the schnide Floppy!
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About 2 % lower than leading Pirates 10 - 2 in the 7th - or some such
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It always comes back to T.E.S.S.
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C'mon Floppy
third time’s a charm
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Pirates need to come back and win
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Floppy you so sloppy tonight
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
keep your head up Lopez
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
The best part about this game is that there will be no temptation to stretch Wainwright out too long
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
he's also about to blow this sucker to kingdome come as well
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When you're averaging 2 LOB per inning all by yourself, that's no good
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 22, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
walking Yadier intentionally
make em pay waino
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they do know that Wainwright is 2/2 tonight, ya?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yes
“Let sleeping does lie,” as they say.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 22, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
Save grit for the times when WE are getting embarrassed.
by tangledbrett on Aug 22, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Only in a parallel word
that is the same as this one, only two years behind. Isn’t that what we determined?
by tangledbrett on Aug 22, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that reminds me of when that 70's show had the moving wall paper
behind the parents when one of the younger characters was on pot
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yes that did happen
the best one was the last season when kitty got high & red & steven’s heads got big & small
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"You don't have bad luck Eric."
“The reason bad things happen to you is because you’re a dumbass.”
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
That last one was Beltran-esque.
Not a 12-6, but still just filthy.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 22, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the change seems better too
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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
pitt within one
go pirates go
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Oh, well.
A shutout opportunity would have gone to his head. I keep telling myself that.
it could easily have tempted Tony to leave him in there
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
that's almost how you should be pitchign with a six run lead
just put it out there and make them make contact
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
obviously, you shouldn't leave the ball up over the center of the plate like that
but there’s no reason to try to be all that fine
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I wasn't complaining.
It’s the reason he is sitting under 60 pitches. Some times you miss. And at this level your mistakes end up like that one more often than not.
way to jinx him Dan & Al
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Watching Wainwright
look like his old self, and seeing Carpenter do the same, it makes me sick they’ve been out of action for so long. Well……hopefully they will both be 100 percent next year. It’s a nice thought.
why not try for two
I think he could try to get to 80 pitches tonight…he was at 64 last time out
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
im taking it inning by inning
But if he gets out of the 6th north of 70 pitches I wouldn’t send him back out for the 7th.
i guess that nakes sense
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*makes*
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Skip having a great August
hitting .366 w OPS of .865
now another hit
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I could get excited about a
Skip/Mather platoon next year
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Wasting him
He has played in minors long enough, imo. He should be dealt in some package than
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 22, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
it will be verrrrry interesting...
to see how the outfield situation shakes out over the winter and maybe into spring training…
single, single, single,
SLAM-A-LAMA-JACKDONGERY
you can do it Albert!
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DeSalvo seems to not want to pitch to A Pu
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Reminds me of Preacher Roe
when asked how he’d pitch to Musial…
“I’d throw him four wide ones and then try to pick him off first.”
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
why would you when you have a "base open"
…and there are no outs….
That’s just smart pitching…choose your battles…
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
because rick ankiel is a beast
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
ATL broadcasters
are worried Albert is going to catch Chipper tonight.
He’s gained four points on him already, and Chipper had a hit even.
Radio guys just sort of notice that Luddy might be in the running for MVP
Insightful . ..
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
do you mean Shannon and Rooney
you wouldn’t make fun of them would you?
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair,
Mike had to give up drinking.
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When, why? Kind of missed the slurve dlivery
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i'm not sure when
but it’s kidney or liver related if i remember correctly
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maybe
he’s been hanging out with chris duncan lately… because he often sounds like he’s on something
is that verifiably true?
b/c I swear, last Saturday night, he couldn’t stop laughing about something – and I swear he was tanked!
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if it is verifiably true
but Mike had to quit baseball because of nephritis, and drinking is not recommended with nephritis, so maybe he was finally talked into it/quit on his own.
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 22, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Last I heard
he quit drinking during games a few years ago, but still will have a nip or two postgame. I believe he even bought a loft downtown in case he has one too many and can’t make the drive back to belleville.
But you didn’t hear that from me.
hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit
guys I know take cabs
guys involved with professional baseball buy downtown lofts, “just in case”.
I love it.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
Wonder what the recrd is for most innings with the bases loaded
We’ve doen it 4 of 5 inings so far
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Cmon Rick, time to get one
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
LOOP-A-BLOOP-A-DONG ANKIEL!
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I see lots of comments alleging that Shannon is an alcoholic, is this known?
or just allegation?
Did he recently get on the bandwagon or something?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
I have friends who have drank with Mike (outside of the booth)
And one friend who dated Shannon’s granddaughter… he was lucky enough to get to visit Shannon in the booth, and he swears you could smell the alcohol coming from his pours (this was in the late inning, btw).
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I want to know more info about this
he always seems happily drunk on the air…esp in those friday night at shannon’s radio shows!
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
double digits up on the board for the second night in a row
with a day off in between
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The Braves. . .
are awful.
Lucky for the Phils and Mets to have them AND the Nats in the same division
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With another LOB opportunity
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
yes, 1 more inning
If you pull him under his pitch count, it will just take a little longer to get him off of it.
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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
uh, that was a swing?
seriously?
Floppy got hoosed
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Ump was looking at the score board
and his watch. Already near the 2 hour mark and we are still in the 5th.
Bet Miles is thinking " I get to play tomorrow , he he he"
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Our win expectancy is 100%
That’s frightens me.
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wow Yadda, that was awesome
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nice 4-iron shot, Yaddi
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Yadi!
If it was not for that Doumit guy he could get a silver slugger this year. Talk about improving your game…..
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Duncan is with the team
anyone heard any news about his surgery? Has he even had it yet?
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