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Game 130 Open Thread: Braves @ Cardinals 7:15 CDT

Atlanta Braves at St. Louis Cardinals, Aug 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT


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  Wainwright               Morton

6-3, 3.14                3-7, 5.95 

The Cardinals need to beat up on the Richmond Atlanta Braves tonight, plain and simple.  They took 3 out of 4 last time.  No losses allowed this go around.

The story tonight is undoubtedly Adam Wainwright.  Let's run down a few items.  Adam Wainwright needs to be in the rotation especially with Chris Carpenter doubtful again.  The question of whether he'll stay in the rotation may be different depending on who you ask on the Cardinals' payroll.  Tonight's start may go a long way towards answering that question.

Wainwright is, IIRC, on a pitch count.  Even if he wasn't watch for a short leash coming off the injury and 2 gazillion offdays during the next stretch.  The most important thing to see will be whether or not he's got his breaking pitches working namely the curveball.  I'm not sure how much of an impact the finger injury would have on his velocity (when I was in Memphis his velocity looked fine) but being able to apply the proper pressure to snap off that 12-6 kneebuckler is going to be critical.  If he doesn't have the ability to throw that pitch as often or effectively, it's possible that a trip to the pen would be better allowing him to rely more on his fastball and slider.

I'll predict a 5 inning start for the night.  If he can hold them to 2 runs, that would be a pretty significant success.  The Cards need to win both tonight and in the future -- Adam Wainwright is a huge part of that.  Hold your breath.

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7 IP, 80 pitches

Let’s show em what an Ace can do.

Is Azruavatar suggesting that the bullpen might be where Adam belongs? Egads….

If he doesn’t have the ability to throw that pitch as often or effectively, it’s possible that a trip to the pen would be better allowing him to rely more on his fastball and slider

by ubeddie on Aug 22, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

note the "if" in that sentence

if Adam really isn’t back from the injury, and time in the bullpen is better for his rehabbing, then I think everyone would rather he stay in the bullpen until he is healthy again.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

go wainer!

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 22, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Less excited

for Wainer’s start than Carp’s return but still pretty darn excited.

by njnick on Aug 22, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Rule 5

I was intrigued by the Rule 5 discussion in yesterday’s thread, so I checked out who would be eligible this year. I only included players drafted by the Cardinals. I’m not sure if a player aquired from another team like David Freese would be eligible or not.

So here are some who I believe are available this year…

POS / Player / Year Drafted / DOB / Age when drafted

SS Tyler Greene, 05, 8.17.83, 21yo
RHP Mark McCormick, 05, 10.15.83, 21yo
LHP Zack Zuercher, 05, 4.10.84, 21yo
2B Jarrett Hoffpauir, 04, 6.18.83, 20yo*
RHP Matt Scherer, 04, 1.20.83, 21yo
RHP Mike Sillman, 04, 12.3.81, 22yo
C Brandon Yarbrough, 03, 11.9.84, 18yo
C Matt Pagnozzi, 03, 11.10.82, 20yo
RHP Jason Motte, 03, 6.22.82, 20yo*
OF Cody Haerther, 02, 7.14.83, 18yo
3B Travis Hanson, 02, 1.24.81, 21yo

*Currently on 40-man roster, will be eligible if removed from 40-man roster

eligible in 2009
OF Colby Rasmus, 05, 8.11.86, 18yo
RHP Tyler Herron, 05, 8.5.86, 18yo
RHP Josh Wilson, 05, 9.6.86, 18yo
OF Daryl Jones, 05, 6.25.87, 17yo
C Bryan Anderson, 05, 12.16.86, 18yo
RHP Adam Ottavino, 06, 11.22.85, 20yo
OF Jon Jay, 06, 3.15.85, 21yo
1B Mark Hamilton, 06, 7.29.84, 21yo
OF Shane Robinson, 06, 10.30.84, 21yo
OF Luke Gorsett, 06, 5.28.85, 21yo
3B Allen Craig, 06, 7.18.84, 21yo
RHP P.J. Walters, 06, 3.12.85, 21yo
OF Amary Cazana Marti, 06, 9.2.78, 27yo

There are others I left out, simply because I highly doubt any team will take a second glance at them.
The only players I’m really worried about protecting this year are Motte and Hoffpauir, who are already on the 40 man, and perhaps Greene.

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Marti is only 29?

I thought I’d seen something suggesting he was more like 32. Or do his super powers include the ability to change the past?

by StanTheManFan on Aug 22, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is whatever age he says he is.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought the same thing.

but thats what his birthdate was listed as on scouts.com

i think they have the month and day right, but the year should be 1778

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the year should be 0

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 22, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just check his passport...

"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle

by iron duke75 on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't need a passport.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 22, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither do Chinese gymnasts

in China… ;-)

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by iron duke75 on Aug 22, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only guys I'd protect on that '08 list are Motte and McCormick

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 22, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd add greene

simply because he’s a shortstop with pop and can has at least a decent to above average glove

by Glowsticks on Aug 22, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be really surprised if another team would want to draft him and

and keep him on their 25 man roster the entire season.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 22, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Pirates

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Go Wagonmaker

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morning, team. How has Waino looked in rehab?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Adam's already got the playoff beard working

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

i have to start mine in june

to get ready for october

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i almost envy you

i hate shaving every day. Bigfoot ain’t got nothing on me

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why I don't

just trim with a number 2 every 3 or 4 days, clean up the edges and you’re golden.

Of course even if I was shaving every day, I wouldn’t have to shave every day. Red hair blends in well with the complexion, I could shave twice week and no one would notice.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 22, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where'd that pitch miss?

Going to be hard for ADAM to “pitch like Glavine” if he can’t get that corner.

by mojowo11 on Aug 22, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

thats what I was saying

it did not

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

um, control of Uncle Charlie is off so far

guess that should be expected

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf ump

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

zone is tight tonight

Plus he is a little wild

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm trying to not be concerned with his wildness

his body language is saying he’s not happy either. what that means, i dont know.

i’m about as optimistic as recounter though

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

welcome back wainer

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah baby

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright inning

one walk, one hit by jones when he was fooled on the pitch. (credit Chipper)

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

and the walk

he got squeezed

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

not even squeezed

it was a strike and the ump just flat out did not call it

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morton's getting that outside corner

v. Skip

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The second pitch to Yunel

was the one that irritated me

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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pitt up early

Maddux getting hammered

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

er, separate games of course.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder why that game isn't on DTV EI?

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

time for a few runs, boys

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't get Gameday today. Anyone else having this problem?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

working for me

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to reload it once

Been like that a few times lately.

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SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont know what happened,

I hit reply to akaitori but it didnt go up there

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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good AB Luddy

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

keep takin' pitches, APu

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

bring the pain Albert

and by pain i mean hit it to Clark St

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

almost took his head off

atta kid pujols

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

good hit Albert, duck & chuck morton

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay, Rick

TAKE A STRIKE

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

let's see what Lopez can do

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by 82Special on Aug 22, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay, Floppy

time to put us ahead

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i absolutely love that nic name

it brings a smile to my face every time i see it

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

too bad he looked like AK there

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok lopez

drive them in

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

any one else think Tony should flip Rick & Lud in the order on a regular basis?

from 2nd & 4th, you know, so neither one goes into a slump? almost any one who hits in front of Albert on any given night is going to get meat balls to hit. they both seam to love hitting there. but imho, neither one is ready to carry the load of hitting clean up every night.

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I prefer Lud as cleanup

Rick just isn’t disciplined enough

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

and i also think he’s still hurt. otherwise, why is he not in center?

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

showcasing skip?

preparing ank for next year?

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by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good AB top to bottom

we’ll make them pay soon.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Has Miles been given the Reyes corner of the dog house?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

doubtfull

More than likely Tony and Miles talked about the lack of playing time. And it went like this.

Miles: “Yo tone. Im going to take a few days off.”

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The umpire has already made Morton mad

this guys strikezone is bad

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

morton should be on his knees

thanking him for that strike call to lopez. That PA goes totally different if it starts out 2-0 instead of 1-1, imho, and after 5 straight balls the ump shouldn’t expand his zone to give the kid a break…

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by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice K Adam

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

10 pitch inning

very good

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

what an awesome shot of all the FSN on camera guys watching the game & eating

that’s hilarious

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

living the dream...

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by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

should have been strike 3...

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

gets the k anyways

but still. sigh

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice inning. How many pitches does Waino have tonight?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

27

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Aug 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh,

his limit is 80 pitches, if that’s what you were asking… sorry

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by Molina4MVP on Aug 22, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

75

maybe 80 if he can get out of the inning.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i repeat, nice K Adam!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

27 pitches through 2

pretty good

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

"this day in history"

and they do Dave McKay hitting an HR for the twins, instead of Glenn Brummer stealing home for the cardinals?

Interesting choice.

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by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The guy with theGlenn Brummer stole home name must be bummed

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

LET HIM HIT TONY!

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

why do you want him to hit tony?

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by Molina4MVP on Aug 22, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

see what happens when you listen to me Tony?

granted it was a 2-2 count, but after my recent string of bad luck, i’ll take any thing i can get

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

wainer does not like to bunt

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

unless he hits RH, which he should always do

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

thought it was a BITP off the bat

that would have been Bad.

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by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

got the lead

niceness skip

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

here come the bad boys

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was weird, nice job Skippy

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Woot!

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by dan on Aug 22, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

studwick wants some more rbis

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Get sme RBIs APu

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by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

walk him to face Albert with the bases jacked

yeah, that’s sounds about right

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm betting that Morton...

needs to change his pants about now

nowhere to put Albert!!!

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by 82Special on Aug 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright Albert

open this fucker up. let’s have a few “off days” while playing for once.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

this umpire is crazy

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

He coult IBB and take the 1 run penalty instead of a 4 run penalty

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by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

only a 2 run penalty

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

rbi DOUBLE

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

in play runs, what happened?

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by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Albert you RBI double jacking SOB!

I LUV U

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

very nice

keep it going Rick

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

wait for your pitch, Roy

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

very nice oppo

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

walking ank to get to glaus?!?!?!? make them pay santa

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm shocked

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by 82Special on Aug 22, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Santa loves to have the sacks loaded

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He sucks this year

have the damn surgery already!

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Aug 22, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Morton looked as if he was saying Phew

after giving the double. lol

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

3-1

unload troy

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

or BB

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't believe Morton will be in the game

much longer

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby Cox, tactical genius?

Can’t say I’m all that impressed at the moment.

by mojowo11 on Aug 22, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

very reminiscent of TLR in boston

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by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

well thats fantastic

stick a fork in Morton, he’s done

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I would say getting into the braves bullpen this early is a job well done

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Felipe Lopez with teh bass loaded two innings in a row....

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

there's some good news in that somewhere

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 22, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He needs to atone

Six LOB in two at bats would not be good.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 22, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

Four left in scoring position.

by mojowo11 on Aug 22, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

When's the last time you remember a pitcher with control issues ordered to toss an IBB to load the bases?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Is that the fastest we've chased out a starter?

1.1 IP is pretty speedy

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

this year I believe so

Last they we faced morton he only went 3 something.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt we chase a Cub in the first inning in may

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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rich Hill

5/1/08

.2 IP 4 BB

… but only 1 run allowed

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah.

That was awesome

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

that game was crazy

he loads the bases, walks a run in, they pull him, and we leave the bases loaded.

later on, soriano is bumbling everything hit to him, only to redeem himself by homering off izzy to tie the game in the ninth.

and, of course, the skip walkoff

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

take the walk lopez

its coming

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

or not

damn it

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the back of my mind...

i thought we were the ones that could have issues and need a 2nd bullpen reprieve. Luckily Adam looks fine.

that being said, how many runs do we get before we start approaching this as a side session like scenario for adam or do we push a little more given the fact we have a buffer?

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Damnit Lomo!

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

well thats just bad luck Floppy is what that is

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah.

That kinda sucked. But oh well.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

just like AK

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

what was Glaus doing

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I"m guessing he read that as a groundball

and was hightailing it to 2b to avoid the dp

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Payback's a bitch

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

It's almost more fun when it's not pretty

(if it still works)

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

go cards!

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

why are the Braves swinging early?

don’t they want WW to HAVE to pitch

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

When's the last time

Waino batted for the 2nd time in the 3rd inning?

by stlfan on Aug 22, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

it's at least been a month...

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

so Valatan was right.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Aug 22, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice DP & a 5 pitch inning to boot. awesome Adam

hello? is this thing on? where’d everybody go?

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

loading slowly for me...

I get a bunch at a time, then nothing for a while…

by stlfan on Aug 22, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

works fine here

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? It seems to be working okay for me

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 22, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps 'doesn't work' is an overstatement

but it is groggy and slow and horrible compared to how the site renders and loads and performs in Safari

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

never tried Safari

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 22, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Safari = Apple Computer

and no, I don’t work for them, it was just the other browser installed on my system

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

firefox has generally always had issues on the mac

which is why Camino is generally a more popular choice.

that being said, while on Mac – Safari generally kicks everything’s ass. They’ve really amped the speed on that toolkit (webkit.org)

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, that's fair

so PC users might not have the same Firefox issues I do.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

totally different beasts under the covers

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, works great for me

on linux and windows both. I have to use IE at work and it is dreadfully bad. Firefox is the way to go on a real computer, imho.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch, i don’t know what I’d do with IE.

linux? nice.

Ubuntu/FreeBSD user here, just play though. Have to use Windows for work development.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's always worked...

…for me before. Is this a new development?

by stlfan on Aug 22, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was awesome

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're here but

in shock

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just noticed that was exactly one year ago tonight!

The stars align!

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

could be if Floppy

starts taking advantage of his opportunities

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK Adam, it's just you & me big boy

nice hit dude, try not to suck so much IZ2

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I had almost forgotten my mad mancruch on A.D.A.M.

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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently WW did ot lose his batting stroke while on the DL :-)

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

he might have spent

a lot of time in the batting cages. Snice he couldn’t throw.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Add looper head of AK and it's even sadder

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

that is not true

Ak is much better than Looper

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

missed hit and run?

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

i hate you IZ2 with the heat of a 1000 suns

all by myseellfff, don’t wanna beee, alllll byyy myy seelllfff anymore!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

um...

we suck at base running.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Meh.

They just shouldn’t have been running. I think it’s the coaching that sucks.

by jdub176 on Aug 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really hope...

this isn’t the “wasted opportunities game” that bites us in the ass late…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

already had one of those

vs the braves. Started in a very similar manner…

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

good news everyone!

We have the top of the order comming up next inning.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

hey Tony! their steeling your signs! stop putting on the hit and run for pete's sake!

yep, i’m officially crazy. now all the world knows i sit in my basement & talk to myself.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

in my defense, i thought i was all by myself, so i didn't hit the preview button because

i thought no one was here to read it. scroll up & check out the singing impression i did of Scrubs earlier.

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, Looper avg 11 pts higher, slg 10 pts higherand op% 22 pts higher

than AK

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

reply buttons are your friend.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Aug 22, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their pitcher looks stoned

“Where’s Duncan? I need another nickel bag!”

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

“Forget Duncan, Ludwick… Duuuude”

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have taken a few quick tours lately of other SB Nation game threads

and the CARDINALS always have the most posts. Why is that? The best fans?

by ccthemovieman on Aug 22, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

most literate

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

loneliest....

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Aug 22, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i swear i was all alone for the last 20+ minutes

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

we were being quite

to see if you would go away. It didn’t work. Instead you started signing.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like i need to look into getting Safari

Firefox totally crapped out on me

so uh, you all want me to leave uh?

/hangs head & walks into the darkness, all by myself

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can stay

as long as you quit singing…damn songs are in my head now

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 22, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

deal

i was doing my best Dr Reed & Dr Glock impression from Scrubs.

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

by all means

Continue then…can’t get enough of the Scrubs references.
And thanks for the reminder to change my Scrubs settings on the DVR to ABC

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 22, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

established blog

would be the #1 reason.

best fans? generally.

but can be just as harsh as the best of them. depends on the team on the field

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of other teams have much larger non-SB Nation blogs

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

grea play pujols

baller

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

isn't it funny how great bats...

win gold gloves? yet, here’s albert, the best hitting AND fielding 1st baseman in the league, and derrek lee will win by default…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes but if you take in account

that Lee is…
Um…
hmm..
Lee has…

Wait..

I’ll get back to you.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

think the argument is: "he can jump higher.

and can dig ‘em. and he’s taller so he has more range"

The only statistic worth using is the player’s height, you know.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap still can

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap still can't get gameday - and broadcast devoted to some self promotion by chatty cathy

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

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by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

ive missed you adam

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

took adam

11 pitches to get out of that inning.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

go seven my boy, go seven

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was freaking crazy, the page suddenly stopped showing everyone's comments

i seriously thought i was talking to myself for the last 20+ minutes

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

next time hit f5

usually works here.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was, it didn't start working again till i went to the main page

i didn’t think anything was wrong because i have other tabs & windows open & they are working fine. i seriously thought every one just up & left all of a sudden. hence my weird comments.

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

198.98 to Cards Care

very nice

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

lineup has done a great job of working the count tonight

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's way harder to do against top tier pitching

when they throw strikes anyway

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by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wah wah waaah


“woops. shouldn’t have left that one up.”

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

is this the sound you’re looking for?

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That will work

but this is quicker

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes!

Nice offensive support for Waino’s return.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 22, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

don't look behind you, Chipper

AP is gaining fast

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert you RBI single hitting SOB!

bum elbow & all, I STILL LUV U

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

braves announcers seem to be in shock that albert's gone the other way twice...

he doesn’t go that way as much as he used to, but it’s not like he’s some sort of dead pull guy…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 22, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

freakin' Pirates

I’m beginning to hate that team.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 22, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

the pittsburgh pirates:

out to kill the cardinals and no one else…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 22, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should be able to loan players

for 15 day stints.

while playing the braves I’d shift a couple of players to help them out

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

um, albert vs chipper

albert 3, chip 1

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 22, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Ank has been smoking the ball

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

So has this guy

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait. You said "ball"

My bad

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols heeding the stop sign!

Something’s come over him.

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Mr Doubles is back baby!

time to get of the schnide Floppy!

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

About 2 % lower than leading Pirates 10 - 2 in the 7th - or some such

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HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Floppy

third time’s a charm

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Pirates need to come back and win

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

wow...

what a terrible night for lopez…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 22, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Floppy you so sloppy tonight

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

keep your head up Lopez

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

8 LOB

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

walking Yadier intentionally

make em pay waino

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

they do know that Wainwright is 2/2 tonight, ya?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

smile :)

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we get up 12-0

maybe we’ll see some grit on the mound. no point using a pen arm there.

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know

That might be something that lights a fire under them for the next two games.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

“Let sleeping does lie,” as they say.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 22, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Save grit for the times when WE are getting embarrassed.

by tangledbrett on Aug 22, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braves have thrown

50+ more pitches than Wainwright in .1 less innings.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

actually

his first slam occurred nine years ago with betty tomeczek after the homecoming dance

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this pace,

waino could go 8IP, 86 Pitches…

He might be just surprising us all

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

only if perez is starting

and wainwright relieves in the second inning for the save

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only in a parallel word

that is the same as this one, only two years behind. Isn’t that what we determined?

by tangledbrett on Aug 22, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check this out...

Awesome

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

if i was on acid i wouldn’t leave that page for two hours.

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

that reminds me of when that 70's show had the moving wall paper

behind the parents when one of the younger characters was on pot

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

weren't the parents' heads switched

like, their heads were on each others’ bodies?

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes that did happen

the best one was the last season when kitty got high & red & steven’s heads got big & small

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

"You don't have bad luck Eric."

“The reason bad things happen to you is because you’re a dumbass.”

"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle

by iron duke75 on Aug 22, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the change seems better too

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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

pitt within one

go pirates go

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Please put in Gagné

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, well.

A shutout opportunity would have gone to his head. I keep telling myself that.

by StanTheManFan on Aug 22, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

it could easily have tempted Tony to leave him in there

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was not

a very good pitch. WW gives up home runs. But most of what he gives up are solo shots.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

that's almost how you should be pitchign with a six run lead

just put it out there and make them make contact

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously, you shouldn't leave the ball up over the center of the plate like that

but there’s no reason to try to be all that fine

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 22, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't complaining.

It’s the reason he is sitting under 60 pitches. Some times you miss. And at this level your mistakes end up like that one more often than not.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

way to jinx him Dan & Al

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Watching Wainwright

look like his old self, and seeing Carpenter do the same, it makes me sick they’ve been out of action for so long. Well……hopefully they will both be 100 percent next year. It’s a nice thought.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 22, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

why not try for two

I think he could try to get to 80 pitches tonight…he was at 64 last time out

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

im taking it inning by inning

But if he gets out of the 6th north of 70 pitches I wouldn’t send him back out for the 7th.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess that nakes sense

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

*makes*

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Skip having a great August

hitting .366 w OPS of .865

now another hit

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

if skip was even DECENT against lefties...

he would be an all-star caliber player in my opinion…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 22, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could get excited about a

Skip/Mather platoon next year

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

Rasmus; Ludwick; Ankiel, Skip; Mather; and Barton.

Someone has to go.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasting him

He has played in minors long enough, imo. He should be dealt in some package than

by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 22, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it will be verrrrry interesting...

to see how the outfield situation shakes out over the winter and maybe into spring training…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 22, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

single, single, single,

SLAM-A-LAMA-JACKDONGERY

you can do it Albert!

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

DeSalvo seems to not want to pitch to A Pu

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by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of Preacher Roe

when asked how he’d pitch to Musial…

“I’d throw him four wide ones and then try to pick him off first.”

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by iron duke75 on Aug 22, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would you when you have a "base open"

…and there are no outs….
That’s just smart pitching…choose your battles…

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

because rick ankiel is a beast

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ATL broadcasters

are worried Albert is going to catch Chipper tonight.

He’s gained four points on him already, and Chipper had a hit even.

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Radio guys just sort of notice that Luddy might be in the running for MVP

Insightful . ..

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

do you mean Shannon and Rooney

you wouldn’t make fun of them would you?

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair,

Mike had to give up drinking.

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

When, why? Kind of missed the slurve dlivery

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HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure when

but it’s kidney or liver related if i remember correctly

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

he’s been hanging out with chris duncan lately… because he often sounds like he’s on something

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that verifiably true?

b/c I swear, last Saturday night, he couldn’t stop laughing about something – and I swear he was tanked!

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if it is verifiably true

but Mike had to quit baseball because of nephritis, and drinking is not recommended with nephritis, so maybe he was finally talked into it/quit on his own.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 22, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last I heard

he quit drinking during games a few years ago, but still will have a nip or two postgame. I believe he even bought a loft downtown in case he has one too many and can’t make the drive back to belleville.

But you didn’t hear that from me.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Aug 22, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

guys I know take cabs

guys involved with professional baseball buy downtown lofts, “just in case”.

I love it.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 23, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder what the recrd is for most innings with the bases loaded

We’ve doen it 4 of 5 inings so far

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by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Cmon Rick, time to get one

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

a bloop

why not? He had two hard hit balls without a hit. (but an RBI.)

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOOP-A-BLOOP-A-DONG ANKIEL!

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

how did hombre get to third?

he must have been sprinting as soon as the bat touched the ball

by adiueordie on Aug 22, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Desalvo

Is now trying to catch wainwright in pitches….

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I see lots of comments alleging that Shannon is an alcoholic, is this known?

or just allegation?
Did he recently get on the bandwagon or something?

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by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I have friends who have drank with Mike (outside of the booth)

And one friend who dated Shannon’s granddaughter… he was lucky enough to get to visit Shannon in the booth, and he swears you could smell the alcohol coming from his pours (this was in the late inning, btw).

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by dan on Aug 22, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to know more info about this

he always seems happily drunk on the air…esp in those friday night at shannon’s radio shows!

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 22, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

double digits up on the board for the second night in a row

with a day off in between

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Braves. . .

are awful.

Lucky for the Phils and Mets to have them AND the Nats in the same division

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

With another LOB opportunity

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

okay

So this was a long inning… Do you bring out WW still?

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

yes, 1 more inning

If you pull him under his pitch count, it will just take a little longer to get him off of it.

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by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 22, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh, that was a swing?

seriously?

Floppy got hoosed

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by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Ump was looking at the score board

and his watch. Already near the 2 hour mark and we are still in the 5th.

by Evilfrog on Aug 22, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

christ...

felipe may need the rest of the night off…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

10 LOB

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bet Miles is thinking " I get to play tomorrow , he he he"

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Our win expectancy is 100%

That’s frightens me.

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by dan on Aug 22, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

wow Yadda, that was awesome

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

nice 4-iron shot, Yaddi

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by gocards62 on Aug 22, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

what in the world...

sometimes it’s just your night?

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 22, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Yadi!

If it was not for that Doumit guy he could get a silver slugger this year. Talk about improving your game…..

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 22, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice game

Adam!

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Aug 22, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Duncan is with the team

anyone heard any news about his surgery? Has he even had it yet?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 22, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Had it.

Successful (as in it didn’t kill him). They won’t know how successful until the end of the year or so.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Aug 22, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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