Game 127 Overflow
by chuckb on Aug 17, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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Let's finish it off, guys. These are the teams we're supposed to beat.
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dusty has to be happy
the cards are clogging up the bases
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 17, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda wish someone with more patience than Ankiel was up right now.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he can show patience sometimes
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least he's not prone to the double play
strikeout or HR guy isn’t horrible to have up righ tnow
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 17, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seemed pretty terrible to me
Swung at a lot of balls, or questionable pitches he’d never hit anyways.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
after the fact, it was a horrible at bat.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 17, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can make that prediction 7 of 10 times to any hitter and be right
by FunkeeC on Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7-10 times someone will swing at a bunch of balls when a pitcher is clearly wild?
I never predicted an out, I just predicted having a free swinger is not good right now.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he could have just as easily came up and hit a home run
and someone like MIles would have had just as much of a chance of hitting into a dp
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Volquez would have to throw a strike for that to happen
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with TheBirds
Ankiel is almost always jumpy and undisciplined with a runner on third and fewer than two outs. In 23 plate appearances this year, he’s gotten the run home only a quarter of the time, and he’s struck out 11 times.
by briangunn on Aug 17, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He refuses to call timeout
he refuses to step out of the box. He just stands there and twitches. It may be the same mental aspect that caused him to throw the ball into the owner’s box when he was a pitcher.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny
i was thinking the same thing today… i’ve always thought ankiel was immune to mental doubts in the batter’s box, only b/c it’s such a reactive discipline (as opposed to pitching, or when he has plenty of time to throw as a fielder, both of which seem to cause him problems). but perhaps there’s something about having that runner on third — essentially all you can do is fail — that gives him the yips.
then again, i just checked his ’07 stats with a runner on 3rd, less than two outs. he hit .727 with a 1.727 slugging percentage and only 1 strikeout in 16 plate appearances. wow…
by briangunn on Aug 17, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok santa
pick up ank
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 17, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
boy
didn’t expect that to happen
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
time to drop off lots of presents
Santa
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Try that changeup to Glaus
I dare ya.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dare accepted
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh
noted
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jesus
not good
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
doh
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GOD TERRIBLE JOB THERE
Honestly I’d rather have a couple of cardboard cutouts then a couple of free swingers there.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's what I was thinking
we are going up against one of the toughest pitchers in the league right now btw
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the guy throws a 96 mph fastball
and locates his change as well. What are you supposed to do?
by Red in Chicago on Aug 17, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
free swinger?
Rick, kinda. But hell, Glaus leads the team in P/PA w/ 200AB or better
and Rick is top middle of the pack
You do realize these are Cardinals players, correct?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glaus with the bases loaded
loves to swing away.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Career : .806 OPS in 115 PA
2008 : .774 OPS in 16 PA (bbaip shows a huge regression is needed, he’s been quite unlucky)
I wouldn’t say that it’s detrimental to the team by those numbers, but clearly it’s a small sample size
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This just in:
Volquez is really good. And it’s the Reds, for crying out loud. Two runs shouldn’t be insurmountable.
by mattisnotfrench on Aug 17, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do not think we are going to get a better chance than that
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's see if we can get a crack at their middle relief
that inning got his pitch count up a bit
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 17, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
80
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's too bad we've used the "free swing" strategy tonigh
Volquez has been wild, walked a few, we really could’ve gotten his pitch count up even if it resulted in more K’s in the early innings
by duncans_army on Aug 17, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
until Volquez is out of the game...
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, bad approach
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Dusty is in charge:
Volquez is never coming out of this game…..
by Woodwork on Aug 17, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just used his closer last night, right?
by Red in Chicago on Aug 17, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably still good to pitch
I’d imagine the reds haven’t had a save situation in a while.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great play iz2
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 17, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They would have had a run there if Dusty
hadn’t called for the steal.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 17, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well you knew...
the reds would tack on after the cardinals pissed away the scoring chance in the top half…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 17, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good play Tony
put Dusty on the spot, PH or P
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Dusty isn't dumb enough
to lift Volquez right now.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 17, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never knew Dusty to err on that side of working his star pitchers, anyway
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 17, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The better question is wehtehr or not dusty's already decided that Volquez is working a CG today
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 17, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
QS from Lohse
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That sucks
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 17, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pez got hit!
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought you had to throw the guy out
if he hits a guy after receiving a warning.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is why all this umpire warning stuff is stupid
none of the inside pitches were brushbacks, and this was just a non-breaking curveball that ended up in Lopez’sshoulder
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 17, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why bat Iz here?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Miles would have been a better choice.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 17, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or mather
and slide lopez over
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Itz was a slap hitter
who poked it and ran like hell, I wouldn’t be so down on him; but he seems to think he is a power hitter
by the Tewk on Aug 17, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's all kinds of confused
I don’t know why he thinks he’s a switch hitter. He’s got decent athletic ability, but he wastes it.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should be TOLD not to hit lefty anymore
again it comes down to the coaching, there are ways to tell a guy that you would prefer him not to do something, especially when it is obvious when its not working
by buzzburton33 on Aug 17, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cmon redbirds come back
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
crappers
he moves Lopez to SS anyway; I’m miffed
by the Tewk on Aug 17, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just noticed that
so again, why in the hell would you bat Iz? lol
saving a bench? sigh
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cmon cards
gotta win this one. cubs are losing too
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can't catch the cubs
how are the brewers doing, really bummed that they came back last night.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can always hope the Brewers win
and the Cubs come in third.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 17, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the way this is going...
i can only hope kershaw stifles milwaukee like he did us…or it’s back to 3 games…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 17, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Suppan vs. Kershaw
I like the Dodgers’ chances as long as Kershaw doesn’t meltdown.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can we EVER
stop a single up the middle?
by the Tewk on Aug 17, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
brandon phillips =
my least favorite red
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 17, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate Edwin Encarnacion
I thought he was supposed to suck, why does he always have a good day against the cards.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
it’s so nice seeing a 2nd baseman get his 20th HR.
oh wait, it’s not ours
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cromit
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cubs have tied it
runners on second and third with nobody out
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not really no
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i mean, they had to wait a while
but they’re having a good time this year.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Franklin
Your slider still sucks, and you got away with a reallll shitty one there. Just so you know.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Every time the Cards get to 14 over .500
run into a wall (or Volquez). I seriously think the time they get to 15 over is the time they go on a run. If that ever happens.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's still a chance
5 games against the Pirates and braves could get us to 15 over.
mil, astros, houston, marlins, then cubs could get us back to 10 over though.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
-houston + arizona
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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...after 2 weeks of not gaining any ground against the Cubs or Crew & finally
getting to 2 back in the WC, they have a performance like today against a horrible team that you should beat regardless of Volquez’ outing. But, hey, they won the series yesterday, so Tony’s happy. This is a part of the schedule that they HAVE to & should take advantage of & this Red’s lineup puts up @ least a 6 spot on em & its not over yet.
I guess a guy can only hope that the Crew loses later today & it will be a wash.
by buzzburton33 on Aug 17, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time for a seven run inning
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I blame this game on gdm426.
If the score holds won’t he be like 0-26 in games he’s seen?
by mattisnotfrench on Aug 17, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we are coming back yo
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 out seven run rally
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Santa time
keep the rally going baby
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least I'm watching Groundhog Day during this crap
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
such a fitting movie
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Didn’t think of it that way. At least it’s toward the end, so maybe we’re about to get out of the rut.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so far so good with the two out rally
come on fellow posters, help me out
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLBrumors.com
Thinks Uggla will be shopped during the offseason. I doubt we’d want to give up “enough” to get him, but would we want him if we could? His defense is bad, but is it something Oquendo could improve?
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 17, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like orlando hudson
and all he would take is money.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how long is he controlled? he still has a couple three years doesn’t he?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol wow
the cubs put a 8 spot up in the seventh
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, there needs to be a statistical metric
that can quantify players with awful ‘looking’ swings. I mean, ones that look like they have no chance of ever touching the ball.
Example: Kennedy, Adam.
I’ll never understand how he even makes contact. His bat looks like it goes straight up in the air and the ball is coming in straight. So, the bat is literally in the plane of the ball at only 1 moment. It is rather quite amazing.
Is there a worse looking swing in baseball?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, since the bat has width, it's not really a plane
Same for the ball. It’s more like two rectangles that are at weird angles to each other. Your point is still pretty valid though.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, most 'bad' hitters
atleast have their bat go through the strikezone towards the pitcher. This somewhat increases their chances of the bat contacting the ball at multiple points, even if it isn’t a direct hit.
Kennedy’s swing, however, looks like a toddler swinging a plastic bat. He hacks straight up at it. It makes it seem as if the only time it could actually hit the ball is the precise moment that the bat and the ball intersect at 1 random point over the plate.
There are weird stances, violent swings, pitchers who simply can’t hit. But I’ve never seen a hitter whose actual swing is so bizarre. Results dictate playing time, I guess, but I can’t understand how he made it to this level of professionals baseball with that swing. And I still can’t believe David Eckstein and Adam Kennedy’s agent talked Walt into signing this guy long term.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
It looks like at least a 45 degree angle, and he doesn’t have enough strength/power for that swing to be effective. He has to hit it almost perfect to get any decent contact on it.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
from a position player?
I am not so sure that Piniero’s doesn’t look better than AK’s every now and then.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 17, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhh, can't think of one.
I hated duncan’s swing a lot, but his is still probably better.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Craig Counsell's swing just annoys me
but he’s still not as bad.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good job Franklin
what a stud
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
we actually scored a run!
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And gave it right back
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but franklin gave it back so it is cool
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ak could have cut in half with a single
so does he still have good numbers vs. volquez?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 17, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
actually he hit two line drives against Volquez, 1 was a single
the other one was a hit robbed by Valentine
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Valentin
When did he get so fat?
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm with hl on this one
how does ak ever hit a line drive against anybody with that swing?
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by sportsman on Aug 17, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't that against
Stormy Weathers?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the k with 2 on, yes
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by sportsman on Aug 17, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Franklin’s signed for next year too. They better not excercise his 2010 option.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Run Molina
no excuse
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, 2 singles with runners at 2nd and 3rd in this game
and the score is 7-5 (atleast) with 2 on and no outs in the 9th.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lots of missed opportunities
Really wish the BP wouldn’t have let this one get out of hand too.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, so now it's 7-2
and then we need 2 more runners and a GS.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel has to bat with no one getting out
and then hit a GS, please.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
need something
scoring only 2 runs in that ballpark is inexcusable, no matter who pitches
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 17, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it happens & you EVER leave this forum again...
and Apu gets himself out
by buzzburton33 on Aug 17, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they have Denny Graves in the pen?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad it's not a HR
I know it’s odd, but a double for some reason is better psychologically for keeping a rally going.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hrabosky said the same thing
“He hit’s it out and you gotta start all over again.”
I disagree with the whole, homers-as-rally-killers thing, as does Fernando Tatis.
by liam on Aug 17, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hits it out, you're only down by 2
Right now, we’re still down by 4
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one still has some life
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Pujols walks
Ankiel and Glaus will come up with chances to tie it.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Going on contact
down 4? Really Skip?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does not matter
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might that have been a DP
if he hadn’t gone there?
by liam on Aug 17, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do not think so
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How
there were runners at 2nd and 3rd, right?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
skip on third after luds double
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stupid play by encarnacion
i hope they pay for it
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 17, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Need another runner
get on base Ank!
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3-0
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just get the tying run to the plate
give me one AB of excitement.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Take a walk baby
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
crap
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-0 on Pujols and Ankiel
and both end up swinging at ball 4.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was ridiculous
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
story of the day
pretty much
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which one was ball 4 to Albert
The 3-0? I’m going by gameday, so that’s what it looks like to me.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one he hit
and pulled looked like Ball 4.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, going back and looking at it
it appears that Strike 1 was high for Ball 4 but Strike 2 was probably a strike.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You expect it from ANK, but why would Apu even think of swinging on 3-0 there, even though he
should be able to. He has to quit pressing so much, hes getting himself out ALOT the last 2 months
by buzzburton33 on Aug 17, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another 9th inning k by rick
swinging at ball 4
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and ball 5
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awful at bats
what the hell, you mean nothing. take the fracking walk
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously, the guy was not throwing strikes
he was handing the game to us. What the hell are our batters doing. Such stupid stupid baseball
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
We need a late innings “clutch” replacement for Rick. Mather when it’s a righty starter on the day, Skip when it’s a lefty starter.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree, or we need to just have a manager who isn't afraid to give the take sign.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OPS by innings
7th: .627
8th: .742
9th: .346(!)
extras: .200 (!!!!!!!!!)
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then look at this one
1-3: 1.128
4-6: .980
7-9: .583
extras: .200
Only 10 PAs in extras, but that decline is not a good sign
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, late inning game on the line, I PH for ankiel
that’s why I wouldn’t last as a manager in the bigs, everyone would hate me.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't do it everytime
But I wouldn’t let him keep going out there to put up that line
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel is struggling right now.
Since getting injured, his HR is the only XBH he has. The Catch-22 is that he needs to play to get back in a groove, but he may still be injured, thus giving away ABs.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly it didn't affect him while hitting.
I think it’s just a combination or rust/slumping.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-0 Dodgers
Kemp homers on 1st pitch.
Manny ropes one into the OF.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
go dodgers
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braun misplays a ball
double for Loney, still only 1 out. Soup may put this one in the bag earlier tonight.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
it pisses me off so much. These guys are trying to tie the game when they cannot.
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, collectively we sucked as a team all in all today.
Lohse was decent, but did have control issues and really ramped his pitch count. We had scoring chances a few innings and did nothing. Almost everyone was at fault today, from Pu to Iz. Garcia left a fastball right in Phillips wheelhouse, Franklin did his norm.
Would rather lose one like that then to lose one where we’re winning at the close of the 8th. Something we’ve done a lot.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hopefully LaRussa will chew them out
but he’ll probably just pat them on the back for trying to mount a comeback.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know,
I have always been the kind of guy that prefers when guys take a lot of pitches and work the count and pick and choose times to be aggressive. I am this way because I think it leads to getting to the bullpen early
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there is a time and place for it.
Today in Cincy was they time and place. None of the Reds’ pitchers had good command.
I also think that some days if all you do is take you’ll get the starter out after the 6th but then you’ll have 0 runs.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
when a guy has as good stuff as Volquez you have to make him throw pitches. Because he is the kind of guy that usually has 100 pitches by the 6th
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, bounce back tommorrow guys
I really thought after the double by Ludwick and the way the Francisco Cordero was throwing that we were going to come back. But just terrible at bats by Pujols and Ankiel
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
both of them have stupid tendencies to swing 3-0
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 17, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As frustrating as today was
Pu for the career : 1.572 OPS with over .700 SLG. In 498 PA he’s walked 368
Ank for the career : 43 PA walked 29 times, over ..571 SLG with an OPS over 1.3
I don’t know if I would say tendencies. Ank for sure walks quite a bit, and when Pu swings, ball tends to go boom.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your OPS is going to naturally be really high on 3-0 results
Because of all the walks
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet you 1 billion real dollars
we don’t lose tomorrow.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i know, cus we have a day off
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's hope the Dodgers can hold on and win this time
so atleast we’ll stay only 2 back
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 17, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kershaw Strikes out Weeks with the bases loaded.
This guy’s starts are always the same. Gets into jams early and gets out of them.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope so after the way the homeplate ump almost put the screws to the Dodger pitcher in the 2nd
but he got out of it
by buzzburton33 on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh Tony
you look foolish when you talk like that.
" I have no comment about Volquez"
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid Duncan
He is saying he does not want both Carpenter and Wainwright in the rotation at the same time. That is like saying. “I do not feel like having the best situation we can have to win.” What the hell
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The brewers should move Sheets are Sabathia to the BP.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
I just pictured someone saying it with an Irish or Scottish accent
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did they really say that?
Why can’t we have our two best starters in the rotation at the same time?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
listen everytime I call for the firing of TLR there is an outcry
and then more sound bites emerge.
Don’t give me the “This team wouldn’t be where it is without tlr junk”, this team has plenty of talent on the field.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those wouldn't be the people
that never question anything LaRussa ever does, would they?
Don’t sweat them, it’s not worth it. You have your own opinion, they borrow theirs.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Dunc
but i’m ready for the Dunc and TLR era of Cardinals baseball to end.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 17, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers have a real tough august schedule
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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so they can ill-afford to have 2 aces in their rotation.
Better convert one to a reliever quickly.
by TheBirds on Aug 17, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just dont get this team sometimes
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean September
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 17, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aww.....the TLR and Duncan bashing.....
Wouldn’t be a game thread without it.
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 17, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For the people who have been able to watch most games
Do you notice anything different that Lohse is doing that’s making him less effective than he was earler in the year? Granted, he did have a quality start today (by the very minimum), but he was upwards of 120 pitches in six innings. In his last five starts (coming into today) he’s put up a line of:
5 GS
1 W
3 L
29.2 IP
21 ER
36 H
5 BB
25 K
6 HR
6.37 ERA
.300/.325/.550/.875 against
His ERA+ has fallen to 108 (before today) so he’s barely an above league-average pitcher anymore. Hardly a top-of-the-rotation guy. The 1.52 BB/9, 10.92 H/9, and 7.58 K/9 tell me he’s not having major control issues. His WHIP over that time is 1.38, which is .10 higher than his season numbers so far, or in other words, an extra hit or walk per ten innings. The 6 HR in 5 starts is a bit unnerving. What is it that is making him not be the pitcher he was earlier this season?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lohse
simply ain’t THAT good. he’s not an un-hittable guy. doesn’t k enough people. he skated by the 1st half. there’s a reason he’s league-average.
by KeepOnRolen on Aug 17, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has not located his fastball in the last few starts
like the way he was earlier this year. Of course, not very many pitchers in the entire league can paint the black consistently like the way the he was, so it’s not too surprising he’s fallen back into reality.
Even with the rest belated, everything is antiquated
Are you writing from the heart?
Are you writing from the heart?
by Alxfritz on Aug 17, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many thanks
Just what I was looking for
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 17, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mother F-ing Ryan Braun - Dodgers blow 5-1 lead in the 9th
Wonder why Torre didn’t go to Broxton when it turned 5-3? Bastard brew crew DAMN!
Silver lining – Vin Scully listening into the 9th and, perhaps, beyond.
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 17, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Braun has out-douched himself...
with the bat flip behind the back. What a jackass…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 17, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I could've hit that hanging curve out
at least the douche is out of the game for defensive purposes
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 17, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I dislike the Cubs...
I would rather see them get it done before Milwaukee. They are 100% classless…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 17, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unforutunately, games like this....
…make Milwaukee appear (to themselves anyway) ‘destined’….
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 17, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank god
Dodgers win in walk off HR
All is forgotton
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 17, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Should have won last night
had 2 chances to do it (9th and 10th) and couldn’t get a clean basehit.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your back!!!???
great news – welcome back HCL…
Unfortunately, I watched last night’s game too. That was def. a winnable game for LA
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 17, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention...
there were 2 outs and none on before milwaukee put together the go-ahead rally in the 10th…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 17, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Brewer comeback was helped alot by the fact that the 1st Dodger pitcher got hosed on a
strikeout to Kendall in the 9th w/one out…he painted the outside corner & didnt get the call & Mr. “I look like Tom Hanks from his ‘Philadelphia’ role” dribbled one up the middle to start the rally, then a double error by Loney the 1st basemen didnt help either. The rookie homeplate ump was pretty bad throughout for both sides from what I saw.
It was, fortunately, ALMOST a total meltdown…lucky for the Dodgers, they were @ home.
by buzzburton33 on Aug 17, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm also glad
to see the return of the legend!
by KeepOnRolen on Aug 17, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes one wonder
if we put izzy on waivers, would the dodgers pick him? chan ho, can’t believe he was pitching in that situation and i would think torre might want the veteran—certainly must pain him to watch chan ho not be mariano. the way izzy is going, i’m afraid 1) no one would sign and we get no picks or 2) he ends up not being even a B free agent and we get nothing even if he does sign. i wonder if they did put his name out there?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 17, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Mets bullpen is awful
hopefully we could get them to try to revive Generation K.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mets are bad, true
but we are up against them for the wc much more so than LA. rather see him go west
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 17, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
0-26
i am sorry
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 18, 2008 1:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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