Game 127 Overflow
Let's finish it off, guys. These are the teams we're supposed to beat.
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dusty has to be happy
the cards are clogging up the bases
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on
Aug 17, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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Kinda wish someone with more patience than Ankiel was up right now.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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he can show patience sometimes
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
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at least he's not prone to the double play
strikeout or HR guy isn’t horrible to have up righ tnow
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Aug 17, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
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seemed pretty terrible to me
Swung at a lot of balls, or questionable pitches he’d never hit anyways.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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yes
after the fact, it was a horrible at bat.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Aug 17, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
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you can make that prediction 7 of 10 times to any hitter and be right
by FunkeeC on
Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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7-10 times someone will swing at a bunch of balls when a pitcher is clearly wild?
I never predicted an out, I just predicted having a free swinger is not good right now.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
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but he could have just as easily came up and hit a home run
and someone like MIles would have had just as much of a chance of hitting into a dp
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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Volquez would have to throw a strike for that to happen
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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I agree with TheBirds
Ankiel is almost always jumpy and undisciplined with a runner on third and fewer than two outs. In 23 plate appearances this year, he’s gotten the run home only a quarter of the time, and he’s struck out 11 times.
by briangunn on
Aug 17, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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He refuses to call timeout
he refuses to step out of the box. He just stands there and twitches. It may be the same mental aspect that caused him to throw the ball into the owner’s box when he was a pitcher.
by Hardcore Legend on
Aug 17, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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funny
i was thinking the same thing today… i’ve always thought ankiel was immune to mental doubts in the batter’s box, only b/c it’s such a reactive discipline (as opposed to pitching, or when he has plenty of time to throw as a fielder, both of which seem to cause him problems). but perhaps there’s something about having that runner on third — essentially all you can do is fail — that gives him the yips.
then again, i just checked his ’07 stats with a runner on 3rd, less than two outs. he hit .727 with a 1.727 slugging percentage and only 1 strikeout in 16 plate appearances. wow…
by briangunn on
Aug 17, 2008 11:29 PM EDT
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ok santa
pick up ank
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by ihavebadknees on
Aug 17, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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boy
didn’t expect that to happen
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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time to drop off lots of presents
Santa
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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Try that changeup to Glaus
I dare ya.
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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Dare accepted
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
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sigh
noted
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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jesus
not good
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on
Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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doh
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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GOD TERRIBLE JOB THERE
Honestly I’d rather have a couple of cardboard cutouts then a couple of free swingers there.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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that's what I was thinking
we are going up against one of the toughest pitchers in the league right now btw
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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When the guy throws a 96 mph fastball
and locates his change as well. What are you supposed to do?
by Red in Chicago on
Aug 17, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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free swinger?
Rick, kinda. But hell, Glaus leads the team in P/PA w/ 200AB or better
and Rick is top middle of the pack
You do realize these are Cardinals players, correct?
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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Glaus with the bases loaded
loves to swing away.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
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Career : .806 OPS in 115 PA
2008 : .774 OPS in 16 PA (bbaip shows a huge regression is needed, he’s been quite unlucky)
I wouldn’t say that it’s detrimental to the team by those numbers, but clearly it’s a small sample size
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
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This just in:
Volquez is really good. And it’s the Reds, for crying out loud. Two runs shouldn’t be insurmountable.
by mattisnotfrench on
Aug 17, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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I do not think we are going to get a better chance than that
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
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Well, let's see if we can get a crack at their middle relief
that inning got his pitch count up a bit
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Aug 17, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
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80
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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it's too bad we've used the "free swing" strategy tonigh
Volquez has been wild, walked a few, we really could’ve gotten his pitch count up even if it resulted in more K’s in the early innings
by duncans_army on
Aug 17, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
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until Volquez is out of the game...
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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yeah, bad approach
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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And Dusty is in charge:
Volquez is never coming out of this game…..
by Woodwork on
Aug 17, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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Just used his closer last night, right?
by Red in Chicago on
Aug 17, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
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probably still good to pitch
I’d imagine the reds haven’t had a save situation in a while.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
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great play iz2
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by ihavebadknees on
Aug 17, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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They would have had a run there if Dusty
hadn’t called for the steal.
by Red in Chicago on
Aug 17, 2008 3:05 PM EDT
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well you knew...
the reds would tack on after the cardinals pissed away the scoring chance in the top half…
by LukeMP1186 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
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Good play Tony
put Dusty on the spot, PH or P
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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Even Dusty isn't dumb enough
to lift Volquez right now.
by Red in Chicago on
Aug 17, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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I never knew Dusty to err on that side of working his star pitchers, anyway
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by Valatan on
Aug 17, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
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The better question is wehtehr or not dusty's already decided that Volquez is working a CG today
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by Valatan on
Aug 17, 2008 3:12 PM EDT
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QS from Lohse
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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That sucks
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Aug 17, 2008 3:13 PM EDT
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Pez got hit!
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 3:17 PM EDT
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I thought you had to throw the guy out
if he hits a guy after receiving a warning.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 3:18 PM EDT
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This is why all this umpire warning stuff is stupid
none of the inside pitches were brushbacks, and this was just a non-breaking curveball that ended up in Lopez’sshoulder
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by Valatan on
Aug 17, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
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Why bat Iz here?
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
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Miles would have been a better choice.
by Red in Chicago on
Aug 17, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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or mather
and slide lopez over
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
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if Itz was a slap hitter
who poked it and ran like hell, I wouldn’t be so down on him; but he seems to think he is a power hitter
by the Tewk on
Aug 17, 2008 3:22 PM EDT
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+1
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
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he's all kinds of confused
I don’t know why he thinks he’s a switch hitter. He’s got decent athletic ability, but he wastes it.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
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He should be TOLD not to hit lefty anymore
again it comes down to the coaching, there are ways to tell a guy that you would prefer him not to do something, especially when it is obvious when its not working
by buzzburton33 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:27 PM EDT
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cmon redbirds come back
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
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crappers
he moves Lopez to SS anyway; I’m miffed
by the Tewk on
Aug 17, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
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just noticed that
so again, why in the hell would you bat Iz? lol
saving a bench? sigh
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
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cmon cards
gotta win this one. cubs are losing too
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
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can't catch the cubs
how are the brewers doing, really bummed that they came back last night.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
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We can always hope the Brewers win
and the Cubs come in third.
by Red in Chicago on
Aug 17, 2008 3:29 PM EDT
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the way this is going...
i can only hope kershaw stifles milwaukee like he did us…or it’s back to 3 games…
by LukeMP1186 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
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Suppan vs. Kershaw
I like the Dodgers’ chances as long as Kershaw doesn’t meltdown.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 3:28 PM EDT
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can we EVER
stop a single up the middle?
by the Tewk on
Aug 17, 2008 3:27 PM EDT
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brandon phillips =
my least favorite red
by LukeMP1186 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:28 PM EDT
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I hate Edwin Encarnacion
I thought he was supposed to suck, why does he always have a good day against the cards.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
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Wow
it’s so nice seeing a 2nd baseman get his 20th HR.
oh wait, it’s not ours
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Aug 17, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
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Cromit
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
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cubs have tied it
runners on second and third with nobody out
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:34 PM EDT
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not really no
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:36 PM EDT
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i mean, they had to wait a while
but they’re having a good time this year.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 3:37 PM EDT
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Franklin
Your slider still sucks, and you got away with a reallll shitty one there. Just so you know.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:38 PM EDT
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Every time the Cards get to 14 over .500
run into a wall (or Volquez). I seriously think the time they get to 15 over is the time they go on a run. If that ever happens.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
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There's still a chance
5 games against the Pirates and braves could get us to 15 over.
mil, astros, houston, marlins, then cubs could get us back to 10 over though.
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
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-houston + arizona
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
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Well...after 2 weeks of not gaining any ground against the Cubs or Crew & finally
getting to 2 back in the WC, they have a performance like today against a horrible team that you should beat regardless of Volquez’ outing. But, hey, they won the series yesterday, so Tony’s happy. This is a part of the schedule that they HAVE to & should take advantage of & this Red’s lineup puts up @ least a 6 spot on em & its not over yet.
I guess a guy can only hope that the Crew loses later today & it will be a wash.
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Aug 17, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
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Time for a seven run inning
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
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I blame this game on gdm426.
If the score holds won’t he be like 0-26 in games he’s seen?
by mattisnotfrench on
Aug 17, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
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we are coming back yo
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
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2 out seven run rally
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:43 PM EDT
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Santa time
keep the rally going baby
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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At least I'm watching Groundhog Day during this crap
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 3:46 PM EDT
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such a fitting movie
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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Heh
Didn’t think of it that way. At least it’s toward the end, so maybe we’re about to get out of the rut.
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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so far so good with the two out rally
come on fellow posters, help me out
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Aug 17, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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MLBrumors.com
Thinks Uggla will be shopped during the offseason. I doubt we’d want to give up “enough” to get him, but would we want him if we could? His defense is bad, but is it something Oquendo could improve?
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Aug 17, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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I like orlando hudson
and all he would take is money.
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Aug 17, 2008 3:50 PM EDT
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how long is he controlled? he still has a couple three years doesn’t he?
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by AdjustedExpectations on
Aug 17, 2008 3:52 PM EDT
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lol wow
the cubs put a 8 spot up in the seventh
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:52 PM EDT
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You know, there needs to be a statistical metric
that can quantify players with awful ‘looking’ swings. I mean, ones that look like they have no chance of ever touching the ball.
Example: Kennedy, Adam.
I’ll never understand how he even makes contact. His bat looks like it goes straight up in the air and the ball is coming in straight. So, the bat is literally in the plane of the ball at only 1 moment. It is rather quite amazing.
Is there a worse looking swing in baseball?
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Aug 17, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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Well, since the bat has width, it's not really a plane
Same for the ball. It’s more like two rectangles that are at weird angles to each other. Your point is still pretty valid though.
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by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
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I mean, most 'bad' hitters
atleast have their bat go through the strikezone towards the pitcher. This somewhat increases their chances of the bat contacting the ball at multiple points, even if it isn’t a direct hit.
Kennedy’s swing, however, looks like a toddler swinging a plastic bat. He hacks straight up at it. It makes it seem as if the only time it could actually hit the ball is the precise moment that the bat and the ball intersect at 1 random point over the plate.
There are weird stances, violent swings, pitchers who simply can’t hit. But I’ve never seen a hitter whose actual swing is so bizarre. Results dictate playing time, I guess, but I can’t understand how he made it to this level of professionals baseball with that swing. And I still can’t believe David Eckstein and Adam Kennedy’s agent talked Walt into signing this guy long term.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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Agreed
It looks like at least a 45 degree angle, and he doesn’t have enough strength/power for that swing to be effective. He has to hit it almost perfect to get any decent contact on it.
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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from a position player?
I am not so sure that Piniero’s doesn’t look better than AK’s every now and then.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Aug 17, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
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uhh, can't think of one.
I hated duncan’s swing a lot, but his is still probably better.
by TheBirds on
Aug 17, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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Also, Craig Counsell's swing just annoys me
but he’s still not as bad.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
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good job Franklin
what a stud
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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wow
we actually scored a run!
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
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Aug 17, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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And gave it right back
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
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but franklin gave it back so it is cool
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
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ak could have cut in half with a single
so does he still have good numbers vs. volquez?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
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Aug 17, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
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actually he hit two line drives against Volquez, 1 was a single
the other one was a hit robbed by Valentine
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Aug 17, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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Speaking of Valentin
When did he get so fat?
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Aug 17, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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i'm with hl on this one
how does ak ever hit a line drive against anybody with that swing?
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Aug 17, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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Wasn't that against
Stormy Weathers?
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Aug 17, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
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the k with 2 on, yes
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by sportsman on
Aug 17, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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Ugh
Franklin’s signed for next year too. They better not excercise his 2010 option.
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
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Aug 17, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
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Run Molina
no excuse
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Aug 17, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
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Man, 2 singles with runners at 2nd and 3rd in this game
and the score is 7-5 (atleast) with 2 on and no outs in the 9th.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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lots of missed opportunities
Really wish the BP wouldn’t have let this one get out of hand too.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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Ok, so now it's 7-2
and then we need 2 more runners and a GS.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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Ankiel has to bat with no one getting out
and then hit a GS, please.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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need something
scoring only 2 runs in that ballpark is inexcusable, no matter who pitches
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Aug 17, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
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If it happens & you EVER leave this forum again...
and Apu gets himself out
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Aug 17, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Do they have Denny Graves in the pen?
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by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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Glad it's not a HR
I know it’s odd, but a double for some reason is better psychologically for keeping a rally going.
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Hrabosky said the same thing
“He hit’s it out and you gotta start all over again.”
I disagree with the whole, homers-as-rally-killers thing, as does Fernando Tatis.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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He hits it out, you're only down by 2
Right now, we’re still down by 4
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This one still has some life
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Aug 17, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
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If Pujols walks
Ankiel and Glaus will come up with chances to tie it.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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Going on contact
down 4? Really Skip?
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does not matter
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Aug 17, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Might that have been a DP
if he hadn’t gone there?
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Aug 17, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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do not think so
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by ANDYAK47 on
Aug 17, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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How
there were runners at 2nd and 3rd, right?
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yeah
skip on third after luds double
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Aug 17, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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stupid play by encarnacion
i hope they pay for it
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by sportsman on
Aug 17, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Need another runner
get on base Ank!
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3-0
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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Just get the tying run to the plate
give me one AB of excitement.
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Take a walk baby
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by Mr Redbird on
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crap
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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3-0 on Pujols and Ankiel
and both end up swinging at ball 4.
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that was ridiculous
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
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story of the day
pretty much
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Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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Which one was ball 4 to Albert
The 3-0? I’m going by gameday, so that’s what it looks like to me.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:17 PM EDT
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The one he hit
and pulled looked like Ball 4.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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Actually, going back and looking at it
it appears that Strike 1 was high for Ball 4 but Strike 2 was probably a strike.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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You expect it from ANK, but why would Apu even think of swinging on 3-0 there, even though he
should be able to. He has to quit pressing so much, hes getting himself out ALOT the last 2 months
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Aug 17, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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another 9th inning k by rick
swinging at ball 4
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Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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and ball 5
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Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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awful at bats
what the hell, you mean nothing. take the fracking walk
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Aug 17, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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seriously, the guy was not throwing strikes
he was handing the game to us. What the hell are our batters doing. Such stupid stupid baseball
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Aug 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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Seriously
We need a late innings “clutch” replacement for Rick. Mather when it’s a righty starter on the day, Skip when it’s a lefty starter.
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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I agree, or we need to just have a manager who isn't afraid to give the take sign.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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OPS by innings
7th: .627
8th: .742
9th: .346(!)
extras: .200 (!!!!!!!!!)
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Aug 17, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Then look at this one
1-3: 1.128
4-6: .980
7-9: .583
extras: .200
Only 10 PAs in extras, but that decline is not a good sign
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Aug 17, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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yeah, late inning game on the line, I PH for ankiel
that’s why I wouldn’t last as a manager in the bigs, everyone would hate me.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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I wouldn't do it everytime
But I wouldn’t let him keep going out there to put up that line
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Aug 17, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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Ankiel is struggling right now.
Since getting injured, his HR is the only XBH he has. The Catch-22 is that he needs to play to get back in a groove, but he may still be injured, thus giving away ABs.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Supposedly it didn't affect him while hitting.
I think it’s just a combination or rust/slumping.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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1-0 Dodgers
Kemp homers on 1st pitch.
Manny ropes one into the OF.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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go dodgers
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Aug 17, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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Braun misplays a ball
double for Loney, still only 1 out. Soup may put this one in the bag earlier tonight.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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Whatever
it pisses me off so much. These guys are trying to tie the game when they cannot.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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Well, collectively we sucked as a team all in all today.
Lohse was decent, but did have control issues and really ramped his pitch count. We had scoring chances a few innings and did nothing. Almost everyone was at fault today, from Pu to Iz. Garcia left a fastball right in Phillips wheelhouse, Franklin did his norm.
Would rather lose one like that then to lose one where we’re winning at the close of the 8th. Something we’ve done a lot.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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hopefully LaRussa will chew them out
but he’ll probably just pat them on the back for trying to mount a comeback.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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You know,
I have always been the kind of guy that prefers when guys take a lot of pitches and work the count and pick and choose times to be aggressive. I am this way because I think it leads to getting to the bullpen early
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Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
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I think there is a time and place for it.
Today in Cincy was they time and place. None of the Reds’ pitchers had good command.
I also think that some days if all you do is take you’ll get the starter out after the 6th but then you’ll have 0 runs.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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also
when a guy has as good stuff as Volquez you have to make him throw pitches. Because he is the kind of guy that usually has 100 pitches by the 6th
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Aug 17, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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Well, bounce back tommorrow guys
I really thought after the double by Ludwick and the way the Francisco Cordero was throwing that we were going to come back. But just terrible at bats by Pujols and Ankiel
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Aug 17, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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both of them have stupid tendencies to swing 3-0
boo cubs, hooray beer
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Aug 17, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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As frustrating as today was
Pu for the career : 1.572 OPS with over .700 SLG. In 498 PA he’s walked 368
Ank for the career : 43 PA walked 29 times, over ..571 SLG with an OPS over 1.3
I don’t know if I would say tendencies. Ank for sure walks quite a bit, and when Pu swings, ball tends to go boom.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
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Your OPS is going to naturally be really high on 3-0 results
Because of all the walks
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by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 5:18 PM EDT
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I bet you 1 billion real dollars
we don’t lose tomorrow.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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yeah, i know, cus we have a day off
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Aug 17, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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Well, let's hope the Dodgers can hold on and win this time
so atleast we’ll stay only 2 back
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Aug 17, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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Kershaw Strikes out Weeks with the bases loaded.
This guy’s starts are always the same. Gets into jams early and gets out of them.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Hope so after the way the homeplate ump almost put the screws to the Dodger pitcher in the 2nd
but he got out of it
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Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Ahh Tony
you look foolish when you talk like that.
" I have no comment about Volquez"
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
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Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
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Stupid Duncan
He is saying he does not want both Carpenter and Wainwright in the rotation at the same time. That is like saying. “I do not feel like having the best situation we can have to win.” What the hell
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Aug 17, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
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The brewers should move Sheets are Sabathia to the BP.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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Eh
I just pictured someone saying it with an Irish or Scottish accent
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by Mr Redbird on
Aug 17, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
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Did they really say that?
Why can’t we have our two best starters in the rotation at the same time?
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Aug 17, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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listen everytime I call for the firing of TLR there is an outcry
and then more sound bites emerge.
Don’t give me the “This team wouldn’t be where it is without tlr junk”, this team has plenty of talent on the field.
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Those wouldn't be the people
that never question anything LaRussa ever does, would they?
Don’t sweat them, it’s not worth it. You have your own opinion, they borrow theirs.
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I like Dunc
but i’m ready for the Dunc and TLR era of Cardinals baseball to end.
boo cubs, hooray beer
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Aug 17, 2008 5:33 PM EDT
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Brewers have a real tough august schedule
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Aug 17, 2008 4:48 PM EDT
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so they can ill-afford to have 2 aces in their rotation.
Better convert one to a reliever quickly.
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Aug 17, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
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I just dont get this team sometimes
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Aug 17, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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I mean September
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Aww.....the TLR and Duncan bashing.....
Wouldn’t be a game thread without it.
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For the people who have been able to watch most games
Do you notice anything different that Lohse is doing that’s making him less effective than he was earler in the year? Granted, he did have a quality start today (by the very minimum), but he was upwards of 120 pitches in six innings. In his last five starts (coming into today) he’s put up a line of:
5 GS
1 W
3 L
29.2 IP
21 ER
36 H
5 BB
25 K
6 HR
6.37 ERA
.300/.325/.550/.875 against
His ERA+ has fallen to 108 (before today) so he’s barely an above league-average pitcher anymore. Hardly a top-of-the-rotation guy. The 1.52 BB/9, 10.92 H/9, and 7.58 K/9 tell me he’s not having major control issues. His WHIP over that time is 1.38, which is .10 higher than his season numbers so far, or in other words, an extra hit or walk per ten innings. The 6 HR in 5 starts is a bit unnerving. What is it that is making him not be the pitcher he was earlier this season?
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lohse
simply ain’t THAT good. he’s not an un-hittable guy. doesn’t k enough people. he skated by the 1st half. there’s a reason he’s league-average.
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Aug 17, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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He has not located his fastball in the last few starts
like the way he was earlier this year. Of course, not very many pitchers in the entire league can paint the black consistently like the way the he was, so it’s not too surprising he’s fallen back into reality.
Even with the rest belated, everything is antiquated
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Are you writing from the heart?
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Aug 17, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
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Many thanks
Just what I was looking for
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Mother F-ing Ryan Braun - Dodgers blow 5-1 lead in the 9th
Wonder why Torre didn’t go to Broxton when it turned 5-3? Bastard brew crew DAMN!
Silver lining – Vin Scully listening into the 9th and, perhaps, beyond.
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Aug 17, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
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Braun has out-douched himself...
with the bat flip behind the back. What a jackass…
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Aug 17, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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I could've hit that hanging curve out
at least the douche is out of the game for defensive purposes
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Aug 17, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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As much as I dislike the Cubs...
I would rather see them get it done before Milwaukee. They are 100% classless…
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Aug 17, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
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Unforutunately, games like this....
…make Milwaukee appear (to themselves anyway) ‘destined’….
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Aug 17, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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Thank god
Dodgers win in walk off HR
All is forgotton
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Aug 17, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Should have won last night
had 2 chances to do it (9th and 10th) and couldn’t get a clean basehit.
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Aug 17, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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your back!!!???
great news – welcome back HCL…
Unfortunately, I watched last night’s game too. That was def. a winnable game for LA
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Aug 17, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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not to mention...
there were 2 outs and none on before milwaukee put together the go-ahead rally in the 10th…
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The Brewer comeback was helped alot by the fact that the 1st Dodger pitcher got hosed on a
strikeout to Kendall in the 9th w/one out…he painted the outside corner & didnt get the call & Mr. “I look like Tom Hanks from his ‘Philadelphia’ role” dribbled one up the middle to start the rally, then a double error by Loney the 1st basemen didnt help either. The rookie homeplate ump was pretty bad throughout for both sides from what I saw.
It was, fortunately, ALMOST a total meltdown…lucky for the Dodgers, they were @ home.
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i'm also glad
to see the return of the legend!
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makes one wonder
if we put izzy on waivers, would the dodgers pick him? chan ho, can’t believe he was pitching in that situation and i would think torre might want the veteran—certainly must pain him to watch chan ho not be mariano. the way izzy is going, i’m afraid 1) no one would sign and we get no picks or 2) he ends up not being even a B free agent and we get nothing even if he does sign. i wonder if they did put his name out there?
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Aug 17, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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The Mets bullpen is awful
hopefully we could get them to try to revive Generation K.
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mets are bad, true
but we are up against them for the wc much more so than LA. rather see him go west
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i am sorry
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
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