Game 126 Overflow
by the red baron on Aug 16, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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and, no grit points for
those with era’s higher than grit’s
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Is Jennie Finch not available?
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
Time to PR for Albert?
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Who plays first, since Duncan is out? Miles?
by Red in Chicago on Aug 16, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
the guy likes to play
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
so since its a blowout...
whats the perception of the Mario Williams vs. Reggie Bush debate up in the Midwest?
reggie just did his long jump hurdle over one of our DB's
and stared at him afterward. He’s probably bitter than his GF is a skank.
i think mario was
he is a beast. at best, reggie will only be a complimentary RB.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
another reason to let the bench players in
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I think I would wait another inning or so
before mailing it in. Remember the Pirates game.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 16, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Izzy'll pitch the next inning
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cubs down 2-1
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
is miles trying to play first base?
How are these hits 20 feet to the right of 2nd base getting through?
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
at least he dove, futilly
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
You know, Lopez at short hasn't looked that bad.
Do you think his fielding has suffered because of lack of effort? His hitting certainly has looked better, now that his head is in the game.
Range at short would seem to be especially prone to variation due to effort, or lack thereof.
flopy
hasn’t had his range challenged today. jury is still out
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
very, very out
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 16, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
Just wondering if he has the bad rep on defense because he simply wasn’t trying. I wonder what his defensive stats looked like in ’05?
that's what I'm wondering
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
well his FP is consistently 20 points below league average
if that tells you anything, which tells me he’s not good with the leather
Pro : Joel’s HR rate regressed a bit
Con : it was in a game that the HRs made no difference.
Phew
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 16, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions
er
Con: Joel’s HR rate regressed a bit*
Pro : it was in a game that the HRs made no difference.*
Too many franklins
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 16, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
why pull piniero here?
up by six, he’s at 81 pitches, why not try to get 7 or 8 out of him? he’s not exactly an injury risk, and our bullpen is overworked…
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
i was wondering
the same thing. i’ll be we get to see izzy for two and maybe franklin in the ninth.
beats the crap out of me
complain about the pen and then pull starters at 81 is puzzling to say the least
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
it's bad for piniero too
when his IP/G is figured, an extra 2IP in a game like this could make a difference. At least give him a chance to get in trouble.
Hope he’s not hurt.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
at least it burns a pitcher we
don’t care to see
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 16, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
good point
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
they should make him pitch longer
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
5.83 ERA
ouch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe we can get izzy
to 300 saves by using him in for three innings in blowouts…
oh, good point
though at this rate it won’t stay a blowout for long…
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
all things considered
that is the best solution
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I don't think you can
earn a save in a blowout, regardless of how many innings you pitch.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 16, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, the rule is:
Rule 10.20 in the Official Rule Book states:
Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions:
(1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and
(2) He is not the winning pitcher; and
(3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions:
- (a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or
- (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces; or
- (c ) He pitches effectively for at least three innings.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
that means
as long as he doesn’t relinquish the lead
Izzy is really bad
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Hairston will be key batter
Izzy’s out if he doesn’t get him
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Well,
if he’s getting one out, and then putting a couple of people on, I’d rather have a 7 run lead and it happen not in the 9th inning
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 16, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
he can't even seem to do the mop up
right
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
izzy needs more of that
swinging at ball 4
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
its hard to expect when he cant locate
add to that the loss in velocity and you have a mountain no one can climb
he is throwing almost exclusively
breaking pitches
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Just against the lefties.
In all fairness, if Young Pitcher or McClellan had done just what Izzy had done, we wouldn’t be criticizing him like we are Izzy.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 16, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
15 sliders/curves, 6 FB/cutters
according to GameDay
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i think izzy has ben sliding for the last several years.
injuries aside, he has had an inordinately high number of baserunners in many situations. though he got out of many of those situations, i think it reflected a gradual loss of faith in his pitches. basically walking the tightrope and finally fell off. i seriously doubt he can get back up on the rope.
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
bases loaded for the cubs and lee is up
two down
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Lindstrom is in for the Marlins
you know one of their guys that throws 100 mph
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
holy cow
FSN Ohio was playing Therion in the background of that highlight segment.
I don’t think that has ever happened before.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
why is albert still in this game with a day
game tomorrow?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
He may be replaced at first now
that Mather is in.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 16, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Rams win more than 3 games this year, i'd be shocked
What a truly awful looking football team. I realize it’s pre-season, but I mean, they just look terrible.
boo cubs, hooray beer
are they going to be even worse than the Bears?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm being picky
but why was Albert not pinch run for after being hit on the foot ?…
and why didn’t Glaus run hard to first on that grounder DP ?
APu is made of titanium
cuz it’s 9-3 I guess
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
that's a reply to tewk
if you haven’t guessed
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
for the record
I HATE using springer in a 9-3 game.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
don't make too much sense
so who all is in the bullpen now? mcclellen, perez, springer, izzy, franklin, garcia… anyone else besides Thompson?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
we could have used franklin instead imo
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
it must just be his day to throw
It is not a high leverage situation so it should be no problem
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
with our SP not being able to go deep consistently
i dont think TLR can take any liberties with the pen
+1
agree 100%
and why izzy for only one inning?
it seems thompson is the only one in the pen that’s strong enough to pitch more than one inning at a time.
no wonder they are worn out when so many warmup and pitch every night
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
this I do agree with
Tony has been bad at managing the bullpen this year
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
problem is carrying too many damn MIF's
we could have Motte or somebody that you know might help our team on the roster right now
not just too many
too many 2nd basemen
iz2 is only real ss, rest need to be at second or dh, which we ain’t got
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
flopy
didn’t look too good on that one
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
seriously there has to be a better nickname
what will happen when other fans start reading our boards and learn we have aplayer named floppy?
that flopy as in "flow-pee"
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
we'll see if he can work his into a more macho nickname
it’s up to him
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Pez
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
best bobblehead evar!
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
well some like young pitcher for perez
but i like “the prez”
so pez won’t be the i pick
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
we've been calling Perez
Overlord
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
like that too
young pitcher too vague and ambiguous, just too many young pitchers and you’d have to change it later anyway
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
i like that though
there should always be a Young Pitcher on the team. Even if you’re 40 and just getting your break, the newest guy up should be it.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
you are bowing down when you say that, right?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 16, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
maybe we could go with a theme of Perez as the Emperor and McClellan as Darth Vader… or maybe it’s more fitting the other way around.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i believe your hopes are dashed
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
who are you
and what have you done to the real Raconteur?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 16, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
all-star starter fukudome down to a .764 OPS
before going 1-3 with a single tonight… cubs fans are gonna be loving that contract this time next year ;)
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
I'm changing my signature
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .270 .370 .395
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .362 .417
this game calls for a celebratory lager
mmm, beer
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
don't go tempting the gods of baseball
and by the way, how did your art show go?
boo cubs, hooray beer
it went pretty good
decent turnout, but it didn’t appear that our fliers had a huge effect. mostly just some friends showed up. we sold a few pieces, and I had a friend offer to buy 2 paintings if they don’t sell (I’m going to give them to her buy one get one free, it will cover my costs at least). that said, we’ll be open another 2 weeks
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
my sister lives in NOLA and
they have art in all their local restaurants – its apparently a way to make a decent living
yeah
I think that’s the best market for art these days is selling to restaurants. I think if I find the time (and marketing materials) I will try to get restaurants to buy. either that or do huge pieces to hang in offices
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
what i was talking about was local artists
displaying their art on the walls of local businesses for sale. I guess they pay a commission to the restaurant if it sells.
oh yeah
there’s a few places here in chicago that do that too. it all depends though on if the restaurant likes your artwork obviously.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
if you're talking about in a non-business sense
the 2 girls I wanted to come didn’t show up (one didn’t find it, the other has disappeared), and a few people that I expected to visit didn’t come (although they’ll be there next saturday). the other 3 artists have amazing work, one an illustrator, one who does surrealism and is just amazing (Jolan Emamali), and this girl who did large photographs. I put in abstract paintings as well as digital imaging stuff printed onto canvas (which showed up at the last minute). by the end of the night I was absolutely plastered on champagne, wine and high life, hence why I just started drinking now.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Marlin's are 3 outs away
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
springer gone
the viilan is in
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
And giving up the customary long ball.
Foul, fortunately.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 16, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
No more screwed up than Villone.
A second long ball; double to right-center that could have gone.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 16, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The Reds announcers sound like they're mailing it in.
Not just the team — the announcers.
the villan
didn’t fool anybody. good for him to get a couple days off
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
All over, ho hum.
Final out on a nice play by Glaus.
Can those of us on GD
get a replay from someone?
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All quiet at the end.
Cards went 1-2-3 in the top of the 9th, then brought in Villone. He gave up a double to Jolbert Cabrera, got the other three guys. The last out was a liner to Glaus. All very routine stuff, and the Reds announcers did it all sotto voce, almost.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 16, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
good win!
let’s sweep em!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
good one!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That was nice.
Gregg got the save, finishing with a called third strike. Maybe the Cubs karma is finally starting to even out.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 16, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Gregg got his manhood
back after giving it up to the Cubs last night.
by cardsgirl95 on Aug 16, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
good night all
until noon…
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
Why is the MIL/LA game
using the FSN Wisconsin feed on MLB.tv? That means no Vin Scully. :(
bummer
scully rules…but i like the uke too
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 16, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
it's on local LA TV, KCAL channel 9
and they dont allow EI or MLB TV to show their feeds. just like KSDK channel 5 does in the STL.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Really?
Because I know I have seen KCAL on MLB.tv before, but it was during Spring Training.
by cardsgirl95 on Aug 16, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i did not know that
i just know when i asked DTV EI & MLB about it last year thats what they told me. there was a Cardinals game vs LA & it wasn’t on EI, so earlier in the week i sent off some emails & both DTV & MLB said KCAL & KSDK had not given MLB the right to broadcast their games. since neither one is on the package this year i assume that was still the case.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
KSDK
has been the feed on MLB.tv this year. But I live outside of the St. Louis market. Does that make a difference? I thought we all got the same feed on MLB.tv.
by cardsgirl95 on Aug 16, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
not on DTV EI
on Sunday afternoons, which is when KSDK has all of their games, we have only gotten the other teams feed. thanks for the heads up, DTV & MLB are getting some more emails.
i live in ohio. so i try to watch only the Cardinals side of the broadcast. i’m weird like that.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
OK, i am officially going to the game tomorrow
sadly, i cannot take a sign because i’ll be in box seats & they dont allow them. but i might take a note book & a marker & see what happens.
look for us when a lefty is up, our seats will be over his left shoulder between the plate & the Reds dugout in the second row. i’ll be in a blue away game Cards hate & blue Oakley’s. and maybe a white Cardinals T-Shirt. i’m pretty pumped except we get to face Volquez. hopefully Lohse gets his grove back.
i’ve never seen a Cardinals victory. i’ve been to about 20 games, most of them in the 80’s & early 90’s & they’ve lost every single time. here’s hoping my luck will change. if they lose tomorrow, it’s probably all on me. so i apologize to every one in advance. i’ll take a ton of pics & put them up on here & my own site as well.
great win tonight. i didn’t get to see the O go off, but i did see the last two innings. here’s hoping they get the sweep tomorrow.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Here's to a change in your luck.
It will be a tough job against Edinson.
by cardsgirl95 on Aug 16, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yuck
that would be very disheartening..going to bp?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 16, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i just checked, i'm 0-25
talk about bad freaking luck. sheesh.
i wasn’t planning on going to BP. dont the Cardinals not take BP when it’s a day game on a get away day? if they are taking it i might show up earlier. its going to take 1 1/2 to get there, so i was planning on getting to the parking garage around noon. there’s a parade going on down there too so some streets are closed. so my “normal” route has been changed. my brother is going with, we are sitting in his buddy’s family’s seats, and he’s not a morning person, so i’m going to have to beat & drag him just to get him up.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
dunno
i have never been to a cards game away from bush..they come to seattle next yr im getting tickets..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 17, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I got there early tonight and got to see the Cards take BP
Albert hit a couple of balls over the fence, as did Glaus and Shu…..it was kind of a preview of what was to come in the game!! I had a great time and got to see a Cardinal win I hope you do as well tomorrow…have fun!!
Moring from the city of klongs . . .Sounds like a good time for the good guys! Way to pull them through . .. .Who goes tomorrow? Lohse?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Kuo
gives it up for LAD..3-2 bottom 8th gagne in..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
12 pitch inning for gagne
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 17, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
kent and manny
lets go..you are ina pennant race right and zona won come on guys..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
torres..54 app
alot
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
already happened
kent batting 3-1
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 17, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
The runner was going and Hardy was trying to make a great play instead of just getting an out.
finally a team not getting the bounces
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Also I love players like Blake
who swing at boarderline pitches after the pitcher has just thrown 5 straight balls. with the bases loaded I might add
Just got back from the game!!
I am thrilled to see Albert go deep twice!! It was homerun derby there with Shu, Ludwick & Albert. Even the Reds hit a couple of dingers. This was my first and probably only game I will get to go to this season…but it was a great one!! It was a pretty good crowd for the Reds although I would say about 35-40% of the fans there were Cardinal fans. I saw A TON of people wearing Cards shirts and hats. But the good thing is Cincy is a great town and has great fans that are nice and they don’t give you crap for wearing Cardinal gear. Good night indeed!!
I hope we can take the game tomorrow for the sweep.
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