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Good morning, esteemed members of the Viva el Birdos community. Does the day find you well? I certainly hope it does.

First off, I have to get something off my chest. I was wrong about Felipe Lopez.

Man, that hurt. Anyway, I was very down on the pickup at the time, as I saw absolutely no real role for him on the team. He doesn't hit any better than any of our other weak ass middle infielders, and his defense is a significant downgrade compared to the guys we have, I said. When he got here and began his Cardinal career by taking at bats away from Joe Mather in the outfield, my worst fears were confirmed. We brought in yet another utility player for Tony to give ABs to over more talented, better options.

Well, turns out that those who lauded the move as just the kind of change of scenery pickup that could do a player some real good were at least partially right. Lopez has hit very well since he's been here, providing a nice spark for the offense. Don't get me wrong, he's still not an All Star in my estimation, but he's been a solid pickup, considering that it cost virtually nothing to bring him in.

Lopez still shouldn't be taking at bats away from any of our outfielders, all of whom have much, much more to offer than Lopez. He also shouldn't be playing shortstop much, as his glove work just can't compare to Cesar over there. I do, however, like seeing Lopez in the lineup at second base. He offers better offensive upside than either Adam Kennedy or even, to my mind, Aaron Miles, and his glove plays better on the right side than it does on the left.

The one thing that's still a little frustrating about the whole Lopez deal, though, is that we now essentially have three second basemen on the roster. Lopez makes a little better utility infielder than the other two, obviously, but putting him at second is really the best use of his talents. Unfortunately, the Cardinals are overloaded with guys who shouldn't really play positions other than second very often, if at all. Still, on balance, it was a low risk pickup of a guy who, at the very least, is significantly more gifted offensively than the rest of our middle infield corps. And losing Brendan Ryan obviously isn't a huge problem; in fact, it's not really even a consideration.

Moving on.

First off, Michael Phelps is really good. I know that isn't really news, but I just thought I would add to the chorus. I always enjoy watching the Olympics, and this one has been truly special, mostly due to Phelps' record pursuit. If you haven't been watching, you've missed one of the most amazing sporting events of our time.

Second, Cliff Lee is also really good. He won again last night, running his record to 17-2. Last night, he shut down the best team in baseball, the Angels, to the tune of a complete game, with two runs allowed on eight hits, two walks, and six strikeouts. Remember back during the offseason, when there were some rumours floating around that the Indians might be looking to move Lee, possibly for something along the lines of our very own pitching enigma, Anthony Reyes, plus maybe a mid level relief prospect? Oh, if only we could go back and make that happen... Hell, the Indians ended up getting Reyes anyway. You know, while I was watching both the Cleveland game and our own contest last night, I realised that Jaime Garcia actually reminds me quite a bit of Lee. Very similar deliveries, with high arm slots and a tendency to throw the ball with the hand on the outside of it a bit, creating some cutting action. Similar velocity, similar breaking balls. If you get a chance, look at the two of them side by side and see if you agree with me. I would link to Pitching Clips, but it's been down for a couple of months now, it seems. I'm not sure what sort of problems the guys over there are having, but I miss having one of my favourite resources. (And favourite time wasters, to be perfectly frank.)

Speaking of Reyes, I'm not going to bring him up here. That debate has been pretty well covered 'round these parts, and I'm not looking to get everyone up in arms at this early hour. I will, however, direct anyone who happens to be interested to my new weekly feature over at the Rundown, the Anthony Reyes Watch. Whether you fall on the Duncan side or the Reyes side of the Great Debate, come on over and check out what our very own Prodigal Son is doing. You can leave me comments, too, even if they're really, really unpleasant. Google Analytics has no idea if you hate me or not.

Alright, enough whoring. Onward and upward.

I have, not one, but two record recommendations for you guys this morning! I know you're all very excited; I can feel it in the air. (Insert Phil Collins music and star wipes here.) Dr. Dog, one of my absolute favourite bands in the world, has a new record out called Fate. If you're not familiar (and I have every reason to think you are not), Dr. Dog are a Philadelphia band that have a little bit of ELO in them, if ELO didn't suck. (I shouldn't say that; I actually like ELO, but it's such a good line I just can't resist.) Anyhow, check them out over at iTunes or something; you can thank me later. If nothing else, support them just for the fact that they still do all their recording on analog tape. Now that's dedication, and that devotion comes through.

Second recommendation: quite possibly the best band in the city of St. Louis right now, Gentlemen Auction House, recently released their first full length, Alphabet Graveyard. GAH (love that abbrev., by the way), feel a bit like one of the current legions of (mostly) Canadian collective bands that have come to rule the indie rock roost the past few years. A little Arcade Fire/ Broken Social Scene/ Wolf Parade thing going on. I've been a fan of these guys since they put out their very first EP several years ago, and they're finally starting to attract a little real attention. Try it, you'll like it.

That's better; whoring by proxy.

By the way, speaking of analog tape, did everyone here (or anyone here), know that the Large Hadron Collider over in Europe is going to be recording all of its data on magnetic tape? Apparently, CERN (the body that governs experimental atomic stuff, apparently), has decided that's the most cost effective and safe way to store miles and miles worth of numeric data. Who knew? As a fan of pretty much any kind of dead end technology (you guys want to come over and watch my copy of Army of Darkness on Laserdisc? I've got Akira, too!), I cannot tell you how excited I was to read this little tidbit.

It became official yesterday; the Cardinals lost out on the Yorman Rodriguez sweepstakes, as he signed with the Reds. If you don't follow the international signing market much, Rodriguez was one of the top talents available in this year's crop. He's Venezuelan, and a true five tool outfield prospect, drawing some comparisons to Carlos Beltran. There are some questions about whether he'll hit enough in pro ball, but all the raw tools are there. I have to say, I'm really, really disappointed to see this. I'm not sure how close the Cardinals were on this one; by all reports, it was basically down to the Reds and the Cards, but it hurts to see this sort of thing happen. It's exciting to see the Cardinals apparently delving into the international markets to try and bring in talent, but still... It's tough not to be frustrated by the way that this franchise seems to be a bridesmaid pretty much every time they try and go get something. Sigh. Still, they were in it until the end, which is encouraging.

The Royals came to terms with Tim Melville yesterday. I understand there are concerns about his mechanics (I don't particularly share those concerns, but), but the Royals got one of the best high school arms in the entire draft in the fourth round. I have to count this as a failure of some sort by the Cardinals. When you have this kind of a talent living thirty miles from your stadium and he gets passed over so long, you have to bring a guy like that in. Very disappointing.

There was some confusion last night in the game thread about Chris Perez possibly throwing a sinker on a couple of different pitches. I was curious, too, after reading those comments, so I went to the Pitch f/x, found the pitches in question, and then went and watched the game again on the DVR.

As postulated by several people in the game thread at the time, the pitches that pitch f/x classified as sinkers were, in fact, sliders. The two in question both fooled the system due to the fact that they broke almost straight down, with very little lateral movement. One of the sliders in question was the very last pitch of the game; if you get a chance to see a replay, you'll see that the ball drops almost straight down while 'backing up', rather than cutting toward the first base side of the plate.

Interestingly (to me, anyway), Scott Olsen, the Marlins' lefty starter that we saw a couple of days ago, often has the same situation happen, with his slider being called either a sinker or, occasionally, a splitter. When Olsen's slider is really on, it features that same sort of straight down, split finger action that a couple of Perez's pitches had last night. Kinda cool, if you ask me.

While I'm on the subject of Young Pitcher (love that nickname), La Russa had some very nice comments about Perez in the postgame last night. For Perez and Garcia both, actually. I bring this up because Tony takes an awful lot of heat for the way he deals with young players from a lot of people, myself most definitely included. Most of the time, I feel that it's well deserved. But, if you're going to criticise, you should also be willing to give credit when and where it is due, and so I'm doing that now. Both of those pitchers performed beautifully in the game last night, and La Russa made sure to acknowledge those performances.

You know, I actually had an actual big discussion topic for this morning, but looking at this this, it's awfully long already. (can I get a TWSS?) I think I'll just save it for another day.

Hope that you all enjoy your Saturday. I'll be along later with a game thread.

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Love the development of the youngsters

Do we really think Garcia might be ready for the rotation next spring?

by sdrone on Aug 16, 2008 9:53 AM EDT   0 recs

Either him or McClellan, but

during the game last night Danny Mac mentioned that the organization is split on whehter or not to move McClellan to the rotation. Some people believe he’s a perfect set up guy because he’s so effective against lefties and want to see him remain there.

Garcia looked great last night, and if he keeps pitching like this, it would be criminal to not let him at least compete for a spot in the rotation next spring.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on Aug 16, 2008 10:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How old is K-Mac?

I’m torn too. He has the pure “stuff” to possibly developt into a top of the rotation starter. But he also has the makeup to be a good setup man, and taking him out of our pen immediately makes it significantly worse.

Assuming he’s okay with it, I’d probably leave him in the pen.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 16, 2008 10:27 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

K-Mac is 24

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 16, 2008 11:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You're probably not surprised

I’d bet part of that split depends on whether or not Josh Kinney and Tyler Johnson can actually play ball next spring.

by sdrone on Aug 16, 2008 10:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, yet more injured pitchers

This song is getting old. Although either Johnson or Kinney should be a September call up, according to the PD from yesterday, I think it was.

And Mulder adnd Clement would be ready by opening day, with Carp at the All Star break.

Sorry if my frustration over the health of so many important pieces to the rotation boils over, but I’m SICK of all the health problems with this pitching staff…no pun intended.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on Aug 16, 2008 3:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It was Kinney

and I think it was more him wishing to be a September call-up than it being an actual possibility.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 16, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kinney and Johnson..

Both were amazing in the ‘06 playoffs, but sadly I’m not sure if either will ever have that kind of success again. I just don’t trust the medical staff and have seen nothing to suggest that I should. Is this why Pujols doesn’t want to go under the knife? I doubt it. But anyways, how about those 16 innings from Carp, Mulder, and Clement?!

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 16, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Carp, I understand...

He actually came back close to when they thought he would. I’m not too concerned with his latest setback, but with the track record of the Cardinals and injuries lately, if Carp’s deal balloons into another surgery I wouldn’t be surprised, either. Like you, I have little faith in Dr Paletta and his apparent medical hobby shop.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on Aug 16, 2008 3:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I feel ya MCF

Sometimes I think the Cardinals should just get Baghdad Bob to give their player health updates… :-)

"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle

by iron duke75 on Aug 16, 2008 6:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

blast from the past. who’s their pharmacist? chemical ali? sorry, that was in poor taste.

by spencegrif on Aug 16, 2008 6:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You wonder

if TLR might be thinking about reliever usage during the 1950s and 1960s, when the best reliever on the team wasn’t the “closer” but rather the “fireman” — the guy brought in when the game was on the line in the mid-to-late innings, two on, two out, that kind of thing. There has been a school of thought for some time in the more analytical baseball circles that that’s where the top bullpen arms provide the greatest leverage, not starting the 9th when the threat of immediate catastrophe is less. K-Mac has both the stuff and the mindset for that role, and TLR’s vaunted creativity includes willingness to study baseball history and learn from it.

I agree about Garcia, though. He looks like a solid #3 starter in the making.

by StanTheManFan on Aug 16, 2008 11:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

springer is the fireman now and has proved valuable in that role. problem is his elbow is a nagging issue that keeps form pitching more than a few pitches every 3 days or so. more frequent and his effectiveness really drops off. to me, you gotta have such a guy among active guys its either mac or motte. the “prez” gotta close next year.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 16, 2008 12:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's also the school of thought on Carlos Marmol

although I’m not convinced he’s a better reliever than Kerry Wood. Nevertheless, same situation and there’s some comfort in knowing you have a “Holy shit, get us out of here” guy. That’s how guys like Goose Gossage were used. He used to pitch 2 maybe 3 innings a game. Now guys come in in the 9th with no runners on and a 3 run lead and get a save. Goose was a stud.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 16, 2008 12:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ELO Suck?

Never! Never! Never! Remember, George Harrison, Roy Orbison, Bob Dylan, and Tom Petty thought that Jeff Lynne was good enough to add him to the Wilburys. Good enough for me.

by Iowa on Aug 16, 2008 10:05 AM EDT   0 recs

Music

Whenever music comes up on a baseball site, it immediately alienates me, reminding me that, as much as I may enjoy what the players do on the field and bloggers do online, I would not enjoy hanging out with, say, Jim Edmonds long enough to have to listen to Kenny Chesney, or Matt Leach once the conversation approached Pearljam, or REO Speedwagon at the mysterious MLB studios, or Spiezio and his band, or Reyes and his friends. I like these people a lot better when they’re working, and don’t get to choose what they wear or what I hear.

But I hadn’t heard of GAH before this post, and I’m grateful for the opportunity to listen to them this morning.

by Don Zero on Aug 16, 2008 10:13 AM EDT   0 recs

Edmonds always said

that he listened to whatever his daughter put on his ipod. Heh.

by sdrone on Aug 16, 2008 10:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And not to toot my own horn.....

But I was definitely onboard with the Lopez signing. I saw little to no risk, and maybe, just maybe, I thought he could turn things around. Our bench was really missing a true super-sub type guy, and Lopez can fill that role. He also has some speed, which is something we don’t have much of. I love that we’ve been running a little more of late. Good way to steal some extra runs.

A sweep of the Reds would be just what the doctor ordered about now. I don’t see them scoring alot in any game, but we’re about to face a couple of decent arms. Gotta get some runs across when we can.

Posted this last night, but that was the first game where Garcia looked comfortable to me. He looked very solid, and “ready” for a rotation spot next year. Glad we didn’t move him for Fuentes. That would have been dumb.

Perez also looked great last night. If’n he’ll just throw strikes, he’ll be fine. He is going to get in trouble with the walks and the falling behind in the count.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 16, 2008 10:32 AM EDT   0 recs

If any fans anywhere are prepared to

live with a closer who “gets in trouble with the walks and falling behind in the count,” it’s us. Doesn’t that statment remind you of someone?

Given what TLR has been used to watching for the last few years, he really can’t complain when Perez puts a few guys on base.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Aug 16, 2008 11:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

better than expected for floppy

agreed and he would be a better utility bet than miles next year, except i think his contract t is literally 10x miles 500k. with ak on the books, floppy looks like a nice decision to finish the year, but won’t fit in long term financially

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 16, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was also immediately...

on board with the Lopez signing, even before it happened. He’s an upgrade offensively from Ryan, and it cost nothing to get him. The one thing I did say upon hearing about the signing was..“dear god, they better not let him play the outfield”.

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 16, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Giving Thompson some love

Im just here to say that Thompson pitched a great game last night. Going five innings and giving up 3 hits and 2 ER runs while striking out 4.

Just had to give him prompts snice apparently it was decided in the first inning last night that he wasn’t good enough for a major league roster spot for some reason.

by Evilfrog on Aug 16, 2008 10:59 AM EDT   0 recs

+1

This dude does nothing but when games when he starts. He doesn’t have great stuff, but it seems he never has the really bad outings. I like having him in that long-relief, emergency starter role. Couldn’t think of a better fit.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 16, 2008 11:01 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thompson.....very underapreciated

He is versitile and he can spot star, pitch long relief, normal relief, and pitch on short rest. He is the type of guy teams need.

by ICbirdfan on Aug 16, 2008 11:02 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm a fan

as if that was hard to figure out.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 16, 2008 12:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's exactly the kind of guy a team needs

He’s not ever going to be a stud, but his versatility and ability to fill whatever role is needed really helps out the team.

by birdo rojo on Aug 16, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if i get to go to the game tomorrow afternoon

look for a sign close to the reds dugout that says something along the lines of,

Brad Thompson, Kickin Puppies & takin names since 2007

he does pretty well for a kid that keeps getting jerked around from Memphis to the STL, from starter, reliever, mop up guy, etc. i was glad to read that Tony appreciates his efforts last night as well.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 16, 2008 4:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not so sure about Lopez

Since coming over to the Cardinals he has a higher K rate and lower BB rate than he had with WAS this year. His ISO is up some but his BABIP is a ridiculous .455. I think he’s probably the same guy he’s always been for the last 3 years.

http://firstinning.com/players/Felipe-Lopez-a/

by mikedallas45 on Aug 16, 2008 11:04 AM EDT   0 recs

It’s also 28 at-bats. Just for reference, Ryan Ludwick was at 233/258/267 after his first 30 at-bats with the Cardinals last year.

by greenback06 on Aug 16, 2008 11:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's what I'm saying though

Who is the real Felipe Lopez, the one from the last 2.5 seasons or the one from the last 2 weeks? I know which one I’m putting my money on.

by mikedallas45 on Aug 16, 2008 11:20 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I wish there was a way I could bet money in situations likes this.

by greenback06 on Aug 16, 2008 11:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly

30 PAs mean nothing. There is no reason to think that he is actually going to be an asset to this team. Switching positions now is blowing in the wind with popular opinion unless something that you’ve seen from a skillset levels appears to have changed.

by azruavatar on Aug 16, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I mostly agree

but I am somewhat encouraged that he looks more athletic than the rest of our MIs. Haven’t really had a chance to watch him play the infield much. As long as he doesn’t play the outfield I promise to keep my complaining to a minimum

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Aug 16, 2008 12:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sample size

These arguments are fine if you’re trying to predict long-term performance. But that’s not really the case here — they were looking for a short-term bump to help with a playoff push, and have gotten it so far. So let’s just be happy with that, and give Mo, Tony, and Perez credit for it.

Longer-term, my concern is that Mo has given Tony another shiny multi-position-playing toy that he’ll over-use. Lopez is fine on this team, but only if he takes AB’s from Kennedy and Miles, not if he gets them at the expense of outfielders who are better hitters. I guess the real problem is that you have two good defenders that only play one position don’t hit very well (Izturis and Kennedy), and you have two other guys who play multiple positions and (potentially) hit a little better, but are sub-par defenders everywhere (Miles and Lopez). That’s a bad mix, as it means we’re carrying too many middle infielders who are much worse hitters than available outfielders.

FWIW, current (and career) OPS+ for these guys are:
Kennedy 75 (87)
Miles 95 (76)
Izturis 69 (69)
Lopez 64, but 137 with STL (non sustainable!), and 87 career.

Defense is a bit trickier to judge, but there’s a pretty firm consensus on these guys. Izturis and Kennedy come out better than Lopez and Miles in both range factor and probabilistic model of range.

by apack on Aug 16, 2008 12:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Shiny Toy

That too is my concern. If Lopez can continue his hot streak for the rest of the season, he sure the hell BETTER be taking ABs away from the other MIFs. Maybe if he does end up going onto the roster next year (which I hope he doesn’t), the plus side could be a jettisoning of AK and Izturis. I still hope beyond hope that we end up with a real, everyday, offensively capable SS next season. That isn’t too much to ask for , is it?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 16, 2008 1:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I doubt the best prediction over the short-term is any different from the best prediction from the long-term. There’s just a lot more noise.

by greenback06 on Aug 16, 2008 1:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not certain

The noise is certainly there, and it definitely makes it difficult to evaluate short-term causality. But motivation and other psychological factors unquestionably play a role too. So, again, let’s just take the short-term empirical evidence of Lopez’s performance and be happy with that, but avoid thinking that this will continue long-term.

Medium-term (i.e., rest of this year), I do think Lopez has value for two reasons:

1. He can credibly back-up four positions (2B, SS, 3B, and LF). So this offers more flexibility. The main value here is really providing a better backup than Miles at 3B. Of course this flexibility is largely wasted if we keep three other MIF’s on the roster.

2. He has more power than any of the other MIF’s. Did you know that Lopez’s HR rate per 162 games is almost as much as Miles, Kennedy, and Izturis combined. That’s 13 for Lopez vs. 4 for Miles, 8 for AK, and 2 for Iz.

Lopez is also only 28, so not expected to decline precipitously. All-in-all, not a bad candidate for a moderate rebound from the terrible performance he put up in WAS. Not that he’ll be great, mind you, but OK.

by apack on Aug 16, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lopez is a SS in name only

much as Miles is. They don’t belong at that position more than 1 or 2 games a year.

by azruavatar on Aug 16, 2008 2:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There isn’t any short-term empirical evidence. There are various ways to phrase the praise for Lopez, but it all boils down to a rate stat over a period of time when a rate stat doesn’t tell us anything (yes, I hate rate stats). Versus Brendan Ryan or Joe Mather he’s added something like one or two runs on offense, and he may well have given away half that on defense.

by greenback06 on Aug 16, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That is true,

but let’s hope he saves his regression to the mean for another season and another team a la Abraham Nunez.

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Aug 16, 2008 1:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

so if he goes 0-for-the-rest of the season

then what do we say? “Well if only we’d cut bait after the first 30 PAs.” It’s great that he’s had a couple nice hits but it doesn’t make him an asset in my book.

by azruavatar on Aug 16, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

why are you so hard on this guy?

it reeks of bias to me

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

just thought I'd point out

his numbers with the cards are pretty much in line(slightly higher) with his road numbers this year….

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 16, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

more like 230

and the whole ’small sample size" thing has become a bit of a tired joke around here. We all get it.

The point is that he was horrible in Washington and was better than respectable everywhere else which is holding true.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 16, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's had 30 with the Cards though

How has “small sample size” become a tired joke around here? Just two nights ago, his OPS with the Cards was .699. Now it’s .900. Two nights from now, it could be back down to .699.

I really don’t think Lopez is as good as he’s been on the road this year, nor is he as bad as he was in Nationals Park. We can’t assume that he’s a .770 OPS guy just because he’s been freed from those confines. I hope he proves me wrong though.

by jdub176 on Aug 16, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

First of all, i wasn't making a bold prediction or anything

I was just pointing out that his hitting away from D.C. has continued. Nothing more, nothing less.

And the “sample size” thing is a tired joke because we all get it. The days are pretty much long gone when someone will make big proclamations without considering sample size. Plus, often you get the “Sample Size Alert!!!” disclaimer when anything is of a small sample. Heck, we often make jokes about small sample sizes.

If I had started my post (which wasn’t really all that serious in the first place, other than noting that a trend was continuing) with something about sample size, would that have prevented this discussion? Even though you, me and about 95% of the people here get it?

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 16, 2008 5:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

au contraire
Heck, we often make jokes about small sample sizes.

Someone on here the other night cited 13 PA’s as an adequate sample…I think Lopez was something like 5-13 against Anibal Sanchez, and whoever it was said it meant something.

by jdub176 on Aug 16, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sample size vs a specific pitcher or hitter

and sample size splits are 2 different things.

by rlgosnell on Aug 16, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

I was just citing an example of how people still haven’t caught on. That’s all.

And don’t get me wrong, I’ve been pleased with Lopez’s past few games. It’s refreshing to see some speed out there. Still, I don’t think he’s much of an upgrade over what we already have.

I’d also question the significance of his home/road split this year. He was bad on the road last year. His home numbers this year are especially bizarre…and the split wasn’t as pronounced last year (I think it was like .640 to .680, or something).

by jdub176 on Aug 16, 2008 5:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I had a

testicular exam the other day, and my doctor kept complaining about small sample size…

I’m sorry…

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by iron duke75 on Aug 16, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Terrible.

Just terrible!

by jdub176 on Aug 16, 2008 6:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

my gf

complains i have a small sample size…sigh. (example of a sample size joke)

by spencegrif on Aug 16, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

FWIW

Izturis is OPSing over 1.000 in his last 30 plate appearances.

by jdub176 on Aug 16, 2008 5:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks

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by Tackle Box on Aug 16, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Post-mortem equine sadism

Very nice… :-)

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by iron duke75 on Aug 16, 2008 6:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

my b-r page

says .357/.400/.500 with the Cards. He has never come close to those numbers since little leagu.

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Aug 16, 2008 5:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's not anything to do with Lopez

It’s the assessment of player based on 30PAs and stats that are outside their control that bother me. FLopez has a .455 BABIP. Yes he’s done well but should we laud him for good luck? And should even if we acknowledge that he’s produced the last few games (which I do) should we predict that moving forward? Probably not.

by azruavatar on Aug 16, 2008 6:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

cool

I was just thinking that you had something personal against him

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 16, 2008 6:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not to mention the cost

though somehow i don’t expect him to sign for a level anywhere close to his current contract

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by sportsman on Aug 18, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We'll see
Gust Avrakotos: There’s a little boy and on his 14th birthday he gets a horse… and everybody in the village says, “how wonderful. the boy got a horse” And the Zen master says, “we’ll see.” Two years later The boy falls off the horse, breaks his leg, and everyone in the village says, “how terrible.” And the Zen master says, “We’ll see.” Then, a war breaks out and all the young men have to go off and fight… except the boy can’t cause his legs all messed up. and everybody in the village says, “How wonderful.”
Charlie Wilson: Now the Zen master says, “We’ll see.”

by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 16, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Echo the accolades for Thompson

I’ve always liked him better as a starter and think that he could be a serviceable fifth man in the rotation for most teams. Never understood why he’s the first man sent back to Memphis when there’s a roster crunch.
As far as Felipe goes it’s at least something to do. Little down side as we just lose Ryan’s services till September. His ’05 stats are sure intriguing.

by easy on Aug 16, 2008 11:32 AM EDT