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Game 125 Open Thread: Cards vs Reds 6:10pm CDT

St. Louis Cardinals at Cincinnati Reds, Aug 15, 2008 7:10 PM EDT


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Thompson                 Arroyo

4.34, 4-2                5.44, 10-9

The Cardinals are facing a radically different Reds organization.  Gone are Adam Dunn (traded to Arizona) and Ken Griffey Jr. (traded to Chicago) from the outfield.  While the loss of Dunn's bat is certainly a blow to the offense, the defensive improvements that are almost sure to replace Dunn and Griffey will help the pitchers a great deal.  Over the course of the season, those two were probably 30 runs worse than average as corner outfielders defensively.

Bronso Arroyo has said that Dunn made it well known that he'll be looking for a $100M dollar contract this coming offseason. Baseball Prospectus makes it look like he's about a 4 win offensive player (per VORP) but given his egregious defense, I'm not sure he's worth what he's asking for.  That's not to say he isn't a great impact hitter but just glancing at the numbers, I don't think I'd pay him more than 12M a year and I wouldn't put him anywhere other 1B or DH.  Feel free to persuade me he's worth more or less. . .

Arroyo's had an off year as his FIP deteriorates further from it's high water mark in 2004 as a starter.  It's now at 4.68 and makes the 25M/2 year extension for 2009-2010 look pretty ugly.   They will basically be paying twice what we paid Pineiro for slightly worse performance.  Brad Thompson gets the start for the Cards with Carpenter's health still in question.  I've come around on Brad Thompson a bit over the last few months as a long reliever.  He's a far better option than Kelvin Jimenez when you need to absorb some innings as the Cardinals have had to far too often this season.  Hopefully, the sinker is on tonight since he's going to be throwing that around 2/3 of the time (a higher fastball percentage than even Todd Wellemeyer).

Preprogrammed overflow @ 7:30pm.

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Linups

You know the source…

Schumaker 8
Ludwick 9
Pujols 3
Ankiel 7
Glaus 5
Lopez 4
LaRue 2
Thompson 1
Izturis 6

Dickerson 7
Hairston 6
Bruce 9
Phillips 4
Valentin 3
Encarnacion 5
Patterson 8
Hannegan 2
Arroyo 1

-B
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by stlhulsey on Aug 15, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How do you figure?

Cardinals lineup is basically the same one that ranks in the top of the league in almost every offensive category, and Cincinnati’s, to put it bluntly, doesn’t.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 15, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he was comparing quality.

“linups” → “lineups” == “lineups, even”

;)

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhhhhh

I see…..

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 15, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It sure would be nice to go into our 2-game series against Milwaukee next Tuesday

on a 10-game winning streak

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crazier things have happened

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 15, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The last time we won at least 10 games in a row was 2001

We did it twice, once a 10-game streak and once an 11-game streak

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure would

As long as the pen doesn’t get overworked we may have a best case scenario here in August. Lots of days off limit the excuse for piss poor lineups when going series by series. Hopefully it shows up that way.

Kinda wish they pushed Welly back a day and started Thompson last night. I have to admit that I would much rather see him in Florida than I would in Cinci.

If he keeps the ball down (aka, it sinks well) then he’ll be ok, but he could use the extra feet in the OF if it doesn’t.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday is frozen with a 1-2 count on Shu

anything happening?

no TV here

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 15, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lud double in the left corner

Pujols pop up on 1st pitch.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 15, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

I’m still looking at Schumaker with a 2-2 count

gameday stinks sometimes

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 15, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 run job to right.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 15, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks, guys!

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 15, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glaus pop up center on first pitch

inning over. 2-0.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 15, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday has caught up, thankfully

I appreciate the info

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 15, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gone are the cornrows
The mullet flows in the wind
Where is his guitar?

"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle

by iron duke75 on Aug 15, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good start boys

Keep up the momentum, Puppy Kicker!

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 15, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Rick likes playing at the GAB

He’s been pretty solid there this year right?

.167/.286/.667(!) in 14 PAs, that ISO of .500 just went up

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well that was a reverse first inning

from what “feels” like a norm. Glaus and Pu first pitch. Rick dug out a decent curve, and Skip had a lengthy at bat. Luddy being well, Luddy. Does pretty well in the #2 spot iirc

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cincy announcers said he's benefited this year by hitting in front of Pujols

riiiiiight……..

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 15, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

.321/.378/.716 in 91 PAs

Those numbers all just went up, too

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ball DOWN PuppyKicker

You don’t have the room here.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

was there ever any doubt?

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Aug 15, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually he's not

He gets jerked around from the rotation to the long bullpen to the short bullpen to Memphis. And he never complains, he just keeps plugging away. He doesn’t have the stuff of a Chris Carpenter or an Adam Wainwright, but he’s scores better than Kip Wells or Kelvin Jiminez. He just needs to get that thing sinking.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s great at getting ahead of the counts this year, but he does have issues since his out pitch has flattened out. That being said, he’ll be ok as long as the ball is down. Which it was the last three batters. That HR he earned though. Way too high

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I didn't realize he was supposed to throw a shutout tonight.

In that case, I guess he is worthless.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 15, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But with our bullpen

it would be nice… :-)

"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle

by iron duke75 on Aug 15, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

easy big fella

Puppy Kicker is far from worthless

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that his first MLB HR?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dickerson

came into this game with a 277 OPS+. No wonder they let Dunn go for cheap!

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, small sample size and all, but he's been killing the ball.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 15, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His OPS+ is 277

Our MIF’s combined OPS is .277

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is our OF misconfigured?

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 15, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rick’s protecting the ab strain he had I’d hazard to guess. So Skip in CF, Luddy in Right

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe next year Brad can

wait until after the photo to smoke out.

Maybe schedule that pic at 4:00 not 5:00???

by Harknights on Aug 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha. I was thinking the same thing

Do the photo any time up until 4:19.

That was a real test," Soriano said of the play. "He didn’t call the ball, I didn’t call the ball, but I saw him close to the ball and I let him get the ball."

by Cardsfan_inCHI on Aug 15, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is bad...

You’d think major leaguers could schedule a re-shoot or something…or use his photo from last year… Hell, Edmonds had the same picture up for at least two seasons…

"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle

by iron duke75 on Aug 15, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That will be the only run Brad gives up tonight

Calling it right now.

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 15, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe that hit just bounced his OPS+ over 100 since he's came over

hope it sticks and doesn’t regress

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A "Lot" of fans Al

we were all up in arms about Miles not coming back.

by Harknights on Aug 15, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice, way to work the walk larue

i’d love to get arroyos pitch count up and get him outta there early…

by djones9 on Aug 15, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on Gameday, it looks like Arroyo's

release point is fairly erratic

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 15, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Over 30 pitches, Keep it up

Thompson, productive AB

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cesar Izturis GIDP coming in 3....2....1....

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals '08

Can’t make a bunt to save our lives. Unless you’re Miles wanting a “hit” to bring the hitless pitcher up.

Ugh

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

way to go, Schu!

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 15, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ty Shu

Comeon Luddy

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

where's Yadda?

nice RBI SKIPPY

how about you have a hell of a revenger game Lopez?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Props to Arroyo

That was a nice pitch sequence. 47 pitches after two. Not too bad.

Alright Puppy Kicker, ball down.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

any one else notice Ank & LUD have the same weakness?

junk low & away gets them both nearly every time.

Lud seams to spits on the junk down & in that Ank still has problems with though.

at least they got the run back.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Arroyo ate Ludwick up last time we faced him I believe

i think it was the miserable Ludwick lead off experiment

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 15, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arroyo doesn't have a blistering fast ball

that LUD loves to feast one, i think thats a big reason LUD’s had his issues with him

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Brad

You can’t keep throwing them belt-high fastballs

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brad, you've only got one job out there

and that’s to KEEP THE BALL DOWN

come on kid

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish Carp was starting

Thompson is going to suffer a Pineiro tonight

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 15, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's the spirit!

i’ve missed your joyful moods dude

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have started Jaime Garcia

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 15, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He never even uses Jaime as a loogy

he uses him as a long reliever. And he does not use him enough

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 15, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean you at least want a chance,

to be spared a Ron Villone sighting? Cause I sure would.

by fuegophil on Aug 15, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, that was a hanger to CPatt

Thompson got lucky

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 15, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thompson should be pulled now

He can’t keep the ball down at all, he damn near gave up a homerun to corey patterson

Freaking get him out of there TLR

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 15, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

congrats thompson

you get a AAA player to hit into a DP

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 15, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy crap i hate that park

GET THE BALL DOWN BRADLY

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lucky there too

that ball was not down where he needs it

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He looks like he's been taking lessons from Young Pitcher

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Putting young pitcher and thompson in the same category

is damn near blasphemy.

One has elite stuff, the other barely belongs on a Major League roster

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 15, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

piss every one off & then get out of it with minimal damage done?

dude needs to get the ball down big time

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I meant throwing high fastballs, but whatever guys lol

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I should have said Anthony Reyes instead of Young Pitcher

What would Reyes’ Native American/TLR-given name be? Broke Pitcher?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thompson eithier has the sinker working

And he is passable or it is not working and well… you know…ugh…. bad

by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 15, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn

straighten it out Albert & you’ll with some fan a truck

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice catch by the fan

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

25 pitches, at least 15 were belt high.

Sigh

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or higher*

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMO Thompson would be an awesome member of the pen,

if only he were one of our last options, not one of our first. Every good team needs a guy that can occasionally eat innings, get groundballs, and do garbage work, even if that guy goes sour every now and then. I think it puts him in an unfair position to be option three or four out of the pen.

by fuegophil on Aug 15, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's option 3 or 4 out of necessity though

The other options aren’t any better

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

And that is what stinks; because the rest fo the pen has been bad so often, it puts Thompson in bad situations in which he is not talented enough to frequently succeed.

by fuegophil on Aug 15, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great, now Troy's hurt himself

perfect

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

huh?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 15, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

errrr, nevermind

guess he was just out of breath or messing with his shoes

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whew

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 15, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

APu didn’t run through a stop sign, Mark that one down boys/girls

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 15, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What's wrong with Albert?

He didn’t run through the stop sign

by Harknights on Aug 15, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to score at least once every inning tonight

See what you can do about that, Redbirds.

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 15, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lose one into the seats LaRue

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

alright Stache

have a revenger game son

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Boo gameday

Froze up again on “in play run(s)”

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

force at 2nd

pu scored,

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me, too

what happened?

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 15, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind, it's back

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thompson should never start

because he has to hit and it’s too embarrassing for him (and the birds). he ought to bunt every time until he figures out how to do it.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he can't bunt either

if his last AB is any reference

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 15, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where the hell was strike 2 to Thompson?

Looks at his ankles and a foot or two outside on gameday

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bronson is averaging 23 pitches per inning

Keep him working!

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 15, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way, this doesn't apply anymore

But if someone told you Jason LaRue would get a grand slam today, would you think they meant a 4-run homerun or a dish at Denny’s?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a home run

because last time i checked there were no Denny’s in the Natti area

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boo you for dumping on my joke

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry to bring fact into the equation

i’ll never do that again

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yo dennys

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yo fish

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Big Z is getting beaten around again

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 15, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huzzah!

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if Troy doesn't win the GG

i’ll hurt someone

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Glaus for Rolen...

what an amazing trade

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 15, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh

I still miss Scotty. Not saying I don’t like Troy, but…

and damn nice sinker action PK!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bit late

but brandon phillips is an awesome defensive 2B.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that was some fine pitching PK

for all the grief you all give him, he does have a 2.97 ERA this year as a starter.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...coming into tonight...

Hopefully he hunkers down and retires a whole bunch in a row to keep it around there

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right, small sample size & all

whats this his 3rd or 4th start?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the world is full of amazing, non-predictive stats

it suggests that if thompson pitched a complete game he would only give up one more run. seems unlikely

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and i never realized

that jay bruce was that fat.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fat?

Adam Dunn fat or Prince Fielder fat?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

more Dunn than Prince

he’s still a baby remember

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

barrell-chested

so maybe 2002 adam dunn-ish?

His B-R page says 6’3" 205. Lol.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nicely done PK

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is there an html way to post a pic from your hard drive?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sure, just give me your credit card number and your ip address

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Aug 15, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

1. Upload it to imageshack.us or tinypic.com
2. Copy the url of the direct image
3. Come back here, click the picture button, paste in the direct url
4. ????
5. Profit

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I'd have to upload

Too lazy to do that

Like the Underpants Gnomes ref

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It takes all of two seconds to upload

That’s some kind of laziness, brother

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I’d have to edit in Paint, upload to another site, then post it on here…it’s Friday, I’m allowed to be lazy

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you could do that, but you will miss out on a valuable investment opportunity

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Aug 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got a great time-share in Maui you may be interested in...

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

email it to me & i'll do it lazy ass

FYI, i’m working on getting tickets to the game Sunday afternoon. if i go, what kind of sign should i hold up?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ANKIEL THE BALL, RICK!

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 15, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Emailing it may take even more effort, because I’d still have to edit and crop etc.

It’s not that important

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 15, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fine, just thought i'd try & help a brother out

as for the sign, i’ll be right next to the Reds dugout & i might even get to meet some of the Cards. i’m pretty excited if it works out. i was thinking of Keep Adam A Starter. or a shout out to VEB.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try picnik.com

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 15, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you better have a

STUDWICK sign, you know , just in case

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 15, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh the Stud Wick & Jack A Dong Wick signs are a given

if i get to go, i’m just hoping Tony doesn’t put out his get a way game AAA line up & he gives Albert, Rick, Troy & Lud the day off. i haven’t been to a Cards game since 2000 when my dad & i saw the Card lose to the Pond Scum @ Busch II. my fingers are definitely crossed.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bad call ump

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on the K to Rick?

i’ll say. it damn near hit him

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

entering dvr sleep mode

anyone else getting that? I choose “don’t sleep”.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

What the hell?

Went away, but that’s the worst product placement advertising ever.

by lightbulb on Aug 15, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh well

kept me from seeing how in the world Thompson managed to walk Corey Patterson.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damnit Stache!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice job stache too

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice play stache, again

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

was there a play at the plate on that ground ball?

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 15, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what's with yaddi?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah i have no idea why Yadd's not starting

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone know...

why Yadi isn’t playing tonight? Strange time for a day off. This is a pennant race

by 10worldchamps on Aug 15, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LaRue is absolutely terrible

That was the worst sequence of plays ever

Why is Yadi not playing tonight? He just had a day off two days ago

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 15, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dude he lost his balance & fell backwards

shit happens

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha lost his balance?

no he didn’t, he couldn’t make a routine block or tag

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 15, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, he lost his balance & fell back

and Corey slid into him & pushed him back too

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't think so

he tried to bring his off leg around underneath him to block the plate and couldn’t. he positioned himself so awkwardly that he could not reach the runner. if he’d just gone for the tag instead of the block when he got the ball, he would have had him easy. no reason for that. disgususting from a professional

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

disagree completely

he did everything he should have. The ump blew the call no mater what the Cincinnati announcers say.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

larue played that poorly

watch his legs. he was not going for the runner and got caught by the ump

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 15, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

horrible catcher

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 15, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a bit harsh

everyone has off days

Smell the Glove

by emrfg8 on Aug 15, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i still don't think he missed the tag

and i also dont think patterson ever touched the plate.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FSN Natti had a good shot of it

and he missed the tag & Corey pushed his leg back & got his foot on the plate before Stache tagged his leg

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 15, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

I saw something completely different on the same video footage. See below.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

la rue looked scared

maybe he can make it up next inning

Smell the Glove

by emrfg8 on Aug 15, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

patterson was the scared one

his slide pulled up a foot short of the plate; his foot never touched it. Larue’s back leg was on the front of the plate, he fell back, but the plate was blocked. he was expecting to be hit and patterson didn’t hit him, but that doesn’t mean patterson was safe.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 15, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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