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Game 122 Open Thread: August 12 2008

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St. Louis Cardinals @ Florida Marlins


Lohse Volstad
13-4, 3.80 3-2, 2.67

here's a short article about the marlins' starter, chris volstad, that i saw at fangraphs this morning. he's a sinkerballer --- only 1 hr allowed this year in 123 combined AA-MLB innings, and a big-league GB ratio of 56 percent. the cards often have trouble with this type of pitcher. he doesn't have great control though, and he's bound sooner or later to leave a couple pitches up and pay the price. maybe tonight.

i'll be out of pocket all evening; i've programmed one overflow thread, which will open at 7:30 CDT.

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Didn't we just beat up on Derek Lowe?

He’s a sinkerballer

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sheffield

Put on waivers. Should we claim him and arrange a trade with the Tigers?

by llabyellov on Aug 12, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for adam kennedy

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously though

who would he replace in the OF? Lopez? whats his contract status?...he is a winer and if he takes ABs from Mather then no way

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by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Protection

Is he the protection of Pujols though? Yes he would take away AB from Mather for the next 6 weeks.

by llabyellov on Aug 12, 2008 6:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Protection

protection for Pujols. Sorry

by llabyellov on Aug 12, 2008 6:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It could work as a rental

but i doubt they do it

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im with you

if he’s gonna take ab’s away from Bomberman, I dont want anything to do with it. I think we need to continue to see what we have in the kids before we bring in some “washed up” (loosely applied), veteran(s).

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's not a huge sacrifice or anything.

We probably wouldn’t need to give up much if we took on a decent chunk of his salary.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 12, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but you are the hook in 09

see below

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

09

His 09 contractwoul d change my mind. I’m all for playing the young kids but it seems like the concensus on this blog to win now?

by llabyellov on Aug 12, 2008 6:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im like to win dont get me wrong

but for a guy who can be a cancer, and is owed at 40 14 mil next season, plus takes abs from young guys..i say pass..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah lets bring in templeton to play short while we are at it

he has some attitude problem but hey hes 53 and might be able to still hit

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry

but I would take him over Mather for this year. We can get Mather back in September, anyway. Shef is a big time talent, and Mather has shown he’s still rocky (just look at him against a slider).

That, and like you said, we won’t have to deal with Lopez in the OF anymore.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 12, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thing is this

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/08/sheffield-place.html on the hook for 09 yuck

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah that is yuck.

but if we could work something out with salary, I wouldn’t mind giving him a roster spot.

Brian Giles looked so much better . . .

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 12, 2008 6:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sheff has a sub-.700 OPS this year

and he’s 39, so that’s probably not a fluke. Mather and Schumaker can likely both out-hit him at this point.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 12, 2008 6:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was .839 at 38 years old . . .

there’s also a chance that his first year at full-time DH has thrown off his hitting. There is a psychological factor in baseball. Some people just can’t do the DH thing.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 12, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thats the whoel reason he wants out

of Det is he says it does mess with his hitting

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was .839 in detroit in '07.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 12, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was responding to aet

shef has claimed the DH has hurt him hitting and wants out

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

got it

missed that bit.

Still, even if he hits at an .850 OPS clip, he won’t be that much of an upgrade over Mather and will be a defensive liability…

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 12, 2008 6:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Volstad

That’s an amazing HR ratio. Kind of scary to be honest.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 12, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like he's due for regression

Maybe, in about 45 minutes?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

let’s hope.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 12, 2008 6:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we wanted protection

Why not just scrap the Sheffield ideas and sign Bonds…..you get the same attitude questions and save 10 million plus Bonds said he would play for league minimum rest of the year so he would probably give it to Cardinals Care

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because Mo won't sign Bonds.

end of story.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 12, 2008 6:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+ infinity

can we drop the whole “sign Bonds” thing? Its tired and needs put out to pasture. Please?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fine

drop em. All Im saying is, we cant hardly go a day without someone bringing BB’s name up in a thread relating to his signing. It’s gotten old, very old.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point but

Some people (myself) are sick of seeing everyone and their dogs projected pitching staffs for 2016….. I mean come on we dont know if McGwire’s son can really hit or if its just the roids give it some time

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point

we can always just pass up the parts we are tired of reading without commenting too. it is really too good of an idea to catch on though

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 12, 2008 6:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what a novel idea ....

not reading what you dont want to read interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 6:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can see the civility

going out the window on this subject, so I will not post any more in response.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just to let you know

I wasn’t trying to be an a-hole. There are just topics that I like replying on that other people don’t. I can tell you feel the same way. I just don’t see why we have to limit what others like.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 12, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wasnt trying to bash anyone

i agree that you arent going to be 100 % satisfied with every post …thought he made a valid point

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i didnt say i wanted bonds cant stand the guy

just seems like if we wanted to deal with all of Sheff’s issues why not just deal with Bonds’

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

riiight

like the Cardinals org has any problem signing players with alleged PED use following them around. Glaus, Franklin, Ank?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im gonna ask my doc for some HGH

and then maybe approach the Cards…jk

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

with your shoulder

youd have a viable excuse to ask… haha

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

specially since he revealed

I have a “crease” they didnt fix

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

really?

maybe you should see Doc Paletta. He seems to do wonders with shoulder’s such as yours.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was thinking i need to see that guy

that Hudson and Jaba saw the andrews guy

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or maybe i should just call my bro in law Andrew

jk

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a-cha!

a-cha!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no organization has a problem with it

so many players from the past decade have that potential lingering over them. It’d be like shooting fish in a barrel, so it’s not worth it to worry too much about it when signing a player (unless they used it this year).

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 12, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats what I was saying

the OP seemed to take the stance that the Cards should shy away from Sheff because of the PED allegations.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

right

I was just agreeing / adding on.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 12, 2008 6:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry

it looked like you thought I meant something else, in that you were replying to me. Sorry again for my confusion.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

off subject question

i am making a video and its a spoof of SNL coffee talk i need a opening music clip..i have been searcing jazz songs on napster and am about to fall asleep or drive my head into a wall..Does anyone know of a song i could use..you know talk shows have those gay lil songs they play before they start..wheres liam he’d know i bet

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how about

this?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

talk show not game show..

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by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i tried to napster that guy

but he wasnt found

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by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you asked for a

“gay lil song”, so I found one.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha you remeber the skit?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4118/saturday-night-live-coffee-talk

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miles Davis

or, as he’s known in Canada, Kilometers Davis.

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

listenign to a few of his songs

and it sounds like “freddy the freloader” was used in the game sim city while yer city built..haha

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha you knew that?

wow completly random..they both sound similar..thanks for the help but a lot of his stuff is slow..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 7:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey!

What are you trying to say?

Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

by liam on Aug 12, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHERES MIKE SHANNON

anyone know of this assignment they speak of

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he is in Milwaukee

hanging out with Uecker. Had an interview with him on FSN pregame

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 12, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

im too used to how shannon and even know how rooneys call home runs…Everytime its someone else i never know if its gone or caught

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 6:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anytime

and apparently from the interview, not only is Uecker going to be the new commish, he is also planning on resuming his playing career

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 12, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

id vote him in

at work so have to listen to it on the radio

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 6:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sheffield is bad news

Supposedly, we have a great dugout atmosphere with good guys. Why mess it up with a totally selfish guy like that? 

If Leyland got rid of him, TLR ain't gonna take him, anyway.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 12, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wainwright

on the pregame, they said his next start is saturday. wasn’t it supposed to be thursday originally? sounds good for everyone who wants him in the rotation.

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good evening

big sports night if you’re a fan of the cardinals, michel phelps, and women’s gymnastics. EXCITEMENT

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any word on Carp's visit with Doc Paletta?

Nothing on the official site…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never mind

Addendum to the P-D story:

Chris Carpenter left Florida later than originally expected today and will not meet with Dr. George Paletta until tonight. STLtoday.com will have more on this story as information becomes available.

I guess this means another nervous evening awaiting his prognosis.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

holy crap

the brewers have won six in a row. shit.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice poke lopez

and nice first to third skip

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 12, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A little dissapointed to see flop in the lineup again

but then I realized he was actually playing MIF for once.

by TheBirds on Aug 12, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oka

that’s good and all lopez, but you just took the bat out of albert’s hands.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Put it in Luddy's for a GS

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

people are too concerned about that

he’s not the only one who can produce, and another guy on the basepaths can only help.

by TheBirds on Aug 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agressive baserunning there

I just hope that doesnt take the bat outta Big Als hands.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It ensured the walk

Why run there?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why leave 1B unoccupied for the walk?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disgusted

thats what Albert is. Did yall see the look on his face?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

atta kid luddy

baller

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

guess the marlins haven't gotten the memo

walking albert to get to luddy is a Bad Idea.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad Idea Jeans

http://www.hulu.com/watch/10310/saturday-night-live-bad-idea-jeans

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its not as good as

mom jeans or thre legged jeans..haha

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by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LB called it...

... let’s be patient and make the kid throw strikes. we’ll see if he can.

by kindred on Aug 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

righteous

pujols has no respect for jose

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barton in the Dugout

Just not on the 25 man roster?

by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ya it was discussed in the other thread

i guess its legal..to keep him on dl but no one knew for how long

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by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See what you get?

Dont make the Mang mad!

Way to drive it Studwick!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rock 'n' roll baby

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are we the best 1st inning team ever?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our "power guys" have been doing that a ton lately

3-0 is usually a get-me-over fastball, a good pitch to crush

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can't tame the beast.

If he sees a fat pitch I like his chances of getting Ludwick in.

by TheBirds on Aug 12, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

green light?

the P isnt exactly having good control of his pitches. Maybe Ank was hopin he would throw a get-it-over fastball.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stay patient

This kid is all over the place. Sit on a pitch and drive it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good i guess

if they play a doubleheader tommorrow, the cards could be 4.5 out at the end of the day tommorrow.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Out of one jam and into another

It’s be nice to put up a large crooked number.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

glaus 2 away from 300

didn’t realize he was that close. maybe he can have one of his two homer nights tonight.

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's at least 4

in fact, 5 teams had 4 guys with 100 RBI’s in 1999: ARI, CLE, COL, NYY, and TEX. Since then the angels did it in ‘00 and the braves did it in ‘03. I’m sure someone at some point had a team with 5, but I only went back to ‘99.

If Ankiel has one of his hot streaks, we could possibly have 4…

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C'mon Yadi!

Clutch!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

uggla must’ve known molina was running, he knew he had to rush it.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great defense

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

home scoring...not an error

i love it

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by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it'll be changed later

maybe. they don’t always score it an error immediately…

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought since they got one out it couldn't be an error

You can’t assume the DP or something like that. I’ve heard Shannon and Rooney mention that several times.

by BTown Birds fan on Aug 12, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah but thats

a horrendous play and with Molina?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll be back on later

Heres to a big, fat, W!

Go Cards!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

marllins broadcasters say

they have “the hammer” hitting sixth. sounds intimidating.

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats a strike

where were the first 2?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the more I see of the pitcher batting eighth

the more I don’t like it. Too many 1st and 3rds with two outs. I wonder if TLR will scrap that idea.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when your number eight hitter

is batting in the first with runners on, its not really a bad thing. but i get what you’re saying. i like the double lead off, fwiw.

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 7:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's really barely a factor

This was discussed ad nauseum earlier this year. Almost only a style issue. The only problem comes when the guys on either side of the pitcher can’t hit their weight.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lohse made a mistake there

and got really lucky ramirez took it.

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

that’s sad. who are they playing and whose pitching?

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Playing Texas

Don’t know whose pitching….been watching St. Louis but I turned over to check the score. I couldn’t believe it.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 12, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JD is actually hitting leadoff for the sawx

that box score is fun to look at

the Rangers just got 2 of those runs back.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

what the hell izturis?

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here

uggla before the break:

.286 AVG, .374 OBP, .605 SLG, .979 OPS

after the break:

.193 AVG. .280 OBP, .361 SLG, .641 OPS 3 HR and 11 RBI

so yes, very, very uggly since the break.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gameday is snagged up

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yours too?

I refreshed and it kicked into gear with a rapid catch-up.

Great AB by Jacobs, but a better SO by Lohse, to end the inning.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah it just fixed itself

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

watching the marlins broadcast

and from their center field camera, it sure looks like lohse has gotten away with some fat ones, especially to hanley

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dan uggla

looks possesd on espn gamecast. its pretty funny

by 916baller on Aug 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice, Skippy

Volstad has thrown all strikes this inning. Not that it helped versus the Schuman.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dan needs to start reading VEB

just say no to Sheff

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dan needs to read something, anyting about baseball

He and The Mad Hungarian are not very good.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shockingly, Al actually sounds like he's against getting him

because he’s a DH only now

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What did he say?

I am getting the Marlins broadcasters

by ccthemovieman on Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just putting it out there Sheff available

and wondering if he’d be a good fit

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, the Cardinals have the two

worst-switch-hitting middle infielders in MLB.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are like a 1980s WWE tag team

Beward of “The Middling Middle Infielders!”

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe

middling is a pretty high ranking for these guys

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

at least we know where they are

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man

gotta love the football field in the outfield.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To whoever it was earlier that said Albert looked pissed after walking

Is he more pissed at walking or popping out?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it sure did not look like a strike

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah.

have the florida cast here

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember that game

I watched the whole thing, studying for an exam during the rain delay(s).

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hah

after that call, maybe albert’s was a strike

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KKKK

Four strikeouts in under two innings? Did we sign RIch Harden by accident?

by Red in Chicago on Aug 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's fascist

Be democratic and throw some groundballs, Meat.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now

i take it back. it’s an umpire lottery again

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KKKKyle is a strikeout machine today

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lohse has left a lot of pitches up

been lucky so far i’d say

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from what i've seen so far

he’s missing not only up, but in the middle of the plate. his control is off. it’s been off for the last 3 starts too.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hope he's not

“regressing to the mean”

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lucky

a run didn’t score there

by adiueordie on Aug 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man

those 45 marlin fans are really getting to kyle with thos boos.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they are actually trying to bunt here

unreal

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

trying to stay out of the double play

and gives their best hitter a chance with 2 in scoring positiion

by FunkeeC on Aug 12, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kinda strange.

I guess there’s another man in scoring position for Ramirez.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 12, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good lord

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he killed that

and he knew it, and liked it

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that ball just spun up there begging to be nailed

and Hanley didn’t miss it

damn i wish he was our SS

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same pitch he took first time

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shit

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

been taking lessons

from the pinata?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse sucks

but on the positive side, we can now afford to sign him. Poor bastard cost himself atleast 20 million with all these terrible starts he’s putting up

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well wtf

thought we might cruise, but doesn’t seem possible. yadi will have to save the day again

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

What a sad, predictable turn of events

by riotmute on Aug 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball is a game

that consists chiefly of reversal of fortune. That’s what makes it good.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Cards need to steal Hanley on their way out of town

i wonder if the Fish would notice if we left IZ2, AK & Lopez in theif clubhouse?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

P.S,

don’t forget their nightly walks & their hart worm pills. they are to be given rectally.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I was wondering earlier if theis would be

a barn burner, or if the two pitchers would trade spots…stepped away 3-0 and now well-3-4..yuck

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same here

it’s a 15 minute drive home, fellas. You could have waited to lose the lead until i got there.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse is not the same pitcher he was in the first half

he’s imploded. I’m willing to bet the pressure of pitching for a contract has finally got the best of him.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously?

He’s had a couple of bad starts, true. But “imploded”?

by Red in Chicago on Aug 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

really, he's not been the same

since WCBW stopped doing his prediction thing. Come back, WCBW!!!

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you gotta take every thing in context

he’s having a career year, but it’s unreasonable for any one to expect him to pitch as perfectly has he had been all season long. he was going to have some bad games. hopefully Dunk can get him back on track.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a little criticism of mine

It seems like Duncan rarely goes out to the mound to calm down the pitchers. There have been a lot of times when it looked like it would have helped. He is the Master of Pitching, after all.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The full Olympic baseball schedule is
http://www.nbcolympics.com/baseball/resultsandschedules/index.html

The website has a link that lets you look up when and how games are covered with whatever TV service you have in your area.

it will also be on at 12pm on msnbc i think

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Aug 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How does Billy the Marlin

get elected into the Mascot Hall of Fame before Fredbird?

I am depressed.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

east coast media bias, obviously

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

think how fbird must feel

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kind of like

skip swinging at strike 2

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whats wrong with swinging at strike 2?

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

strike 2

ended up about a foot outside and in the dirt

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh

you meant a specific pitch and not strike 2 in general. I thought you were talking the “work the count” mantra a little too far.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who does Skippy think he is

swinging at a ball at eye level? Rick Ankiel?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there is not one person in the upper deck

going to a game in miami must be kind of sweet. you buy an upper level ticket and just move down to the box seats once you get to he stadium.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm watching the Olympics

and am becoming a big fan of synchro diving.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Olympics

I have a cousin (3rd, on my Moms side), Matt Tegenkamp, that is running in the 5k (I believe its on Saturday). He’s from MO, and a year younger than I am.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not discounting those events

just took notice of the synchro diving.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

that’s interesting too.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wonder if

flopez and ak are roomies?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice DP

the pitchers best friend indeed

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here

or at the stadium? Hehe

by madeintaiwan on Aug 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lets get some runs now

sick of scoring in the first and not tacking on

by doug_4409 on Aug 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go cards

get the lead back

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now thats just not fair

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs