Game 121 Open Thread: August 11 2008
by lboros on Aug 11, 2008 6:00 PM EDT
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St. Louis Cardinals at Florida Marlins, Aug 11, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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| Pineiro | Sanchez |
| 4-5, 5.04 | 1-1, 4.22 |
the marlins are dead last in the big leagues in attendance. all 29 of the other teams have long since passed the million mark, but the marlins have still drawn only about 929,000. they will be have to exceed their per-game average to get past a million patrons during this 4-game series. . . . .
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Come on you birdies!
"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Aug 11, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pineiro
Blech
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if that was just a live shot on the FSN MW pre game
there were about two people in the stands at 6:15pm est. how sad. i know it’s been raining off & on, but it always does that in Miami in the summer.
MLB should be ashamed of themselves for having a team down there. no one cares, and no one goes to the games. get them out of South Beach already Bud!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 11, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not gonna happen
they broke ground on a new stadium. i’ll try to find the article
by 916baller on Aug 11, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is the wikipedia
by 916baller on Aug 11, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orange Bowl
Im so glad theyre tearing that trash heap down! That stadium was the source of much ire up in N. FLA.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
it was looking pretty rugged by then end of its existence
by 916baller on Aug 11, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah,,uh,,i hate to break it to you, but it's not a done deal just yet
i love wiki & all, but they dont have all the facts. they have a ton, but not all. at least they covered the current lawsuit & site move that has every thing blocked & at a stand still right now. so just because they’ve torn down the orange bowl, doesn’t mean the marlins are staying put. go here. there’s a lot of good info there. more links to updated stories.
i’m still hopeful it falls through. south beach has no business having a MLB franchise.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cannot really blame the fans though
the last two times they won it all, the ENTIRE team was let go. Not a good way to keep a fan base. Then again, they almost always have really good and young exciting talent
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they've won two World Series in like 15 years.
So their fans can’t complain too much.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Aug 11, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup per Gameday
Schu 8
F-lop 5
Mang 3
Lud 9
Ank 7
Yadi 2
Mini-Me 4
Pinata 1
Iz2 6
by Andyfantastic on Aug 11, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carp: homeward bound
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/
Not good news…he’s entering the wicked world of Paletta…
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 11, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm ok with that
We’re in a playoff hunt this year, but next year and the years beyond are still much more important to me. Chris Carpenter is no doubt a huge part of the success we may or may not have in those years, so I’d rather they err on the conservative side with this issue.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all i hope
is that one day wainwright and carp will pitch 1-2 in the starting rotation because that has yet to happen.
by 916baller on Aug 11, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me it looks like they want to get this right
that’s a good thing.
by Harknights on Aug 11, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez!!
We actually have 3 true OFs playing tonight…but f’ing TLR still found away to start 3 of our middle infielders. Gimme a break with Lopez!
Milt Thompson FTW!
by gossard56 on Aug 11, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
who else do we have on the bench that is an actual backup 3b? AK 6-4-3? nope. Mather? as creative as TLR is, nope. LaRue? nope.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
how many days has glaus had off recently? i can’t think off the top of my head when he’s been out of the lineup as of late. granted he had two home runs on satruday, i’m sure the season is starting to wear on him. he looked pretty frustrated on that check swing late in the game last night. i think it is a much deserved day off for him.
by 916baller on Aug 11, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention.....
Lopez is 5-13 against tonight’s starter.
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 11, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Glaus probably needs some rest
But 13 at-bats is a pretty meaningless sample size. None of those hits went for extra bases, by the way.
by jdub176 on Aug 11, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
13 ab's are meaningless
unless youre TLR.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly how many AB's before it means something?
And I disagree that 13 is too small. Not saying I’d base a million dollar decision on it, but when you have a guy that probably needs a day off, and another that is 5-13 against the SP, I’d make that deal.
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 11, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's an empty 5-for-13
Like I said, no doubles, triples, or homers. 13 is a tiny small sample size – like 3 or 4 games’ worth of at-bats. We just saw Albert go 0-13 (or something like that) against the Phils. Did that mean anything, other than that he had 3 bad games?
by jdub176 on Aug 11, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh, "tiny small sample size"
Oops. A bit redundant there.
by jdub176 on Aug 11, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
individual batter splits vs a pitcher are never more predictive
of future performance for that batter vs that pitcher than the individual batter and pitcher performances vs the rest of the league. Splits vs a given pitcher should never be used for decision making unless there is a handedness split involved.
The actual number of PA’s required to be even marginally predictive would be somewhere in the 3-4 thousand range and no one is ever going to amass that many PA’s against a given pitcher.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on Aug 11, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.....
So every coach uses these splits, but you think they are worthless?
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he just told you why they're worthless
I don’t know that every coach uses them. No one seems to rely on them as much as La Russa, and I’m sure some of those guys realize it’s a waste of time.
by jdub176 on Aug 11, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm just pissed
we finally have a chance to have all of our big power threats back in the lineup, and he sits one of them
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 11, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully the MV4 will be back tommorow.
I want to criticize Lopez instead of Mather, but Lopez will probably bloop a couple as usual.
by TheBirds on Aug 11, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From reading the site the last two days
it’s become apparent to me through the way others view me that I am the problem with the attitude on this site. As much as I love this site and the phenomenal work that is done by the commentators, I can see now that it is best that I leave so that the bile and vitriol that has taken over the site will cease.
Goodbye.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 11, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's going on
I haven’t been able to comment much lately but I always enjoyed your takes. We have not agreed much but I never saw anything in your comments that would inspire vitriol. However, I have to agree with you that the tone of this site has changed. It reminds me more and more of Bernie’s Pressbox and Cards Talk.
I truly appreciate the hard work that Larry et al put into this site and it pains me to see it reduced to the level of the PD Forums.
by indakind on Aug 11, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't really been here for the Cubs loses, but I don't think it's that bad
As far as I know the only one who wants TLR fired here is me.
by TheBirds on Aug 11, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems than whenever someone voices their opinion
someone will jump on them. After awhile, a new person especially gets discouraged. We just want a friendly place to air our vents against the manager or a player or another team, and make our suggestions and comments. This may sound corny, but I’m from out of town and I have shocked at the rudeness I’ve seen here (from a number of people, not just one or two). That’s not how I view Cardinal fans.
Hey, we’re all rooting for the same team, so may I humbly suggest all of us be a little more civil to each other? That includes the language.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 11, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinal Fan
Not saying its you but some of you never have anything positive to say which is totally rediculous if you guys were true cardinal fans.
by llabyellov on Aug 11, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
And I’ve noticed this more and more with what are considered some of the better posters here.
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and some people never have any constructive criticism either
it seems that the same people who get upset at us for being critical in a loving way think that any decision that anyone in the cardinal orginaztion makes should never be questioned. I am not saying it is you or anything, but one of the great things about this site is that Larry allows the constructive criticism
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 on the language
though, adults will talk how they see fit. This site has seen better days as far as the game threads go. I’ve been here for all of last season, and this season so far, as well and its been my observation that, recently, the gamethreads get very venomous at the drop of a hat.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was worse in '06 IIRC
especially during those long, long losing streaks.
Though the real-time update “feature” gives the site more of a glorified chat room feel, and that lowers the quality of the discussion, especially during game threads.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on Aug 11, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone hits the panic button
At the first sign of trouble. Lohse gave up a leadoff homer? Call the game! Pujols grounded into a double play? He’s terrible in the clutch! An opposing player stared into our dugout? Wish harm on the man and his family!
by jdub176 on Aug 11, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see no reason for you to leave the site....
You just say what many of us feel. It’ s okay
The wind in here just shifted 360 degrees!!!
-Mike Shannon
by cardsphan04 on Aug 11, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only speak for myself
but I do not have a problem with you. You should be able to say what you want on this blog. Of course as long as it is not totally completely inaprop. But I really have not seen much of that
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HL,
I don’t know what’s been going on, but I hope you’ll reconsider…I have always enjoyed your contributions to VEB…I hate to see anybody run off this site because of differences in opinions…we all want the same thing here: a winning team in St Louis…shouldn’t that be enough, even if we all don’t agree on the best way to do it??
Besides, I would miss that Keith Hernandez avatar…it’s always made me feel that he’s participating…you may very well be him, for all I know.
what ever you ultimately decide, be well
by tbell61 on Aug 11, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you won't be participating in the circlejerk, then
"so if you can’t understand what someone else is saying why don’t you just shut up about it instead of being a jerk-off?"
by baw on Aug 12, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not good.
You aren’t the problem. Stick around. You always add great insight to everything and that’s what really makes the site great.
by Carps on Aug 11, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
please stay HL, if we all always agreed with each other this place would be no fun anyway. There really are not that many rules here
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't run away
I should run away because I hate all the venting. Some people post without looking at the stats. Like Izturis hitting against LHers. He should be in the lineup all the time and some of you do not think a .370 obp against Lhers is adequate. No idea why? Like I said some want Albert batting in all 9 positions and well that is never going to happen. Most teams have holes in the lineup.
by llabyellov on Aug 11, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Izturis is fine against LHP
if he would only play against lefties most of us would all be fine. The problem is that he plays against RHP way more often than he should. I think sometimes his ineptness against righties gets to us too much, if that is possible.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
you can’t leave. you just can’t.
there’s a reason why 1 out of 2 times you post a fanpost, it shows under “recommended fanposts” and it’s because you do your reseach and you turn them into quality fanposts. it’s the same with the comments. the attitude isn’t your fault, it’s the sites.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't go
I agree that the level of snark on this site has increased a lot lately. I think you bring a good perspective. Usually you take the time to bring some actual support for your positions, which is all a person can ask.
I think most of us feel personally invested in the Cards, so when things turn south as they are now the fuses get shorter. Myself included. It’s a little easier to go for the gratitious cheapshots when you’e pissed, and most of us are a little right now. We can all make an effort to clean up some of the personal shots and stay topical with our comments, and this site can still be a strong resource for the Cardinal fan. I think there’s enough mature posters here to avoid it degenerating into anything like the P-D boards.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 11, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um what?
The tubes of the internets are full of bile and vitriol. That’s why they are slow, because all the other stuff that trys to get through the tubes get stuck. I wish I could find the tube that goes into my house so I could clean it.
Does anyone know if the intertubes are PVC or are they copper pipes?
by Harknights on Aug 11, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends on your provider
pretty sure time-warner uses the shiny elastic dryer hose stuff.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on Aug 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be back
When you come back can you bring me some clams?
by Harknights on Aug 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
All the bile and vitriol is spewed between me and an army of my own sock puppets.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it might help
if you wash those socks before turning them into sock puppets
maybe you like the bile and vitriol though, whatever works
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kidding
I have to listen to people whine about stuff that’s out of their control at work, don’t enjoy hearing (reading) it while watching the ballgame.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i get that too
i thought maybe you did have an angry mob of sock puppets, although that mob would probably be a singing dancing troupe of sock puppets instead. you know, the kind that would be in a Mel Brooks film
it would not shock me at all
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't post that much...
but your comments and fanposts are very much appreciated.
i for sure would miss them.
Imagine the Cardinals winning it all in 2008
by Johnny64 on Aug 11, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i have never posted...
...and yet, here you have coaxed me out of my 2year+ stint as a VEB lurker! i’ve never even posted on a blog before (so apologies in advance to all, just in case this comment shows up in the wrong place!) personally, i would never put your comments even near the “bile and vitriol” category, so i’m kinda confused. even when i don’t agree with you, i think you make some great, informed points. and more importanly, things in the baseball universe are totally out of whack since you posted (i.e. yadi has a throwing error; pu struck out!) net, please put some thought into withdrawing your resignation. :)
by westsidecards on Aug 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you gotta be
freaking kidding me.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 12, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To HL:
I would really hate to see you go HL. You are by far one of the more honest and fun posters on this board. It would be a great loss for you to leave forever. If I can offer a little advice…maybe just take a few days or a week off and let things like the Edmonds stuff cool down. That stuff will be a distant memory in a matter of days.
Also this is a board about the Cardinals…things said around here really shouldn’t be taken too seriously. I know there are a very small few on here that love to prove they are right all the time..but you just have to blow off some of their comments. In the end this is a board to post about our passion for all things St. Louis Cardinals. Don’t let a few take that fun away from you. So think about taking a few days off or whatever but remember there are those of us here that like your fan posts and your comments.
Take care!
by KYCards on Aug 12, 2008 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow....
Did you actually think that you might find some sort of fulfillment posting on an internet sports blog/website? Sounds pretty contrived to announce your intent to just go away….“all I need is this ashtray”…“and this plant”….“and this chair”…
All in all, your negativity pales in comparison to others on the few game threads Ive followed. Ive enjoyed disagreeing with you and marveled at how you find the time to post so many times a day.
by cardschinmusic on Aug 16, 2008 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...and you dont even...
have the words testicle or shit in your signature line to be seen every time you post…take pride in that HCL!
by cardschinmusic on Aug 16, 2008 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guarded optimism: I keep telling myself
that a lot of strange things have happened in the month of September, so don’t give up hope on the Cards. There are some famous collapses by teams, as you know. But what worries me is falling behind another team besides the Brewers (like tonight’s opponent). Making up ground on several teams is asking too much. In other words, we have to step up beginning tonight to hang in this race. Losing Carpenter again is another big blow.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 11, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Think of it this way
If we continue to lose and fall out of the race we could get to see alot of the young talent get called up. We could see rasmus, Motte, Jon Jay and others. atleast that would be fun
The wind in here just shifted 360 degrees!!!
-Mike Shannon
by cardsphan04 on Aug 11, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Winning the WC would be swell, but as long as they get 80 wins I'll be happy
I made a bet in January that the ‘08 Cards would end up with 80+ wins this year, and it just might pay off!
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 11, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good evening all
no gymnastics tonight, so i guess it’s all baseball for me.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
see above
about 1/3 of the way down.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just read it
i know it’s needed, but i still don’t like it.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
venting
Like this barf post. He is 5 for 13 against the pitcher. Who else plays to give Glaus a day off?
by llabyellov on Aug 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on dude
i was just making a humerous remark.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice hit
F-Lop! Way to get on ahead of El Hombre!
Lets get some runs!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shcumaker rarely has a long at bat
that bothers me for a leadoff hitter. Even though he has been really good
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UIBB
comin up. If its a mistake, make him pay big guy!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lets go luddy
ducks on the pond
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cmon Ludwick!
Be Studwick!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought he got all of it. Way to advance the runner.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn dolphin stadium
that would’ve been a shot in most parks.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ank is back
yes!
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A big ballpark
Lud might have been a stud elsewhere but this stadium
by ccthemovieman on Aug 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahah
atta kid ank, that throw looked great, it went two feet
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
backwards
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
immediate impact,
I love it baby, good to have you back Rick
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adding to our first-inning run tally
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice hustle Rick!
a mere mortal wouldnt’ve ran it out (see: Ramirez, Manny)
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Sanchez
a guy that a lot of teams are looking at right now, or am I thinking of some other Marlin?
by ccthemovieman on Aug 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
juust missed dan?
that was a foot outside.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hanley
not much I wouldnt give up to get that guy.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's ex-Phillie Garcia
who was working out in Miami (which is why I thought Marlins).
The Red Sox, among a half dozen other teams, sent a scout to look at Freddy Garcia throwing in Miami on Tuesday. Garcia is finishing his rehab from season ending sugery last season and now will make a decision to sign with a team.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 11, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many batters until Joel gives this lead back?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
more than one at least
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is not the kind of question you want to ask buddy
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4
The answer was 4, although it wasn’t all his fault
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh god
dan just called hanley “exciting”
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yadi should've put that one in his pocket
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, come on guys
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it wasn't exactly a great throw
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the merry go round continues from last night's 6th inning...YUCK
when it rains it pours
by buzzburton33 on Aug 11, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one, k, two more please
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
need another one from the brother of Kal-el
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan a little harsh on Piniero there
It’s not his fault Ramirez is on 3rd.
by TheBirds on Aug 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
those angry marlin fans on that called 2nd strike
sound menacing.
there must be 49 people there!
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is willingham in the 3 hole?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok, dp then
please
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
how about $99.99 for cardinals care.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see that a lot
what does it mean? Im not from the StL area, so Im unsure what it is you’re talking about.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everytime the cardinals get a DP
KTRS (or someone, idk) gives $99.99 to cardinals care.
mike likes to mention it a lot.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
thanks for the clarification
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A mortgage company donates
the $99.99 to Cardinals Care. It’s American Home Equity or something like that. And, yes, Mike does like to mention the fact often.
by cardsgirl95 on Aug 11, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Piniero is being a little too careful
Run is probably going to score, but now it could get worse.
by TheBirds on Aug 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or better
with a DP!
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mother of god
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I cannot take too much more of Pineiro
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
thats unfortunate. C’mon Pinata, bear down!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would rather have Marquis back, then Pineiro
He is without a doubt, one of the worst pitchers in baseball.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is even going a bit far for you
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh boy
the lead lasted three batters.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
right
but, were still tied! Hooray, silver linings!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is the kind of attitude i can get behind
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't really blame pineiro for that run,
i hope he doesn’t let it get him down.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ew
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, this goes with the marquis comment....
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok dude
you let someone else take like that. you don’t say that about your own post. i hadn’t even considered it like that until you said something.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we put
all VEB minds together and collectively wrote a book titled: “pitching with a lead” do you think it would help piniero?
by 916baller on Aug 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
easy
lesson 1: don’t throw belt high fastballs to sluggers
lesson 2: suck less
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably not
I think he might be offended by all the “pinata” remarks
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, I am pulling for you Pin
settle down big guy
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is the best option for pineiro on this seasons team??
better in bullpen or DFA? (he’d definitely fit in with this year’s pen)
by uoficardsfan on Aug 11, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep starting him
until someone better comes along.
like a squirrel.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might watch a little MNF today
but I’ll have to mute it to avoid hearing Favre 1000 times.
by TheBirds on Aug 11, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i can't wait
to hear the reaction when aaron throws his first incompletion…..
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre?
who is this you speak of?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
turn to espn in 20 minutes
actually, they are probably talking about him right now.
by TheBirds on Aug 11, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he used to be the packers coach
geez, don’t you ever watch espn?!?
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN...or is it pronounced espen
if its an all sports network some idiot wants to broadcast, that will never work…who would want to watch sports 24 hrs/day…Absoutely insane!
by buzzburton33 on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont stop running iz3
nice double reguardless
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
iz2
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm, Joel?
what were you diving out of the way of? Anibal likes to “Paint it black”.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
skippy
the master of taking pitches.
although i will never complain about it whenhe gets a hit.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It drives me absolutely nuts
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There seem to be two brands of people on this board
Those who come out angry when someone makes a first-pitch out
Those who argue with the others that if it’s a good pitch, why not swing away
I guess I’m in the third group, in the middle
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there seems to be two kinds of pitchers on this team
ones who can get outs, and Piniero
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume
you’re restricting that to starters.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
touche...yet again
geez man, don’t you ever get tired of getting those things?
[/jealous]
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you guy's know that Izturis is batting over 400 in august
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
400?
wow! whats the OBP, SLG, and OPS?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has a 475 obp this month
thats why when you guy’s have complained about him of late I just role my eyes. Like I said, he is the least of our problems right now
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here
385 .467 .423 .890
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
27
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daimondbacks w/ Dunn is pretty sick.
Must be nice to play in the West.
by TheBirds on Aug 11, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That division
has certainly stocked up on offense for the playoff run.
Nice D out of Lopez there.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or the central in '06....
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that trade
since it looks like the D-backs will be playing the Cubs in the first round
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lopez makes his first play
good to see.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice play F-Lop!
smooth like ice!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pineiro sure throws alot of hittable pitches
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Touche
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was destroyed
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what is the score?
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Aug 11, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2-1
fish
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats everyones impression on our hitting coach?
I personally dont like him.
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Aug 11, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's what we got
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that is horrible
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Aug 11, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he's done anything wrong
by uoficardsfan on Aug 11, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he hasn't really done anything ight either.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anything?
care to explain all he has done wrong? I mean, there are some success stories and failures on EVERY hitting coach’s resume.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, we are tied for 4th in the NL
in R/G, and that’s with 2 black holes in the lineup…
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on Aug 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty dang impressive
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tied for 3rd, actually
my bad
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on Aug 11, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom of the pack in P/PA
but I imagine a lot of that has to do with La Russa’s aggressiveness mentality and the personnel McRae has to work with.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
dead last in P/PA, yet somehow second in batting average and second in OBP. I figured with all the walks we’re taking, we’d be higher in the P/PA department.
Wonder if that is related or just an interesting coincidence?
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on Aug 11, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a lot of high-contact hitters
When they swing we generally put the ball in play. Hitters that swing and miss a lot will see more pitches.
by DriverZn on Aug 11, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see a split
I’d guess that our P/PA decreases as the game goes along, but I’d have to compile that split from PbP, I’m pretty sure.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-1 marlins
bottom 2, 1 out, runner at 2nd
by uoficardsfan on Aug 11, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
that was a shot!
Keep it down, Pinata.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought jo-el was going to screw that up.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PFP
thats why they practice.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone unavailable to pitch tonight?
by uoficardsfan on Aug 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
beat me to it
dangit!
well played
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you'd have to think thompson
but that’s it.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me
but, i’d do it, given the chance.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Fliz!
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I havent made my mind up about the player yet
but you gotta love that nickname!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, that changed quickly.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Aug 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang!
nice range Iz2! Too bad it didnt result in an out. Get em next time.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
god i love you pujols
booyah
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HUGE 3-6-3
BEAUTIFUL PICK ALBERT!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that sure was a thing of beauty
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get some runs you red birds
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
redbirds: okay andy.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Aug 11, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yaddIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!
homer
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yadi!
go get you some
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YADI!
SWEET SWING BIG GUY!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking
Yadi should take it personally that Rick got hit and get his back
Should have posted it instead of thinking it
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your pay won't go up
just because you post it, though.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 11, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
But I would have had witnesses :D
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wondering?
Is there anywhere out there that has a stat on how a team’s pitching staff fares against an opposing team’s lineup leadoff through #9, whether it be ERA, avg or whatever? It really seems to me that the entire Cardinal staff gives up alot to the 6-9 guys on the opposing teams?
by buzzburton33 on Aug 11, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
surprisingly, it’s not on the B-R pitching splits page. you can find what the cards 6-9 hitters did, though ;)
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on Aug 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was looking for that, too
Couldn’t find it, either.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got it
Team pitching vs. #9 hitter
Vs. #8
Vs. #7
I’m pretty sure that’s it. The numbers make sense, the AL teams are the worst pitching against #9, for example.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
I really thought that #8 would be higher, but the #7 seems about right…in my mind, anyway
by buzzburton33 on Aug 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
How many batters until Joel gives THIS lead back :P
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stop that, it does not work
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well he does wear the #35
so we’ll see
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bout time you showed up
remembering a few “head turners” from some other pitcher that donned the #35?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha i had to paint
and then have a football meeting..6th grade oh ya
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatre ya paintin?
Is Biscuit helpin?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
our yth room
um no..she did manage to get he rhand in paint the other day though..righ tnow she is trying to open a box we got from simply youth ministry with her toy shot
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
sounds like fun.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wendy opened it she
was mad the dvds were not for her.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
nice.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not one
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Aug 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baker
is seeing the ball really well coming out of Pinata’s hand. Sheesh, two straight smoke jobs by him.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Baker has a sweet looking swing doesn't he
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
just wish he wouldnt show it to us.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 11, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that HR
really picked up this team. Even Joel looks energized.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's how i feel, too.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully
he will also be transformed. just a comment, he reminds me of reyes in that it’s not that he can’t pitch well, it;’s just that he does so much less often than we/he’s like it is really puzzliing.
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
props to Pinata that inning
pour it on offense
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
gotta give ‘em props for that.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 k's for albert
trade for sanchez immediately
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good luck...
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 5th Jo-els kryptonite...
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 11, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so he's superman?
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: How many wins do the Rams get this year?
I’m afraid it’s going to be around 3 again.
by TheBirds on Aug 11, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
21
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm going to go out on a limb
and say 10.
also, if you’re a rams fan you should hit up http://www.turfshowtimes.com
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, i really like that site.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just read
i’m a voyeur.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad
there’s no Fighting Illini SB Nation ‘site.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a project for you my friend
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Understood
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you've got time to post here.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm also working
It takes a ton of time to come up with thoughtful stuff to write. It takes two seconds to come up with a smart-assed comment.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like the one i just mad
and i know. i was just being an ass.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another reason mizzou kicks illinois' ass
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braggin' rights game is going to be awesome this year
Can’t wait. You guys are going to have a fantastic team, and the Illini might surprise some people if we can establish any kind of running game outside of Juice.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that game terrifies me, as a mizzou fan.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our receivers are supposedly looking filthy
at camp. Looking forward to seeing whether Juice can get the ball to them without exposing ‘em.
Mizzou’s got some serious talent, though, and Daniels has a good shot at the Heisman.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that game excites me, as a mizzou fan
my first time at the braggin rights game!
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i went last year
it was soooo much fun.
until they almost lost. and then more fun when pig picked that pass off.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh
i miss pig….
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pig gonna make the chiefs?
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know who smiled on me
but it looks like i get to go to the ILL, NEB, and KAN games. The things I have to endure with friends like these
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be totally honest
i really think mizzou’s going to kick their ass. too much offense and not enough D on the illini side.
i’m thinking some thing like 42-28
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mizzou has one good season
And they think they’re the new USC.
Methinks you have alot to learn about being an elite program
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
an elite program
like ‘Bama.
roll tide.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
An elite program that has turned into the Michigan St. of the SEC
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
julio jones is going to make you cry.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like Jimmy Johns made me cry
He’ll wind up in jail sooner or later
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, not a sandwich fan i see...
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Quizno's man
I’m pretty sure their chicken carbonara is what God eats
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
auburn is not an elite program
if that’s what you’re referring to.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I'm not
And Missouri had a fantastic seaso last year. 12-1 is pretty impressive. But you’re still third fiddle to OU and Texas in the Big 12, and Nebraska is probably on its way back.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mizzou is better than OU
and just as good as texas. nebraska will take it’s time to come back.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
we have to beat OU to be better than them….
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right on
damn OU!
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except
OU is better than Texas
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
We’ll see who comes out on top in Dallas in a couple of months
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
texas
which well make mizzou look even better when we kick their ass in austin.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just keep talking that Flores
I’d be more worried about Illinois at this point
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
i’m not worried about illinois.
and that’s that.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we don't think we are the new USC
but suffering through the last 25 years of Mizzou football will make anyone excited after one great year
Must be what a cub fan feels like
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touche
Sorry to jack the thread into a college football flame war, I’m just way too pumped up for college football season to get here!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you and me both!
and i don’t think it got flame-y
just fun
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can we get an overflow for College Football talk?
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
someone get an OT fanpost up.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+21
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got it backwards
Our D’s going to be a major strength for us this season, the offense is questionable without Mendenhall.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Depending upon the cornernerback/safety positions, and the new middle linebacker.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well okay
but i don’t think anyone in the country has enough D for mizzou.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except a little team in Norman...
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but we don't have to go to norman this year : )
but we still have to go to austin : (
talk about getting screwed two years in a row.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do you mean?
our schedule is easier this year than it was last year.
and we play one of UT or OU basically every year…
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but having to GO TO norman and austin in back to back years.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dufrene & Co.
will surprise. They didn’t get much limelight the past couple of seasons.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and why haven't I joined that place before
you know, right now?
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 sounds about right to me
I know it was only pre-season, but they looked absolutely awful. I’m not sure Bulger is very good either.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 11, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bulger
is the 8th most accurate quarterback in NFL history.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
since he got paid he's taken a step back though
either that or getting sacked every other play is getting to him. Maybe no speedy WRs was a problem too…...
by TheBirds on Aug 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that, or
having 12 different starters on the O-Line in the first 5 games, coupled with losing your starting RB….
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Marlins
are an amazing team. Brand new team every couple of years, a ridiculously low payroll….yet they are usually competitive. I hope they beat out the Phillies and Mets…..after losing this week, that is.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 11, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think we should hire their scouting department in toto
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was pretty
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
That’s the kind of contact I like seeing him pitch to.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sweet dp pin
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 11, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Paul Byrd has cleared waivers
and won his last four starts. Probably not a fit anymore, but he was pretty Suppan-like a couple of years ago.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 11, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Red Sox should
have considered him. They’re hurting with Wakefield out and Buchholz unable to do anything right.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wainwright
Thru 2: 2ER, 1K, 1BB, 3H, 30 pitches.
5 groundouts to 0 flyouts though.
by longhornscardinals on Aug 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
30 pitches
better take ‘em out.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be a lot happier
if they gave an indication they were stretching him out.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't like that AAA hitters are hitting him quite well so far
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rick
hard to excuse that one. play right in front of you
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yadi rocks
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
while I agree
this post would’ve been better served after he hit the 2 run dong, instead of after he lined into a DP (not his fault that Ankiel doesnt pay attention though)
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't even here for that
sorry, I have to do laundry. I went commando today
/too much info
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After last nights game
you’re hardly the only one washing some drawers.
by fuegophil on Aug 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
past present and future baby
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
so you have the power to pretend you’re still 18 if you wanted to?
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is it with you
and 18? you think that that is the best age? you have a lot to learn! It’s not even in my top 5 ages. just wait until you’re 27!
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
i just like to have you guys know that my best years are ahead of me, not behind me.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of that
where’s gdm?
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like I give a rat's ass
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could be seven years old the rest of my life
Best year EVAR
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point!
best times to be had are building lego starships and piloting them around the universe
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had Legos
I’d still build crap with ‘em.
How is this game failing to hold our collective attention? This is a pretty solid, and unexpected pitching duel.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well to be fair
nothing can compare to legos
and I am still on a downer until Carp comes back
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep eating
that peter pan peanut better. it’s your best shot
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
peter pan is shit
i’m a jif man all the way.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
27 was good
but I’m honestly enjoying them more and more each go around.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
alert
that does end. no time like the present
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of the present
back to doing laundry
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't say that
please….they start going downhill?
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be honest
I think I am too. the last few years I have just started doing what I want to do; which is making art and music rather than working in advertising. wisdom is underrated
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
marlins upset with umpiring. first time i’ve heard that in the last 5 minutes
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joel's batting for himself
Resting the pen tonight.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thats a tough one pinata and the pen equally scare me
by BEANZ07 on Aug 11, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles
at least someone decided to try and get sanchez’s pitch count up.
by Evilfrog on Aug 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wainwright...
3IP, 2ER, 4H, 2K, 1BB…
by longhornscardinals on Aug 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not the worst thing in the world
I just think (a) he should have started at AA; and (b) he will need at least two more outings before he’s ready to come up, regardless of whether he is supposed to start.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
48 Pitches, 7:0 GO:FO. The hits were on two line drives, a fly, and a groundball. He’s gotten two DPs.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
Haerther struck out pinch hitting for him, so that’s as much as they’re stretching him out.
Still a good sign that he’s heading back for the rotation.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean NOT a good sign, right?
by Red in Chicago on Aug 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A good sign
if he were bullpen-bound, you wouldn’t have expected him to throw more than 30 pitches.
by liam on Aug 11, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heading back to the rotation is a bad sign?
after the questions about Carp?
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't waino
have a pretty high hits per 9 innings?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looking good flo
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Knew that was coming.
It was a set-up.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
flo is back up?
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahh, the great names just never cease
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait
there’s a baseball game going on?
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what happened?
still 3-2 , so we have that going for us
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by mattyfrommo on Aug 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm glad mcclellan is up
this inning worries me
by uoficardsfan on Aug 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for any stragglers, overflow link
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/8/11/591719/game-121-overflow#comments
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
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