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Game 120 Open Thread --- August 10, 2008

Adam1_tiny by chuckb on in News Comment 474 comments

carpenter

dempster

0-0, 1.00

12-5, 2.93

I'm not sure what needs to be said.  Carp's making his third start since returning from the DL and, if Wainwright's going to be relegated to the pen and replaced w/ Braden Looper, Carp's going to have to pitch like a #1.  He was pretty salty the last time out and he figures to get better as the season goes along.<p>

Dempster's been tremendous this year -- worthy of his selection to the All-Star game.  He's a free agent this year and is earning big money w/ his performance this year.  He's also been sensational at home this year -- 10-2, 2.77 w/ 66 H and 4 HR in 91 IP.  He has been somewhat vulnerable to the base on balls -- 40 in those 91 IP -- so if we can get some runners on base, maybe we can put a couple crooked numbers on the board.  BTW, he's 2-1 w/ 29 K's and 0 HR in 26 IP since the All-Star break.  There's a good argument to be made that he's passed Zambrano for the top spot in the Cubs rotation.<p>

I'll get a couple overflow threads up so there's plenty of space to discuss the game.  Hopefully, Cards' hitters can unclog the bases the way I'm planning to unclog the site and we can claim a series victory.

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Schumaker 8
Mather 7
Pujols 3
Ludwick 9
Glaus 5
Molina 2
Kennedy 4
Carpenter 1
Izturis 6

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 10, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd say.....

There really isn’t much difference between Lopez, Mather, Izturis (better defensively), and Kennedy at this point. I assume TLR saw something in the history. You know he’ll have a reason, if asked.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 10, 2008 7:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm wondering

would be rather see Lopez playing over Izturis? I’m not so sure that I can say yes to that.

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Without seeing Lopez's D at SS.....

It’s hard to say.

If he is somewhere between Miles and Izturis defensively, and Izturis stops hitting, I’d say yes.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 10, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looking at his RZR in the past at SS there are a lot of sub 800 numbers

so SS seems out of the question. As far as tonight Im sure TLR is thinking that Carp is going to pitch to contact and hed rather have a strong defensive MIF.

by rlgosnell on Aug 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Power isn't everything.....

How many times has Mather K’d in the last two weeks, with less than two out and a guy in scoring position?

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 10, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he has had 7 ABs with RISP this year.

And he is .353/.450/.500 with 7 Strike outs.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oopsie
  • 17 ABs with RISP this year.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A 950 ops!?!

Get him out of here!

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Aug 10, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right now

I think Mather in LF and Lopez at 2B at least deserves a shot. They must have a really poor scouting report on Lopez in the MIF.

by rlgosnell on Aug 10, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then I would have to ask what the hell is the point in picking him up.

I would rather see Barton up here while Ankiel is hurt. Picking up Lopez to play in our strongest area makes a ton of sense.

by rlgosnell on Aug 10, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lopez at short/miles at second

miles has no business playing short and adam kennedy has no business being on this team. iz2 should merely be a late game defensive sub.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disagree

I think Lopez will get a shot to play second.

by njnick on Aug 10, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's dumb

if they put him at second and miles at shortstop.

if they want to play iz2 at short and lopez at second…fine, i guess, but keep lopez out of the outfield.

on another note, i do love TLR and the great job of managing he has done this year, but his lineups get increasingly ridiculous each year.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't either

which makes the acquisition…um…puzzling.

by chuckb on Aug 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kip Wells was DFAed

to make room for Livan Hernandez. The Rockies sure have made some strong moves this year.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't tell Mo that!

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jess Todd up

to Memphis. Any bets on whether he’ll make the 40-man and see action in September?

by Red in Chicago on Aug 10, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He will destroy us all

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Aug 10, 2008 7:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all kidding aside, well not ALL

I will never get tired of that!

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

doubtfull

But we might get an extended look at him in spring training next year.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For those in the South...

FSS has Springfield Cards vs. Corpus Christi on.

by outraged on Aug 10, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SPR vs. CC

Cards up 1-0; bot 2

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Prince Fielder looked funny on that webgem

in mid-air catch, kind of looked like a flying blob

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barton has to come back Tues

Who goes down? I really hope it’s not Mather.

Just another reason why that Jose Lopez signing makes no sense whatsoever.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

Seriously... what were Rich Harden's parents thinking?!?!?!

by stltrav09 on Aug 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops

wishful thinking I guess.. u know i mean

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

Seriously... what were Rich Harden's parents thinking?!?!?!

by stltrav09 on Aug 10, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they are going to keep Mather up, right?

I am not sure I could handle it if it was Joey who is sent down. For a team that has offensive “problems”, don’t you have to keep the guy with the most offensive upside going into the stretch run?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

September is still gonna be

over 20 days away. It might not be soon enough.

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im hoping

for a kennedy DFA. But whatever.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hahah YES

3 minutes into the broadcast and Joe Morgan has already said “I’m not big on statistics, but…”

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Aug 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

beat me to it

nicely done.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Morgan

Joe just said: “You know, Jon, I’m not big on statistics…”. Really Joe?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope Dempster gets rocked early

I dont want to watch his stupid glove twitch any longer than I have to

by rlgosnell on Aug 10, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't know if i can take this flub love fest thats about to happen

the Big FOX was bad enough yesterday.

thank GOD for the mute button

give em hell Carp

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont mind

A Cub love fest on days when we beat them 12-3.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First Pitch,

Comin up!

Lets take em behind the woodshed early boys!

10 RUN SUNDAY!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Skippy

Didnt swing at the first pitch.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cesar Izturis

plays for the Cubs, according to Jon.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if only

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did he just say

Izturis caught that? &(^ Izturis. He owes skippy now.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Field mic's

are really loud tonight.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

musted be plugged into wgn's

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mather

Is not a 2 strike hitter apparently. I did not know it was that bad. Oh well. He’s a rookie.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he just bites

at the breaking pitches…hard. easiest way to get him out is to throw something that will break outta the zone on him.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

Albert’s 1-0 pitch is about as good as he’s gonna see…

by glennrwordman on Aug 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mather can't hit good pitching.

He just doesn’t seem to know what to do with it, consistently swinging at outside sliders. He needs some more time learning.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s true of the majority of major leaguers. D.GOOCH

-- GOOCH

by GOOCH24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right, but Mather doesn't force the pitcher to come to him.

The pitchers are in total control of his at-bats. When he gets a hit, it is usually a mistake.

I know that is the case for a lot of Major Leaguers, but that is not the case for anyone in the starting lineup on the Cubs. It is hard for us to compete when we put Mather in LF and they put Soriano.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

um, okay..

but we put albert at first base and they put derek lee. we put ludwick in right and they put kosuke fukudome.

you can make this argument both ways for different positions.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its one position.

I think you are being a little dramatic.

by njnick on Aug 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is no one starting on the Cubs that can be dominated by a pticher the way Mather can.

We are relying on AAAA type players and they are relying on multi-millionaires.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and besides

you are talking about dempster dominating a kid. not some bottom of the rotation #6 starter dominating and established veteran. how about some patience, not every hitter can be albert and destroy from day 1.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

again its 3-4 at bats.

saying that the cards cant compete because of that is a little ridiculous.

by njnick on Aug 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When those 3-4 at bats are from our #2 hitter, the guy in front of Albert ...

It matters.

And, I will give you Ronny Cedeno. No idea why they are starting him.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

go with the flow

you have to realize, some of what has happened with our lineup is dictated because of injuries (the injury to ank being a big one, mather wouldn’t be playing as much if ank were healthy). it’s not like there are a lot of in-house options to plug in and get anks production out of the 2hole.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's his swing.....

Too long to consistently hit good ML pitching.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 10, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or it might just be

inexperience

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe, but I don't think so.....

Plus, plenty of young hitters don’t struggle. Some do, I just think Mather, if he is to be anything more than a reserve, will have to change some things.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

plenty of young hitters?

really? i’m half tempted to go through a list of first year players and sort the ones who have struggled from those who haven’t and i guarantee the list will be far longer for those who have struggled than for those who haven’t.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh.....

That isn’t the argument. The argument is that Mather is going to struggle nearly ALL the time against the good pitchers, b/c of his swing. Not just struggle, but struggle against a certain type of pitcher.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you said

plenty of young hitters struggle. i replied. that seemed like a pretty big part of your argument if you mentioned it.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

should've been

a “don’t” in the middle of hitters and struggle.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a very important game...

I don’t like saying any one game in a 162 game season is all that important, but I think in terms of the mental edge the Cards bring to the stretch, this game is pretty huge. D.GOOCH

-- GOOCH

by GOOCH24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and another

unintentional intentional walk.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

StudWick cannot be stopped!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

luddy

attaboy. just need Glaus to continue what he started yesterday.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

everytime i see Aram

at third base for the cubs, i cannot help but think of what a piss poor franchise the pittsburgh pirates are.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

that was actually a good move..for once..i was absolutely shocked they didn’t give up mclouth and bay for a bunch of trash prospects.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hate

how games on mlb tv are blacked out when you are traveling…no espn on this cable where im staying

by stlagg on Aug 10, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there is a cable outfit

with no ESPN, how did that happen?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

basic cable

im on vacation in a town outstide of boston…cable company must rip them off

by stlagg on Aug 10, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they dont need espn

they have a local all boston, all the time channel up there, undoubtedly.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That may be coming to an end...

there’s a proposal to seriously revise the blackout rules for MLB and it has quite a bit of traction. Is probably going to happen, which will mean teams can no longer blackout where they don’t have a local channel broadcasting their games. D.GOOCH

-- GOOCH

by GOOCH24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is good to hear.

For years I have hated the blackout rules when there was no game broadcast in Southern Indiana, yet MLB was also blackedout. I guess they expected us to drive 6 hours to the game.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lets go santa

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 10, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

swung at a lot of balls though

plus schu really could’ve taken a few more pitches there… god knows the bottom of the order is 1-2-3 on ~10 pitches….

by duncans_army on Aug 10, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ugh Troy, you suck

what have you done for me lately?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

slacker

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carp 7IP 6 SO 1 ER 1 BB 5 H

by njnick on Aug 10, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alright boys

leadoff single, set up the DP.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from your lips to GOD's ears!

nice call!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

Thats the Carp I remember!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

umm, sure

Carp 7 IP, 5H, 2R (1ER), 3BB, 6K

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you asked

haha

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm looking for a big game from Yadi...

... could be on offense; could be on defense. but i think it’s coming.

by kindred on Aug 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tailor made

dp

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

good job carp. dave duncan just got half a pack of rolaids off that ground ball.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice

Twin Killing. Apologies to the Minnesotans. And my younger sisters.

by glennrwordman on Aug 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

atta kid carp

5 pitches, beautiful

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice first inning Carp

lets have 7 more!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Five pitches, Carp?

Jeez. I was hoping for some efficiency!

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

efficiency from Carp...

... 5 pitches. that’s awesome when he’s on such a low count.

by kindred on Aug 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the count

is he still on it? this being his third start and all?

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

80 pitch count

according the espn preview on the website. But really they could be guessing.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they said ~ 80 pitches...

... not a strict count, but a target.

by kindred on Aug 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't heard anything about one

except from the espn guys right now. They are dinks.

by RiverRat on Aug 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

glaus

.988 fielding isn’t that why we kept rolen around

by BEANZ07 on Aug 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take a 5 ptich first

even though Sori hit a pitch he shouldn’t have

by RiverRat on Aug 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have no idea who these kids are for Springfield

because they dont have the names on their jerseys.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Easy

Now that I’m over the “Oh, s**t, will Carp’s arm explode on the next pitch” state, it’s nice to have the feeling that The Ace is back in town. They haven’t had that since he went down, no matter how good some of the other guys have been in Carp’s stead…

by glennrwordman on Aug 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wainwright was close

But never was there. I had a feeling he would have been if he would have stayed healthy this year.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

There were definitely moments where ADAM was heading toward being The Man, but…between Carp’s track record, and Wainer’s recent injury, the jury is still out. I certainly think he will be an Ace, but…Carp’s been there, again and again. When he’s pitching, I sort of feel like, “well, guys, get three and we’re gold.”

by glennrwordman on Aug 10, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anyone know when ankiel might be back

i miss that guy a ton

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so how come dumpster is getting the outside corner & Carp is not?

granted Carp only threw one there. but still,,,,

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I noticed it too.

The first pitch from Carp concerned me. If he doesn’t get that call, might be a long night for him.

Hopefully it was just that inning.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the glove flip

is so unnecessary. please make espn quit showing the replay over and over and over.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh my god

watch the glove! it’s soo cool! ahhhh!

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's obviously the source of his success this season

so they must talk about it

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

wow carp, didnt know you have been working on the looping bunt over the first base guy…almost

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 10, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

loud f bomb by carp on the second bunt attempt there….

by DarkHelmut on Aug 10, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

noticed that too. and kennedy just stole a baes.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

holy hell AK

sheesh your ass is L U C K Y

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great steal AK

that could be big

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes i know...

... i meant a bleeder as in “a little bleeder that finds its way through the infield”.

by kindred on Aug 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carp's single-handedly pushing up Dumpster's count

Go go go! How high can it go!

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

walk carp

to get to iz2. i mean…iz2 can’t be more dangerous than a guy with a .093 career average…right? right?

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good AB by Carp.

Nice if he got the bunt down, but making Dempster throw a lot.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

weak liner single to right please

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think

carp is either gonna hit it into the streets or strikeout. he is swinging that stick.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

poop

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or strikeout it is

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ball 4

strikeout.

d’oh

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great AB Carp!

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

tire out glove wagger!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hell yeah

Now if Izturis can make him work or get a single that would be most excelent.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

god he sucks ass

i really really dislike him

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

his defense

helps me like him more than AK at this point. although, and it may just be me, it seems kennedy gets a lot of timely hits that produce runs.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kennedy is quite clearly the better hitter

and his defense is almost as good as iztoo’s. I like Kennedy more

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too

it is kinda sad when we are to the point of trying to decide if we like AK or IZ2 better, isn’t it?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All Right,

11 pitch AB; can’t complain much. (And free F-Bomb t’boot).

by glennrwordman on Aug 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hah

i think kennedy is messing with dempster right now. getting in his head a little after that steal.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably right.

The guy must let things like that get to him if he is willing to look like an idiot shaking his glove just to avoid tipping his pitches.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

isn't that a good thing

to rather look like an idiot than to tip your pitches?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that just makes no sense

who would rather sell jerseys than be a good pitcher?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

because, not like he ever backed up his jersey sales with good seasons or anything. he just sells jerseys because he strikes a pretty pose at homeplate from time to time.

and everyone sure loved the poses when he was wearing cardinal red instead of cubbie blue.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont get it

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN Edmonds

That guy was ALL about image.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is your little slowup Willie Mays catch.

Could he have just ran though it and caught it normally? Sure, but that is not ESPN material.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and i bet

no one would have made that remark had edmonds still had the birds on the bats.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly.

When it was our team, we liked the attention and I am sure the Cubs hated it. Edmonds on ESPN all the time made more people in StL like him and buy more jerseys and whatnot.

Now that he is with Chicago, even though he is an average CF these days with reduced range, they all think he is God.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you think Edmonds

cares more about how many of his jerseys that sell than whether or not he helps the team out? Am I missing your meaning on this?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm hoping

there is some sarcasm or dry wit in his statements…but i’m not sure.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why?

Lebron and Kobe both just got threw saying they would rather play in Europe for more money and to expand their brand than help their current teams.

You think it is different for baseball? You think they guys are not concerned about their image?

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They said they'd do it for 50 million for one year...

Anyone would be a fool not to consider (that’s all they’ve said they’d do) taking 50 mil for one year.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sure they are

image IS a big part of todays game with the increased media scrutiny of everything. but you make it sound like all dempster/edmonds care about is looking pretty. these guys have put up terrific numbers (edmonds throughout his career/dempster this year) to go along with their images.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am saying Demptser does not. Edmonds does.

Exhibit A was the last play.

And the little hop from Soriano.

by Egyptian on Aug 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

42 pitches after two innings for Dumpster

Me likes

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boo

Oh well. 42 pitches through 4. Lets have a short inning and get Dempster back out on the mound.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

through 2

right?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did I miss something?

Cause I thought it was the bottom of two?

by fuegophil on Aug 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

aw hell LUD

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Errorwick

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

throw him nothing but HIGH gas Carp!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

crap

runner at 3rd already

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

god

i just shat my pants. i thought edmonds was the next great cardinal killer on that swing.

by lopey986 on Aug 10, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not so fast Hollywood

nice pose though

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Consistent with PitchF/x too

90-94.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Side note

Carpenter drops the world’s greatest F-bombs.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's just such perfect form and volume

But really what makes them #1 is the timing. It’s so instantaneous after he screws up—-it really is remarkable.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Aug 10, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

sounded gone on audio

by stlagg on Aug 10, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

94mph fastball there

according to espn

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dammit

almost

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's the kind of hit

I’m used to seeing Jimmy make these last few years. I like them a lot better now that its for another team.

by effin fisk on Aug 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mother of ass

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well im leaving something tells me I wont liek th eoutcome of this game anyway

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 10, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So is that an earned run?

Because, if Ludwick hadn’t misplayed that ball, no run would’ve scored

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

scored an E

doubt it wouldve been if the baby bears were fielding at the time though.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was a hit then an error

according to miller…if thats what ya meant..but ya

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 10, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

official scorer scored an E

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dunno

it was a single then an error..but not sure.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only 1-0.

There are runs coming this inning.

by glennrwordman on Aug 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Springfield is in trouble

they are down 3-1.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who cares?

all that matters in minor league games are individual performances, not team results

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good individual performances

collectively mean good team performances. Therefore, I care.

by chuckb on Aug 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs