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Game 112 -- Philadelphia Phillies @ St. Louis Cardinals -- August 1, 2008

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Philadelphia Phillies @ St. Louis Cardinals


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Hamels                Lohse

  9-6, 3.27           12-3, 3.68

 

The Phillies are a good team with a potent offense.  They'll be tossing one of the better left-handers in the league against the Cardinals tonight in Cole Hamels.  They'll aslo feature several lefty bats that Jaime Garcia may be called upon to nuetralize.  Kelvin Jimenez gets sent down (I'm 2-for-2 in getting relievers demoted -- you're welcome.) with Stavinoha sticking around.  With Rick Ankiel still injured and, again, the Cardinals unwilling to DL him, the bench trumps the pen.

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But, I see Kyle carving up the almost most undeserving MVP ever.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go Braves!

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Aug 1, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

theyre down 2-0 already in the first. they take to the bat now though.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same start we had last night

Hopefully same result for the Braves

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Aug 1, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know?

i was just thinking the same thing.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go Pirates

wait a minute…did the PIRATES really beat the Cubs today? Those tricky Pirates, mixing things up here down the homestretch.

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Movin' on up

to 4th. Ed Wade must be quaking w/fear of finishing last

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops

I should say the Bucs moved up to 5th. Forget we play in a six-team division

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, you'd think they would have no offense

who were the cubs pitching?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marquis

we should have known

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

amen my cardinal brother

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We have a really tough schedule ahead of us boys

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I aint skeered!

and neither are our boys!

GO CARDS!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kind of

we had 2 solo homeruns but that us all the scoring we did

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IIRC

we won though, right?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

we shut them out that day

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hooray for memory!

Thanks!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was also

the game where pineiro dominated through 6

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heh

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha!

A blind hog can find an acorn!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's funny

there’s like at least 3 different versions of that. it must be an ages old saying

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’d think so too.

growing up in the south, I’d never heard a different version; until I went up to Illinois to visit my folks.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cool

I’ve lived in IL my whole life. well, except for a few months living in Iuhwuh

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow, that is a great nickname for IA

can I steal that pass it off as my own?

If only there was a D in there

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A blind hog can find an acorn

is the version you grew up hearing? Just curious

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

sorry for the confusion.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love that

I did not know hogs loved acorns

damn things you don’t know being a cityfolk

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wild hogs go well, wild over em

any time I’d go hog hunting with a couple cousins of mine, we’d find a part of the swamp with some good hardwood trees in a cluster and scout there.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the one I know is

even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the one I heard

is my buddy from Texas who likes to get drunk a lot and is on my bowling team. when he gets a strike, he says “Even a blind monkey can find a banana”. I don’t know anyone else who says that

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh crap

hamels is homer prone though. I want to see Glaus break outta that slump

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why "oh crap"?

that is a good thing, no?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bear down Kyle

get this guy!

Well, that aint how its supposed to go.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh shit

time for some gameday action.

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I might have to switch

from MLB.tv to gameday. Seems like the signal keeps running away and locking my feed up.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same here

it is really pissing me off

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Azru (or anyone)

did you calculate the results from that poll last week?
I was out of town, I might have missed it

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The group think on the last 58 games was 32 wins resulting in an 89-73 record. Surprisingly optimistic given the results of the last 4 games, imo.

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/7/25/578778/game-105-open-thread-july

by azruavatar on Aug 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks, and I was here

I guess I was just too excited waiting for Carp’s rehab start.

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, You May Not,

Mr. Howard!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did you just give up on mlb. tv?

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

I went to the 1.2M feed and I havent had anymore problems. I might be a tic behind the rest of yall, but I get to see the game.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Settle down Kyle

get out of this inning unscathed.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good job Kyle

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so much for the braves helping us out

brewers up 6 to 0

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boo bitter beer makers!

Hooray for strikeouts!

Good K pitch right there Kyle.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll settle down

patience, young padwan, patience.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heh

yeah, Lohse is a slow starter. he locks in a little bit after he’s throwin

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all in all a good first inning

Kyle needs to get his pitch count way down though

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i do not like your attitude sir

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would I say that?

We’re going to win this game. I’m just pointing out that Cole Hamels will be very efficient.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha!

nice.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

10 pitches

thats still enough to score 7 runs. Provided 1-7 can hit back to back to back to back to back to back to back solo shots.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that'd be like a record or something

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a very sweet record

at that.

dont think its gonna happen though.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn he juuuuuuuuuust missed that one

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C'mon Bomberman!

1-0 right here.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thatll work

I mustve given the wrong sign. He thought I said “1B right here”... My fault.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

troy glaus hates troy glaus right now too

he’s really pissed he didn’t destroy that pitch

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's pissed EVERY time he flies out

never have I seen a guy get so angry EVERY at bat that he makes an out. You’d think the guy was hitting .900 with as angry as he gets.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i look at it like this, at least he cares

would you rather have a guy like manny who could care less if he hit or not?

or a guy like troy who very much so cares if he hits or not?

i’ll take a team full of troy’s over a team full of manny’s any day of the week.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm not saying I mind

I like that he has that competitive streak in him.

I just find it funny.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Troy

would get better calls if he stopped dropping the F-bomb every time he gets called out on strikes.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mr. Santa,

please can we have 3 presents?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm fully aware wins are a pretty meaningless

stat with pitchers in general

but it’s outright amazing that Lohse needs to win today and the next game just to hit .500 for his career.

and that would be 14-3 for this year.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depends on the pitcher

I think Bob Gibson’s wins were pretty much due to Bob Gibson.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well true, but it’s not often that a pitcher has to go 14-3 just to have a career win record @ .500

oh, and does it (which yeah, has yet to be seen)

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse is either a late bloomer

a convert to Duncanism or a statistical anomaly. If we sign him after the season, I hope he’s a late bloomer, since Duncan may retire soon, and we already have one statistical anomaly in the rotation.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll call late bloomer

just for the hell of it

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno...

He wasn’t able to keep from losing though. In his great year, he still lost 9 games

22-9 is hardly a bad record, but at the same time, you have to wonder, how do you lose 9 games with an era of 1.12?

by DiscoJer on Aug 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

<10

pitches for Kyle this inning.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not a good start

6 on the first batter

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Livan Hernandez

He got released today. Anyone interested in giving him a shot?

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do we have to pay any of his salary?

if not, sure. he can’t be any worse than Pinata

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

with all of our pitching injuries sustained

of course we’re going to have a guy like Pineiro. at least he’s a starter… our other 3, Looper, Welley, and non-major leaguers, aren’t really supposed to be starters.

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's actually 5.48 this season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?statsId=5734

I think he’d be worth a shot. Look at his stats from 2006, when he got traded to Arizona. His numbers were pretty ugly with Washington but got a whole lot better once he was with a better team.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if Duncan converts that guy to a good pitcher

he really would deserve to go into the hall of fame. doesn’t ol’ Livan give up a lot of home runs?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

18 HR in 139.2 IP this year

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not really

always thought that guy was overrated, even when he was good

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

he has been absolutely terrible this year.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

14 pitches, a lot better. though the pitch count test will reappear when it’s against the top of the order..

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HA!

Dan: “I think Im following you, Al.”

Al: “Good for you. Nobody else is.”

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i like dan...

but he loves to bring up “bad blood” at every opportunity and it gets old…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something looks wrong

with Hamels’ delivery.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tell that to our hitters

"A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while."- Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh

by CurtainCall on Aug 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

n/m

I thought I was seeing something different with the first 3 pitches of the Molina AB. i dont think its anything though.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

nice move Tony

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

double lead off

working to perfection.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It wouldn't trouble me if he let the pitcher bat ninth

when it’s Lohse or Pinata. Neither one can get a hit to save their hides, notwithstanding Pinata’s double last night.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but yeah

it has worked out so far tonight!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just got here

what’d i miss?

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Defeatism

from Raconteur. No sightings of westcoastbirdwatcher. Other than that, nothing.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

defeatism, really?

just because he thought Hamels was going to be efficient after Lohse wasn’t?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wcbw

doesn’t really post in gamethreads, at least that i can remember

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Phew

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse

thank you

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too bad Skip can't hit LHP

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe with the day off

he’ll do some clutch hitting

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and the phillies wouldn't

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can't let him off the hook again though

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OPB machine = Iz2

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looking more likely

as the inning progresses

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yahoo

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joey Bombed!

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

MATHER!!!!!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dear Mo:

In case you missed the message last night:

Joe Mather is better than C Duncan.

VEB fans

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

omg

I am in love with Joe Mather

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Finally some power

vs. LHP

That’s what we need.

by enoscountry on Aug 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man

Albert got robbed there!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yadi!

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

love those productive outs

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think when Ankiel gets back...

I’d like to see Skip sit and Mather play.

Skip’s finally proved he can hit major league pitching, but he just doesn’t have the power to be a full time corner outfielder.

by DiscoJer on Aug 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whatever the solution

It is a good problem to have

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

we’ve had the terrible problem all season now!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully Tony thinks the same way

if that happens , does it mean Miles is the new leadoff hitter?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

it means skip is the new second baseman

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by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We really do have an excess of good outfielders

which should make it real interesting to see when Colby will get his call

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As much as I hate to say it

I doubt that happens this year. I agree though, it will make for an interesting spring next year

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

considering that Colby got injured it pretty much puts the wrap on him coming up this year! which is ok with me considering that the outfield is not the problem

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sit skip generally on LHP

and then rotate him for some more playing time with the other three

Mather may become over exposed.
We know Luddy has overexposed issues from time to time
Rick is an injury risk.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

we still need to platoon the OF

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

platooning our outfield has worked very well for us this year

especially because it makes the guys play even harder when they get their time out there. And although I am a big Tony critic he does do a very good job at getting his players playing time and keeping them fresh

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’d agree with that all but
the 5th OF generally
Ryan when no one is injured

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hear you

especially when one of those guys in the shift was the illustrious Chris Duncan

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

I’m talking we should have a 4 man platoon, well until Barton is back anyway

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great inning guys

go do your job Lohse

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pitching

Hamels is at 49 thru 4

Lohse is at 50 thru 4

Seems to be a pretty good night for Kyle so far. Here’s to him keeping it down.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant 3

not 4

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by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank goodness!

MLB doesn’t have Dane Cook on their ” There is only one October” commercials

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

off topic

Raconteur, or anyone who was talking about fantasy books last week… what was that series that was supposed to be better than the George RR Martin series?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Steven Erikson's The Malazan Book of the Fallen

or Robert Jordan’s A Wheel of Time were the two I recall being referenced.

by azruavatar on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

it was The Malazan

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

holy cow

that ball that Howard hit was in the air forever

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.985 OPS

what Mather was doing before tonight since starting full time SSS warning

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont know

he seems awfully tall for a SS.

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by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if he was a SS

would we have the tallest SS and 3B in the game?

it would be close. Glaus is one tall boy

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably

I wouldnt think there would’ve been a taller left side of the infield ever.

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by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we’d catch a bunch of line drives that no one else could

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

9 pitch inning

nice

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse looking tough tonight

keep it up Kyle

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great inning lohse

good play albert

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow, 4-0 uh?

joey go boom? was it a GS?

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by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3 runner

then Yadi had a sac

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3 run jack plus Yadi SF

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sweet, gracias every one. i'll be in & out all night long

joey go boom.

i likes it. i likes it a lot

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by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

bobby patrino sitting in crappy seats

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i guess he's more of a tony fan

than tony is a bobby fan

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by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

aren't those the champions club seats?

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by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

didn't look like it

but i could be wrong. regardless, the champs club is the single most amazing baseball experience i’ve ever had. it’s the only time i’ve ever been able to say i ate chicken marsala with a side of bratwurst at a ball game.

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that is what I thought

but I went back and looked . I think it said section 230…that would be the outfield loge box in the RF corner

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so he was in someone's luxury boxs seats then, right?

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by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It looked like it

I would sit there!

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

f*ck arkansas

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey!

my mom’s from Arkansas & my grandparents live down there.

it’s not so bad. hot as hell though.

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by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i meant specifically the university.

the rest of the state, i have no feelings about.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha, yeah, no worries

being from mizzou i hear all kinds of F Arkansas jokes. then when i tell people my moms from down there & i have a lot of family down there they back peddle so fast it makes my head spin.

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by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I loved Dan's line

“surprised we didn’t see him at Turner Field”

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zing!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Contemplating job offers

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Aug 2, 2008 4:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lefty's

Soft tossing = no dice

Hard throwing = success

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by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i've always wondered why the Card hit guys

like the Big Unit so well, yet get beat game after game when they face the Moyer’s of the world.

it makes no sence.

of course we all saw what CC did to us last week too.

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by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Note

Scrap the overflow…just stay on this thread for the time being.

by azruavatar on Aug 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dont walk this guy Kyle

dont!

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by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

he didn’t walk him

by ViperLjs on Aug 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good

I’d rather they have to hit their way on any time.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ufb

loses no-hitter to pitcher

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by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lucky

and losing it

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by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what did dan mean,

“pitch count ALREADY at 71”? he was almost through the 5th – that’s pretty efficient.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unfortunately unless he starts having really extremely efficient innings

there is no way he can make it through 9

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i mean, sure

but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been efficient. 9 innings isn’t exactly a fair standard. unless dan was talking in the context of a possible no-hitter, i guess.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so i just get home

and joey bombs strikes again…...NICE

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So if Lohse pitches a 3-hitter tonight

and goes seven innings, does he get a 3-year deal like Pinata?

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pinata

Pinata sucked last year, despite that one good outing. Lohse has been a solid #2 type this whole year so far.

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by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and while Lohse is durable, lacking a real injury history

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it'll be a nice 1-2-3 punch

when Wainer comes back

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Loop looks alright behind those three as a #4

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no doubt

no doubt

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly my point

He needs to be signed, and during the damn season before everyone else gets their hooks into him.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hooks

Boras already has his firmly planted in Lohse’s pocket

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

but I think Lohse wants to be in St. Louis. He’s tired of doing one-year gigs.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

one year gig?

He’s going to get 4 years – 48-50 million at this point

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by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

He’s been with a different team four years in a row. And he can thank $cott Bora$ for all that packing and moving, since he’s the one who advocates players go year to year to maximize his, e, I mean the player’s take. The jerk.

Anyway, why not three years with STL for $12 million per? Sounds about right—about what Suppan got. Lohse is maybe a little better than Soupcan, though perhaps with more room to regress to his mean. And he also has won any big playoff games that I can recall. I would consider that a pretty fair deal.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 2, 2008 2:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DeWitt doesn't have that kinda money

Pinata 7.5M for 3 wins

Lohse 13 wins—you do the math

signed,
S. Boras

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i must have been the bad luck

i get home and turn the game on…...a hit occurs…....and the no no i didnt know about is over

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Curious

Did those 3 ER that Tony and Co contested on Lohse’s stats stick? The ones where they thought Ryan made an error (at 3rd if I recall correctly).

Is 3.55 with those 3? (not that they’d mean a whole lot, but still)

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, they stuck

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by 82Special on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ahh, I thought Thudwick was the 0-4 with 4Ks...wick

Thud doesn’t mean what I think it means

That version would be Dudwick then?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dudwick is the guy who goes 0-4

I always thought Thudwick was the homer hitting Ludwick

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by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i guess it makes sense both way

the ball when it hits the bullpen goes “thud”

or his stroke goes “thud”

I like your version better

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did you see his numbers for July

324 ba, I had no idea he was that good in July

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by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now hitting .301

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

luddy bomb

nice

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by ihavebadknees on Aug 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yessir!!!

The only game in town

by rebrak on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love multiple HR games

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

luddites rejoice

for the 24th time!

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by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

#24!!!!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wouldnt that be nice

I mean NICE?!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was JUST thinking that.

how many 30-hr guys for the cards this year? i vote 4.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs