Philadelphia Phillies @ St. Louis Cardinals GameThread, Aug 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT

is my buddy from Texas who likes to get drunk a lot and is on my bowling team. when he gets a strike, he says “Even a blind monkey can find a banana”. I don’t know anyone else who says that

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh crap

hamels is homer prone though. I want to see Glaus break outta that slump

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why "oh crap"?

that is a good thing, no?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bear down Kyle

get this guy!

Well, that aint how its supposed to go.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh shit

time for some gameday action.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I might have to switch

from MLB.tv to gameday. Seems like the signal keeps running away and locking my feed up.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

same here

it is really pissing me off

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Azru (or anyone)

did you calculate the results from that poll last week?
I was out of town, I might have missed it

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The group think on the last 58 games was 32 wins resulting in an 89-73 record. Surprisingly optimistic given the results of the last 4 games, imo.

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/7/25/578778/game-105-open-thread-july

by azruavatar on Aug 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, and I was here

I guess I was just too excited waiting for Carp’s rehab start.

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, You May Not,

Mr. Howard!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

did you just give up on mlb. tv?

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no

I went to the 1.2M feed and I havent had anymore problems. I might be a tic behind the rest of yall, but I get to see the game.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Settle down Kyle

get out of this inning unscathed.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good job Kyle

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so much for the braves helping us out

brewers up 6 to 0

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Boo bitter beer makers!

Hooray for strikeouts!

Good K pitch right there Kyle.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least he walked Howard

Good job Kyle!!

by KYCards on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Do we have the most inefficient starting staff in baseball?

25 pitches already for Lohse.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He'll settle down

patience, young padwan, patience.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

heh

yeah, Lohse is a slow starter. he locks in a little bit after he’s throwin

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

all in all a good first inning

Kyle needs to get his pitch count way down though

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Now we watch as Cole Hamels throws < 10 pitches in his half.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i do not like your attitude sir

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least he hasn't called "Game Over"

yet.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why would I say that?

We’re going to win this game. I’m just pointing out that Cole Hamels will be very efficient.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Take a number!

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Ha!

nice.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

10 pitches

thats still enough to score 7 runs. Provided 1-7 can hit back to back to back to back to back to back to back solo shots.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that'd be like a record or something

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

a very sweet record

at that.

dont think its gonna happen though.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Albert is doing his best to make my prediction correct

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn he juuuuuuuuuust missed that one

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

C'mon Bomberman!

1-0 right here.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thatll work

I mustve given the wrong sign. He thought I said “1B right here”... My fault.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Homeplate umpires hate Troy Glaus

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

troy glaus hates troy glaus right now too

he’s really pissed he didn’t destroy that pitch

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's pissed EVERY time he flies out

never have I seen a guy get so angry EVERY at bat that he makes an out. You’d think the guy was hitting .900 with as angry as he gets.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i look at it like this, at least he cares

would you rather have a guy like manny who could care less if he hit or not?

or a guy like troy who very much so cares if he hits or not?

i’ll take a team full of troy’s over a team full of manny’s any day of the week.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not saying I mind

I like that he has that competitive streak in him.

I just find it funny.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Troy

would get better calls if he stopped dropping the F-bomb every time he gets called out on strikes.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mr. Santa,

please can we have 3 presents?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm fully aware wins are a pretty meaningless

stat with pitchers in general

but it’s outright amazing that Lohse needs to win today and the next game just to hit .500 for his career.

and that would be 14-3 for this year.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Depends on the pitcher

I think Bob Gibson’s wins were pretty much due to Bob Gibson.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well true, but it’s not often that a pitcher has to go 14-3 just to have a career win record @ .500

oh, and does it (which yeah, has yet to be seen)

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lohse is either a late bloomer

a convert to Duncanism or a statistical anomaly. If we sign him after the season, I hope he’s a late bloomer, since Duncan may retire soon, and we already have one statistical anomaly in the rotation.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll call late bloomer

just for the hell of it

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno...

He wasn’t able to keep from losing though. In his great year, he still lost 9 games

22-9 is hardly a bad record, but at the same time, you have to wonder, how do you lose 9 games with an era of 1.12?

by DiscoJer on Aug 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sometimes I doubt your commitment to sparkle motion

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

<10

pitches for Kyle this inning.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

not a good start

6 on the first batter

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

9 pitches - 2 outs

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Livan Hernandez

He got released today. Anyone interested in giving him a shot?

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

do we have to pay any of his salary?

if not, sure. he can’t be any worse than Pinata

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good point

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last I checked his ERA was over 7 or something.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if Pinata pitched in the AL, his probably would be also

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

with all of our pitching injuries sustained

of course we’re going to have a guy like Pineiro. at least he’s a starter… our other 3, Looper, Welley, and non-major leaguers, aren’t really supposed to be starters.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's actually 5.48 this season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?statsId=5734

I think he’d be worth a shot. Look at his stats from 2006, when he got traded to Arizona. His numbers were pretty ugly with Washington but got a whole lot better once he was with a better team.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if Duncan converts that guy to a good pitcher

he really would deserve to go into the hall of fame. doesn’t ol’ Livan give up a lot of home runs?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

18 HR in 139.2 IP this year

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

pretty average i guess

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not really

always thought that guy was overrated, even when he was good

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

are you saying you don't enjoy his 60 mph eephus?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no

he has been absolutely terrible this year.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Much better inning Lohse

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

by cardsgirl95 on Aug 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he located his pitches

by 916baller on Aug 1, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

14 pitches, a lot better. though the pitch count test will reappear when it’s against the top of the order..

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

HA!

Dan: “I think Im following you, Al.”

Al: “Good for you. Nobody else is.”

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i like dan...

but he loves to bring up “bad blood” at every opportunity and it gets old…

by LukeMP1186 on Aug 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Something looks wrong

with Hamels’ delivery.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tell that to our hitters

"A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while."- Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh

by CurtainCall on Aug 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

looks fine to me

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

n/m

I thought I was seeing something different with the first 3 pitches of the Molina AB. i dont think its anything though.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

let's go Yadi

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So Schumaker will lead off the third

So much for batting last.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

nice move Tony

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

double lead off

working to perfection.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It wouldn't trouble me if he let the pitcher bat ninth

when it’s Lohse or Pinata. Neither one can get a hit to save their hides, notwithstanding Pinata’s double last night.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but yeah

it has worked out so far tonight!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I liked the Haray Carey impression there

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

just got here

what’d i miss?

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Defeatism

from Raconteur. No sightings of westcoastbirdwatcher. Other than that, nothing.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

defeatism, really?

just because he thought Hamels was going to be efficient after Lohse wasn’t?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wcbw

doesn’t really post in gamethreads, at least that i can remember

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Phew

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lohse

thank you

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm guessing the next time I'll be able to watch a game

is when we play the cubbies

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Too bad Skip can't hit LHP

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe with the day off

he’ll do some clutch hitting

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Skip with a nice leadoff hit there

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If we had Chase Utley

we would be in first place.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

or if we had a closer...

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and the phillies wouldn't

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's a gift

Walking Iznot.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

can't let him off the hook again though

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OPB machine = Iz2

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hamels is rattled

by our awesome lineup.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

looking more likely

as the inning progresses

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yahoo

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Joey Bombed!

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WAY TO GO JOE!!!

by 1brdon on Aug 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

MATHER!!!!!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bombs Away!!!

by stlhulsey on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dear Mo:

In case you missed the message last night:

Joe Mather is better than C Duncan.

VEB fans

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

where's HCL when you need him?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Clean base club!

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

future right fielder

by 916baller on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

omg

I am in love with Joe Mather

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Finally some power

vs. LHP

That’s what we need.

by enoscountry on Aug 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

our new #2!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

man

Albert got robbed there!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh how I love playing teams with iffy defense

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yadi!

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

love those productive outs

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good job Yadi

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think when Ankiel gets back...

I’d like to see Skip sit and Mather play.

Skip’s finally proved he can hit major league pitching, but he just doesn’t have the power to be a full time corner outfielder.

by DiscoJer on Aug 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

whatever the solution

It is a good problem to have

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

we’ve had the terrible problem all season now!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully Tony thinks the same way

if that happens , does it mean Miles is the new leadoff hitter?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no

it means skip is the new second baseman

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really hope we can pull that one off

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We really do have an excess of good outfielders

which should make it real interesting to see when Colby will get his call

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as I hate to say it

I doubt that happens this year. I agree though, it will make for an interesting spring next year

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

considering that Colby got injured it pretty much puts the wrap on him coming up this year! which is ok with me considering that the outfield is not the problem

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sit skip generally on LHP

and then rotate him for some more playing time with the other three

Mather may become over exposed.
We know Luddy has overexposed issues from time to time
Rick is an injury risk.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

we still need to platoon the OF

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

platooning our outfield has worked very well for us this year

especially because it makes the guys play even harder when they get their time out there. And although I am a big Tony critic he does do a very good job at getting his players playing time and keeping them fresh

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’d agree with that all but
the 5th OF generally
Ryan when no one is injured

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hear you

especially when one of those guys in the shift was the illustrious Chris Duncan

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

I’m talking we should have a 4 man platoon, well until Barton is back anyway

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

great inning guys

go do your job Lohse

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

pitching

Hamels is at 49 thru 4

Lohse is at 50 thru 4

Seems to be a pretty good night for Kyle so far. Here’s to him keeping it down.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I meant 3

not 4

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank goodness!

MLB doesn’t have Dane Cook on their ” There is only one October” commercials

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

you need to scream it

and not be funny

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that dude is the worst popular comedian ever

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

off topic

Raconteur, or anyone who was talking about fantasy books last week… what was that series that was supposed to be better than the George RR Martin series?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Steven Erikson's The Malazan Book of the Fallen

or Robert Jordan’s A Wheel of Time were the two I recall being referenced.

by azruavatar on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks

it was The Malazan

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

holy cow

that ball that Howard hit was in the air forever

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That Ryan Howard is a rough lookin' dude!

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

.985 OPS

what Mather was doing before tonight since starting full time SSS warning

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

can Mather play shortstop is my question

j/k

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dont know

he seems awfully tall for a SS.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if he was a SS

would we have the tallest SS and 3B in the game?

it would be close. Glaus is one tall boy

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

probably

I wouldnt think there would’ve been a taller left side of the infield ever.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that would be awesome

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

we’d catch a bunch of line drives that no one else could

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

9 pitch inning

nice

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lohse looking tough tonight

keep it up Kyle

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

great inning lohse

good play albert

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wow, 4-0 uh?

joey go boom? was it a GS?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

3 runner

then Yadi had a sac

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by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

3 run jack plus Yadi SF

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

3 run shot

by 916baller on Aug 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

joe "ducky" mather

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sweet, gracias every one. i'll be in & out all night long

joey go boom.

i likes it. i likes it a lot

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow

bobby patrino sitting in crappy seats

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i guess he's more of a tony fan

than tony is a bobby fan

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

aren't those the champions club seats?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

didn't look like it

but i could be wrong. regardless, the champs club is the single most amazing baseball experience i’ve ever had. it’s the only time i’ve ever been able to say i ate chicken marsala with a side of bratwurst at a ball game.

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that is what I thought

but I went back and looked . I think it said section 230…that would be the outfield loge box in the RF corner

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so he was in someone's luxury boxs seats then, right?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It looked like it

I would sit there!

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

f*ck arkansas

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey!

my mom’s from Arkansas & my grandparents live down there.

it’s not so bad. hot as hell though.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i meant specifically the university.

the rest of the state, i have no feelings about.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha, yeah, no worries

being from mizzou i hear all kinds of F Arkansas jokes. then when i tell people my moms from down there & i have a lot of family down there they back peddle so fast it makes my head spin.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jesse Todd

pitched there, too.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I loved Dan's line

“surprised we didn’t see him at Turner Field”

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Zing!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Contemplating job offers

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Aug 2, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lefty's

Soft tossing = no dice

Hard throwing = success

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Soft tossers in general

seem to spell doom for us.

by ViperLjs on Aug 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i've always wondered why the Card hit guys

like the Big Unit so well, yet get beat game after game when they face the Moyer’s of the world.

it makes no sence.

of course we all saw what CC did to us last week too.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Except for that big guy named

CC.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

exception

to every rule

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Note

Scrap the overflow…just stay on this thread for the time being.

by azruavatar on Aug 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dont walk this guy Kyle

dont!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well

he didn’t walk him

by ViperLjs on Aug 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good

I’d rather they have to hit their way on any time.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ufb

loses no-hitter to pitcher

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

scary

by azruavatar on Aug 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lucky

and losing it

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

P-F-P

always good

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

what did dan mean,

“pitch count ALREADY at 71”? he was almost through the 5th – that’s pretty efficient.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

unfortunately unless he starts having really extremely efficient innings

there is no way he can make it through 9

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i mean, sure

but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been efficient. 9 innings isn’t exactly a fair standard. unless dan was talking in the context of a possible no-hitter, i guess.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so i just get home

and joey bombs strikes again…...NICE

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So if Lohse pitches a 3-hitter tonight

and goes seven innings, does he get a 3-year deal like Pinata?

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lohse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pinata

Pinata sucked last year, despite that one good outing. Lohse has been a solid #2 type this whole year so far.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and while Lohse is durable, lacking a real injury history

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it'll be a nice 1-2-3 punch

when Wainer comes back

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Loop looks alright behind those three as a #4

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no doubt

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly my point

He needs to be signed, and during the damn season before everyone else gets their hooks into him.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hooks

Boras already has his firmly planted in Lohse’s pocket

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

but I think Lohse wants to be in St. Louis. He’s tired of doing one-year gigs.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

one year gig?

He’s going to get 4 years – 48-50 million at this point

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

He’s been with a different team four years in a row. And he can thank $cott Bora$ for all that packing and moving, since he’s the one who advocates players go year to year to maximize his, e, I mean the player’s take. The jerk.

Anyway, why not three years with STL for $12 million per? Sounds about right—about what Suppan got. Lohse is maybe a little better than Soupcan, though perhaps with more room to regress to his mean. And he also has won any big playoff games that I can recall. I would consider that a pretty fair deal.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 2, 2008 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

DeWitt doesn't have that kinda money

Pinata 7.5M for 3 wins

Lohse 13 wins—you do the math

signed,
S. Boras

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Scott: He's not even a .500 pitcher lifetime yet.

Sincerely,

Mo.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 2, 2008 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

holy crap, i didnt even realize Lohse was working on a no-no

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well, that's the end of that

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i must have been the bad luck

i get home and turn the game on…...a hit occurs…....and the no no i didnt know about is over

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Curious

Did those 3 ER that Tony and Co contested on Lohse’s stats stick? The ones where they thought Ryan made an error (at 3rd if I recall correctly).

Is 3.55 with those 3? (not that they’d mean a whole lot, but still)

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yes, they stuck

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone hitting it to the pitcher this inning

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

except Thudwick

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it would be Studwick in this case dude!

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ludwick the studwick

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no way, thudwick hits homers, studwick hits grand slams

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ahh, I thought Thudwick was the 0-4 with 4Ks...wick

Thud doesn’t mean what I think it means

That version would be Dudwick then?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dudwick is the guy who goes 0-4

I always thought Thudwick was the homer hitting Ludwick

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i guess it makes sense both way

the ball when it hits the bullpen goes “thud”

or his stroke goes “thud”

I like your version better

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

did you see his numbers for July

324 ba, I had no idea he was that good in July

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

now hitting .301

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

luddy bomb

nice

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How's the heat Hamels?

by azruavatar on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

haHAH!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yessir!!!

The only game in town

by rebrak on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I love multiple HR games

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

luddites rejoice

for the 24th time!

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

#24!!!!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

let's hope he gets hot and gets to his uni number

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldnt that be nice

I mean NICE?!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

was JUST thinking that.

how many 30-hr guys for the cards this year? i vote 4.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

depends on whether or not Ankiel gets back and healthy soon

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think he'll get there - just 8 more.

it’s glaus i think might fall short.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he only needs 8 though....

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What were you looking at Troy?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the lady in the white hat

he’s the anti-natural

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you guys think that Lohse's

improvement this year is sustainable?

I’m not sure, but his peripherals look good.

His FIP before tonight was 3.89, vs. an ERA of 3.68, so he’s not just getting lucky. He has a good GB rate at 49%, and BB to K rate is 32 to 72.

by ViperLjs on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't be against give him a 3 year / 35 million contract

not that he’d take one that small

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ludwick's ops in august is 3.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

what about Joey?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

2.3333

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

small sample size

:-D

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no way, it's clearly sustainable and he has become the greatest player of all time.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha, I wish victorino would've caught that ball

did he forget he was on base?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

which begs the question, if a baserunner picks up a ball while he is on base, is that an out?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

interference

i would think either the batter or the baserunner would be out

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes

if a baserunner picks up a ball in play, the baserunner is out. just like earlier when diaz had the ball careen off of his leg running down the 1b line, he was out.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boy that Utley is quite the stud!

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What the heck Mather?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

trying to play it off the wall

that was a hit no matter what

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea, at first i thought he just gave up on it

but there was nothing he could do

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

no way he can get over there

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't like where this inning is headed

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

of course you don't

by tomsteele on Aug 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

its gonna be alright

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

back to the dugout

quickly?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't like where this inning went

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Santana /KRod shut out NYY

1-0. Halos are tough.

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Angels are a buzz saw, best team in baseball by far.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and people in my fantasy league made fun of me

when i took k-rod in the fourth round

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

45 saves later

and someone is smilin.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

k-rod, wood and billy wagner

read ‘em and weep

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dont play fantasy baseball

but that sounds good to me.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

best team in baseball.

they might have been before tex, and i think they definitely are now.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow

I was gonna say that’s hard to do with that lineup, but that is the 7th time they’ve been shutout this year.
By comparison the Cardinals have been shutout twice, the Royals 8 times.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they've had some injuries.

and they’re just getting old. cano and melky haven’t stepped up either.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

great K pitch

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

BOOM

sit down, Ryan!!!

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

FB/Change

big K!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Happ

is throwing up in the bullpen.

Didnt we get to that guy last time we faced him and the Phils?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Freaking Lohse

running out of gas once again

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OUCH!!!

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

why that pitch

after all those nice pitches away. that pinieroesque

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he's missed locations (Victorino, Burrell)

getting tired? 90 pitches

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yikes!

Pat the Bat strikes.

Settle down, Kyle

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

aw hell

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that's a great card game

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Springer warming up

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good. Quick hook, please TLR

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

as well he should

knew with the hamel’s at bat he was done

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thus game just got a whole lot more interesting

lets hope tony pulls the right strings here

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

a little TOO interesting for me, thanks

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As I said before, not a big fan of where this inning was headed

he has completely run out of gas. just like against milwaukee

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

let's breathe through the third eye, Rac

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just pointing out, this has become a common theme for him

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, you're right

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

let the parade begin

The Thing That Should Not Be will be taking over shortly.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I thought we sent FloJo and KJ to Memphis already :)

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

true

just trying to fuze a little music into the thread.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dang, four XBH in this inning

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

kyle is a

5 inning all star

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think that is true about most pitchers against this lineup

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for giving our bullpen a break Lohse

or not…..

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

come on guys, this game is still in hand

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

have you watched many games this season?

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Aug 1, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh well, on the bright side

he’s becoming much more affordable.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Is it hard being that pessimistic?

Lighten up, dude. You’ll live longer.

by azruavatar on Aug 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lohse has never been a 100 pitch count guy anyways

and frankly our bullpen is rested, well as much as can be. Thanks to Thompson and Kelvin helping out the past two games

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Man, I wish our bullpen had someone like that ziegler kid from oakland

32 scoreless innings so far this year

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i never thought of that.

from now on mo should only sign relief pitchers that don’t give up any runs. someone should send him a memo!

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha!

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Aug 1, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

great article about him on Posnanski's blog today

http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/08/01/ziegler-directors-cut/

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey hey!!!

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

springer continues to amaze me.

he’s like 137 years old and still lights out, even if his innings are limited.

actually e'contending mang

by nycbirdo on Aug 1, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he's as good as the '07 Franklin

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and can still

bring some HEAT!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea

wonder if he wanted to be a fireman when he was a kid

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by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wish he could go more than 2/3 of an inning

But yah, he is a bad ass weapon to have out there in the pen when stuff gets hairy. He’s like a bucket of water on the opposition during a rally.

by cloistermaximus on Aug 1, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the league's first ROOGY

by vances law on Aug 1, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good work, Springs

now let’s get some more runs

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Im out, yall

Heres to a big W.

Yall have fun, and Go Cards!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 1, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

BrewCrew now up 9-0, top 8

Soup has a 5 hitter through 7.

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I love how Springer

comes in and restores order. Sometimes it only takes him one pitch! Not tonight, but still well done.

by cardsgirl95 on Aug 1, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

good as well

he good Ruiz so that Hamels’ spot didn’t come up in that inning.

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry "good" supposed to be "got"

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh Yadda

that was ball 4

at least you made it work for it.

the O has to get to him this inning

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My thoughts exactly.

by cardsgirl95 on Aug 1, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ryan PHing???

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

come on Boog

man that change up is nasty

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

missed a meatball there, Boog

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

man, this is gonna be scary if we cannot put a few more tallys up on that board

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sometimes i really hate the fans at Busch III

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i walked away

what did they do?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Garcia

1-2-3 inning

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

plz explain

by tomsteele on Aug 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the same people that to this day still scream for bo hart & stubby clap

to start as 2nd & SS gave So freakin Taguchi his 5th standing O this season. delaying the start of the inning for almost a full minute.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude, So deserves it

Billy Wagner, Game 2 my friend.

by cloistermaximus on Aug 1, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

to add

it’s not the same 40k in the stands each night, lots of people want to say thanks. he earned it

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's doesn't deserve 5

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice work Jamie

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

are you talking about the So Taguchi standing ovation

cus I had no problem with that

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good job Jaime

get him some runs please

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

BULLSHIT UTLEY

he leaned into that, what absolute bull

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

thats pretty effing weak

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by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

go out and argue that HBP Tony!

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

nice play albert!

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

niiiice

way to be Albert

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I still think Albert and Santa are going to win GG this year

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

always best to be lucky

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and man Jaime got a bit lucky there, he missed his location completely

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Burrell seems like a likable dude

I just wish he wouldn’t hit so damn many home-runs off our pitchers.

by cloistermaximus on Aug 1, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he looks like Ray Liotta, it's eery

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here we go

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

you took the words right out of my mouth

Tony was making the excuse that the reason Izzy has not been successful is because his role has not been clear! here we go big boy, shut them down

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh mercy,,,,

here comes a 4 out save for IZZY

every one hold on to your butts

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

TLR has no soul

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well he is a lawyer

nice K IZZY

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

at least he’s fresh.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

rusty

will be the call

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice job, Jamie

too bad we didn’t have you all year w/the big club instead of FloJo, KJ, etc.

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

do i hear boo's already?

did i mention how much i hate the crowd?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Now, that I agree with you on

Don’t fucking boo a guy who just came into the game. It isn’t like he walked anybody.

by cloistermaximus on Aug 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exciting, isn't it?

by Woodwork on Aug 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No worries, mates

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Credit where due

Very nice Izzy

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

BOOM

sit down Werth!!!

by tbell61 on Aug 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

very good pitch Izzy

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Way to go Izzy

3 more baby!

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

still a nervous nellie till it's over

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

at least it's against some weak guys

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Encouraging

Swinging strikeout on a pitch that was IN the strike zone. I like that.

by cloistermaximus on Aug 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

STUDWICK

by Phizzle on Aug 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

STUDWICK

Part Deux.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

his name is STUDWICK

and he hits home runs

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

luddites rejoice

for the 25th time

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ducky Ludwick

by MichiganBird on Aug 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Click, Click, Click, ....Click

BOOM!

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

exactly

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why no video on Gameday?

by MichiganBird on Aug 1, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

it takes a little while

by Phizzle on Aug 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but there's none

for the whole game…

by MichiganBird on Aug 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They're nudging traffic

Toward the 5 day mlbtv trial offer.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 1, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bastards

All I ask for in life is a little free stuff.

by MichiganBird on Aug 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That explains why MLB.tv sucks tonight

It keeps cutting out and stopping. Thanks a bunch mlb.com. Greedy so-and-so’s.

by cloistermaximus on Aug 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now, now

that doesn’t sound like the kind folks in charge of mlb broadcasting that I know…

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ludwick's AUG OPS=

3.5000!

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Supporting Cast

It’s great to see the cards put up 6 with AP going 0 for 4….

by duncans_army on Aug 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dan,

that is NOT a leadoff walk, thank you very much.

by Phizzle on Aug 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Definitely

a hell of a way to start off the month.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hopefully the dog days

will be thee bird days too

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yadda

infield hit master!

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yadi gets his revenge on Bruntlett

but in a very, very non-concussion-causing way.

by Phizzle on Aug 1, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yadda's been showcasing his wheels all week long

nicely done again Yadda

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Stack all of the runs you want boys

Izzy is still up for the save, and it’ll make it a lot easier to watch.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe not the greatest baserunning by Molina.

by etp_stl on Aug 1, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mini Me needs a vacation

come on IZZY, give your self some breathing room

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

is it reall prononcued

Hi-May Garcia?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes

it is, I believe.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks

didn’t know that I rarely get birdos games only if its on xm or occasionaly on MLBTV and that rotates announcers..got to here rooney and shannon tonight..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep

that’s how it’s pronounced in spanish.

by Phizzle on Aug 1, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup, if it's spelled jaime (though I've heard "HI-mee")

I knew a guy with that name. Really pissed him off when people called him “Jamie”

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

On to the ninth

Restore some order to our bullpen Izzy.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Did Tony forget how to double switch?

He did the same thing the other night, with the pitcher’s spot up late in the game.

by MichiganBird on Aug 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Franklin time

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Here comes the fun! Franklins ready everyone.......

by Woodwork on Aug 1, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Everybody

should go to mlb.com and vote for Santa as the July Clutch Player of the Month.

That is all.

by Phizzle on Aug 1, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

my computer really needs an overflow thread

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

di to the itto

come on IZZY,

no drama

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

as Ethan said

that’ll be the day

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excellent use of John Wayne reference.

by etp_stl on Aug 1, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, az said it was supposed to be up at 8:30

never showed

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he called it off

traffic was slow around 830

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my computer really needs an overflow thread

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

nice curve

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This save will be a long time coming

Yeah, I’m calling it. No franklins here

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

get it over, Izzy

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

so

what’s new iz?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Damn

ominous start to the inning.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

dp, plz

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's time

for Izzy to put up or shut up.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

0-2 on the first two batters

just needs to put ‘em away

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

cubs lose

brewers win

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I am going to throw up.

Is it still obligatory that Izzy issue a leadoff walk.

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he's become a nibbler over the past couple years

and really looks afraid to throw strikes

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok, that was better. nice k

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Alright

let’s get a quick DP and Franklins for everyone.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

one down.

dp, plz. No d#$n fielder indifference. Keep Brunlett close

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Have you guys ever noticed that Izzy has to load the bases and give us heart attacks before he ever gets out of the inning?

Seriously, that routine is getting boring.

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

especially when he loaded them... and then didn't get out of the inning anymore

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

are you serious when asking that question?

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by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1 more Izzy

please please please

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

one more IZZY

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

don’t give up the faith

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Allright Izzy, let's get an out.

There’s a nice pitch.

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

most exciting out in baseball, please

by tomsteele on Aug 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

after reyes, i mean

by tomsteele on Aug 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why's everyone booing?

Seems weird to me, but yet sensible.

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

they are the most annoying crowd of the year

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

everyone's conditioned to hate izzy now

by Phizzle on Aug 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Way to go. We really need a win.

The world could use mor STL wins. Cubs got shut out today. Yay!

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

post brew hangover

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the crowd is sitting do they know this is for 300?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

it's not like he hasnt been sitting on it forever

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

292?

well now 293

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he is still 8..now 7 away

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah dan made it sound liek he was at 300

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

IZZY is really over throwing some of his pitches

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It just wouldn't be right

if Izzy didn’t bring the tying run to the plate.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Izzy's velocity has dropped

and he can find the plate.

TLR’s gonna have to bring in Franklin

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

first strike was at 92 just now

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bad Izzy, bad

The only game in town

by rebrak on Aug 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

scary stuff

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know, you're right.

Full count now, MONEY PITCH!

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

YES!!!

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hallelujah!

Everybody: Breathe

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You've gotta be kidding me.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wth?

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

by riotmute on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

AND THAT'S A WINNER!!!!

nice game, good job IZZY, great job LUD

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

don't forget Jaime & Springer too

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by gocards62 on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok

The only game in town

by rebrak on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Phew

by WastedTalent on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

great, but

izzy remains his own worst enemy with his reluctance to throw strikes

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I bet that feels like

a thousand pounds off of Izzy’s back

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

good game

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yep

solid all across the board

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh dear Lord.

Good thing we have some insurance runs.
Oh, Izzy, please don’t blow this.

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't worry, it turns out alright.

by cloistermaximus on Aug 1, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're a little behind there fella

puppy perhaps?

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 1, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

gdm46

you notice when it showed them coming out for fives izzy was stretching that arm?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

no, sorry i did not

i got a phone call right as the game ended & missed everything.

what it a bad stretching? did he look hurt?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 2, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice Job Izzy

kinda…mostly?

Anyway. Nice win

Is that #62?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

62-50.

by iwannarock24 on Aug 1, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was a good game. Glad Ludwick hit those two homers, same to Mather.

We would be toast without Mather. Who here thinks he’s the real deal?

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i was ticked when they sent him down

when they called him up the first time..think they should let him stay a bi

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is a legitimate

power hitter. Whether he can field is another question.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HL brought up a good comparison

there is alot of similarities between Joe Mather and Alex Rios, and let’s face it, we’d all love to have our very own Alex Rios

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wasnt that 300 for izzy?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

no 293

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dan made it sound like he was like at 299

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just been a long time since he had one

may something

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Aug 1, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I WISH

then we could put that old dog out to pasture.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, #62.

We’re 4 back of the dreaded Cubbies.

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Izzy's stuff looked pretty good up there

I dont like the walk of Rollins, but that was typical Izzy. Walk a batter to get to the matchup you want (even though it burns him 9 out of 10 times lately)

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hard to believe he finally got a save.

by GibbytheDog on Aug 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Apparently Cole Hamels is the only tough lefty who doesn't give our O fits

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He has in the past,

but this year we have handled him both times we have seen him.

by cardsgirl95 on Aug 1, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It would be cool if everything just came together perfectly

Wainer back, Carp sharpens up in 2 starts, and Izzy gets it back together. With this rotation:

Carp
Wainer
Loshe (Good Version)
Welly (Good Version)
Loop

I’ll take my chances

by cloistermaximus on Aug 1, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pinata assumes the

Kelvim Jimenez spot on the bullpen bench.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

whose pinata?

im just glad the sent down diarhea(SP)

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 1, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Senor

Pineiro.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey i didn’t catch this game
who got the save?

by goblues on Aug 1, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Izzy

Four outs.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aaron Miles

struck out 4 hitters on 7 pitches

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't know if this has been mentioned but...

Duncan is undergoing season ending surgery. On a personal level, i feel bad for the kid, but on a baseball level, i’m glad. No longer will TLR have the option to put him in games.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ditto.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Any chance we'll re-sign Springer to another 1 or 2 year deal?

or do you think he’ll retire?

It’d be nice if he came back for one more year at 5 million or so.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 1, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's still mighty effective

I would say, yes he would come back, and yes we would offer him another 1-year deal.

by Red in Chicago on Aug 1, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anybody want a good laugh

Check out what the WWL thinks of the Cards in their “rankings”. Their pure disrespect and hate for such a historic team with the 2nd most Championships in the great game is pretty sad and it says a lot for what’s supposed to be “The world wide leader of sports media”.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/powerranking

by KYCards on Aug 2, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So, how exactly do ...

the NY teams, the DBacks, the Marlins, and the Tigers get ranked ahead of the Cardinals. The Tigers are two f’in’ games above .500, for cryin’ out loud. How are the Brewers ranked 5 spots ahead? They have virtually the same record. It’s crazy.

It goes along with Peter Gammons championing himself and Buster Olney for being the only two to let people know there is baseball between the coasts just because he mentions the Twins every third time he is interviewed.

by etp_stl on Aug 2, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh

btw, are you talking about the ranking or the comments? Cause the comments aren’t that bad. Besides, those rankings are so influenced by the past week (one in which they got swept by the Brewers, got beat by the mets and beat up on a really bad Braves team). I wouldn’t put much into it, plus like has been said before. the more the national eye looks past the Cardinals, the better right?

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 2, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm talking about the ranking

but being tied with the 2nd best record in the NL should put us in 14th place in baseball??

I don’t get offended by this as much as I should but ESPN’s pure hatred for the Cardinals is really weird. I really don’t get it. Do they just hate the fact that a team other than the Yankees has had a lot of success in post season with the number of Championships won or is there some other motive?

by KYCards on Aug 2, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

$$$$$$$

It’s as simple as that. If the Cards played in a huge media market, they’d get all the attention. I try not to let it bother me. It’s more enjoyable to go under the radar. Then again, if you live outside the FSN viewing area, I can understand how it would be bothersome.

by jdub176 on Aug 2, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i feel bad for those that have to depend on the WWL

for their baseball coverage. unless its a coast team or the flubs, dont even bother watching because they generally dont have a clue when it comes to fly over state teams.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 2, 2008 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't take 'em seriously

that doesn’t mean we’re going to lose anyways

by goblues on Aug 2, 2008 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Izzy getting boo'd

who is to blame for this? He was getting boo’d pretty hard a Busch Stadium tonight. When he came in, boos. When he would throw a ball, boos. When a runner got on, boos. When he came to bat, boos.

So, who is to blame for the general disdain the Cardinals fans have for Isringhausen? Is it Izzy for sucking so bad this season? LaRussa for trotting him out there when he wasn’t ready? The fans for not forgiving him for trying to give away the division this year?

Something else that bothered me. Dan and Al were rambling on and on about HOW COULD YOU TAKE IZZY OUT FOR A PH!!! IT WOULD COST HIM THE SAVE!

Technically, if Miles had bunted the runners over, a pinch hitter came in for Izzy and got a sacrifice fly and we went up 4 runs…wouldn’t Izzy still get the save?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 2, 2008 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I didn't get to watch most of the game

but I’m confused by that last sentence.

If Izzy were to be pinch hit for, no matter what, he wouldn’t get a save since he didn’t finish the game. You have to finish the game.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 2, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're right

I thought Villone didn’t finish the game the other day and still got the save. I guess Cpt. Ron did get the final 4 outs.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 2, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the crowd was a joke all night long

you are dead on about how they treaded IZZY. it was a pretty pathetic showing by “the best fans in baseball”

i really want that BS to stop. any fans that give so freaking taguchi a standing O every time he comes to the plate are not any where close to being the best fans in baseball.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 2, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was at the game

The crowd wasn’t booing Izzy, we felt he wasn’t getting calls he should have been getting. The people in my section were behind Izzy all the way, as I would assume most of the crowd was. We understood that Izzy would need to get multiple baserunners on before he could convert the save. The entire stadium stood and clapped for the final two outs of the game. I don’t understand how that makes them BS fans or “a joke”. Also, applauding So Taguchi is the kind of thing that sets the Cardinals’ fan base apart from the real BS fans who don’t understand anything about baseball.

by Turkatron on Aug 2, 2008 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs