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Game 92 Open Thread- 9th July, 2008

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Mulder                    J.A. Happ

0-0, 13.50                0-0, 3.86

I don't really have any kind of detailed analysis to offer all of you tonight. I can tell you that Happ has walked more batters (4), than he has struck out (3). He's only thrown 4.2 innings, though, so it's tough to really draw many conclusions from that.

As for Mulder, I don't know what to say. I guess we'll all just have to hope for the best.

Good luck, Mark. Let's see if you've got anything left.

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this looks like a game that could have a lot of runs scored.

it’ll probably turn out to be a 1-0 game though, baseballs screwy like that

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 9, 2008 6:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Lineups per STLtoday.com

STL

Schumaker LF
Ludwick RF
Pujols 1B
Glaus 3B
Ankiel CF
Miles 2B
LaRue C
Mulder P
Izturis SS

PHI

Rollins SS
Victorino CF
Utley 2B
Howard 1B
Burrell LF
Werth RF
Feliz 3B
Ruiz C
Happ P

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 9, 2008 6:46 PM EDT   0 recs

If the Phils...

are ever going to post another 20 spot on us, tonight is the night.

by guayzimi on Jul 9, 2008 6:48 PM EDT   0 recs

i doubt it.

i don’t think tlr would leave mulder out to dry like that. if he gives up 6 runs in 3 innings or something, he’ll be out of there.

the phils could put up 10, but not 20.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 9, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

20 runs...

Makes me think of this Mulder start: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA200606200.shtml

That was such a painful series…..

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by ChiTown CardFan on Jul 9, 2008 7:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

tlr confirms (on the radio) that he will have a quick hook, bringing in thompson or someone else

by NorseKaiser on Jul 9, 2008 7:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What would Mulder have to do?

In order to take his comeback seriously?

by Harknights on Jul 9, 2008 6:48 PM EDT   0 recs

i'd take 5 ip, 3 er, or 6 ip, 4 er

that’d be a not-good-but-serious start.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 9, 2008 6:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't really have any justification for it,

but for some reason I’m feeling optimistic about Mulder’s start tonight. Obviously not 10 inning shutout optimistic, but something on the order of five innings, two earned runs optimistic.

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 9, 2008 6:49 PM EDT   0 recs

I wish I could agree with you

It’s possible, I just cannot see it happening

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 9, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i'm with lboros

i have absolutely no idea what to think about this game. i know i’m not confident, but it’s really hard for me to have any prediction at all.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 9, 2008 6:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not optimistic either

but we need to know. I’m glad he’s starting. My heart will be in my throat.

by the Tewk on Jul 9, 2008 6:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with lboros'

post from last week on Mulder. Unless he can get the ball down with that new arm slot he is in real trouble.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 9, 2008 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

indeed.

i guess the capital letters should have tipped me off.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 9, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, it's probably just foolish optimism

Like I said, I don’t really have any sound reason for feeling that way – just my gut, which historically hasn’t really been a good predictor of anything except my need to eat. And it’ll just be that much more painful for me if he crashes and burns tonight….

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 9, 2008 6:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hoping for

5 innings, Mulder leaves with the lead, bullpen holds on for him to get the win
probably 7-6

the pessimistic side is worried he wont record an out and get hit hard by about 7 Phils before we go to the pen

by vances law on Jul 9, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This sure does sound like a loss.

But, I guess that’s why they play the games. The Phils offense got shutdown last night. No way they do again. As for Mulder, I wish I could be more optimistic, but I’m saying he doesn’t make it into the 4th, and we’ll be down by 5 or 6.

by mikeonthecards on Jul 9, 2008 6:53 PM EDT   0 recs

I think Orel just had his info wrong

He was cleared to throw yesterday, no?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 9, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that isn't today

so they are both right. Sneaky Orel

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 9, 2008 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

According to ESPN

A-Rod zones out when they play a Madona song at his gym.

Hehe. Sorry. I don’t know. Just Monday he was clear to start light throwing. They just announced yesterday.

by Evilfrog on Jul 9, 2008 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sure ESPN is often right...

but I never believe what they say until it is cross-verified elsewhere

by the Tewk on Jul 9, 2008 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

From Derrick Goold:

“It has been nearly 25 months since Mark Mulder’s last victory, and even longer since the last time he registered an out in the sixth inning or had a quality start.”

Yippee!!!

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 9, 2008 6:57 PM EDT   0 recs

game start pushed back to 7, 7:30 CT because of rain

by NorseKaiser on Jul 9, 2008 6:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Boo rain

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 9, 2008 6:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no idea….john said that the rain was starting to let up…...there was still a lot of water on the field, but he said it should dry soon

so not sure what the wait is…..

by NorseKaiser on Jul 9, 2008 7:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

think of this, tho

if Mulder goes five strong, and shows no ill effects afterward… doesn’t that BEGIN to chip away at the CC and Harden deals?

by the Tewk on Jul 9, 2008 6:59 PM EDT   0 recs

this season has been so good because of the surprises so far

mulder could be one of them…..certainly the biggest one so far…...but it could happen

by NorseKaiser on Jul 9, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

um. No

well unless you mean like chipping away at solid steel with a putty knife. Then yes.
I might be a little too pessimistic

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 9, 2008 7:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah no...

have you seen the A’s roster recently? Half of it came from the Mulder deal.

by guayzimi on Jul 9, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dammit

ESPN coverage is blacked out, and FSN is not airing in HD. =(

by arfuze300 on Jul 9, 2008 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

According to someone on the STLToday forums

Orel Hershiser said that Waino has NOT been cleared to throw.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 9, 2008 7:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Damnit

someone already posted this, sorry

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 9, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tonight's win probabilities

Source: Fave/Win%/Total combined runs scored

LV Hilton: PHI / 60.78% / 10.5
AccuScore: PHI / 58.00% / 10.7
My Simulator: PHI / 54.49% / 10.42

vr, Xeifrank

by Xeifrank on Jul 9, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

so we're starting this at least an hour late?

I might be able to get home in time to watch this sucka

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 9, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

good, or bad?

guess a bad day of baseball is better than a good day of work, eh?

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 9, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm at the ol' night job right now

so since it’s on ESPN, I suppose that I would want it to be postponed until at least 9pm, at least that’s what’s good for me.

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 9, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Got some nice odds from the bookies tonight

so I’m going to have a blast, don’t mind losing some coin if Mark decides to pull one out of his ass though.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 9, 2008 7:25 PM EDT   0 recs

If Sabathia and Harden...

are worth 2-3 wins, we could acquire Bonds for nothing but money, use Skippy or Duncan to acquire a reliever, and get those 2-3 wins back in short order.

Just sayin’...

by guayzimi on Jul 9, 2008 7:26 PM EDT   0 recs

12 more minutes!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 9, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

7:45 eastern

6:45 central

it always confuses me too

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 9, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

perhaps Keith Hernandez

should just stick with selling “Just for Men” ??

by the Tewk on Jul 9, 2008 7:33 PM EDT   0 recs

espn would rather have you...

discuss mustache day at yankee stadium. I mean, the lead story at five should always be about a teams promotion.

"You cannot fully understand the relations of choice and time until you are beyond both."

-cs lewis

by Crentist on Jul 9, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’d rather be at mustache day then hear the national anthem by that chick again

by bmoorelikealbert on Jul 9, 2008 7:43 PM EDT   0 recs

+1

god that was awful…like the rejected american idol contestants.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 9, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

lets jump on these jokers early

give mulder some breathing room

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 9, 2008 7:47 PM EDT   0 recs

i can't believe i'm actually excited, anxious & a little nervious about this game

damn you Marky Mark & your Funky Bunch for getting my hopes up

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 9, 2008 7:48 PM EDT   0 recs

+1

I’m all a-jittery.

by peach concrete on Jul 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Me too

I have my Mulder-aid poured. Cheers!

by Evilfrog on Jul 9, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Man I hope they

keep skip around He’s really a gamer

by bmoorelikealbert on Jul 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Not so nice

K there Ludwick.

by Evilfrog on Jul 9, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

88 MPH fastball, 78 MPH Changeup

Man our guys should be able to slaughter that…I hope so atleast, but those soft tossing lefties…

by StLHugo on Jul 9, 2008 7:52 PM EDT   0 recs

fatal combination for us :(

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by gocards62 on Jul 9, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

we are above .500

This year against lefties. At least last time I checked.

by Evilfrog on Jul 9, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

every this is up too

LUD just struck out on a pitch at his neck

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 9, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This guy is throwing everything high

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by gocards62 on Jul 9, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is this thing on

Im surprise this place isn’t on fire with Mulder starting.

by Evilfrog on Jul 9, 2008 7:53 PM EDT   0 recs

waiting with abated breathe

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 9, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

any reason why

espn is still showing pregame?

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 9, 2008 7:53 PM EDT   0 recs

my WWL is live

you watching on a DVR?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 9, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

to be fair, is there a good version now a days?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 9, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hmmm

good point. although an argument could be made for a better version than the one barry whiteteeth has, which would be one that has the game on…..but I think you’re right.

by Tackle Box on Jul 9, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

espn

Classic? At least when they are showing the Rams Vs Titans Superbowl!

by Evilfrog on Jul 9, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you in FSN Midwest area?

You might be blacked out on ESPN tonight if you are

by StLHugo on Jul 9, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that might explain it

StL here. Game is not on FSN hi def though…. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

by Gregatron on Jul 9, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you're right

About blackout. I guess I’ll have to do without Joe Morgan’s wisdom for another week…

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 9, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he not working tonight

it’s dan & orel right?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson