Game 90 overflow thread
by lboros on Jul 6, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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Printwelley at 68 pitches through 4 innings . . . . . it's still a struggle for him. for the cardinal bats, too.chicago 2 stlouis 0 heading into the 5th.
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Not a good start toward taht goal
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
What is it about below average leftys like Marshall
that gives the Cards such a fit. His stuff isn’t that good and they are making solid contact, but they can’t seem to get any runs on the board.
At least it was high enough that Mather fooled the runner on 2b
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Shannon is pissed
about the All-Star Team, isn’t he? Still going on about it
by thisgirllovesbaseball on Jul 6, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
We could use it
but since Ramirez hits 1.4748754 at Busch Stadium, not likely.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we thinking of the same
Chris Duncan?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's remembering that play from like the first week of the season where Duncan did just that
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
LOL!!!
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 6, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like everyone else is watching a different game
That ball was 2 inches from being a HR. How in the world was Mather to blame on that play?
Then Ankiel very nearly throws a guy out at 3rd. I’d say it was a hell of a job to get out of a bases-loaded, no outs situation with only one run.
it was good to get out of that
Mather didn’t put himself in position to make a play on that ball. He might not have caught it. But if he took a good route he would have had a much better chance.
Mather played like 4 different positions as he came up through the minors
I saw him myself in Springfield. I don’t think he has a ton of experience in Left field. Even so, he just barely missed snagging that ball. It’s one thing if you say that you think she should’ve caught the ball. Its quite another to assume that Duncan would’ve made that play, or somehow missed the play with more grace or something.
I don’t understand the mentality that every one of our players is expected to play like a hall-of-famer 100% of the time.
I dont have a problem with players making a mistake
People just kept telling me that Mather is better than Duncan. I haven’t seen it yet. Let’s see how Mathers bat does here. Runner at 3rd. All he needs is a fly ball.
Yeah
This is a frustrating game. Wellemeyer really seems to be pitching better than the score.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
problem is
only the cubs are scoring. he’s sorta doing his job against a very powerful offense. Problem is our offense hasn’t arrived at the ballpark just yet.
Nice DP
but Welley is simply way too hittable right now. Put the guy on the 15 day DL and let him rest his arm/elbow.
boo cubs, hooray beer
he's pitched fine
they are getting only singles, and many on the ground. Plus he’s throwing strikes. I think he’s just been unlucky and somewhat rusty. Pitched better than most of our other starters.
nice DP there...
now SCORE SOME RUNS. grr.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
of course
that’s the only team that matters, or has espn not told you that yet?
by barry whiteteeth on Jul 6, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is cute
that the Red Sox are letting the Rays have first for alittle while.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah...
well, I almost expect it against the Rays…you definitely know they’ll be on all 4 games v. the Yanks…but they are subjecting the world to the Orioles…c’mon. Isn’t there a Colorado/KC game on or something?
from your lips to his bat
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 6, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What does Ryan offer that Kennedy or Izturis doesn't?
He hits as bad as both of them, and is worse defensively
boo cubs, hooray beer
it would be a bad move to put the pitcher in iz2's spot
kinda defeats the purpose of the double switch.
Ask not what your ballclub can do for you
ask what you can do for your ballclub.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Mather home run here
please.
okay I’ll take a hit or a grounder to the right side even.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
Seeing that comment enabled me to envision the swing at a low curveball a few seconds later
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Soft tossing lefties....
Do all soft tossing average lefties take 3 minutes between pitches? I would not hit well either…I’d be asleep at the plate…
Only we could make Sean Marshall look like a legitimate major league pitcher
ugh…
boo cubs, hooray beer
I don't understand why hitters don't
move up on the plate and in the box. Make the guy pitch inside.
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This is going to be funny sad when Sean Marshall throws a CG Shutout against us
boo cubs, hooray beer
The sad thing is that I bet we are making Sean Marshall
think he doesn’t suck. Just wait till he faces the next team they play. Then the joke will be on him!
they say he's a nutcase
on Cubs sportsradio – doesn’t trust his stuff and reads a lot of mental confidence books on the bus.
Hopefully they'll retaliate
so we can get some baserunners w/o having to pray for more bloop doubles
Ok, a strikeout
I was afraid we were getting the good ol’ “paint splatter” Perez today
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Okay
Now lets get some runs. Im looking at you Glaus. Did anyone else notice that he is wearing Dee Googles again?
You would almost think
that they never treated him like crap and then fired him.
Did the Cubs have a shift on against Pujols?
Fontenot seems kind of far over on that play
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Hopefully this will be like yesterday,
where Ank’s 6th inning HR woke up the bats a bit.
(Hopefully it won’t involve a 2 run HR by Ramirez though…)
i'm a little (a lot) late to the party here
can someone give me a 2 sec version of what’s happened so far?
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 6, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
Cubs = bloop singles
Cardinals = Sean Marshall’s dream lineup (except the Luddy hr)
by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Welly was fine for the most part
scattered 9 hits (8 singles) over 5 innings.
Cardinal hitters have either seemed mystified by Marshall’s curve or have hit it right at fielders. For some reason, it seemed like too many opposite field fly balls against this type of pitcher.
What happened to the curveball
Dave Duncan was making him throw?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I wasn't impressed due to the amazing build-up it's gotten?
That just looked like a decent slider.
Why pitch Lee away?
He has no bat speed left. Bust him in all day.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
alright
we got three innings to work with. that’s a run an inning.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 6, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
complements of mcdonalds
I think we need some ronald mcdonald rally action…...
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I do too
as long as Miles avoids the DP here.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Good
that was a productive strike out.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
one soft-tossing LHP
replacing another. Cotts’ is lobbing it up there
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It's quite impressive
he looks like if he made contact, it would travel for days.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they had called up Mather
instead of May-ther
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
I dont know
I can’t find his splits. But a .199 batting average would suggest he couldn’t hit anything really.
Got screwed by his manager
only hit him against lefties which is why TLR now dispises the reverse-split.
Other than Wood in the 9th yesterday
we have been pathetic this series
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
great
now AP leads off the next inning.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 6, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
We are going to be fortunate to only lose a game in the standings if this holds up
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5 now
Glad the Cubs fans can enjoy the Cubs kicking our backsides in Busch again this year.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
so we need
a starter, or two. a reliever, or two. and a bat.
+1
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by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 6, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
grrrrrrrrrrr....
i hate the diaper wearing bears…
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 6, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
What, straight back
with the ball smoked over his head?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how Soto is 'great homegrown talent'
the guy was a forgettable prospect who found ‘something’ last year in AAA.
Jumped from 6
to 26 HRs in 1 year at AAA.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
btw
what’s up with cub catchers beatin up on the cardinals. michel barrett and now soto.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 6, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
everything up up up.
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by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 6, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Just about to write the same thing!
More than a starter? Or a middle infield bat?
by six on Jul 6, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I am thinking Middle infielder
I know it is nothing new and wont happen, but how much better would or lineup look with Brian Roberts right now?
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by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 6, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
who would win in a race from 2B
Yadi or Ward?
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
Wasn't his fault
Pujols didn’t cover first very quick.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols???
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Pujos was floating to the bag about 1 foot away and Springer rushed the throw.
Springer wanted to throw the ball hard and I think Albert expected an easy throw leading him to the bag
do you have any idea how often infielders throw the ball before
the 1st baseman is actually in place?
Exactly
if Duncan had been in LF, that wouldn’t have happened.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the Cards really don't lose/gain any ground this series so that's fine.
The Cubs should have swept the Cards…....
They lost a game
and by the time they play Tuesday, they could be in 3rd place.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course it is
but loses to the Cubs cost 2 games in the standings and those start to add up. Especially since they have more games in Wrigley vs the Cubs left than at Busch.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah,
but we haven’t won very many games at Wrigely.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
to restate the obvious
we need BP help and another bat to catch these guys
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I guess I get confused around here
keeping the people who think we should be pushing for the cubs and the people who think we should be focusing on the Brewers straight.
Those aren't mutually exclusive
since we are playing the Cubs right now and those games still count.
We’ve already thrown games away vs the Brewers.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Brad Thompson is pitching
that can’t be a good sign
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
hush your mouth
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Mather
Doesn’t really have much of an arm, does he? That throw looked like it couldn’t have turned a double play with Yadi running from home to first.
izturis is tearing it up today
go kennedy!
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions
stupid cubs
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
WE NEED HOLLIDAY!
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
nah
we don’t need any more outfielders…
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
what we need is more consistent hitters & not 5-10 streaky hitters like we have now. when Glaus, Rick, DUNK, SKIPPY & LUD go ice cold, this team looks very, very bad
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
hopefully they'll have it on an even keel
by the time for the wild-card race, etc. we can gain a lot of ground on the cubs too because we get to play them a lot, but unfortunately most of the games left are at Wrigley (but maybe the Cubs win % at home will regress around that time)
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sooo..i have a question
In the box score for todays game(for example) it lists Wellemonster as “WP” what is WP? Thanks!
I think you are looking at the Wild Pitch indicator
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by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 6, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Winning Pitcher
I think
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
at least
that’s what it usually means
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
See...
thats what one would think…but he wasnt the winning pitcher…it was Marshall…If you look at the box score on www.stlcardinals.com you’ll see what im talking about. I tried googling for an answer but nothing comes up for a WP abbreviation…its very odd.
Here is the copy pasted version of what im talking about
WP: Wellemeyer.
HBP: DeRosa (by Perez, C).
Pitches-strikes: Marshall 88-59, Cotts 13-9, Marmol 10-7, Howry 13-8, Wellemeyer 76-54, Perez, C 33-24, Springer 26-19, Thompson 19-11.
Wild pitch
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by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 6, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Brewers officially acquire CC Sabathia
Au revoir Wild Card hopes, we hardly knew ye.
boo cubs, hooray beer
for Matt Laporta and 2 other prospects
Brewers system is so deep that losing a prospect like LaPorta will not even set them back very far
boo cubs, hooray beer
here's the link
to the story
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
although
this story says it’s not a done deal. yet.
this story was posted at 7:15pm & the WWL story was posted at 7:32pm. so believe what you will at this point.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
just contingent
on medical records and a little paperwork at this point. pretty much a done deal. sabathia has been on fire lately too, not good.
if tt's true, and i'm an Indians fan, i'm pissed
they should have held out for more of the Brew Crews prospects. as it stands now, it’s an OK to an alright deal for both teams. but the Indians really should have gotten a lot more for CC. i’m really surprised they didn’t knowing Mark’s history like i do. i mean, look what he got for Colon a few years ago? CC should have brought the same caliber of prospects, in fact probably better prospects because he’s a lefty.
in other news, the mets & Phills are in the 11th inning after a 3+ hour rain delay. they play the 4th game of the series tomorrow night. lets hope they blow out the Phills pitching staff before we roll into town. and out west, for some reason the Mariners used a position player to pitch the top of the 14th & he gave up the winning run to the Tigers in a 2-1 game.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
our old friend, Mr 2 Grand Slams Tatis
just hit a two run bomb in the 12th. Mets up 4-2
come on Phills. take it to 13
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
booooooo
pond scum win 4-2 in 12
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
eh
6 years of Matt LaPorta is pretty awesome for 3 months of CC. LaPorta’s as close to a sure thing as you can get and is certainly a few steps above the draft compensation for CC walking at the end of the year. Not to mention a high-upside arm and a few toss ins. . . it’s not a bad haul. The days of 2-3 top prospects for a veteran are in the past.
I've heard talk that they might
even go acquire Burnett to go along with C.C. and Sheets. Don’t know if that was speculation, or actually had legs.
I wouldn't mind that
I mean, it would suck because it would virtually guarantee us finishing in 3rd place in the division, thus missing the playoffs. However, if it means them beating the Cubs and keeping them from winning the world series, then i’m all for it.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Actually, it would mean
that the Cardinals only have to fear the Reds youth because the Brewers will have blown apart their farm system and face losing Sheets, Sabathia, Burnett, and Fielder to FA.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
and on espn no less...
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 7, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
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