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Game 90 Open Thread -- July 6, 2008

Adam1_tiny by chuckb on in News Comment 330 comments

A quick word about Ankiel's at-bat yesterday: Wood never threw him a fastball. Ankiel has struggled against fastballs since he came into the league, according to Josh Kalk's pitch-type stats --- a batting average in the low .200s with just a modicum of power. He's better against off-speed stuff --- murders changeups and hits for great power vs curveballs, although his average against them is low this year. --- LB.

When we last saw Wellemeyer, he was taking a Jason Marquis-like pounding from the Mets -- 12 hits and 6 ER in just 5 IP. It wouldn't have been a surprising start a year ago, but it kind of was this year. I really don't want to say that 3 starts can be a "pattern," but his worst 2 starts of the season have come in his last 3 outings. In those 3 starts, he's gone 13.1 IP w/ 24 H, 3 HR, 5 BB, and just 8 K's. I don't know if he's hurt, but he's clearly not the same pitcher he was through the season's first 2 months. What's interesting, and a little scary, is that his season-high innings pitched before this season was 79.1 -- last season. In '06 he threw 78.1 IP. Before the start in which he was injured, he threw exactly 80 innings. Go get 'em, Todd. I'll be the first to admit that I thought you belonged in the bullpen. Keep proving me wrong.

 

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Ank struggles against fastballs?

I would have never guessed that. It always seems like it’s fastballs that he crushes and breaking balls that drop off the table that he can’t touch.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 6, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Breaking Stuff gives him trouble

At least, i think. I’ve watched practically every game this year, except those on the Coast and blacked out Saturday games. He’s taken some Preston Wilson-like swings.

by greenwichvillagecard on Jul 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what I see also

which is why I was surprised that the stats show Ankiel struggling against fastballs.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 6, 2008 2:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Based on "eyeball"

rather than stats, I’d say Rick has trouble with the fastball in and above his hands… ya better get that heater in, however, or he’ll hurt you! From what I’ve watched, Ank can crush the down-and-in fastball.

Sometimes location is more important than pitch-type; “Pitch f/x” stats can tell us more..

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 6, 2008 2:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For what it's worth.

here’s Kalk’s stats on Ankiel for this season… he’s hitting .279 on fastballs he puts in play, with a .341 BABIP overall.

Other tidbits: Ank’s swung and missed 24% against all sliders recorded in this data, and 28% against all changeups… albeit he’s hit three of his 10 recorded bombs against the change. NOT all pitches are recorded with Pitch f/x, so I can’t really tell if my “eveyball” estimates match up with the data! (Oh, well…)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"on fastballs he puts in play"

apparently he swings through a lot of fastballs

by lboros on Jul 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not so much, according to Kalk...

22 swing-and-misses in 301 fastballs recorded (7%)... he’s fouled off 73 fastballs (24%) of the 301 recorded.

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's swung at 24 curves this year

and put the ball in play 12 times, or 50 percent. 1 in 6 swings produces a base hit

vs the fastball, he has swung 153 times and put it in play 58 times, or 37 percent . . . . 1 in 9.5 swings produces a base hit.

by lboros on Jul 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

more data from kalk

against fastballs greater than 90 mph (and wood gets it up there at about 95) ankiel has swung the bat 102 times and produced just 7 base hits . . . . vs 17 swing / misses

by lboros on Jul 6, 2008 3:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Saying Wood "never" threw him a fastball

isn’t much of a statement, considering (a) Ankiel’s a lefty and Wood’s a righty and (b) he only threw two pitches to him.

by Red in Chicago on Jul 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if that stat is correct

then maybe some opinions were a little off

by cowcards on Jul 6, 2008 2:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

red in chi, considering that the fastball is wood's best pitch

and it’s ankiel’s worst, i would think wood might just go right after ankiel with heat. he did the cards a favor by going with off-speed stuff

by lboros on Jul 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mulder starts on Wednesday vs Philadelphia

The only real positive you can have going into that is the Phillies are only hitting .249 vs LHP. Of course, that doesn’t help much when you look that they have the second highest slugging percentage vs lefties in the NL.

So, maybe what TLR is thinking is that since all Mulder gets is dinked and dunked, he’ll be ok because the only contact the Phillies make vs LHP is hard.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They need to know what they have

Why not test him against the best? What doesn’t destroy you makes you stronger and all that…

by Red in Chicago on Jul 6, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we have to find out at some point

what he will be able to do this season so y not

by cowcards on Jul 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Philly

Manuel started Hamels on Thursday, despite the Mets series, to get more starts in before the break. I think he’ll go Tuesday. Then we throw Mulder Wednesday. That’s rough.
Which leads me to my question? Will Garcia make starts before September, or is LaDunc committed to keeping him down? Anybody?

by greenwichvillagecard on Jul 6, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There has been almost no organizational chatter anywhere about

bringing up Garcia, Mortenson or Todd (AA). Then again, there never is any-with the sole exception of Rasmus, I think-in advance of people actually being moved.

by Red in Chicago on Jul 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why can't we find that out while he's in a bullpen

this is the front office trying to save face. it’s bad management.

by azruavatar on Jul 6, 2008 3:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lineup

per STLToday.com…

1. Joe Mather, LF
2. Rick Ankiel, CF
3. Albert Pujols, 1B
4. Ryan Ludwick, RF
5. Troy Glaus, 3B
6. Yadier Molina, C
7. Cesar Izturis, SS
8. Todd Wellemeyer, RHP
9. Brendan Ryan, 2B

Ank’s the only lefty batter…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that could be

an extremely powerful lineup… 5 guys in a row who could hit it out at any time.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 6, 2008 2:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barton to DL?

Can that happen? I thought he wasn’t allowed to go to the DL. Sorry for the stupid question. It will be nice to see Joey Bombs in HD today. Stinks this could have been Colby’s first game..can’t wait for that.

by birdsonthehat on Jul 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, it can happen

My understanding is that he can also go out on a rehab assignment afterwards, letting him get some more regular ABs. Rule 5 players must be on the active roster for a certain amount of time, but I think it’s only 90 days and, if so, Barton is now past that.

by DCGreg on Jul 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought rule 5 guys

had to be on the roster for the entire year

by cowcards on Jul 6, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, just 90 days

he can go on the DL if he is hurt. They can’t make you play with 24 guys.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Makes you think

Barton might develop toenail fungus or something while staying at the Memphis Red Roof Inn.

by Red in Chicago on Jul 6, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He won't be back for 45 days

He will miss 15 days on the DL and then take a 30 day rehab assignment, in which he won’t get any playing time because the Memphis OF is already loaded.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 2:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not by much

Robinson
Stavinoha
Rasmus
Haerther

Still makes him in a 5 man rotation, if Jay isn’t up by then.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 2:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you're right

he’ll be back in time for roster expansion.

by enoscountry on Jul 6, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

according to foxsports

Brewers are real close to getting sabathia with LaPorte being the centerpiece

by cowcards on Jul 6, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

excellent

Plays right into TLR’s “we get no respect” schtick this year.

Pujols obviously will get added and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ludwick sneak in.

by DCGreg on Jul 6, 2008 2:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know what that means exactly

could be an insult, but it looks like players were getting it to many first-timers.

by enoscountry on Jul 6, 2008 2:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That .474 OBP just snuck in

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 2:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so what cardinals

made the team and where are you finding this info.?

by cowcards on Jul 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's on TBS

only Pujols and Ludwick made it. Pujols a managers selection and Ludwick voted in by players.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Dumpster made it

Lohse should have made it. Another case of popularity and stupidity over knowledge. The All-Star Game has gotten pretty ridiculous. Maybe they should just award a permanent trophy to the AL and do away with it.

by Red in Chicago on Jul 6, 2008 2:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

despite our starting pitching

having the best ERA in the NL?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cards are getting zero respect

this year
on ESPN radio gameday yesterday, they referred to the cards using a “smoke and mirrors’ strategy, whatever the heck that means. Then went on to say its a better team than the one that won the world series in 2006. a two-for one insult

I guess having the best defense in the league, second best offense and top third pitching counts for little.

as I said in the last thread we’d get two if we’re lucky

by vances law on Jul 6, 2008 3:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

we should get more respect, we have three guys with around 18 home runs, plus a power hitter who is a little bit underachieving in Glaus, and if Duncan starts cranking ‘em again, we’re right up there (not to mention our high team OBP, etc).

And a team’s defense always gets overlooked, even though it’s just about mandatory to play fundamentally sound baseball in order to do well.

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We might get to vote Lohse in

on that “fan pick” the last player weird thing MLB does.

by enoscountry on Jul 6, 2008 2:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I voted

but didn’t do the write-in thing. I just figured Lohse would have made it since he has 10 wins and almost had 11 yesterday

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Write-in would NOT have helped...

fans don’t get to vote for pitchers.

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah yes

guess I knew that already

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7 Cubs

We better pound their heads in today. It’d be nice for us to be in 1st place at the ASB, the Cubs in 3rd and the announcers have to explain how a 3rd place team has 7 All-Stars.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ridiculous

Big Z is the only worthy pick. The rest are all borderline at best, and Fukudome and Wood are clearly not deserving. The cubs deserved about 3-4 this year only.

I hate all the publicity Soto is getting and Yadi is an All-Star, Gold Glover here getting NO RESPECT WHATSOEVER!

by Egyptian on Jul 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what, no marmol?

A travesty of justice! He needs to pitch in 163 games this year.

I’m absolutely fine with no STL pitchers making the ASG. Take that well-deserved break, fellas. Might even save mo some $$$ come negotiation time.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 6, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Absolutely!

I am really happy for him.

And for us. Helps his trade value if necessary.

by Egyptian on Jul 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus he gets a little star

next to his name on his Baseball Reference page. Can’t take that away, even if he turns into Roger Freed tomorrow.

by Red in Chicago on Jul 6, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I loved Roger Freed!

and the semi-legendary grand slam.

by random on Jul 6, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The team with the 2nd best record in the NL

Has zero starters on the all star team (though I wouldn’t be surprised to see Pujols start at DH).

I don’t know if that’s a testament how our team is a total group effort, or if it just shows how flawed the all-star voting system is. Little bit of both, maybe?

Kudos to Ludwick though.

by stl tyler on Jul 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The voting system is the problem.

I don’t think it is lack of respect around the league. Pujols is one of the most respected players in the game and certainly in the NL. The fan vote is just a stupid marketing gimmick.

by Egyptian on Jul 6, 2008 2:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then why was he not a player selection?

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Adrian Gonzalez is an excellent player

and a hell of a guy. My guess is the players knew Pujols would be named, but figured it was up to them to get Gonzalez in.

by random on Jul 6, 2008 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The team with the best record in the game has 0 starters as well

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's because Avg. Fan doesn't know anyone who plays for TB

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why don't they just let the umpires make the selections?

Wouldn’t see as much cry-baby crap at the plate and they are supposed to be impartial.

I could live with umps making the picks.

by Egyptian on Jul 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the?

how would varitek make a little league team this year, let alone the all star team?

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 6, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could it be

the team he plays on?

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TBS says

the players voted him on. so it wasn’t red sox fans stuffing the box.

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 6, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Apparently the players

are as influenced by the media lovefest with Bos/NY as the fans then ;) Heh.

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah that hurts

Varitek has been miserable this year.

by stl tyler on Jul 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

helps the NL

if he is going to playing in the game

by cowcards on Jul 6, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get on first

and run, run, RUN!!!!!

Ooops… sorry, I had a “Whiteyball” flashback there… ;-)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No kidding

219 .301 .360 has to be the worst all star line in recent memory isn’t it?

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Will KSDK

interrupt the Wimbeldon final for the game?

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its on TBS I don't think KSDK gets it

Kind of like the fox on saturday thing

New Member of the Skip Schumaker Fan Club

by cyko42 on Jul 6, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on screen tv guide

says mlb at 2pm on ksdk. i can watch it on tbs no big deal, i just wondered how they would handle that. Obviously more people in St Louis care about Cards/Cubs than Federer/Nadal. :)

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I sort of hope not.

I plan on flipping between the 2.

Excellent match going on. Nadal might just beat him this time. But Federer is amazing. He has saved the match at least a half dozen times.

by Egyptian on Jul 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Might not matter now.

Tarp is out and they think it may rain for a while.

by Egyptian on Jul 6, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know!

I thought Nadal had this easily. I’m not a huge fan of either, but you have to appreciate the talent and effort on display.

Oops, rain delay x2

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A truly great rivalry

I love the one-on-one pure competition of tennis. Those matches are SO grueling, and like 3-4 hours if they go to 5 sets. Great competition. I hope Nadal can win this one.

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What I love

is the nonpartisanship of the crowd at a lot of matches… They root for the 5 set nail biter over the favored player most of the time. It’s great.

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

That fourth set tie-break was incredible.

by six on Jul 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry if this has been mentioned ad naseum...

Cubs/Cards: 1st and 2nd best records in the NL respectively. A combined record of 102-75.

ESPN Sunday Night Game of the Week? Yanks and Sawks of course. 98-80, both teams looking up at the best team in baseball in the standings.

It will never be said enough for my tastes – f you ESPN. F you so hard.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 6, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i enjoyed the espn highlights

last night as well. of course the yanks and sox were the first shown. they also got a much longer segment despite being a much less dramatic game. they didn’t even show anything from the ninth besides ank’s hit. i didn’t get to watch the game due to being at work so needless to say i was very disappointed (allow not surprised).

"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy

by FutureMan on Jul 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Final vote

No Cardinals. We’re just getting two.

by stl tyler on Jul 6, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hell yeah

Cardinals really got a snub this year

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

could have just as easily sent Lohse, Ankiel, and Molina along with Pujols and Ludwick. I guess that proves the People Are Stupid theorem

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very little national exposure for this team

So very wrong.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 6, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whatever

I’d rather be underrated than overrated.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd be happy with

more coverage of my team.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 6, 2008 3:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

this team has the most interesting players on it, and lots of young guys trying to get promoted, etc. very entertaining to watch, yet almost totally overlooked

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse was robbed!!!

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

giambi

and his gold thong on the ballot. i hope he gets it. we need more ‘staches on the all star team

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 6, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Write in

Jason LaRue. Make it happen, people.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

I switched over to Fox Sports Chicago

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You mean Comcast

Anyway, I’m depressed I DON’T get to watch TBS.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

sorry, Comcast Sports Net. I always think that they are the same thing

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pretty much

same personalities which caused a real uncomfortable convesation between Dave Otto and myself, but thats another story for another time….

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sounds interesting

til then

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

TBS on dish network just said sorry and goodbye

by madeintaiwan on Jul 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously

If TBS gets blacked out and my WB channel that usually picks up the cardinals shows the X-men I may hurt many many people

New Member of the Skip Schumaker Fan Club

by cyko42 on Jul 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My mlb.tv works for a TBS game?

Not that I’m complaining, but colour me absolutely astounded

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't have cable

so I have no idea whether TBS is blacked out here in Texas or not

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is blacked out in Indiana.

I think I am going to send a copy of this to TBS. They don’t seem to understand how TV markets work.

by Egyptian on Jul 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

around des moines

on mediacom it’s on channel 20.

by thatsawinner on Jul 6, 2008 3:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ohh well.

Gonna have to let the game finish and then watch it on MLB.tv. I don’t want to miss this one.

by Egyptian on Jul 6, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

one of the few reason I liked Mediacom

was that they would do things like that, put what people couldn’t see on their local channel. Unfortunately, I Like the rest off the the things that DirecTV does really well

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by cyko42 on Jul 6, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is MLB.tv

still doing the 5 day free thing still?

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by cyko42 on Jul 6, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brad Lidge on the team

Too bad he doesn’t play for an AL team this year.

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm actually happy

I want the NL to win and he has been phenomenal.

Better than stinking Trevor Hoffman

by enoscountry on Jul 6, 2008 3:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe...

Maybe because not many cards got voted in that Tony will use this to pump him team up for the second half?

by madeintaiwan on Jul 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse should be in, no doubt

I think Ankiel should have made it over Ludwick. makes me think this was settled a couple of weeks ago.

Mather is leading off? seriously?

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Jul 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sweet I get to listen to cub announcers

nothing makes me want to not ever hear again then listen to Bob Brenly except maybe having to listen to Santo (my fiance made me go watch the fireworks on friday instead of watching the 9th, of course no cardinals radio up here in Ames)......

New Member of the Skip Schumaker Fan Club

by cyko42 on Jul 6, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

atleast with channel 5

i get an inning or 2 with the moon man

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by cyko42 on Jul 6, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just to clarify, can someone tell me if the game is being shown on channel 5

right now? If not, does anyone know if it will be picked up when tennis is over?

Thanks a ton!

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 6, 2008 3:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my mlb.tv feed is the channel five feed

and they claim that they will be covering both wimbeldon and the cardinals

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least it's not blacked out

I thought I’d have to be going to a bar for htis, so I”m happy regardless

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

105.3 FM

carries it from sheridan—can you get that?

by thatsawinner on Jul 6, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nope,

105.1 the ames channel washes it away just north of ankeny

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by cyko42 on Jul 6, 2008 3:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh

I’m moving to Decatur, IL tomorrow. So today will probably be the last day I won’t be able to listen on the radio

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by cyko42 on Jul 6, 2008 3:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good luck with that

i also buy gameday audio so can listen to it from anywhere on the computer.

by thatsawinner on Jul 6, 2008 3:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miles finally getting the day off

I kinda like the Izturis at SS and Ryan at 2B middle infield

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a good start

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cubs announcer was saying

that it’s nice that Ludwick made the team, because this will probably be the only year he’ll make it. same could be said for Fukudome

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are you kidding

Fuku basically has his ticket punched every year with cub fans and japanese voters.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unless

he starts sucking really bad

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeh I liked that comment too

if he we’re a cub though…......................

by vances law on Jul 6, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wellemeyer

rick horton said before the game that wellemeyer was moving more into the middle of the rubber to get a better angle since his injury. seemed to work that inning.

by thatsawinner on Jul 6, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think they just pushed him back a start

because Lou wanted to stack the lefties for this series. they’re carrying like 14 pitchers so they can shuffle ‘em around a bit. Sent down Ascanio when Z was activated. They’re probably be sending Marshall down after this series. That or Gallagher.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd send down Gallagher

but hopefully they’ll keep him

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lame Split Screen

on Channel 5

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tennis

i am not crazy about it, but the split screen ruins it and the ballgame

Pujols is the greatest Cardinal in my lifetime.

by bigcardsfan5 on Jul 6, 2008 3:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even if you did care

You can’t even read the score or anything so what is the point?

"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck

by CurtainCall on Jul 6, 2008 3:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cheers to living in Columbia

The KSDK feed is on one channel and Tennis is on another.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 3:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh...

I guess i’m that one guy. Seriously. Federer, Nadal, third straight meeting in the Wimbledon final? Screw Yanks-Sox. This is the greatest rivalry in sports.

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 6, 2008 3:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

40 man roster

Haerther is off it
Cards at 39
that includes Rico Washington and Hawksworth who would seem to be the most expendable roster spots.
not sure why we emptied a spot unless we are planning on calling up a pitcher not on the roster

by vances law on Jul 6, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or a trade

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mo was talking Jaime Garcia about a week back...

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 3:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clearly

Duncan is headed to San Francisco, who needs a power hitting first baseman, in exchange for an excellent young pitcher. Or three.

by stl tyler on Jul 6, 2008 3:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My cuuun-twee tis ah theee

Sweeet land of liiiii-bo-teee
Of theeeee i seeeeee

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When exactly is first pitch?

Cause I’m blacked out on TBS and can’t find it on any local channels. I’m extremely confused and I hope I’m not missing the game because, if so, I’m going to be absolutely infuriated. WGN is showing A’s/ChiSox.

by mynameistyler on Jul 6, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

except that first down line

in football broadcasts. That’s good technology.

by six on Jul 6, 2008 3:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How in hell did anyone watch football before that thing?

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 3:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's like a cell phone

I have no idea how we ever met up with anyone ANYWHERE without being in constant contact walking us through the process.

Remember when we had to figure out where to go and then hope the other person not only figured it out too, but was also on time? Yikes.

Rough times.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I utterly cannot imagine college without a cell phone

How did parties happen? How did you invite people? How did anyone figure out what to do? Now it’s as simple as 3 roommates sending out 100 person mass text messages.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well...

Back in the day, people actually used to COMMIT to things, instead of waiting utnil the last minute to take the best offer. That last minute crap still pisses me off.

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 6, 2008 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait was commitment??

That thing where you would like know in advance what is going on and then say you’re going to do that and stick to it? I thought websters took that out of the dictionary or something?

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 3:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Flyers and talking to people

It was actually nicer, not having people running off and disappearing on porches constantly.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No one goes to porches

They just yell into their phones right in front of you.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 3:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sometimes I'm really, really happy that I'm a Gen Xer

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I personally enjoy trying to watch three channels at once

As well as having live updated comments to make on blogs.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 6, 2008 3:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Millenials are awesome. Had to listen to one talk on his cell phone in the movies last night for 5 minutes.

“Naw dude. I’m in the movies. I’ll call ya later.”

Like that douche bag is important.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not only did I not have a cell phone in college

but I didn’t have email either until the veeeeery end. And it was more hastle than anything, because you had to go to the friggin’ library to use a computer hooked up to the internet tubes.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That ball looks like it should've been caught

but it’s hard to tell on the tiny sliver of a screen KSDK has given us to watch the game

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 6, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did look like an odd route

not sure if it was catchable though. i actually thought it was Luddy’s ball of the bat, but it looks like he was positioned way over close to the line.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 6, 2008 3:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno...

The games look great on 60” HD ;-)

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 6, 2008 3:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Random aside

I’m glad Mather is getting a start. Chris Duncan really doesn’t seem like he’s pulling out of the funk, imo. That and Mather’s a considerably better defender.

Isn’t there some other team in the bigs that needs some LH otufielder? Anyone?

by azruavatar on Jul 6, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Duncan

Um, lets see LH outfeilder for sale: can’t hit, can’t field.

What would you give um for him?

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Jul 6, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not speaking of Duncan specifically

A schumaker trade would work just as well for me. really moving any outfielders would be fine with me (short of Rasmus).

by azruavatar on Jul 6, 2008 3:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

especially if we trade for a corner OF with some pop

would make sense to trade skippy and keep Ankiel and Ludwick

by vances law on Jul 6, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he just fought off break point

in set #5. It’s a great battle.. wouldn’t be surprised to see a 13-11 fifth set or something like that.

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 6, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

total points won

is 178 to 179.

That’s insane.

by six on Jul 6, 2008 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KY3 in Springfield area...

saying the Cards will be joined in progress after Wimbledon? I mean… seriously? Is this a fucking joke? Look, I like tennis too and this is a good matchup, sure. But we’re talking Cards and Cubs… in a town with a Cardinals affiliate… what is going through their heads?

by mynameistyler on Jul 6, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i guarantee you

within the contract they signed to broadcast Wimbledon it wont allow them to go to just the Cards game

by cowcards on Jul 6, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, but they could have MOVED it...

to Ozarks-CW when the game started like they just did, only innings later.

by mynameistyler on Jul 6, 2008 3:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cards Fan In Chitown

Is your Comcast “audio” feed crap right now?

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

Len just answered my question.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

it sounds like they have been possessed by some kind of nanotechnology interdimensional cyborg

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

it was happening on and off for the whole broadcast

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 6, 2008 3:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

edmonds

you know, despite the fact i think larussa was wrong in his response to jimmy’s comments, i think it’s pretty cool that tony’s willing to defend the club and its traditions in public. even if it means pissing people off. Especially since he doesn’t always get such an easy time of it from various outlets.

by spencegrif on Jul 6, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gallagher is killing me

this “take 30 seconds to just stand there and stare at the batter” thing must end.

Then again, that inning would have lasted all of 2 minutes if he wasn’t doing it, so maybe it’s good to give Welley at least a few minutes to rest…

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 6, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah ;)

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 6, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

err, marshall

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 6, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And that whole inning was a blur

due to the Ryan Dempster interview (with a retarded Carlos Zambrano sticking his face in the camera that was about as riveting and exciting as watching paint dry.

I almost swalloed my tongue for entertainment.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah, I'm lucky

I’ve got the STL feed for once. Shannon just keeps dissing fukudome, which is awesome except that he’s using the wrong stats to do it.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 6, 2008 4:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Wellsie, clamp it down

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Still not really a clean hit off of him.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 6, 2008 3:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wimbledon

6 all in the 5th set
ridiculous

by azruavatar on Jul 6, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it need to go away

My tv is really really small. I can’t see what is happening.

by Evilfrog on Jul 6, 2008 3:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McEnroe

is cracking me up. He’s so amazed that they’re not more tired.

by six on Jul 6, 2008 3:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know

as if they haven’t had two or three rain breaks.

not that my fat ass wouldn’t be tired but we’re talking about two world class tennis players who are getting sizable rest periods.

by azruavatar on Jul 6, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TBS feed

Are these the Cubs announcers on the TBS feed?

by stlfan on Jul 6, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

usually it's either Brennaman or Caray or Martinez or someone else

granted two of those 3 are former cub announcers, but unless it’s Len Kasper and Bob Brenley then they’re not.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 3:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know

who they are…but they are pimping the Cubs BIG time…

by stlfan on Jul 6, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats cause

the cubs are the only good team in the NL and have all the good players

by vances law on Jul 6, 2008 4:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

roster question

I read earlier that Barton was DL’d (I think), but they’ve added two to the roster (Mather and Iz2), who else went away?

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C'mon cards

lets rattle those bats

by azruavatar on Jul 6, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stupid Cubs

1) just thought it needed to be said…
2) because they’re winning.

by stlfan on Jul 6, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm now realizing why people think Skip Caray is a bad announcer

1. he says there’s “no complaint” with fukudome as all star starter
2. Says Rolen, Edmonds, McGwire, and Pujols were all on the same roster. which they weren’t: Rolen wasn’t on until 2002 when McGwire was already gone.
3. failed to point out Reed Johnson was picked off because he was busy talking about crap.

by enoscountry on Jul 6, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

#3

well…if Ryan holds on to the ball…

by stlfan on Jul 6, 2008 4:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought he was out at 1st

by enoscountry on Jul 6, 2008 4:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh...

that pickoff…(i missed it)

by stlfan on Jul 6, 2008 4:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nah

he was in there even if ryan catches it. Took too long to throw and then the throw was way wide.

A good throw gets him though… and I agree that he was out at first.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 6, 2008 4:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

0-30

C’mon Nadal!!!