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Pujols Kicks it Off

And Pujols kicks off the new thread with a new HR

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2008 10:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Jason

Interestinghausen…

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jul 4, 2008 10:37 PM EDT   0 recs

It's working pretty well thus far.

That hit was a total blooper.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 4, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

probably because his

fastball and cutter are down 4-5 mph.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 4, 2008 10:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Izzy

cannot keep shit down…

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jul 4, 2008 10:44 PM EDT   0 recs

wow that call was

gracious

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 4, 2008 10:44 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm just so happy that mfing cutter's working again

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 4, 2008 10:45 PM EDT   0 recs

All right

GET IZZY THE EFFING WIN, BOYS

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 4, 2008 10:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Top of 9, down by 1

Why the hell are they talking about fireworks and other teams?
Seriously – what about strategy…decisions…things that are going through the manager’s mind…ugh.

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jul 4, 2008 10:47 PM EDT   0 recs

so i guess we've officially moved over here for the 9th uh?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 10:47 PM EDT   0 recs

Ladies and gentlemen,

the poster boy for over throwing: Kerry Wood

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jul 4, 2008 10:48 PM EDT   0 recs

WHAT???????????????????

HOW WAS THAT A STRIKE

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 10:50 PM EDT   0 recs

3-1 against Glaus is playing with fire, Kerry

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 4, 2008 10:50 PM EDT   0 recs

F U BLUE

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 10:50 PM EDT   0 recs

wow

and some choice words

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Bad bad bad

Tony pussed.

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jul 4, 2008 10:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

player of the game: Homeplate Ump

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT   0 recs

well we will not know

what would have happened had he walked

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 4, 2008 10:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and the ump keeps looking into the dug out

nice

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT   0 recs

stay classy blue

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 10:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that P O S ump isn't even giving the Cards a chance

MLB really needs to do something

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 10:53 PM EDT   0 recs

Yadi's wallet

is the one that says “Bad MotherF*cker” on it…

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jul 4, 2008 10:53 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow, fixed game much?

I didn’t know NBA refs were umping MLB games now.

Miles in '08

by Zoop on Jul 4, 2008 10:53 PM EDT   0 recs

two good moves by tony

ryan running and luddy hitting

by the Tewk on Jul 4, 2008 10:53 PM EDT   0 recs

don't swing at the junk LUD

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 10:54 PM EDT   0 recs

disgusting.

Good thing I stayed in for this game.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 4, 2008 10:56 PM EDT   0 recs

well the ump did his best to take the game out our hands with that first out

that was some disgusting game calling. why there are still people calling balls and strikes and not a machine is beyond me.

by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2008 10:56 PM EDT   0 recs

peace out all

have a good 4th (w/ some Franklins)

by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2008 10:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

good idea

i’m going to go curl up in a ball in the corner with a bottle of rum & weep like a little girl

you all be safe out there

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 11:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tim Donaghy

tonight’s home plate umpire, ladies and germs.

Miles in '08

by Zoop on Jul 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT   0 recs

With a Game like that he should be a marked man Tomorrow

Those at the game…let him hear it!
tim donaghy brought to you by bud selig!!!

mattnj

by mattnj on Jul 4, 2008 11:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

there outta be a law against umps like that

he completely took the bats out of the Cards hands

MLB needs to do something about these rogue umps. they are killing baseball

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT   0 recs

After games like that

I’m all for Wall-E or Bender calling my pitches.

Miles in '08

by Zoop on Jul 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd just like to throw out that perhaps I'd rather have Wall-E

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 4, 2008 11:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

At least if I cared about the game

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 4, 2008 11:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

/votes for marvin

“a brain the size of a planet, and all i do is sit here day in and day out and call “ball”, “strike”, it doesn’t involve the tiniest bit of my intellect to determine that the little white orb crossed the plate… i’m 130 million times better at it than tim donaghy, but then again, so is that hot dog vendor over there…”

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 4, 2008 11:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I find it odd that home teams like the Cubs/Red Sox ect.

get huge home field umpire calls…but we get none.

Hope the offense wakes up tomorrow.

by KYCards on Jul 4, 2008 11:02 PM EDT   0 recs

You know, I don't want huge home field calls

even when the other team gets them. I just want goddamned fair umpiring

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 4, 2008 11:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

With it being game 1 of 3

Tony didn’t want to get the umps pissed off for the rest of the series…I bet. I just think it’s unfair that when teams like the Cubs are playing at home they get calls like that in their favor…but not us. The Red Sox got the same treatment….the umps were giving them a bunch of gifts when we played them.

by KYCards on Jul 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

in typical TRL fashion

he said in his post game the ump didn’t cost the Birds the win

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And that's what he should say

You lost the game either way. Light a fire under the players to make the next game definitive enough that the umps are irrelevant.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 4, 2008 11:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

All the Cubs fans at Busch pissed me off more than the umps

It amazes me how many Cubs fans can get tickets to these games in St. Louis.

by KYCards on Jul 4, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, it goes both ways

That’s knd of the fun of having a rivalry between cities this close. It’s downright embarassing how many cardinals fans show up at Minute Maid when the Astros are bad. (on the same topic, it was equally bad for a Red Sox-Astros game that I went to this month)

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

bashing the umps gets you no where

but it sure has hell makes me feel better

the first question he was asked about the ump, he replied “no comment”

so with that no comment, he pretty much said all that he needed to say

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 4, 2008 11:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

but I really hope that MLB is not imitating the NBA

A cubs/redsox world series is very financially appealing…

mattnj

by mattnj on Jul 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if that is the case

and tim donaghy had to pick one or two pitches in a game to mis-call, he certainly picked the right ones.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 5, 2008 12:40 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that 9th inning glaus at bat really grinds my gears

i dont know why but i think i would feel a little better if glaus would have gotten himself ejected

by truemun12 on Jul 4, 2008 11:10 PM EDT   0 recs

holy wow

marlins 17, rockies 16, in colorado, in the 8th inning.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 4, 2008 11:41 PM EDT   0 recs

rockies win, 18-17, on a blown save by gregg

base hit with the bases loaded, following 3 singles and an error. Wow.

And only 2 errors in a game in which 35 runs were scored- that is amazing.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 5, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's good for us

The Marlins are a SERIOUS threat for the wild card.

by KYCards on Jul 5, 2008 12:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Agree

Last night I said the Brewers needed more than Sabitha to get into the playoffs. But I am having serious doubts that we are going to play as good as we did the first half of the season and we will be real lucky to get the wild card over the Brewers. These next two games will be a real telling sign of what “we have”. To be honest I felt we didn’t play with much fire tonight against the Cubs AT HOME in our first big series of the season. They didn’t make Zambrano work at all and that was a real let down….at least for me. Plus I don’t think management is real serious about trying to “win it” this year. They are hoping we play like we did the first half and are going to stick with the guys we have and not make any major moves. I could be wrong…but it’s just the feeling I have.

by KYCards on Jul 5, 2008 1:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Zambrano

I’ll give the man his due…he is a dominate pitcher…BUT why can’t the Cards ever seem to beat him? Zambrano is 8-0 against Cards in last 11 starts and the Cards use the same approach every time they face him. Go up and swing at anything they see. I would REALLY hope when we face him in August they have a different approach next time and make him WORK. Other teams can do it against him why not us?!!?

PLUS the man was on a strict pitch count and we still went up there swinging early and letting him get easy innings and get through 6 six innings easy.
We can bitch about the umps..and rightfully so…but the Cards didn’t help themselves tonight before it even got to the bottom of the 9th with the umprire shanigans.

by KYCards on Jul 5, 2008 12:13 AM EDT   0 recs

Sweet mother of mercy

I just watched the 9th inning (sorry, had to go watch the fireworks) and that was just plain awful. Where the heck was LaRussa? Couldn’t he be bothered to go out and get run? He did stick up for his player a day after he buried a former player in the papers. Stay Classy, Tone.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 5, 2008 12:21 AM EDT   0 recs

I missed the game today

had too many other festivities and could only follow the game on my cell phone.

Was the umpiring pro-cub the entire game? Or did Zambrano just flat out beat us?

Good to see Looper with a fantastic outing against the best offense in the NL

Good to see APu get #300

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 5, 2008 1:36 AM EDT   0 recs

Well...

the umpiring wasn’t really too bad until the 9th when he gave Wood a “hometown strike zone” even though we was pitching for the road team. I thought we was squeezing Looper at times, especially right before Soto hit his HR. As for Zambrano…he had good stuff but the Cards didn’t make him work at all and they swung at first pitches and didn’t make him throw a lot even knowing he had strict pitch count. Big mistake.
I didn’t think the Cards played with much fire tonight in what was the start of their first real big series of the season. Let’s hope the bad umpiring in the 9th will light a flame under their asses and they come out tomorrow ready to score some runs and win the next two games this weekend.

by KYCards on Jul 5, 2008 2:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Quote from Albert...

“He’s probably one of the toughest guys that we face in our division or our league,” first baseman Albert Pujols said of Zambrano. “Obviously, he’s got our number. There’s nothing to hide.”

This is true…but it’s getting to the point where they are just giving up when they have to face Zambrano. Other teams have got to him before..there is no reason why Albert & the boys can’t change their approach with him and pound him at some point. I really think they are intimidated by Big Z…I really wish this would change. No pitcher is unbeatable…they really need to make him work. Z looses his temper real easy and can get wild after he looses it or if his pitch count gets up….they should focus on this. They just seem to lose all plate discipline when they face him.

by KYCards on Jul 5, 2008 4:04 AM EDT   0 recs

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