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Game 110 Overflow #2

Viva El Birdos!

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announcer: "braves locked up in ANOTHER 1-run game."

what, you prefer what you’ve had the first 2 games of this series?

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 30, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

not any more

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny Parra just tripled.

after some Brewer got caught stealing 2nd.

by Tackle Box on Jul 30, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Mather has a very odd strike zone

he doesn’t hit stuff well that’s pitched down the middle, but he clobbers low inside and high outside pitches

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

joe blow!!!!

"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre

by el_duderino on Jul 30, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

joey bombs

booyah

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

JOEY BOMBS AWAY!!!!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Mather pisspounds another one

FTW!!

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 30, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

jo-ey bombs!

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 30, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

oh hellyeah

mather!!!!!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I KNEW Springer wasn't going to pitch the 8th

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

just showing Grit

a little love

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

izzification may be easier to deal with now

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 30, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

3 team update

8:29pm: Here’s the latest. MLB.com says we’re moving closer to the three-team deal. The Pirates could receive a minor leaguer from the Red Sox. Dejan Kovacevic says the Pirates would receive four or more prospects for Bay, as well as Hermida. John Grabow could end up in Boston or Florida. Perrotto says it could be expanded to have Jed Lowrie go to Pittsburgh and Jack Wilson to Boston. The Bucs also like Red Sox prospect Hunter Jones.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

i've been flipping to NESN during the commercials

and so far i haven’t heard them say any thing. that doesnt mean they haven’t, but i just haven’t heard it

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Espn updated it

right before that brewer hit the triple..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

during his last at 5minutes ago

NESN said that very well could have been Manny’s final ab as a sawx.

and thats all they said

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

nesn? your nickname for espn?

ah the update i saw was a sprtscenter in game a few innings ago it was still 2-1 cus then..it verified the first 3 team rumor

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh i thought he was making fun of ESPN

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha..

that would be funny. “ESPN, it’s like the NESN for the rest of us!”

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, it's the sawx tv network

i’ve been watching that because they are far more knowledgeable than the WWL

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah hardcore below was saying the pirates announcers

were reporting it too

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

and they probably don't care as much about the Sox as ESPN does

[/sarcasm]

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should start a network

we might even be more knowledgeable than the WWL, that isn’t saying much though

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've got a great face for radio

so i’ll take that end

we’ll have to get EA away from the WWL to work the TV side of things if we expect any one will take us serious.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

SACRIFICES!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here we go again

3 runs difference means a save for Izzy…..

by Woodwork on Jul 30, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Man that was a sweet swing by Joey

I just like replaying it again, and again, and again

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

they just showed it again

my what a sweet swing

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone gets a chance

check out the braves catcher’s reaction when Joey Bombs!

it was meant to be verbed, right?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else think the Braves are more than willing

to give up Ohman for Joe Mather right now?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 30, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I would think they might do that

if that happens, I am going to spend the next few days crying

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we only offer AK

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we get Ohman

his gameday pick would give me endless enjoyment for the rest of the season

by NorseKaiser on Jul 30, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh man

oppents average of .199 vs. Ohman

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

ha!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was hoping he got hit

he was that dejected!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Astros???

they traded for La Troy Hawkins..seriously y

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

do they think they are in it?

or do they just not like their prospects?

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 30, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

their system is terrible

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

they want to finish ahead of the Bucs

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I gues Hawkins didn't arrive soon enough

‘Stros losing 7-0 to Cincy

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

they trade for wolf and then La troy

but the yanks deal two relivers in one day

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry 7-1

they just scored

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

as much as the Astros would hate to admit it

Cincy is clearly the 4th best team in this division

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

And Pittsburgh is the fifth.

Why don't you just make like a tree, and get out of here?

by the red baron on Jul 30, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

buckle down McClellan

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Milwaukee

is getting their just desserts for sweeping us

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't read the posts above....

but I’m startied to have this feeling that Joe Mather just might end up being a special player….I know it’s easier to write after watching him slug a 2 run bomb…...but it’s just a gut feeling.

I don’t want to trade him.

by stanchar on Jul 30, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

I don’t particularly want to see him go.

Why don't you just make like a tree, and get out of here?

by the red baron on Jul 30, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have good feelings also

especially if he shortens his swing and still rips the ball

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 30, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figure he doesnt need to shorten his swing

I don’t like messing with a good thing

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kennedy?

Anybody else puzzled by where Kennedy was positioned on that ground ball base hit by Francoeur there? Seemed like they almost had the reverse shift on.

Why don't you just make like a tree, and get out of here?

by the red baron on Jul 30, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

if mather keeps up this power...

does anyone dig the nickname ‘Mighty Joe Mather’?

by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 30, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

its OK, but you cant beat Joey Bombs

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

hall of fame name

i still think this is the best name in the HOF: williams “candy” cummings, inventor of the curveball

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 30, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is unreal

is that really his name?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

TOTALLY

21-22 lifetime, 2.78 era, 43 games, 372 IP, 37 K. HOF numbers if i ever saw them. this just strengthens my jamie moyer for HOF case…

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 30, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Settle down, KMac

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

think its a coincidence

that i make another drink when we get to the late innings and our bullpen comes in?

10.27.06..greatest day of my life

by steveo61086 on Jul 30, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

ohhhh KMac got away with one there

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHAHA

My better half just came in from the other room and said that the Pirates announcers accidentally thought they were at commercial and were talking about the Bay – Manny – Hermida deal as done.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

will carroll at BP thinks it's done

there’s something in the commissioner’s office.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 30, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

though with the caveat

that the teams haven’t finalized what prospects are involved. says there’s still some potential for the deal to fall apart.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 30, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya mlb.com

was saying it was gaining speed..see above

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

please explain

I just joined the thread. What are the teams/players/conditions?

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

www.mlbtraderumors.com

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boston better be getting some nice prospects from Florida

Hermida, although controlled, is nowhere near the level of Manny or Bay, and both would be Type A’s.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

fla, pit, bos

manny to florida. hermida to pit. bay to the sox. also, john grabow, a prospect, would go from fla to boston; pit would get three prospects.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

completely agree

if Bay was on the Cardinals I couldn’t yell at him for having a 4 year old girl’s arm from the bleachers. I would have been processor-broken.

by azruavatar on Jul 30, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

dp, please

K Mac

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

what?

isn’t he taller and leaner?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

How nitpicky can you get

A) There aren’t many guys Joe Mather’s size to begin with
B) Swings are very similar
C) Both very aggressive

by TheBirds on Jul 30, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it just offput me

cuz Franc ain’t doing very good lately

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they would be more similar in size if you took old Jeff Franceour

He beefed up a lot this year. They are the same height though.

But yeah, hopefully he doesn’t end up like Franceour this year.

by TheBirds on Jul 30, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see it

It’s more of a facial features thing to me, but I could also see Mather coming up here and mashing and then the league figuring him out

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

his zone so far

is so hot and cold… he can hit stuff in on his hands, and especially up and away, but he can’t hit stuff that’s on the lower outside corner, or even down the middle. the down the middle part is probably just indicative of him trying to catch up with a major league fastball I’d guess.

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2008 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, the Brewcrew is choking hard

They’re going to be a terrible playoff team, if they make it…

by rencelas on Jul 30, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm outta here

go Cards!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

is KMac trying to hit him?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

getting him off the plate

for the slider away

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah that didnt work out so well

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This friggin pen never makes it simple

Good god.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 30, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

another 0-2 lost

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 30, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we should bring in Flores

I hear he does really well with inherited runners

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

flores be in memphis

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 30, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

bringing out the RV

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 30, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, Braves announcers said

that Tim Hudson is telling reporters that despite being told he needs surgery, he’s going to pitch anyways this year.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

may or may not be

a lot of times, if it’s already broken, you can’t hurt it a whole lot more by continuing to use it. (disclaimer, my sole medical education is from sports blogs) If he can still pitch effectively (big IF), then why the heck not?

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually when the doc suspected my tear

in my labrum they let me do full release work for two more months..so u may not be far off

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess your right

but if he does hurt it more, it would imagine it would be borderline career threatening

by riotmute on Jul 30, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i had two

tears in different types of cartilage and a crease i just found out about..not sure hwat was done with the extra two months who knows.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad mix of brains/balls

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Jul 30, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK Villone

you are a LOOGY. so do your freaking job

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

villone scares the hell out of me.

"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre

by el_duderino on Jul 30, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Stupid dedication to L on L

Kotchman kills lefthanded pitching.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 30, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

way outside

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

niiiiiiiiiiice job Villone

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes!

Why don't you just make like a tree, and get out of here?

by the red baron on Jul 30, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Izzy (gulp) to pitch the 9th

we need more runs

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

are they really

going to pitch mike freaking hampton tomorrow?

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 30, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta get something

out of that 8 year 121,000,000 contract

by madeintaiwan on Jul 30, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braves were paying 35.5 mil of 85.5 mil when they got him

Marlins/Rockies paying rest.

Sucks for everyone involved.

by TheBirds on Jul 30, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

not as bad

as american idle carl pavano. espn said pavano was “gathering interest” from a few clubs…i had to laugh

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 30, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did set up PU earlier

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

and didn't hit into a DP here

what more do you want?

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

last series they played

I believe

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

fashionistas?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 30, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

They usually match

I believe that it’s a combo of two things 1) sweat from the heat or 2) they are wearing the ‘Cool Flo’ unis, which are see through and the grey undershirts are creating the discoloration.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Walk Pujols with him 0-1. Cox, you gargle.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 30, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

at least Albert won't

have to duck

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Al doesn't want us to score so Izzy can get a save!

Why I hate the Closer and the Save as a position and a statistic.

by TheBirds on Jul 30, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

ncie RBI LUD

just what we needed

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

we just entered the

save-free zone

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 30, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the late-inning runs

who had the post about that last week? Can we give him credit for the anti-jinx?

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

almost

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

check his hat!

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 30, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he loses his glove too!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worst. Bullpen. Ever.

the Braves’ that is.

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

nice to hear someone say that about a team besides the Cardinals!

n/t

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

we’re not #30, we’re not #30, we’re not #30

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 30, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joey Bombs!

Imagine if he gained 20 lbs of muscle.

by TheBirds on Jul 30, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Nick really needs a nickname

if he is ever gonna stick!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stav infection

I came up with it first. Once it catches on, just remember it was ol’ Mr Redbird who came up with it

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 31, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

anyone else think

stavinoha and villone look kind of alike?

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 30, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait...

would you be able to see lil’ miles without a microscope?

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 30, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No i meant Lil' Miles

He’s Miles’ little brother. Therefore Lil’ Miles. It’s funny. It’s like calling a short guy “Stretch” or a fat guy “Tiny”.

by Tackle Box on Jul 31, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never understood why the heck a manager would bring in a bullpen guy

who has just warmed up, practiced all the right pitches… them has them hand out an IBB to the first batter. WHY NOT JUST USE THE GUY YOU’RE REPLACING Is there any statistical evidence that proves this messes with the pitcher?

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

and didn't we have a discussion on that?

it wasn’t a balk, but like if a pitcher put his hand to his mouth, the batter is rewarded first base. The problem was that if you do it repeatedly you have to pay a fine and you could be ejected

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

sutcliffe just called out Harden

other announcer he can be brilliant” Sutcliffe he can be briliant but for only 5 innings you can’t have 3 starters like that

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

what?

Sutcliffe making sense? Must be off the sauce

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

MATTY!

What are you still doing out here in San Diego?

by Tackle Box on Jul 30, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

for a minute there i was a bit confused

Matty V!

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boy, Villone's efficiency has really dropped this inning

it took him five pitches to get one out!

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

SKip out with a hamstring cramp

codeword for traded?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Gameday reports Skip injured his leg

TV guys saying what it is

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is this guy wearing #27

and what has he done with Ron Villone?

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

probably john jay

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 30, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like jay

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brian Barton, aka The Crabman

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

For being a terrible outfielder

Nick sure the hell did a good job backing up Joey

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 30, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

1st XBH for the Braves tonite

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did Carp look?

His line looks alright. Kind of a low K%. Thoughts? Observations?

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 30, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

issues locating

solid velo, settled into a groove late

about as expected. pitched admirably out of a couple jams

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

shakey control to start...

settled down and had a nice fourth (and last) inning – 2K’s and a groundout.

by longhornscardinals on Jul 30, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

his control was an issue

but his fastball was 91-93 on gameday. his last inning might actually have been his best, and some here were confused as to why he was lifted for a PH in the cards’ 5th. thought he could have gone another inning even on a strict pitch count – his count was in the mid-60s when he was pulled.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 30, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

winner winner

chicken dinner

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 30, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Yummy!

More please!

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Jul 30, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND THAT'S A WINNER!!!!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 30, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

TAW!

get your brooms out for hampton boys

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 30, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Not a save situation...

I don’t think.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jul 30, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

according to Pat Parris…Villone gets the save.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jul 30, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

he came into the game with a 3 run lead and got 4 outs,

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Jul 30, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently

I wasn’t paying attention in the 8th…thanks for the update.

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by player2bnamedl8r on Jul 30, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

improving our road record

31-24, second only to LAA in the ML

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by gocards62 on Jul 30, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

So, who plays CF tomorrow?

Ankiel is unavailable until Friday, Skippy has a strained hamstring. Is it Mather, Ludwick and Stavinoha?

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Mather

Played tonight and played some at AAA

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone else seen this?


Joe Mather
Head Coach

Joe Mather graduated from Mountain Pointe in 2001. While in high school he lettered in basketball and baseball. Additionally, Joe was a Scholar Athlete all four years. In 2001 Joe was the Central Region player of the year as well as being a high school All-American. Joe was drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team in 2001. He was selected in the third round and was the one hundred fourth overall pick that year. Currently Joe is still in the Cardinals organization unmarried and available.

http://www.tuhsd.k12.az.us/mtp/sports/Baseball/coaches.htm

Availible? Ha!

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

and that must be the richest school ever.

9 baseball coaches! I wonder how many area paid.

by Tackle Box on Jul 30, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

most high school coaches are teachers

they aren’t getting paid to coach.

atleast thats how my HS was.

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by Raconteur on Jul 30, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes they do.

take it from someone who is a teacher and a coach. I actually was with a rather poor high school last year and volunteered as an assistant varisty coach. We had a total of 4 paid coaches (1 head with 2 volunteer varisty, 1 sophmore, and 2 freshman A and B teams), but in our conference it was typical to see 6 or 7 paid baseball coaches per high school.

It’s called a stipend. Depends on whether its a head or assistant position and also depends on years. Usually ranges anywhere from 3 to 10 thousand dollars.

Btw, do you really think coaches would put in an extra 30 hours a week (and that’s a low estimate) and not get paid for their services? Especially considering the amount of shit they take from the community? If they weren’t paid, very few people would do it for more than a few years.

by Tackle Box on Jul 30, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, I didn't know that

I just assumed they didn’t get paid.

I do know some people who would coach even if they didn’t get paid. They just love the game and want to be around it. But in general, that makes sense, high school coaches do take a lot of shit with all the politics involved in high school sports (wah wah why isn’t my kid starting?)

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 30, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's partly the politics

but just consider the hours. Sure, some people might do it, but teachers actually have the schedule to do it.

Just to show you what we did this past year. All winter we had offseason workouts Tuesday and Thursday from 6am to 7:30. Then once the “season” started, we held practice from 5:15am to 7:45 Monday through Friday and then another 2 1/2 hours at some point on Saturday. Btw, we had to do it in the morning due to weather. When you’re in the Chicago suburbs and the snow doesn’t melt until the middle of April, you’ve got to be flexible.

Then once the games started, since we still had freezing issues and rain and stuff, we would practice at 5:15 in the morning and then possibly play a game that afternoon. We had to do it that way because we couldn’t take the chance of not playing or practicing for a series of days in a row. (btw, we practiced outside exactly 1 time before our first game and that was an abbreviated practice on our football field which has Field Turf and it was about 40 degrees) Oh, and the games start a 4:30 and usually take 2 to 2 1/2 hours to complete. Then if you’re at home, you have to dress the field (tarps, rake the field, etc), and then call in the stats to the newspapers. If you’re on the road, you’re driving the bus back to school. Either way, you’re getting out of there around 7 often later.

So, I get it when I hear people say they’d coach for free or whatever, but they often don’t know what goes in to it. Then, as you pointed out, you’ve got parents and players issues on top of all of that.

by Tackle Box on Jul 30, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morning, guys. From Phnom Penh, Cambodia.

Just got on – Internet slower than the glaciers, but good win. Draft beer costs $1 and life is otherwise good. Overall, were you pleased by Carp’s start? Have at it and keep the aliens informed. . .

Best

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HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 30, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Overall

Yeah, especially if he feels good tomorrow. I think they rushed him back. A major league start has more intensity than a rehab start in the minors. To a guy like Carpenter, a game like tonight’s “counts,” unlike a game at AA or AAA. Some people here thought he was pulled prematurely, after 67 pitches, largely because the speculation before the game had him on a 75-80 pitch count. Plus his last inning (4th) was his best.

He wasn’t Cy Carp, but he threw some good pitches. If you look at a box score you’ll see he walked several guys, struck out one. Braves put a lot of runners on base but didn’t hit many balls hard. If he’s healthy tomorrow, it was a very good step forward.

Great to see him pitching again. I bet I was not alone in busting my rear to get home from work to see him throw his first pitch.

by Youneverknow on Jul 30, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp's start was good

he had trouble locating the fastball, and a lot of trouble locating the curveball, but he showed his good old poise and intelligence, and pitched around jams, and certainly looked a lot more mlb ready than Boggs. I saw no signs that he won’t be himself again by the end of August.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 30, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw...

are you heading out to Ankor Wat? I always wanted to go there.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 30, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

i was at the memphis game, front and center, it was his best pitch. i’m surprised he struggled w it tonight, but his changeup was better. all in all not too shabby

by kalmavet on Jul 30, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did throw a few really nice curves that they showed on baseball tonight

but he must not have thrown that pitch much. good to hear he has a kickass changeup though!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2008 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It broke really hard and looked nice

it was just all over the place. To be fair, even in 2005, you could tell his ok starts from his good ones mainly by location on the curveball.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 31, 2008 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

i love this time of year

any time someones pulled they speculate.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 30, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope we go all out tomorrow

and Tony doesn’t put in some super weird lineup to give the regulars some rest. We need and should sweep the Braves. Carp pitched well tonight, offense is on a roll and overall things are good. Funny the ups and downs we have had over the past couple weeks

by riotmute on Jul 30, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

with Ank hurt and possibly Skip

I think you’re destined to see a weird lineup.

by Tackle Box on Jul 30, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I just meant

I don’t want to see Kennedy at first and Ludwick leading off!

by riotmute on Jul 30, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, Rasmus must be pissed

if he was healthy , he’d be in the major leagues right now.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 30, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I’m not going to the game tomorrow to see Pujols sit!

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

offense is on a roll

because we’re playing the Braves. although if they can keep it up, it will help us greatly during the Phillies series

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2008 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Tigers bullpen

makes our bullpen look amazing.

Seriously, those guys are downright awful.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 30, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

worst. bullpen. ever.

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2008 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Random observation....

Aug 18…Aug 21
Aug 25…Aug 27

4 days off….if they wanted to Cards could start a 4 man rotation from Aug 15 to Aug 31…

by stanchar on Jul 30, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

A little trade speculation

according to Memphis announcers, Jaime Garcia isn’t with the team today in Fresno.

Trade? Or in the process of being called up to be another lefty out of the pen? YOU DECIDE!

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 30, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Garcia is a pretty big chip

Bigger than Will Ohman, I know Colorado was looking for a young starter for Fuentes

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 30, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I admit I will be pretty upset if we decide to trade him for Fuentes or obviously Ohman. I would think he would be on his way up and Stav would be going down but I’m not sure why I expect that to be the case

by riotmute on Jul 30, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuentes might do well as a Card

Better coaching. That would give you a closer that might see an opportunity to give his best stuff. I wonder if the Pavano rumor wasn’t the Yankee’s trying to buy Lohse. Get Pavano for free for two years probably. He will never pitch for the Yanks. That type of move doesn’t go against the Luxury tax.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 30, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

wild speculation

yankee have got out there check book. what else is there?

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right now we are pretty much tied for the Wild Card

If Mo got rid of Lohse to the Yankees for Pavano tomorrow I would hope Mo would resign on the spot and take whatever beating he gets from the fans & the team (Tony & the players).

by KYCards on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more.

Mo asking for a number from Lohse in the paper recently, is also never done. He is doing strange things.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 31, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just trying to make sense

of the rumor. The Yankees want pitching, money is no object. Cards are a mystery to me.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

and youre a mystery to us all

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 31, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you em

someone put a rumor in this thread. I couldn’t make sense out of it.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i rather enjoy reading your comments

even if sometimes they don’t make sense to me and many others on this site, but they are much better than most comments over on the Card’s talk forums. i go over there for a laugh every once in awhile

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 31, 2008 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do we want Manny going to Florida

since we still have to face the Marlins 7 times this season? They were a tough team before but if they get Manny they will be an offensive explosion waiting to happen. Plus they are a serious threat to our wild card chances. I can just see Manny becoming the next big Cardinal killer….ugh.

by KYCards on Jul 30, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

doesn't really matter what we want :P

from what i’m reading, they’ve come to a tentative agreement, so it sounds like that deal is going down.

I’m shocked, you don’t often see 3 Team Blockbuster trades.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, if this goes through

the Red Sox will be part of the last two 3 team trades. This one and the Nomar trade.

by Tackle Box on Jul 31, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

the redsox have been getting worked

it a huge gamble. maybe its time to shake things up. they’re more confident in drew now.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I don’t want him to go to the Marlins just for that fact, the wild card action (and us playing them 7 times still).

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone think the Brewers might fire Yost after this choke job

they are doing against the Cubs at home? Yost looked like a deer in headlights throught most of the game tonight and most of this series. If I were the Brewers and was going all out to make the playoffs I would fire this guy after this Cubs series and get someone with playoff experience.

by KYCards on Jul 31, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

No chance

the cubs have just stepped up.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know it won't happen...but I would find it funny.

But the Brewers would do themselves a favor by getting rid of that putz and getting someone with more experience of managing a team trying to make the playoffs. Not sure who they could get right now but Yost seems like the worst guy for this team right now. But hey I hope they keep him and they choke themselves right out of the race here in the next several weeks.

by KYCards on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was very surprised they didn't fire him earlier this season when they were underperforming

I still think a better manager would have the best record in MLB with the Brewers, but he’s done a better job since they were swept in Boston

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we were the team or at least Izzy

that saved Yost his job. There were alot of rumors that he was going to be fired in May if the Brewers lost that series to us. And of course Izzy blew a couple of games and Yost was let off the hook. We have really handed the Brewers a lot of wins this year with our bullpen.

by KYCards on Jul 31, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe losing that series

will work out for us, since they are keeping Ned around

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2008 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?

bes record, with 2 guys batting under .230?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2008 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well at least he won't have to travel far to go to his new team.

Just walk over to the visitors clubhouse. I think that would be a weird feeling.

by KYCards on Jul 31, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there something in that story or info from somewhere else that I missed?

The story just makes it sound like he’s likely to be traded to one of five teams, including the Cards. Is there something else saying they’re out and we’re in?

I’d certainly be happy to see him here, especially if its just for a low level prospect.

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't think that's the right story or something

Nothing saying the deal is practically done with the Cards

by saladdays on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAH! They changed the articles wording

before, it said something along the lines of

“Ohman is expected to be traded to the Cardinals tomorrow for a low to mid level prospect”

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 31, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that's kind of crappy of them to not note the change in status

I wonder if some tentative deal fell apart or if the reporter was just full of it from the start. I hope it does end up happening, anyway.

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 31, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

my guess would be the latter

i hope it happens also though, we could really use Ohman.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 31, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so

He has really great numbers for the year

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still think some sort of deal is going to happen by 4:00 p.m.

Don’t have a clue what, but it seems like the Cards always do something.

by saladdays on Jul 31, 2008 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

With us winning 3 in a row and the Brewers loosing 3 to the Cubs

I think we are going to do something as well. And we should…we have somw big series coming up against the Cubs, Brewers, Phillies, Marlins… teams that are fighting for either the division or the wild card. We are STILL right in the thick of it. And yes he have some big holes…but we also might be only a player or two away from at least winning the wild card. It would make no sense to just give up and HOPE we are in this position in 2009 & 2010. With Carp coming back and maybe being an actual effective starter for us…my promises have gone up from a week ago. Now I don’t want to sell the farm…but from looking at some of these trades going on in baseball over the past couple of days…teams are not having to sell the farm to pick up a good player.

by KYCards on Jul 31, 2008 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we can get say Ohman, Renteria & maybe another bullpen arm

without having to trade away our big prospects I like our chances alot more. And I think we can pick some of these guys up without having to trade away the farm. But will Mo do it?

by KYCards on Jul 31, 2008 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But that was when Jock was the GM

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 31, 2008 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Phelps

is absolutely MASHING right now. 6 homers in his last 3 games and his average is up in the 280’s. I’m somewhat surprised no one has come calling for him… he’d be a nice power bat off the bench. He wouldn’t bring a great return or anything most likely but I’m sure there’s someone out there who may want his services.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

Seriously... what were Rich Harden's parents thinking?!?!?!

by stltrav09 on Jul 31, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

how can the twins

let hernandez take the mound with lirano in AAA..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, it sounds like the big AL East clubs

have Ohman surrounded. He would be a terrific LOOGy, but he’s a rental. Who knows what the price is, but evidently we’ve dropped out of the bidding.

The Orioles front has been very quiet, though there were inside-the-organization rumors over a week ago that Brian Roberts was going to be a Cardinal—before George Sherrill’s name was tossed in the mix. My guess is this one is dead, as Angelos is too hard to deal with when there isn’t a deadline.

I suspect we’re going to try again on Burnett, regardless of Ricciardi’s statements or Scott Rolen’s shoulder. Dark horse candidate for major trade.

I’m glad the Bay thing disappeared, but I have to wonder if the fact that we hung around Pittsburgh so long means we are actually serious about Holliday, not just Fuentes. Based upon Strauss’s statements today (reminding everyone of the “nobody should be untradeable” comment by Luhnow), I think the chance of doing this deal is higher than it has been in the past week. Whether that’s a good thing or not, I don’t know.

If they land Holliday, I do hope they’ve got the plan mapped out to control payroll in the future. A Fort Knox-level re-signing of Pujols is coming in three years. Free agent pitchers are getting ridiculous money, and Dave Duncan needs a raise and some better raw material. On top of that, Rick Ankiel will be a free agent after next year. I assume Mo knows what he’s doing. But is the marginal benefit of having Holliday in left field really worth it?

I’m going to vote for signing Burnett with a waiver of the opt-out. Add any of the LOOGys on the market, and we can worry about a bat in the offseason.

JMHO.

P.S. I really hope Mo surprises us all with something out of left field, like Placido Polanco. Hey, why not?

by Red in Chicago on Jul 31, 2008 1:59 AM EDT reply actions  

If we miss out on Ohman

I hope it’s not because the Braves get starstruck by trading with the Yankees or Red Sox and get some low level prospect that just because they are in the Yankees or Red Sox farm system …they think they are gold. I know John Schuerholz wouldn’t get starstuck but I’m not sure about their new GM. I think they got kind of robbed on the Teixeria deal.

But Ohman is not worth a top prospect anyways so if other teams want to be foolish…let them.

by KYCards on Jul 31, 2008 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I hope it's smoke

Ohman’s opponent BA in close-and-late situations this year is .109. We can use that kind of manliness.

by Red in Chicago on Jul 31, 2008 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Out of left field

Get me Ronnie Belliard

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 31, 2008 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Neither Holliday nor Fuentes are going anywhere

the Rocks are not looking for pitchers. They have a legit chance to win the division.

by Tackle Box on Jul 31, 2008 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I expect Belly-Lard

is (still) available to play second or shallow right field. Bats .225 or something, but slugs like .400.

by Red in Chicago on Jul 31, 2008 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry.

I just saw you said “REAL” middle-infielder. Never mind.

by Red in Chicago on Jul 31, 2008 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heck

can we just get Hector Luna back??

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

Seriously... what were Rich Harden's parents thinking?!?!?!

by stltrav09 on Jul 31, 2008 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to ruin your day

I’d like to point out that if our bullpen wasn’t awful and had actually held a lead (or not given up insurance) in the 8th inning or later vs the Brewers in these games:

April 17th
May 9
May 11
July 21
July 22
July 24

the Brewers would be playing tomorrow vs the Cubs to avoid falling 11 games out of 1st place in the division.

Even if it were half of those, the Brewers would be thinking about being sellers at 8 games behind the Cubs and 7 games behind the Cardinals after tomorrow afternoon’s game.

How ridiculous is that? The only reason they are even still in this thing is because Jason Isringhausen, Ryan Franklin and Randy Flores aren’t very good.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 31, 2008 3:36 AM EDT reply actions  

It's also the only reason Yost is still employed.

I can’t help but think if we could somehow get one or two bullpen upgrades and maybe Renteria tomorrow…the wild card is ours for the taking. Maybe my hopes are too hight because we beat the Atlanta AAA team…but as long as Mo doesn’t do anything STUPID and Carp is really back we still have a good shot at October if he can just pick up a few pieces that won’t kill our future.

by KYCards on Jul 31, 2008 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those games aren't coming back

that’s the problem. We don’t get to make up those games from here on out, instead we are treated to Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Cubs for something like 20 of our final games left.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 31, 2008 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The more games agains tthe cubs, the better

their lead isn’t all that insurmountable, esp. if we havea bunch of games against them. If we can’t beat them head to head, then we don’t deserve to be near the top of this division

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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