Game 110 Open Thread- 30th July, 2008
by the red baron on Jul 30, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
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Carpenter Jurrjens
0-0, 0.00 10-5, 3.02
A phoenix rising
A team refusing to die
And returns an ace
or
The wounded ace comes
Slouching toward Atlanta
Yearning to be born
I couldn't figure out which one I liked better, and I figured we could use all the luck we could get for Carp tonight, so I decided to include both.
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Let me be the first to vote
For the first one.
Hell Yes.
Go Cards.
by thefutureofamerica on Jul 30, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions
Joe Strauss just said
that even though Mo disagrees with this characterization, people around the ballpark are saying to ‘expect Will Ohman to just walk to the other side of the field after tonight’s game’.
Meaning, with Flores going down, Will Ohman is being acquired.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
Probably one of the cheaper LHP options at this point.....
I’m okay with that. Sure wish we were looking to do something else too, but I’ll take what I can get.
Anybody know his contract status?
I’d like this deal even more if he were signed for another year or two.
Hopefully we can resign him.....
We’ll definitely have a hole from the left side in the pen next year. Give him 2-3 years, and lets be done with it.
why give a LOOGY 2-3 years?
we picked up Villone for free. The problem the Cardinals had was a) TJ got hurt and b) they thought Flores would be decent.
Flores and Franklin should be proof
that you shouldn’t give middle relievers/setup men anything more than a 1Yr contract.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
He isn't just a LOOGY.....
He’s a pretty good MR, overall. And if we don’t offer him a longer deal, somebody else will, and we’ll end up with crap again.
Type A is questionable
but he’ll be at least a Type B for sure.
by rockin the red on Jul 30, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
while Ohman would certainly be an upgrade from the left side of the pen
hopefully the manager doesn’t try to use him versus a ton of righties, and it still doesn’t solve our closer problem.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Call me crazy
But I really did see this coming
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 30, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously,
is there a more perfectly named reliever that ‘Oh-Man!’
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Edgar
Jair Jurrjens was the key piece of the deal Detroit sent to the Braves. Which is why it make acquiring Edgar difficult if they want a return on the level of Jurrjens.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Doesn't work that way
look at the Tex deal.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Strauss also said the Jason Bay thing is legit
meaning, the Cardinals are interested but the Rays have a MUCH better chance at getting the deal done.
The Pirates GM (or assistant GM) was on XM Radio last night, as I was listening, and he said that they have had 4 chances to trade Bay since they took over. Last off-season, this deadline, next off-season and next deadline.
I bring this up, because, if the Rays back out…some would say that Bay would fall into the Cardinals lap. That’s probably not true, as they could simply just pull him off the market until next year.
Then trade for Matt Morris.
Or, wait.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions
that is cold man
cold.
Matt deserves better than that.
Pittsburgh….not so much
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Ole’ Matt is doing just fine.
After his exit from the Pirates he’s been back in Cards camp hanging out while getting that nice paycheck from Pitt. He’s been roaming Jupiter, A and AA games.
Morris knows where his loyalties lie
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda like Matt Morris
I didn’t think HL was slamming Matt, I just had to take my chance to slam the Pirates. I
It must be nice picking up the rest of that 10M for doing next to nothing.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Golf and watching baseball for 10m is damn nice.
though I have a gut feeling that if Morris could play ball physically, he would
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Bay Rumor
If you want a good place to keep track of the discussions surrounding Bay, including the Cardinals, Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has a running blog that has updates on the subject. His last post at 6:03 ET:
A source on the scene in San Diego, where Arizona is playing, emails me with definitive word that the Diamondbacks are not a player for Bay. And this is not speculation. Moreover, it sounds like the Diamondbacks might never have been a player for Bay. ... One wonders how many suitors there actually are beyond Tampa and St. LouisWe might actually have a chance if the Pirates really want to move him. Pittsburgh is going to want a bounty, though, which leads me to believe that Chris Perez and Jaime Garcia are going to have to be part of the deal.
by rockin the red on Jul 30, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
pass
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
we need a middle infielder that puts up offense. I just don’t get making a deal for an outfielder unless their offensive prowess is near hall of fame status… Our outfield is more than adequate.
If we’re going to utilize those trade chips, I’d rather wait until the offseason when we’d have a better chance at upgrading SS or 2B.
My opinion
is that there is only one team in the hunt for Bay and that is Tampa. It seems that some GM’s like to raise the stakes on things to get what they want. Maybe they are trying to pry a big prospect (Price) from the Rays for Bay and maybe someone else (Wilson or Grabow) .
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 30, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i really want noting to do with Bay
i’ve watched him in Pitt all these years & i just dont see why theres all this fuss around the guy.
the Cards right now have better OFs on the roster than him. he’s not an upgrade. all he’ll do is strip our farm system of talent that quite frankly we cannot afford to lose.
pass, pass, pass. a thousand times pass
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I’d say we’re in the mix as a leverage piece only.
We may even be happily apart of the leverage piece to use on a trade that is completely unrelated. Act like we have a backup plan on Bay, or act as if our prospects have value in the Bay talks to amp them for another team/piece.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The Red Sox?
Peter Gammons suggested on BBTN a few minutes ago that the Sox would go after Bay if they can move Manny.
It makes my heart happy ...
... and my nerves tense to see Carp’s photo back at the top of a game thread. Here’s hoping it goes smoothly and he leaves the game when he chooses and with a smile.
Carpenter tonight...
... I’m downright giddy… but I have to admit I’ve become downright jaded when it comes to injured players returning from extended DL stints.
I'd say it depends on how smooth the first few innings go
but look for the 80s range on when he’s exiting
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i sometimes cook during a game,
and this’ll be one of those few occasions in which i try to take my breaks when we’re on defense rather than offense.
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
haha
im going to go on a franklin run, when we are on offense…the bottom 3rd of course…normally its when we are pitching
GO CARP
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If we are on offense in the bottom of the 3rd
this game might get rained out because that means they are in STL
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 30, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
bottom 3rd of the order i ment
didnt mess that up as bad as i thought reading it again
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
gotcha
my fault
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 30, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, don't get me wrong.
i’ve already picked up a case of franklins. the rest’ll be history.
play ball!
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
good lord i'm nervous
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Anyone else suprised that Flores
was sent down after having perhaps his best performance of the year?
I am surprised, but still happy.
I am still hoping this means Ohman.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i'm surprised it took this long
seriously
nice start Skippy
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
you and me both
I would have put a +1 , but that might have started a neverending reply section
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
+11?
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
oh god
its the STRIIIIII-T-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE umpire
nice double skip
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
skippEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions
Manny to Marlins
Multipe baseball sources say the Red Sox are on the verge of sending disgrunted left fielder Manny Ramirez to the Marlins in a trade for a package of three players that included low Class A Greensboro outfielder Mike Stanton, an 18-year-old who is hitting .275/.351/.569 with 26 home runs in 96 games.
anybody got another link for this?
isn’t loading for me…
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
that sucks
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
didn’t know you thought that
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
oh Albert
you can do better than that can’t you?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
just like the last couple of games
watch out for his 2nd and 3rd at bats
he is going to go long
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
imagine that
that whole sale fiasco confirmed my belief in crooked Bud
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
an X used car salesman crooked?
say it ain’t so!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I wanna see Carp bat before he pitches
...doesn’t seem to likely with that pop-out…
by BTown Birds fan on Jul 30, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
Out of the ashes
arose a Carpenter ace
hurling pitches strike
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions
that was a good pitcy
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
pitch
fuck
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
was close
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
glad someone else besides me
calls him “santa glaus.”
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
yeah, he's kind of a big deal
people know santa
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
everyone was calling him that at one point
well, almost everyone
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
he's only santa when he delivers
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe you were naughty?
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
probably
I’ve been out of the country for a while, so I’m excused.
I Hope.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
every time i see him refered to him as Santa on here
it makes me think of this
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Man, Troy has looked awful lately
he may be the streakiest player i’ve ever seen
boo cubs, hooray beer
He was sitting slider
all the way on that pitch.
Can we say No. Hope. In. Hell.?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
he blew that right by Santa
no gifts in our stockings tonight
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
He Wont!...
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He's better
than the guy who just kind of stands there thinking about it for ten seconds and then just kind of half-heartedly points.
that would be the "best ump in the game"
at least voted on by the players & coaches
Tim McClelland
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
alright, here we go
every one hold on to your butts
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Man
it’s been a long ass time since I’ve seen Carp have issues locating.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
he will get R done
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
command is going to be a problem
for a couple starts
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 30, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
i really wish he could have had a few more starts in the minors
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
good point...
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
so, so long...
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
speculation is he will start on Friday
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 30, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
last news i heard was yesterday & he still could not run
they should not screw around & just DL him till he’s 100%
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
that would be too normal
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that was a solid pitch
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
holy christ, that's glorious.
how long’ve you been sitting on that one? =)
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
aayyyyyy-meeen!
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
nice
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
good inning
not great, but very good start
get some runs off the kid O
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
how does he look
stuck at work no t.v.
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 30, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
missed location with fastballs to the leadoff hitter.
threw a pretty filthy changeup to on of the lefties.
15 pitches
ran through the entire arsenal. Location starting coming in. So far, so good.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
How many pitches was that
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 30, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
15
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
threw a cutter at 88mph
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 30, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Gameday says
90-91 for Fastballs
73 on the change
86-88 on the slider
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
pretty decent
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp pitches a scoreless first...
Order is restored…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
not quite
Wagonmaker isnt back as our #2
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I have been waiting
since Opening Day last year to see a Carp #1, Waino #2 combo.
Soon.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
it just hit me
we never have seen that.
How sweet will that be?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
he's really calling the outside strike tonight
every one looks like a ball to me
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
not even close
it was on the white of the LF batters box
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
just like that one
he’s getting Maddox’s old strike zone
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
he's no Duncan though
I miss that guys D. Good thing he’ll be back in 2 weeks and Mather will probably be sent down AGAIN.
not so fast
last night FSN MW reported DUNK has numbness in his entire right arm & they cant get the feeling back. he very well could be done for the year
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Musta
We only pounce on rookies around here. Glaus’ K looked soo much better.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could watch the game somewhere :x
"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama
I don't really know who this pitcher is for the Braves
But can we have him too? He looks pretty nice
def outside
god
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
TJ...
turned him into Micah Owings.
by longhornscardinals on Jul 30, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope the batting way, and not the pitching way
he’s getting hit up this year
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp muscling up there
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Carp seems to be pacing himself
he isn’t throwing ‘hard’. Not velocity. I mean actually throwing hard.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
Poor defense
shoulda picked it up foul.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
son of a,,,,
talk about a cheap hit
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
what are you suppossed to expect
side note, that was quick note about the manny trade to fla usually they are a little slower to that stuff
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
First time I saw him
I thought he might be a flash in the pan….then I thought no I’m wrong he’s legit….but maybe not
if i'm Carp
i’m throwing everything away away away. if this umps going to call strikes in the other batters box, dont even come close to throwing it over the plate
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
What happened to Izturis'
fantastic range? Christ, I think Eckstein got to more balls.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions
hard to believe
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
well
jurgens does have a better average than miller
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp having trouble with the fastball still
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions
so mistakes arent lucky?
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
the the right decision would have been to go
and going didnt happen, i call it luck
you can call it whatever you want
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 30, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp already needs a new hat & jersey
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Getting out of that situation
is Ace like. Facing this Braves lineup, however, notches it down a grade.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
fair enough
so #2 like.
Considering the context of the situation.
That’s brilliant.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a good indication
that he’s close, but he still needs work.
his location isn’t spot on, but at this point we cant expect it to be
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
They haven't really hit him all that well
Just not quite missing bats like he used to. He’ll get there.
I think you should have gone with
“The Return of the King”
for the title of today’s game, guess I’m about 45 mins late on making that suggestion though
If we do make a move at the deadline
can we please get a shortstop?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
No.
Shortstops are not allowed on the team.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 30, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
my disdain for IZ2 goes ever stronger
day by day
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
frustrating
I’m not getting a feel for how Carp is doing, listening the Shannon, who is barely giving me enough to keep a scorebook if I had one. Nothing about whether he looks crisp… etc
sorry, but they are full of it
Mo has already been pretty firm on his anti-Bonds statements
boo cubs, hooray beer
If he consulted TLR
the answer would be “HELL YES!”
by Red in Chicago on Jul 30, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't look like they've been driving the ball against Carp so far
that’s a good sign….would like to see him strike out a few guys tho.
I wouldn't
he’s clearly not going to be on so no need on trying to beat batters. K’s usually drive up pitch counts
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
except it seems that Izturis'
range is downright awful these days.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ever since that hammy, his range is really reduced
and it was debatable well before the hammy who was better in D, Iz or Ryan.
Ryan, at the moment, easily.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he was robbed there
a shockingly good at by AK
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
hit one outta there AK7
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
Adam Kennedy is so terrible, it's unfathomable
how can you have him and Iz2 in the same lineup? (and i know he got robbed of a hit there, but he still sucks)
boo cubs, hooray beer
Well
the double lead off this inning sucked shit, hopefully the rat pack next inning can do something instead.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions
poor Peter Gammons
I thought he was going to suffer another major illness right on camera, when he was arguing with Steve Phillips about Manny, on ESPN. Gammons was remote, otherwise I think he would have slapped Phillips one.
Yeah
what I’m seeing is Manny to Florida, Bay to Boston, Hermida to Pittsburgh.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
here's next year's options at SS
Orlando Cabrera (34)
David Eckstein (34)
Adam Everett (32)
Rafael Furcal (31)
Nomar Garciaparra (35)
Cesar Izturis (29)
Felipe Lopez (29)
Edgar Renteria (33) – $12MM club option for ‘09 with a $3MM buyout
Juan Uribe (30)
Omar Vizquel (42) – $5.2MM club option for ‘09 with a $0.3MM buyout
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
he's currently on the DL
he can’t stay healthy the past two seasons
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I'd like to but he's becoming more injury prone
depends on how much he cost. 2-3yrs. at 4-7 mil a year would be ok, but that’s way too much money to spend on a shortstop(sarcasm)
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I say go for Vizquel so we can get his offence.
by madeintaiwan on Jul 30, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't there anyone in the minors
we can snag? When will Kozma be ready? Will he stick at short?
by Red in Chicago on Jul 30, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Greene has finally started hitting.
and just got premoted to AAA. He’s got a lot of power and a LOT of speed. Just doesn’t get on base. Still a good talent if he pans out.
Man
these freaking hits are ridiculous from the Braves.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
they are dinkin & dunkin Carp to death out there
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
remember the dinky hits mulder was getting against him and then he got injured
by madeintaiwan on Jul 30, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
just did
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's like Carpenter's fastball
has the same polarity as the strike zone and it refuses to go into the strikezone.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
MLB Rumors says
the Yanks have gotten calls about Carl Pavano…teams are starting to get desperate out there
speaking of rest
has glass shoulder return from his rest? I wonder what plans will be for him next, I don’t see him contributing anything really. I don’t even see why they would try
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
they’re looking for a water boy who makes $8 million a year.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 30, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
are you sure it's not just a lonely Alyssa Milano?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
now you know the prettier the girl
the lonelier she is because all the guys think she’s taken. and or they are afraid to ask her out.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Why the hell was Mather playing on the freaking warning track for Greg Norton?
boo cubs, hooray beer
i thought that was Dave Mccay?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Getting better wood on Carp
this inning. Sure it doesn’t help that he has pitched out of the stretch all game.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions
He always looks worried
if he gives up a hit, he acts like he just made the biggest mistake in the world.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
he cares
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
if IZ2 was your SS & AK was your 2nd baseman
you’d be worried too
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
why
because they won’t get you any runs?
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Little high
but that cutter looked damn good
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions
+1
yes any glimer of hope from him would be super rad
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
ain't gonna happen
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And who could protect pujols
but oh well he’s gonna be a MARLIN, ahahahaha
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
none of the above
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
which is what he's genenerally done
in the rehabs
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
this ump is not doing Carp any favors
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Well
a 6 pitch inning would help! :D
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Effectively wild?
If you don’t throw strikes, they can’t hit ‘em!
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
What's the best pitching performance posted by a player
after coming back from the D.L. either with quite a few, just a few or no rehab starts.
P.S. nice work out of the jam carp
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
Clemens was probably
the most resilient pitcher in recent memory. He came back from Mulder’s surgery in about a year, IIRC.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 30, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of clemens
Anyone here the soundbyte that 590 the fans does with clemens, with all the edits like his kids inject him with steroids, and stuff? funny crap
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitch count aside (we knew going in the hardest thing would be the locating).
1 run, only a solid hit (maybe two) out of the hits, pitched effectively out of trouble.
As long as he’s smiling health wise when done throwing, I’ll be thrilled.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
How bout some Offense now!!!
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 30, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
good work Carp!
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions
This is what I remember about Carpenter
.....gutting it out in tough situations. I agree with the comment about being happy if he finishes tonight and healthy and strong.
cmon Pujols
help yr old buddy Carp out. we have our own CC
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
cuz his name always looks like it's spelled wrong
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Needs to switch to hockey
with that name.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 30, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
dude may win a Cy when its all said and done...
look at his stats, nothing to scoff at.
by longhornscardinals on Jul 30, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he reminds me of the Felix Hernandez kid out in Seattle
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
he looks like him
and right now he’s pitching like him
i’d say its a fair comparison
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
it's not though
i guess their physical appearance is the same, but pitching wise they are nothing alike
boo cubs, hooray beer
What, Atlanta
never produced any Cy Young winners?
by Red in Chicago on Jul 30, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
who else did they give up for renteria?
i thought I remember hearing that gorkys hernandez or something like that
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
wow we really dodged one there, eh?
and I was one for aquiring him. oh well, foot in mouth
by from First to Third on Jul 30, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
craptastic
we have one hit so far… doesn’t matter how carptastic our starting pitching is, we still need runs
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
it's all or nothin for Troy nowadays
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
surprise surprise
Glaus flies out
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
nah
Ludwick and Ankiel have patents on the K
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
he was beat on the fastball looking slider, came in looking slider and got a bit under.
I’d take that at bat over quite a few others as of late.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
for? lol
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
j/k
heh
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hit & Run here w/Yadi?
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Molina
has been striking out more, ever since a big deal was made about him being the toughest hitter in the Majors to strike out
boo cubs, hooray beer
In he last
month: 9 Ks
2 weeks: 8 Ks
1 week: 5 Ks
Not really.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
April – 4
May – 5
June – 3
July -8
He’s climbed a bit in the last month, but so has the pitching (to be fair)
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
July – 9* counting tonight
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the 2008 Cardinals
they can make you happy, but not too happy.
They can win a big game, but then someone gets hurt.
They can hit a go ahead HR late in a game, but then the bullpen coughs it up.
They can blow a team out early, then let them creep back in.
They can have their Ace return, but can’t score any damn runs.
Such is life.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 30, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
damned if you do, damned if you don't
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
gooooood breaker.
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
not if I went to high school
when Wonder Years was on
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
dont you mean Life Goes On?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
settling in?
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
blue sure isn't giving 'em away to carp...
"you know how you pitch mike schmidt? Hard fastballs inside, sliders down and away. you know how you pitch henry aaron? willie mays? Hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch willie stargell? hard stuff inside, soft away. you know how you pitch god? hard stuff inside, then down and away, and if you get it there you'll get him out. even though he'll know it's coming. or at least they say he knows." -jim lefebvre
he plays some decent D
most of the time
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
great inning Carp
nice play AK
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Holy Fuck
that was a smooth and Carp like inning.
More. Please?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 30, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
Let's get some runs, boys
Carp’s pitching his #@* off
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so our rotation is
Carp
Lohse
Welley
Pineiro
Looper
not too bad I guess. I keep wanting to send Looper to the ‘pen, but he keeps proving me wrong about that when I think he’s going to start doing really bad.
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 30, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
amazing
“2 on 1 out and ak up mens trouble”, don’t think the braves announcers are paying attention
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
well, guess they were aftereall
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
deal with the Tigers?
now that Detroit has unloaded Pudge Rodriguez… how about Anderson for Polonco ?
arms full of lightning
cardinals show up with
bats full of thunder
victim of the sixties
by victim of the sixties on Jul 30, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions
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