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that would have been a tough loss to swallow; thankfully, the mets' lefty relief pitcher was as inept as the cards' was. with their 4 hr last night, the cards climbed to 6th place in the national league in that category and now are on pace to whack 170 hr, the same number the pujols-edmonds-rolen-walker-sanders group produced in 2005. they've outhomered their foes 90-75 so far this year, after being badly outhomered each of the last two years.
pineiro got hit pretty hard for the 2nd consecutive start. last night the mets feasted on his fastball. he threw it 32 times (according to gameday), 23 times for strikes; the mets swung at it 16 times and put it into play 10 times, a very high ratio of BIP per swing. (you’d hope to get a higher percentage of foul balls and swing/misses than that.) worse yet, 8 of the balls in play were base hits, 3 for extra bases. . . . . they were getting extremely good looks at his fastball. only one met swung and missed at the pitch --- delgado, who whiffed at it twice in his 5th-inning at-bat. the velocity on pineiro’s fb was normal, right around 89-90 mph, but (understandably) he didn’t throw it nearly as often as he typically does. per fangraphs, he has consistently thrown the #1 about 55 percent of the time over the last four years; last night it accounted for barely over a third of his pitches. in pineiro’s last start, in kansas city (which i witnessed in person), he threw the heater only about 45 percent of the time, although his results with it were decent enough (he did yield a homer and a double off the pitch). pineiro has spent time on the dl this year with shoulder and groin problems; nagging trouble from either injury might rob his fastball of some life --- which, in turn, might explain why he’s backing away from the pitch. i’m just fishing for explanations here; could be way off. but for one reason or another, it’s a fact that he has altered his repertoire the last couple of starts --- he’s not throwing his fastball as much as he usually does. might not mean anything . . . . but still something to look for in his next outing.
moving on to mulder: clearly a mistake to put him into that situation. in addition to all the obvious reasons not to use mulder there, add the fact that carlos delgado (one of the two lefties he was sent in to face) has a .348 / .483 / .565 career line against mulder in 29 plate appearances --- and most of those occurred when mulder was good. i realize the first hit off mulder was another bloop (the 3d cheapie he has yielded in 2 nights), but you can’t really say he was a victim of bad luck last night. he fell behind the first batter 3-1; gave up a solid line drive to delgado; fell behind easley 2-0 before yielding the sac fly (also well hit); and then hit schneider. the bloop was unfortunate, but overall mulder just didn’t make many good pitches; the results were fair. in any case, mulder has never had the ability to throw the ball past hitters since he came to st louis; he has always pitched to contact, counting on the late movement of his pitches to induce weak groundballs. but with his new shoulder and arm angle, mulder can’t keep the ball down nearly as well; instead of topping the ball, hitters (the few we’ve seen so far, anyway) are able to muscle it over the infield. of the 7 balls put in play against him in his two appearances, only 2 have been grounders. that’s not bad luck, it's a reflection of ability --- and, for a pitch-to-contact pitcher, it’s not a formula for success.
how else could tony have played the inning? he could have stayed with mcclellan, who has a very good record vs left-handed hitters (.599 ops against) and at home (.621 ops against). however, kyle needed 17 pitches to get through the first couple of batters of that inning, and he was up to 27 pitches for the game; he has thrown more than 27 in an outing only twice all year. if tony was trying to avoid burning the guy out, it was a good call. but why not villone there for the lefty-lefty matchup? the old geezer has smothered lhb this year, holding them to a .191 average / .298 slugging; over the last 5 years (including 2008) he has faced 561 left-handed hitters and held them to a .208 / .314 / .300 line. villone has only pitched 5 times in the last 3 weeks, facing just 19 batters over that span, and he had a day’s rest under his belt; he ought to have been fresh, no? maybe villone still hasn’t recovered from the beating he absorbed in the 20-2 loss vs philadelphia last month; he threw 66 pitches in that outing, his highest count since 2004 (when he was a starting pitcher), and has appeared in only 5 of the 17 games since. . . . . i also wondered if perhaps tony was saving villone for potential 8th-inning matchups against reyes (a weaker hitter vs left-handers) and chavez --- but if that was his thinking, i disagree w/ it.
hard to know which half of the pitching staff to worry about more at this point, the bullpen or the rotation. i’m still most worried about the latter --- although the starters held it together for a couple of cycles after wainwright and wellemeyer went down, the last two-plus cycles through the rotation haven’t been encouraging. with waino out and wellemeyer ineffective, there’s just not a whole lot to work with; i fear an implosion. re the bullpen --- i’d be all in favor of picking up a left-hander on the cheap, but strongly against yielding one or more big prospects for brian fuentes. as i noted the other day, relievers of his ilk cost a load of talent on the mid-season trade market --- even those heading into free agency. a left-handed specialist just isn’t worth that much to me. HC has mentioned joe beimel as a more affordable target --- that’s the type of guy the cards might get cheap, although i don’t think beimel himself will be dealt (the dodgers are only 1.5 games out of first). but ron mahay might; another possibility is the giants’ jack taschner, although he’s probably due for a regression from his current 2.54 era. the blue jays’ most tradeable lefty, brian tallet, has a wicked reverse split; ditto the mariners’ ryan rowland-smith. i just don’t see a whole lot of options out there on the trade market --- and i’d rather do nothing than overpay for a guy like fuentes, who i’ve watched his entire career out here in denver. i think st louisans would grow to hate him in short order; he’s inconsistent and mistake-prone, capable of losing the strike zone for a week or two at a time.
the cards go for the series win tonight --- tomorrow, the cubs.
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Fastball Performance
Has anyone put together analysis of pitchers’ fastballs. How often they throw it, how often they get a whiff with it, how often the opposing batter gets a base hit off of it? Might be interesting for perspective.
by bgh on Jul 3, 2008 9:27 AM EDT 0 recs
Not what you asked for
but I found these two Josh Kalk studies on fastballs pretty interesting. One on pitcher fatigue and one on an aging curve.
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Jul 3, 2008 9:56 AM EDT
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Thank you
Those are two interesting articles.
So, are you telling me that big league clubs base their decisions on the subjective impressions of scouts instead of looking at the statistics of just how often a pitcher achieves a certain result with a certain pitch? That seems ridiculous to me.
Another topic that these articles bring to mind is how horrible baseball announcers are and baseball journalists. If your job were to sit around all day waiting for the baseball game to start, how would you not stumble upon some information that would allow you to be informative and worth listening to on the radio or TV? You could look at these articles, then cross-reference them with Pitch F/X data, etc., and give some interesting analysis on when it is a certain pitcher generally begins to fatigue and then point out that TLR has left said pitcher in for entirely too long.
by bgh on
Jul 3, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
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I doubt if 90% of the baseball watching audience
Would want to hear an annoucer drone on about pitch F/X data.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 3, 2008 10:08 AM EDT
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You don't even have to cite that data
You can even put it in terms that 90% of the audience would understand.
“Over his career, Joe Pitcher has had problems once he hits the 90-pitch mark. He tends to loose velocity on his fastball and location with his breaking ball. We haven’t seen that here tonight, but keep an eye out for it. You know Tony is.”
Sure, this isn’t that different from what they normally spew in ignorance, but at least have a basis for what you are saying.
by bgh on
Jul 3, 2008 10:14 AM EDT
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Seems to me that
many listeners have no more than a grudging tolerance for their team’s announcers, so if said announcers were providing a little meatier info, it could only help.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Jul 3, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
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Shifts
Another part of the game that they could illuminate without much effort is the use of defensive shifts for certain batters, such as Delgado last night. How hard would it be to look up batted ball data for the opposing club and then, when TLR inevitably uses a drastic shift, say:
“The Cards have shifted three infielders to the right side of the infield with the shortstop on the first base side of second. Delgado hits __% of his grounders to the righthand side and Tony is playing the numbers here. Meanwhile the outfielders play him straightaway because when he gets under that ball, he spreads it to all parts of the outfield.”
by bgh on
Jul 3, 2008 10:32 AM EDT
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Joe average fan doesn't care about that
It’s pretty staggering, but I’d imagine if they started doing any of that stuff they’d get labeled as “pompous” or (irony alert) “pseudo intellectual”.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on
Jul 3, 2008 10:34 AM EDT
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I strongly disagree with that. A pompous announcer who talks down to fans might be a problem, but an announcer they like? Nope. In fact, I think a lot of the standard stupidity a lot of announcers indulge in is insulting to fans’ intelligence. I’ll bet a lot of people would appreciate the announcers offering them a more sophisticated way to watch baseball (and those that don’t could easily ignore it). And if they could add to that just a little more (constructive) criticism of the home team instead of sucking up 100 percent of the time? ... Nirvana!
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Jul 3, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
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I just think about all the
wasted conversation I hear every night … repeating the standard praise for LaRussa/Torre/Pinella/Duncan/whoever that we’ve heard a million times … why not spend that time giving me just five or six additional facts per game? Improvement would not be hard.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Jul 3, 2008 10:44 AM EDT
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Agreed
Every single game I have to hear something about Ankiel’s “story”—who doesn’t know about this already? It’s been documented for nearly 11 months now, so can we drop it and find some other informative information about the team?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jul 3, 2008 11:08 AM EDT
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Except "those that don't" make up 95% of the fan base
It took 140 years for anyone to pay attention that walking was a useful skill and it’s still the extremely interested that even pay attention to that. Like I said, Joe-average fan just wouldn’t want to hear it and I’d guarantee whoever it was would get run into the ground by the fanbase at large.
Here’s how it’d go, they’d report the split like that say 80% of the balls go to the 1B side so we play the shift. Well that 20% to the 3B side is still going to happen 1/5 times and it would…....then Joe-Blow would think “dat show what he know” ignoring sample size, the numbers whatever. People are stupid.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on
Jul 3, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
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People aren't stupid
There are just certain venues for certain discussions. Do we want to get on a blog back-and-forth about statistics? No. Just give the stat on groundballs as an explanation for the shift. If a grounder snakes through the left side, then say, “That’s one of the 20%. Tony gambled and lost this time around.”
by bgh on
Jul 3, 2008 11:27 AM EDT
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This is going nowhere so I'll stop here....
But people are stupid.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on
Jul 3, 2008 11:35 AM EDT
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I tend to agree
in most cases
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 3, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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For the most part
People are stupid. The participants and readers on this site, however, are an aberration—rabid baseball fans who love discussing and debating the intricacies of the game. Aside from casual fans, who go to see home runs and down a dozen beers, even most sportswriters have a shallow understanding of the game, as discussed on this website. If you have any doubts about that, go check out firejoemorgan.com, where sportswriters’ astoundingly stupid comments are pointed out and then lambasted. Russell Martin won the Gold Glove last year for Chrissakes, with the most errors by a catcher, I believe. ( in any event, he had 14).
People are stupid.
by Ray Lankford on
Jul 3, 2008 11:49 AM EDT
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the Gold Glove award is slowly becoming pretty meaningless
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 3, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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Exactly
Because it has no correlation to how good a fielder is due to the stupid people who vote for it.
by Ray Lankford on
Jul 3, 2008 2:27 PM EDT
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is there any award
for just leading the league in fielding percentage at your position?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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Bill James does it
but most don’t really care, and they don’t actually get an award or anything. But he does give a boat load of credit to Pujols as the best defensive player in baseball.
by Tackle Box on
Jul 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
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although it has nothing to do with fielding percentage
and you should know better than to utter those words around this place.
by Tackle Box on
Jul 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
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thanks for the reminder
I’m still getting up to par with these new school, more accurate statistics.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 3, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
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Derek Jeter won it while being among the worst SS's in the league
It is meaningless.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on
Jul 3, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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I strongly disagree with this
most people aren’t stupid. They really aren’t. People are expected to be stupid, and are treated like cattle by society, and it’s a lot easier to act stupid. But when engaged, empowered and not demeaned, people are uniformly quite surprising.
If you give people nothing but stupidity, don’t be surprised when you get stupidity back. I remember when sports fans were much “smarter”, before the ESPN-ification of reporting happened. Now, all that’s happened, is that intelligent fans, gossips and idiots have all created their little fiefdoms on the internet. And we can just complain about “those people over there.”
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Jul 3, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
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also
firejoemorgan does go out of it’s way to cherrypick the absolute worst out of the hundreds and hundreds of column inches of writing that is printed daily.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Jul 3, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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Focus on ESPN.com
There seems to be a focus on ESPN and its website at FJM.com, and it’s understandable. I think that if they took the time to sift through the thousands of column inches printed daily, they could come up with thousands of their own column inches. I think that it is a question of time and manpower. They peruse ESPN.com and are fed other columns and articles are their readership. I don’t think that it’s necessarily going out of their way. I think that their way is dictated by how much time they have to read.
by bgh on
Jul 3, 2008 5:37 PM EDT
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BUT
the stuff they’re fed by their readership is the worst of the worst. That’s why it gets fed to them. And then a subset of that is what they choose to run with.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Jul 3, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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I just don't buy
that level of pessimism. Even now, as bad as the announcing still is, I’m hearing semi-sabermetric comments from announcers all the time, either on national or local broadcasts-things I didn’t hear a decade ago. A little bit of leadership would go a long way … if a few networks or teams would hire and encourage announcers who would ratchet up the level of discussion a little, I think you could see some change pretty quickly. The baseball establishment has always been very conservative about change, that’s why we haven’t seen much leadership in this area. But it really would not take much - a few policy changes by a few players in the media—to have a big effect.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Jul 3, 2008 11:35 AM EDT
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problem is
I think they’ve probably been told to dumb it down for quite a while now, so if they started sounding like a legit baseball head it would be weird for a lot of people. although I’m sure that would wear off pretty quickly as soon as everyone got up to speed, and for those who don’t, I’m sure they’ll still throw in enough nonsense to keep everyone happy.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 3, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
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A different approach coming
from a familiar source is the solution to that problem. You’re not replacing Dan and Al with Rob Neyer, you’re just asking Dan and Al to boost the number of intelligent comments a little. And then you do a little more next year … etc.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Jul 3, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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and if they don't do their homework before the game
give them the axe!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 3, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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The way to introduce
statistical analysis as a PBP man is by using it as a “throw-away” line, such as: “The Cards put the shift on for Delgado… when he hits it on the ground, it goes to the right side X% of the time.” Then, don’t mention the stat again; just continue describing the action.
I’ve broadcast college and high-school baseball for years on radio… I’d love to have such statistical analysis available! (You’re lucky if you can get even standard stats in high school games…) So, I use the Jack Buck School of Baseball method and describe each player’s batting stance, pitching motion, and the like…
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on
Jul 3, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
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I used to call college sports
And painting a visual with your words is very important—the Jack Buck School. Sprinkling in stats is nice as well. It is interesting to find different ways to describe the situation (runners on base, score, inning, outs, count, etc.) so that folks who have just tuned in know what is going on yet folks who have been listening since the first pitch don’t get annoyed. It is not an easy job and preparation is the key. I view lack of preparation as laziness and that is why I think MLB broadcasts should be so much better. The stats and time to research are both available.
by bgh on
Jul 3, 2008 10:46 AM EDT
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If you're witty and cool
like Jack, that can be damned entertaining. But yes, some more in-depth stats would be interesting as hell.
What I can’t wait for is for some team to ask Bill James or someone like that to do analysis for a whole game. (I know, I have a rich fantasy life.)
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Jul 3, 2008 10:47 AM EDT
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Wretched Breed
Another topic that these articles bring to mind is how horrible baseball announcers are and baseball journalists. If your job were to sit around all day waiting for the baseball game to start, how would you not stumble upon some information that would allow you to be informative and worth listening to on the radio or TV?
Because they’re too busy thinking up anecdotes about their shirts and their golf scores. Baseball announcers are for the most part a wretched breed and we have some of the very worst (apologies to Mr. Shannon).
Al and Dan should stick to drink slinging and hockey, respectively. John and Jay should do their bootlicking in silence.
by rowboat on
Jul 3, 2008 12:27 PM EDT
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with as bad as our bullpen has been
at this point in the season, shouldnt we go with out best 7 relievers regardless of if they are righty or lefty ( this is probably unrealistic with tlr as the manager). i guess the problem then becomes realizing who your consistently best 7 are
by truemun12 on Jul 3, 2008 9:35 AM EDT 0 recs
our*
going with out our best 7 relivers would be stupid
by truemun12 on
Jul 3, 2008 9:36 AM EDT
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That's unrealistic
regardless of who the manager is.
THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!
by stltrav09 on
Jul 3, 2008 1:27 PM EDT
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If Mulder can't handle that situation
We need to get him off the roster. We already have a better innings eater in thompson.
by Evilfrog on Jul 3, 2008 9:44 AM EDT 0 recs
I was shocked
I didn’t pay at all close attention last night, but the first time I checked MLB gameday I saw Mulder was pitching in the 7th inning. At first we still had a lead, but then I saw where the Mets put up a crooked number in the 7th and went ahead. I was upset that Mulder was being used two nights in a row (he’s NOT a relief pitcher, he is a starter trying to get healthy enough to start.)
Anyway, that caused me to give up and turn to other interests… so I missed the whole comeback deal.
by the Tewk on
Jul 3, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
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Ryan's socks
Has anyone heard an explination for why Ryan wore his socks like a normal major leaguer last night? Has he accepted that he is a major leaguer now and wanted to dress like it? Just makes you wonder.
by StLHugo on Jul 3, 2008 9:45 AM EDT 0 recs
more than likely
He was just trying to break out of a slump. He’s gone with the normal look a few games. Once because Skippy barrowed his socks to break out a of a slump.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 3, 2008 10:03 AM EDT
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a major leaguer now??
i wish the whole team would go to the high socks, i dig it.
by UNCDubya on
Jul 3, 2008 10:12 AM EDT
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Yeah, it looks right
The Tigers do it, or most of them at least show some stirrup. The painter-pants look doesn’t do anything for me.
by Red in Chicago on
Jul 3, 2008 11:24 AM EDT
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back in the day
Vada Pinson and Frank Robinson were the only two guys on the Reds that were allowed to wear the really high-cut stirrup sock. Where very little, if any, color showed on the calf or the shin, but there were spectacular lines going down the sides. I loved it as a kid; to me it was classy.
I neither like nor understand the modern ‘baggy’ look below the knee. You sometimes see fabric so far down the back of the leg it almost completely covers the heel of a guy’s spike shoe.
I also have an issue with the extra-long trunks basketball players now wear. Why, in god’s name, would you want fabric rubbing against and interfering with your KNEES on a basketball court.
But then, I am old now… and don’t ‘get it.’
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As long as we're complaining about
the look, my peeve is guys like Glaus, Wagonmaker and many others who can’t button the top button on their uniform. If I can see the Cardinal logo on your undershirt, Troy, you’re looking like a slob!
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Jul 3, 2008 2:27 PM EDT
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I tend to agree
I don’t like the unbuttoned look either.
I can deal with the oversized pants and high socks and other stuff, but please button up your shirt.
by Tackle Box on
Jul 3, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
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Rentaria
How about the Rentaria “my uniform is too large for me” look. At least one could get a few cheap HBPs with it.
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by totalloser on
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speaking of buttoning up
gotta love Mo’s style in this picture… no wonder he gets along so well with the stats geeks ;)
"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN
by SleepyCA on
Jul 3, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
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I always loved that photo.
I hope someone has had a talk with him about how that makes him look. Or maybe he’s embracing his inner dork.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
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Geeky
Mo’s pandering to the SABR crowd. Isn’t geekiness in? See Bill Gates.
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by totalloser on
Jul 3, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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Dude
is the white f’ing Erkel.
I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck
by bukowski on
Jul 3, 2008 4:57 PM EDT
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To me, he looks like LaRussa's twin in that photo
Like they were seperated at birth, and one was raised to be a businessman, and the other to be a gritty ballplayer
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by Valatan on
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maybe he figured Barton has that as part of his repertoire now
and he changed it up. either that or he lost his socks!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
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Maybe Moz can dig up
some righthanded reliever(s) who does well against lefties?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jul 3, 2008 9:51 AM EDT 0 recs
Problem
TLR would have to use a righty vs. a lefty, which he has shown no willingness to do (ever in his managerial career, I believe).
by bgh on
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TLR plays the #'s.. we all know that
and 90% of the time, LHP’s do better against LHB’s. So that’s why you don’t see him using RHP’s against LHB’s. In the somewhat rare case when a RHP does have crazy splits against lefties, he will use them. It’s all about the #’s.
So yes RedbirdFreak, I think that’s a good proposition considering the small market for loogys this year.
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by stltrav09 on
Jul 3, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
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Like Kyle McClellan?
bgh is right; while they may exist, Tony won’t use them as such.
by Huck Finn on
Jul 3, 2008 10:06 AM EDT
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He used Josh Kinney
against them, IIRC (limited sample size, obviously, but shows that he might not be completely unwilling to do it).
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Closer and Set-Up Man
If he has a set hurler as closer or set-up, he tends to stick with them through the performance of their role.
In ‘04, Tavarez threw to 83 lefties. In ‘05, to 68. Franklin last year threw to 130 lefties, and to 57 this year.
Not surprisingly, Izzy over the last three seasons has thrown to 281 lefties.
If TLR has a reason to mix and match, he will.
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I had the same thought
Spurred by LBoros comment about Tallet having a wicked reverse split, I wondered if there weren’t some RHRPs out there (a cheaper commodity) that handle lefties particularly well. I did a little cursory poking (during my lunch hour, so quick and dirty… the poking, not the lunch… well, ok, the lunch too) around for guys that fit that profile, aren’t promising young guns that a team would want to keep and who play for teams that are pretty likely to be sellers:
Saul Rivera, Nats – 30-yrs old. Against LHBs: .236 BAA, .586 OPSA in 106ABs; 3-yr splits: .240 BAA, .660 OPSA – 242 ABs
Matt Herges, Rocs – 38-yrs old. Against LHBs: .218 BAA, .571 OPSA in 78 ABs; 3-yr splits: .268 BAA, .759 OPSA – 257 ABs
Those are really the only two that stand out. Herges’ success against lefties looks to be a little better than historical, so there may be some regression, but Rivera’s numbers have been reasonably consistent. I agree with everyone who says Tony would never go for it. I was just curious what I’d find.
The other thing I thought of was what about going after a mediocre LH starter with great splits against lefties and see if they can be successful out of the pen. Oliver Perez? Mark Hendrickson? Just thinking out loud.
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Jul 3, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
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Damaso Marte
I have read that he is available from the Pirates. I don’t know what it would take to get him, but I would like to see him here.
by gonzostl on
Jul 3, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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From what I’ve read this week, he’s now off the table.
by redrey on
Jul 3, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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Celebration
That game was incredible! There should be fireworks going off on this site! Jumped all over Pedro, back and forth battle, come from behind victory, walkoff HR, and a little vengeance against Endy Chavez for his ‘06 theft. That one made me smile; this team has got some serious guts.
by Huck Finn on Jul 3, 2008 10:05 AM EDT 0 recs

