Game 109 Overflow 2/Postgame
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 29, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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PrintCards take this one 8-3. A decent pitching performance by Wellemeyer after the early stuggles. The bullpen did unusually well, with Franklin shutting them down in the eighth when it really mattered. The offense has finally broken out of their recent stuggles with 20 runs in 2 games. The Cards are now 3.5 games out of first and 1.5 game out of the wild card pending the outcome of the Cubs vs. Brewers game.
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i think so
he looks that way.
walks in a run. all right!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
freebies!!
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I wouldnt exactly call this an offensive uprising
We have had three walks and poor defense help us out this inning
walks come
from not swinging at balls and fouling off pitches. Like in Ludwicks AB. There were a few good hits too. (izturis and yadi.)
now Braves fans know
what we’ve felt like when a BP melts down late
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i like Gonz
would have liked to see him in a cards jersey but he is recovering from TJ
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
He'd fit right in!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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I'd rather Izzy pitch tonight
Just for the “9th inning stigma” even if we’re up by like 15 when it’s all said and done
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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i like insurace
too bad for izzy i guess.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 29, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
So the Braves play the Brewers next?
That’s too bad.
by peach concrete on Jul 29, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
emergency backup for Carp tomorrow
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thats usually Puppy Kicker
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
yeah what the hell
why isn’t it puppy kicker? jiminez is max 3 innings.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm completely down
with having Thompson fresh for tomorrow.
If Carp leaves with a lead in the fifth or sixth, Thompson’s the guy I want in the game nibblin’ innings.
Franklin probably won't be available
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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I knew I wanted Franklin to go 2 tonight
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jul 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
what?
it isn’t a good idea to use your best RP with a 6 run lead?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jul 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
All I can say is the ATL better unload these bases in the next two PA's,
because Aaron Miles is in the hole.
Sending a message
They don’t like those socks
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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TLR will remember
look for some chin music later in the series
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Nah
TLR hates BR, remember? He probably ordered the chin music
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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A little bit of both ;)
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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and had reyes
thorugh bad in clevland today or for there AAA i mean
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Jul 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i like mac here
it’s the 9th, albeit with a big lead, it is the ninth and he’s got to be next in line if iz does ‘t do the job
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
sorry, but that makes no sense. There's nothing magic about the number nine in the inning.
What makes the closer role exist is the psychological requirement of being able to come in in a high-stress situation with little margin for error and perform.
Pitching the ninth inning up by six runs does not qualify or prepare you to close more than pitching the sixth.
me too.
except he pitched yesterday. i would probaly use springer. or hell throw FRANK out there again.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 29, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't BB the first guy KMac
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the first of these 4 game series
I’ve actually liked
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
You didn't like the San Diego sweep?
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I'm talking about the recent stretch of 4 games series'
look it up on the schedule; we have a rare string of a lot of 4 game series
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
shit
when did it start? it was before the AS Break wasn’t it?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
forget it
I’m retarded
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Cards and Braves switched uniforms between half-innings
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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infielders getting fancy
leads to throwing errors
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
that made me think of that one Miles amazing stop
which he threw no where near APu
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
ok iztoo
they pay you not to do that!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
they also pay him to hit
but,,,,
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
yeah
it’s not like he makes a shit load of money… wait, he kinda does.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but he still makes a shitload of money to me
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont know about you
but i’ll take $2.85 MILLION dollars any day of the week
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Perspective.
If you pay a MLB player $2.85M in this day and age, then he is
A) A young player that is still establishing himself
B) A one-dimensional veteran player.
Izturis clearly fits in the B) category. They are paying him to play defense. For the most part, he has been pretty good at that, though I would expect fewer errors than the 9 he is currently sporting.
I think that's understood
he should be on Wizard level of defense though, especially now when hitting is so competitive
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I don’t think that he has been stellar enough to hold the job down for next year. He has been a decent stop gap, but I hope we can find a considerable upgrade for next year.
that would be awesome
although I guess one could argue that he provides just enough offense (looking at this season) to make him legit
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
For a while, I would have agreed.
Looking at it now, though, I don’t think he is providing much. He was hitting under .230 coming into tonight, and his OPS was barely above .500. That is pretty ugly with the bat. I’m not an hater, but I’m still trying to be realistic as to what he is providing.
good point
I didn’t realize that he was so low… but maybe now that he’s not switch hitting, he’ll do better for the rest of the season
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love to be
a one dimensional MLB player, making nearly 3 mil a yr
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
I'd take the rookie minimum, myself.
It is a business that brings in a great deal of money. Neither you nor I could earn the league minimum, though. That’s why Izturis gets paid $2.85M, and you and I do not. I enjoy watching the games, and hell I even like trying to play arm-chair GM. Neither makes me worthy of that salary.
genius coach ryan
told him to
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
DP Plz
let get outta here, KMac
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Good win fellas
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AND THAT'S A WINNER!!!!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
+1. These wins are nice but unsatisfying.
The Braves put the bulk of their offense on the DL or sent it to Anaheim. They’ve run up the white flag on 2008. Still, the games count. 35 more wins to 95.
yeah
too much of a pattern this year…. we look amazing against bad/faltering teams, but then we shut down a lot of the time in big series
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
actually
we have looked pretty good against the Red Sox; The Tigers; The Cubs; The Philes; And until last week the Brewers and Mets were on that list too.
However; the Pirates and the Nationals gave us some issues.
and the Giants
hopefully the Brewers were just on a roll when we played them. the cubs have definitely thrown water on the fire though
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
we only lost one game to the Nats this year
I know. I was there.
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you were at that monstrous extra inning affair?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It was epic and almost satisfying
until Franklin blew it in the 10th.
The Worrell HR was priceless
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that would have been awesome
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't call it unsatisfying, though.
You can’t pick your opponents, and sometimes pounding a bad team can get a team restarted. That, and wins are wins.
no
they are teh suck right now!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
nice win guys!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
man the brewers are doing like the cards
have done..not help themselves..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
+1
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think ...
Welley went through a dead-arm stretch? This has been a lot of innings for him. Maybe he just went through a bit of a lull.
I didn't think he looked good at all tonight
he just faced a terrilble terrible lineup
boo cubs, hooray beer
coming from u
grain of salt
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Jul 29, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn't have a good game
But he show some improvements.
2 swinging strike outs from his slider.
2 swinging strike out from his fastball
1 swinging strike out from his change up.
All the strike outs came after his runs too. Rough start. But the swinning strike outs on his offspeed stuff is something he hasn’t had in his last few games. I know the Braves are not an offensive power house. But it’s something to build on.
He looks tired.
He isn’t really finishing his pitches. He did kinda pitch out of his head at the beginning of the year, so he may be coming back to earth a little, as well.
Really great scenario for him though
Braves not so good right now
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Jurjenns is tough, though
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I'm looking forward to it
I’ve wanted to see Jurrgens pitch for a while too. Not expecting a whole lot out of Carp, but it’ll be great just to see him working again.
George Sherrill gave up 3 runs tonight
hopefully his stock has dropped enough so that we can get him
boo cubs, hooray beer
i kinda wanted to see how Izzy looks tonight
even with a 5 run lead. hopefully not pitching after a full warmup doesn’t do damage in the long term
his stock will be highest this season
for a guy whose been a specialist, then making the ASG, and being a closer..on XM radio they were saying it’d be smart to deal him while it’s high, and he’s under contract..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Jul 29, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Everett DFA'd
even hurt, he’s better than Kennedy…yet Kennedy lives to laugh another day.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 29, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
u saying they should take a flyer?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Jul 29, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he's hurt
I thought they should have signed Everett instead of Izturis (as Everett is the better defender) but apparently Carlos Lee trying to eat Adam has derailed his career.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 29, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Everett is greater than, or equal to, Izturis
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Everett is definitely a better fielder
than Izturis. Maybe about the same with a bat.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 29, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe has more upside offensively?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle Lohse
has more upside offensively.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 29, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
ouch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The last time Everett posted greater than a .600 OPS was 2004.
That was only a .702 clip. That was also the last time he hit greater than .250. Izturis has virtually the same offensive numbers, outside of the RBI category. Even then, it has been a long time since Everett really provided any RBIs, either.
Everett is probably the best defensive SS in baseball when healthy
Sadly, he is not healthy. So…whatever. If he were, I’d say we should pick him up—but then again, if he were he probably wouldn’t have been DFA’d.
IMO, this is not enough of an upgrade to justify spending the money.
I know that you’ll get him for the league minimum, but you are simply adding marginally better defense. There is no offensive upside to adding Everett, and as such there is no reason to pick up another .600 OPS MIF.
yep
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
not really
both are extremely solid with the glove, and neither can hit worth a damn.
I suppose Everett is a bit of a better defender, but it’s a marginal difference.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Late of the Minnesota Twins Adam Everett?
Isn’t that guy raking at something like a sub .200 clip?
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"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
I assume he is going to the Dodgers
They are just looking for a warm body over there
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 29, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
How lucky are we
that we have got to face the worst Braves line-up since they had the likes of Oddibe McDowell, Gerald Perry & Jeff Treadway. I am excited to see Carp tomorrow night….at least he won’t be facing a real tough line-up….although I think we will need to score 6-7 runs to give him a little cushion…I doubt he will be lights out this soon…
If we get 4 innings and 3 runs or fewer, I'll be happy.
I would expect more like 3 innings for his first start back.
we're lucky to still be in the race
after all the injuries we’ve had
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 29, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You can'r forget the worst SS of all time...
Rufino Linares!!!
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"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
Question
Me and my sis are looking to go to a game here in the next week and were looking for tixs, but neither of us has used Stub hub before. Anyone have any experience with it? Is it pretty safe and reliable? Do you get your tickets mailed to you or do you pick them up from the box office? any help would be appreciated
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I've used it
a few times. i’ve found it to be completely reliable – way more so than eBay. they’ll mail/fedex the tix to you.
You can also get then the day of
If you order your tickets within 48Hrs of the event they wont ship them to you but will hold them at a “pick up” location, for the IL side of the river that is the Ramada Inn next to Lotawata Creek near the Mall, not sure where the MO side is.
Another method
I haven’t used Stubhub, so can’t speak to it. But depending on where you [live or are staying in StL], and depending on whether you have the time, you can get a ticket if you can get to the park around 8:30 or 9:00 in the am the day of the game. Wait in line a while and they’ll sell you a couple tickets for ridiculously cheap, $11 for the pair, and they could be box seats or they could be standing room. You take your chances there. I think it’s called the First Pitch program.
I stayed downtown in late September a couple years ago, when I was visiting my daughter at parents’ weekend at SLU, and I walked over to the park and got us a pair of tickets (face value $45 apiece) for a Saturday afternoon game. Turned out to be Wainer’s second save of that season, the game where Spiezio hit the 8th-inning bases-clearing triple with 2 outs. I just thought the whole deal was pretty cool, since tickets were hard to come by at late notice.
by Youneverknow on Jul 30, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll have to try that
Metrolink up in the morning, get some cheap tickets, Metrolink back, Metrolink up at night, watch game, Metrolink back…
I was at that game too
I’ve used stubhub in the past and was happy with it.
I’ve heard good things about RazorGator.com, but used them myself.
USed stubhub for the Cards plaoff game
in ‘06, and had no issues with it. The pick up location was the Millenium hotel lobby.
I’d use them again.
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"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
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