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Game 106 Open Thread- 26th July, 2008

PiƱeiro

Knight

3-4, 4.52

0-0, 0.00

 

Thirty two years old

His first start for the big club

Let's ruin it, boys

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I agree

Lets ruin this Pondscum’s MLB debut!

GO CARDS!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the haiku!

let’s go cards! let’s bring home a winner!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How 'bout you boys win one?

You do remember winning, right? It’s pretty fun.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs


Joel Pineiro
3-4, 4.52

Last appearance:
7/21 vs MIL
6.0 IP, 3 ER
Dec = ND


Brandon Knight
No recent MLB info available

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carp

Could be the lift the team needs. I hope we aint rushing him back too early though.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exactly

I’m both elated and nervous. It’s good that he’s healthy enough for them to even consider it, but it’s terrible that we need him at all….

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If he's on a pitch count, and they're careful with him, I don't see what hte harm could be

What is he going to do? Give up more runs than Boggs would?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 26, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is a difference I think

between a rehab start and a ML start. Even on a pitch count. When he gets his competitive juices flowing he might not be as cautious as he would be in Memphis.

I agree with the elated + nervous consensus!!

"A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while."- Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh

by CurtainCall on Jul 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's no coincidence that Carps start is the day before the deadline

but even if Carp goes out and pitches well, we still have a terrible bullpen and an incredibly inconsistent offense.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 26, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For Carpenter

lets win this one for Carpenter! Ha ha I mean I think it would make him happy

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 26, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

skippy

let’s build off that.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

skip

hacked that one up the middle…that looked really high

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to lead it off Skippy!

Nice hit!

Lets get more of those!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

score two in the first

bats go silent.

let’s have a patient approach tonight guys and try not to hack. I’d like to see a W.

by azruavatar on Jul 26, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here's hoping Albert's bat wakes up right

NOW

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no doubt SNY just replayed his 3 K's last night - yuck

its getting close to a calendar month with no jacks for baseball jesus

by rlgosnell on Jul 26, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great, 4 hours of ron darling

i would pay double the cost of Extra Innings to get all FSN Midwest telecasts

by rlgosnell on Jul 26, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i never thought i'd say this

but DTV EI is a beautiful thing

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i always say this

living in st louis is a beautiful thing.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wouldnt you be?

I sure would

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C'mon Albert

Welcome him to the big leagues!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now that I get the Cards

I don’t watch many Mets games on SNY, but their announcing crew is the best – Cohen, Hernandez and Darling. Keith is the best of the three – very frank, honest and he’s not a homer.

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hardcore?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

c'mon

hang ‘im a slider….

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, now wish for him to hit it fair please

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn

FSNMW must have the crowd mics pumped up. sounds like WGN.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade Albert!

He’s nothing but a singles hitter these days!!!

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Jul 26, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

Chavez better go back to left field. Thanks, Andy!

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh, that was interesting

Endy had no clue out there

Skippy should have scored easily. WTF dude?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It looked like a sure out

so he went back to second to be able to tag up.

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that ball fooled everyone

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK every one is playing station to station

i dont mind that one bit

keep it going Troy

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

atta kid ank

starting to look alittle better at the plate, to me anyway….right up the middle

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOBBS!

Nicely Done!

Alright Santa, bring us 4 presents!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Take two

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about an 11-run lead

so we can have at least a 50 percent chance of our bullpen (sorry for using that word) blowing the game?

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2-0 good guys

dont stop now

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

let's go Yadi!

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

geez, where was that pitch

that Yadi hit

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops

meant Ludwick. Pujols scores on the Yadi SF.

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alright!

way to stay patient, Santa!

Youve been here before Yadi, channel 06 NLCS

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh man

he’d have been dead out right there.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right move

need to force the cutoff so the run scores.

Worked out pretty good.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice hands Carlos

3-0 good guys

dont stop now O

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

an out?

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by tomsteele on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

coach told Ank

to stay, and he went anyway. Dumb…...but got away with it.

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Delgado

Player of the game!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

324 for grit

that is crazy

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

add some more to that!

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's go Grit

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Super Mario

lets see some mushroom magic!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There ya go!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Explain why you'd pitch to Miles with the on-deck duo of Joel and Izzy2

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's a very enthusiastic Cardinal fan

right next to FSMW’s field mike. I share his joy.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4-0 good guys

behold the power of the gritty Mini Me

dont stop now O

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brandon Knight = MIke Parisi

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or

Mitchell Boggs

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

joel

DFA that piece of junk.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man Troy is as slow as Yadda

and that’s saying something

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on

no hyperbole

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what?

it’s true.

that wasn’t the best bunt, but Troy is still slow

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

molina

is the lowest speed possible without going backwords

troy aint quite there

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ugh

It seems like the Cards botch more sac bunts than any team in the league.

by jdub176 on Jul 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2-31

Pineiro is 2-31 at the plate with 22 of them being strikeouts, and not a single sacrifice. I dont think he thinks he can do it.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

it’s not nearly as easy as it looks.

by jdub176 on Jul 26, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whoops

that didn’t work right, but at least there was no DP.

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

I hate to just give away second outs of the inning

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

draw a walk, Iz2

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone bats

Let’s do that again next inning, fellas.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well that was encouraging

when was the last time we batted around?

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Out for the evening

have to take the galfriend to dinner. Heres to a Win!

GO CARDS!

yall have a great night.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pull her chair out

the one on the side of the table not facing the TV.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, guys check out

the incredible uniforms the White Sox and Tigers are wearing tonight!

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

SNY just showed Knight walking into the dugout after the inning and he fell on his ass

by rlgosnell on Jul 26, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s rough.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good first inning boys

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 26, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More baseball haiku

Mets announcers bad
Just like to hear themselves talk
Hit the mute button.

by StanTheManFan on Jul 26, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously

I know everyone praised Ank’s defense but it just seems like he takes a LOT of terrible jumps out there

by rlgosnell on Jul 26, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joel Pineiro

Hater of leads

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 26, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

giving all back to the Mets

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too bad

he didn’t stick with that plan

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 26, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought we were kind of foolish

to have the pitcher bunt in the first.

But to have Chavez bunt, egads.

Ugh. That wall must have something wrong with it.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joel duplicating Knight tapes.

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 26, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the final of this game

is going to end up being 20-18 at this rate.

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just as long as we have the 20

I’m okay w/that

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

speaking of houston

has anyone else heard the story about Oswalt and the tractor and how he thinks it fixed his rotator cuff problem early on in his career?

by rlgosnell on Jul 26, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do tell

the only story I know is that his recent contract extension included a tractor.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well he's a country boy and

he was working on a tractor or old car of his and he was messing with the wiring and he grabbed the ground wire or something and electrocuted himself pretty severely. anyways, at the time he had some lingering scar tissue and was having trouble with it in his pitching shoulder. after the incident he said he was fine and we’ve all seen the results -game 6 2007. just wondering if i were mulder if i would consider something like that at this point.

by rlgosnell on Jul 26, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couldn’t’ve smelled good.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that the story

where he sat on a tractor and got gonorrhea?

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Jul 26, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I sincerely hope

this isn’t another game we start off great and then fall asleep on offense.

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what is it they say?

stupidity is doing the same thing and expecting different results?

by rlgosnell on Jul 26, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No lead is safe with Joel Pineiro on the mound

Our offense better not go to sleep

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 26, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yet on a day A rey got dealt

Pinero on the mound is fitting..he has been this years poor luck guy more than once yet doesnt have the appologists reyes has. He has a ton of ND…poor run support most of the time…He has pitched better than his record..maybe if his name was different he’d get more love.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 7:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I compared Piniero favorably to Jeff Suppan when we extended him, but he’s never pitched a 1-hitter like Reyes has and doesn’t have the strikeout ability. If Reyes had turned out to be what was expected of him, he would have been a far, far better pitcher than the sole survivor of planet Krypton.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

true

but i was refering to his lack of run support..and true reyes has talent..which we saw one in every 20 starts? noone has pointed out that joel gets lil runs cept for tonight..he is too pricey thats true.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Won’t hear me complaining about his W-L record. His strikeout rate this year is dangerously low is the problem. Can’t expect all the contact he’s allowing to find gloves. All those hits are what gets his pitch count up and keeps him from going deep into games.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

just saying a rey had the same issues with going deep..and run support.. talent they are not comparable..cause we saw what a rey could do..maybe a change will do him well.. stop thinking and just throw..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Won’t hear me complaining about his W-L record. His strikeout rate this year is dangerously low is the problem. Can’t expect all the contact he’s allowing to find gloves.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or maybe if he wasn't a crappy pitcher

at least Reyes was cheap. Pineiro and his 47 Ks in 93 innings don’t get a lot of sympathy. He’s not been particularly unlucky (BABIP might be a touch high but his HR/FB rate is low).

by azruavatar on Jul 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

to me the big knock on JP has been his inability to go deep into games and eat up innings. He’s been a decent pitcher, just inefficient…..

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

cant go deep in games..innifeicient..like reyes…

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just like Reyes

except for those freak games when Reyes would show up with his A-game and be completely unhittable.

I’m so glad the guy’s getting a chance someplace else and the reports on Pedromo sound encouraging….maybe one of those rare trades that make both teams better.

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the freak games yes

but they were too few and far between.. i pulled fo rthe guy dont get me worng, but it’s liek he could do no wrong..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well yeah

I was a Reyes defender up until this year, when it was finally 100% clear that he needed a change of scenery….but those freakazoid games were what kept everybody thinking he could somehow put it together.

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whew, that was close

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

27 pitches for JP in the first inning

man is that familiar.

Not nearly as bad as Knight’s 39 though…..jeez.

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we didnt abuse their bullpen last night, though

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by themanthemyth on Jul 26, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn’t we just use Flores and Wonderbrad?

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

last night

puppy kicker for two and flores for like 1 2/3

so tonight it’ll have to be springer, villone, etc.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd give up tacos for a month,

if we could go a week with our starters keeping their pitch count down. I was so jealous when Sabathia, the other night, was into like the eighth, and was under 90 pitches. Maybe Carpenter can start a trend…....but there I go getting my hopes up.

by fuegophil on Jul 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

he should of had that..that was ugly

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2-2

please keep it up albert

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know that was a basehit

but it still concern me. all that was was a seeing-eye groundball.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do peopel forget AP is hurt?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if AP is hurt

he should be on the freaking DL. I hate this silly macho shit that hurts the team (and the player) in the long run….

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

have you been absent?

he needs surgery.. he has basically a tear.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dont remeber

surgery being mentioned on it til this yr

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was moved to first to put off the need for surgery. He was playing left for a few weeks with instructions not to throw the ball in, just to get him in the lineup (had to give Tino a chance to get his act together, of course).

He was playing through some pretty bad pain late last year and said that he wouldn’t do it again, that’s why the chatter.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

u just proved my whole point

i think it is worse now than it has been..just think people over look it thats all..hes lost power etc etc.. hes playing and still produces.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I proved nothing

Albert’s the only one who can provide the necessary data to resolve this wee argument. If he goes on a tear, you have to draw me a picture of a stack of internet dollars in microsoft paint.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha

im just saying it could be a possibility that it is bothering him. The tide sways so easliy on the big guy..im done

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm perfectly aware of that

but if he’s hurt some other way, or if the elbow has deteriorated, shut him down until he’s ready again. If that means the rest of 08 and into 09, better than him ruining his elbow permanently.

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i personally dont know why

he didnt do it after last yr, but it seemed liek they didnt realize how bad it was til right around ST.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no doubt

he looks like he’s stepping in the bucket and rolling over on everything

by rlgosnell on Jul 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its amazin he

has played as well as he has..to have the vibrations of the bat down into his elbow..ouch..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last night

we must’ve had the bizarro Pujols, because this one doesn’t make outs.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shouldn't be first ball swinging

on a guy that can’t throw strikes

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is it just me

or is santa kinda due to crush one?

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hes not your heinous,

hes not my heinous, hes our heinous

by rlgosnell on Jul 26, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mini Me strikes again!

nice play little fella

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't ask for much more

From a guy who’s on the club to be a back-up/utility player.

by fuegophil on Jul 26, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually

pretty good. certainly the price is right

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by sportsman on Jul 26, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Better

I still don’t like that he threw 2 changeups in the same place in a row to Reyes. Just because you fooled the guy once doesn’t mean you can do it again if you do it back to back

by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's following a gibsonism

“if he didn’t hit the first two, no reason to think he’ll hit the third one”, of course gibby was talking about his own fastball

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 26, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know the #'s,

But he always seems above average to me. Decent arm too.

by fuegophil on Jul 26, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just from watching this game I think they decided to say that

do your research Met’s announcers

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 26, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

he kind of made a diving catch in the 15th inning of the all-star game

by 916baller on Jul 26, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How many Cards games do the Met broadcasters see? Nothing like a sweeping statement based on one play

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 26, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the only gripe you can say about LUD is

he doesn’t go to his left very well when he plays right field.

other wise, he’s as close to a gold glove as you are going to get

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

question for the knowledgeable

now that the dodgers have blake, what’s the bidding going to be like for their apparent excess of young infielders?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 26, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It wouldn't be THAT bad

but I think the bullpen would be helped more by having Wagonmaker in the rotation than having him in the ‘pen.

Paradoxically, yo.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not sure about that

when you start you never know if he’ll get run support or not. out of the pen, you have better control of putting him situations where he can make a difference for winning vs. losing. plus, it’s not like we have tremendous quality in the pen. may be overworked, but that doesn’‘t mean less work will you a better pitcher. toss-up to me

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 26, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah but

if he’s able to pitch 7-8 innings every night, he’s reducing the exposure to the bullpen, and limiting the number of pitches the rag-arms need to throw.

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

save the bullets for something far more important

its not going to happen

he’s a starter. period. end of discussion . no matter what Hungo says

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really hope these organization feels the same way

i’d HATE to see Wainwright in the bullpen, would be a stupid move.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 26, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mo's comments

Not sure why he was leaving the door open for Wain going to the bullpen.

Only thing I can guess is that he’s trying to motivate the starters—you guys all pitch well and maybe none of you get bumped to the ‘pen.

The bullpen knows someone’s coming from the rotation to help shoulder the load.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our offense is shutting down again

we got our 4 runs for the game.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 26, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would not say that yet

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 26, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

especially since he’ll be lucky to finish the 5th….

by nota bene on Jul 26, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are the Mets' announcers

ragging on the whole batting the pitcher 8th theory right now?

If so, I hope Albert hits a GS next inning.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they did mention how

Pineiro has struck out in nearly every AB this season and how he’s 2 for 30 (now 2 for 32) on the season.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Jul 26, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Houston tied it up

Carlos lee two run bomb

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 26, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeehaw.

A houston win, a Cardinal win, and we’re right back in it.

by fuegophil on Jul 26, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for craps sake

that was a ball Hungo. it wasn’t that bad of a pitch. Delgado is just on fire

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't worry - with our pen . ..

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 26, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

Miles made that close. If Beltran were a little bit slower…

Nice hands, Milesy.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn Mini Me

hell of an effort

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

poor joel

he was a good pitcher at one time. remember seeing him in seattle and wishing the cards had him. now not so sure.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 26, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where would Joel be

if we had Carpenter, Mulder and Wainwright all starting?

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

out of baseball?

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in boston's AAA fold

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 26, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All right Jo-el

the lead’s gone, now you can start pitching half-decent-like.

by liam on Jul 26, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tied

This team just can’t win anymore. Very depressing.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was a fun lead

it had been a few games

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, at least we had fun

for the first 15 minutes of the game.

by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are there any hotter teams

than the 2 New York teams right now?? Both are tearing it up right now.

by KYCards on Jul 26, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no doubt

when Fernando Tatis is your LF, and you’re still winning. the GOB’s love you right now

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok offense

go get four more runs

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 26, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too late

The first three innings have come and gone

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Jul 26, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can't believe I arose at 6:00 a,m. for this crap . . ..Looking forward to the ZOGs

Jiminez, Izzy, and the rest. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 26, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

'tis possible I undid the haiku juju

We were up by four,
When I turned the ballgame on.
No more. Goodbye all.

by peach concrete on Jul 26, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another extension that had no business being given

Ryan Franklin and Joel Pineiro

Atleast Miles is earning his.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 26, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

those on mo?

can’t remember

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 26, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how was that a strike?

it was neck high & six inches out side for craps sake!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hahah

skip is abusing their second base joker

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ohhh LUD you should have drilled that hanger

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Wolf surge continues

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by gocards62 on Jul 26, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the right field bleachers are calling your name Albert

why dont you reach out & touch some?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 26, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so, apparently,

was the dirt. hard to believe he is ok ohysically

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 26, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up