Game 106 Open Thread- 26th July, 2008
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Thirty two years old
His first start for the big club
Let's ruin it, boys
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I agree
Lets ruin this Pondscum’s MLB debut!
GO CARDS!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
the haiku!
let’s go cards! let’s bring home a winner!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions
How 'bout you boys win one?
You do remember winning, right? It’s pretty fun.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions
Carp
Could be the lift the team needs. I hope we aint rushing him back too early though.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If he's on a pitch count, and they're careful with him, I don't see what hte harm could be
What is he going to do? Give up more runs than Boggs would?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
There is a difference I think
between a rehab start and a ML start. Even on a pitch count. When he gets his competitive juices flowing he might not be as cautious as he would be in Memphis.
I agree with the elated + nervous consensus!!
"A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while."- Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
It's no coincidence that Carps start is the day before the deadline
but even if Carp goes out and pitches well, we still have a terrible bullpen and an incredibly inconsistent offense.
boo cubs, hooray beer
For Carpenter
lets win this one for Carpenter! Ha ha I mean I think it would make him happy
They say I look like yadier molina
skip
hacked that one up the middle…that looked really high
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Way to lead it off Skippy!
Nice hit!
Lets get more of those!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Jump all over this kid while he's nervous
Do it now before he settles down.
score two in the first
bats go silent.
let’s have a patient approach tonight guys and try not to hack. I’d like to see a W.
here's hoping Albert's bat wakes up right
NOW
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
no doubt SNY just replayed his 3 K's last night - yuck
its getting close to a calendar month with no jacks for baseball jesus
great, 4 hours of ron darling
i would pay double the cost of Extra Innings to get all FSN Midwest telecasts
i never thought i'd say this
but DTV EI is a beautiful thing
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
i always say this
living in st louis is a beautiful thing.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
wouldnt you be?
I sure would
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
just wow.
thanks for distracting me from the game. : P
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that I get the Cards
I don’t watch many Mets games on SNY, but their announcing crew is the best – Cohen, Hernandez and Darling. Keith is the best of the three – very frank, honest and he’s not a homer.
OK, now wish for him to hit it fair please
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
damn
FSNMW must have the crowd mics pumped up. sounds like WGN.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions
Trade Albert!
He’s nothing but a singles hitter these days!!!
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
Wow
Chavez better go back to left field. Thanks, Andy!
uh, that was interesting
Endy had no clue out there
Skippy should have scored easily. WTF dude?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
it was playable
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It looked like a sure out
so he went back to second to be able to tag up.
OK every one is playing station to station
i dont mind that one bit
keep it going Troy
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
atta kid ank
starting to look alittle better at the plate, to me anyway….right up the middle
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HOBBS!
Nicely Done!
Alright Santa, bring us 4 presents!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
dude has no control
the cards may score 20 tonight.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions
We'll score seven in three innings.
And no more.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 26, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
How about an 11-run lead
so we can have at least a 50 percent chance of our bullpen (sorry for using that word) blowing the game?
2-0 good guys
dont stop now
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
No
but I’m going to blend up a pitcher of margaritas after the Mets record three outs. Might be a while.
not unless he wants to go to jail kid
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
you always need to point that out?
you must be bitter or something.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i am a very bitter old old man
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
geez, where was that pitch
that Yadi hit
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Alright!
way to stay patient, Santa!
Youve been here before Yadi, channel 06 NLCS
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
oh man
he’d have been dead out right there.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
nice hands Carlos
3-0 good guys
dont stop now O
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
coach told Ank
to stay, and he went anyway. Dumb…...but got away with it.
add some more to that!
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
There ya go!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Explain why you'd pitch to Miles with the on-deck duo of Joel and Izzy2
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4-0 good guys
behold the power of the gritty Mini Me
dont stop now O
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Brandon Knight = MIke Parisi
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or
Mitchell Boggs
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
man Troy is as slow as Yadda
and that’s saying something
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
come on
no hyperbole
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
what?
it’s true.
that wasn’t the best bunt, but Troy is still slow
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
molina
is the lowest speed possible without going backwords
troy aint quite there
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 26, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
2-31
Pineiro is 2-31 at the plate with 22 of them being strikeouts, and not a single sacrifice. I dont think he thinks he can do it.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I hate to just give away second outs of the inning
Out for the evening
have to take the galfriend to dinner. Heres to a Win!
GO CARDS!
yall have a great night.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
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the incredible uniforms the White Sox and Tigers are wearing tonight!
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Mets announcers bad
Just like to hear themselves talk
Hit the mute button.
seriously
I know everyone praised Ank’s defense but it just seems like he takes a LOT of terrible jumps out there
giving all back to the Mets
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I thought we were kind of foolish
to have the pitcher bunt in the first.
But to have Chavez bunt, egads.
Ugh. That wall must have something wrong with it.
Joel duplicating Knight tapes.
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just as long as we have the 20
I’m okay w/that
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speaking of houston
has anyone else heard the story about Oswalt and the tractor and how he thinks it fixed his rotator cuff problem early on in his career?
well he's a country boy and
he was working on a tractor or old car of his and he was messing with the wiring and he grabbed the ground wire or something and electrocuted himself pretty severely. anyways, at the time he had some lingering scar tissue and was having trouble with it in his pitching shoulder. after the incident he said he was fine and we’ve all seen the results -game 6 2007. just wondering if i were mulder if i would consider something like that at this point.
Is that the story
where he sat on a tractor and got gonorrhea?
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
I sincerely hope
this isn’t another game we start off great and then fall asleep on offense.
No lead is safe with Joel Pineiro on the mound
Our offense better not go to sleep
boo cubs, hooray beer
yet on a day A rey got dealt
Pinero on the mound is fitting..he has been this years poor luck guy more than once yet doesnt have the appologists reyes has. He has a ton of ND…poor run support most of the time…He has pitched better than his record..maybe if his name was different he’d get more love.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
I compared Piniero favorably to Jeff Suppan when we extended him, but he’s never pitched a 1-hitter like Reyes has and doesn’t have the strikeout ability. If Reyes had turned out to be what was expected of him, he would have been a far, far better pitcher than the sole survivor of planet Krypton.
true
but i was refering to his lack of run support..and true reyes has talent..which we saw one in every 20 starts? noone has pointed out that joel gets lil runs cept for tonight..he is too pricey thats true.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Won’t hear me complaining about his W-L record. His strikeout rate this year is dangerously low is the problem. Can’t expect all the contact he’s allowing to find gloves. All those hits are what gets his pitch count up and keeps him from going deep into games.
agreed
just saying a rey had the same issues with going deep..and run support.. talent they are not comparable..cause we saw what a rey could do..maybe a change will do him well.. stop thinking and just throw..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
or maybe if he wasn't a crappy pitcher
at least Reyes was cheap. Pineiro and his 47 Ks in 93 innings don’t get a lot of sympathy. He’s not been particularly unlucky (BABIP might be a touch high but his HR/FB rate is low).
agreed
to me the big knock on JP has been his inability to go deep into games and eat up innings. He’s been a decent pitcher, just inefficient…..
haha
cant go deep in games..innifeicient..like reyes…
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
just like Reyes
except for those freak games when Reyes would show up with his A-game and be completely unhittable.
I’m so glad the guy’s getting a chance someplace else and the reports on Pedromo sound encouraging….maybe one of those rare trades that make both teams better.
the freak games yes
but they were too few and far between.. i pulled fo rthe guy dont get me worng, but it’s liek he could do no wrong..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
At least you consistently get to see his goalie interpretation on the mound.
One of the more enjoyable elements of Joel.
gotta believe it
who’d take him?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
whew, that was close
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27 pitches for JP in the first inning
man is that familiar.
Not nearly as bad as Knight’s 39 though…..jeez.
we didnt abuse their bullpen last night, though
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by themanthemyth on Jul 26, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
last night
puppy kicker for two and flores for like 1 2/3
so tonight it’ll have to be springer, villone, etc.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd give up tacos for a month,
if we could go a week with our starters keeping their pitch count down. I was so jealous when Sabathia, the other night, was into like the eighth, and was under 90 pitches. Maybe Carpenter can start a trend…....but there I go getting my hopes up.
taco bell is the shit
i keep my local QT is business.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i know that was a basehit
but it still concern me. all that was was a seeing-eye groundball.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions
do peopel forget AP is hurt?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
if AP is hurt
he should be on the freaking DL. I hate this silly macho shit that hurts the team (and the player) in the long run….
have you been absent?
he needs surgery.. he has basically a tear.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
dont remeber
surgery being mentioned on it til this yr
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
He was moved to first to put off the need for surgery. He was playing left for a few weeks with instructions not to throw the ball in, just to get him in the lineup (had to give Tino a chance to get his act together, of course).
He was playing through some pretty bad pain late last year and said that he wouldn’t do it again, that’s why the chatter.
u just proved my whole point
i think it is worse now than it has been..just think people over look it thats all..hes lost power etc etc.. hes playing and still produces.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
I proved nothing
Albert’s the only one who can provide the necessary data to resolve this wee argument. If he goes on a tear, you have to draw me a picture of a stack of internet dollars in microsoft paint.
ha
im just saying it could be a possibility that it is bothering him. The tide sways so easliy on the big guy..im done
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
I'm perfectly aware of that
but if he’s hurt some other way, or if the elbow has deteriorated, shut him down until he’s ready again. If that means the rest of 08 and into 09, better than him ruining his elbow permanently.
i personally dont know why
he didnt do it after last yr, but it seemed liek they didnt realize how bad it was til right around ST.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
that doesn't count
that was a flyball.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
its amazin he
has played as well as he has..to have the vibrations of the bat down into his elbow..ouch..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
is it just me
or is santa kinda due to crush one?
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
That doesn't bode well
I don’t think I like where this game is going
by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
I speak, of course, of the missed opportunity to score in the 2nd
With Pinero looking shaky and and bullpen questionable. A 2-run lead in the 2nd isn’t very comforting at this point.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Mini Me strikes again!
nice play little fella
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Better
I still don’t like that he threw 2 changeups in the same place in a row to Reyes. Just because you fooled the guy once doesn’t mean you can do it again if you do it back to back
by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
he's following a gibsonism
“if he didn’t hit the first two, no reason to think he’ll hit the third one”, of course gibby was talking about his own fastball
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
mets announcers are saying that Ludwick's defense is not very good
I disagree
They say I look like yadier molina
just from watching this game I think they decided to say that
do your research Met’s announcers
They say I look like yadier molina
How many Cards games do the Met broadcasters see? Nothing like a sweeping statement based on one play
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the only gripe you can say about LUD is
he doesn’t go to his left very well when he plays right field.
other wise, he’s as close to a gold glove as you are going to get
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
question for the knowledgeable
now that the dodgers have blake, what’s the bidding going to be like for their apparent excess of young infielders?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
if wainwright goes to the bullpen
i may have to shoot myself.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
It wouldn't be THAT bad
but I think the bullpen would be helped more by having Wagonmaker in the rotation than having him in the ‘pen.
Paradoxically, yo.
not sure about that
when you start you never know if he’ll get run support or not. out of the pen, you have better control of putting him situations where he can make a difference for winning vs. losing. plus, it’s not like we have tremendous quality in the pen. may be overworked, but that doesn’‘t mean less work will you a better pitcher. toss-up to me
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
save the bullets for something far more important
its not going to happen
he’s a starter. period. end of discussion . no matter what Hungo says
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I really hope these organization feels the same way
i’d HATE to see Wainwright in the bullpen, would be a stupid move.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Mo's comments
Not sure why he was leaving the door open for Wain going to the bullpen.
Only thing I can guess is that he’s trying to motivate the starters—you guys all pitch well and maybe none of you get bumped to the ‘pen.
The bullpen knows someone’s coming from the rotation to help shoulder the load.
Looks like Knight has settled in
That sucks.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
Are the Mets' announcers
ragging on the whole batting the pitcher 8th theory right now?
If so, I hope Albert hits a GS next inning.
they did mention how
Pineiro has struck out in nearly every AB this season and how he’s 2 for 30 (now 2 for 32) on the season.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
I hope bert remembers how to hit the ball over the fence.....
Cause it seems like he’s forgotten atm.
for craps sake
that was a ball Hungo. it wasn’t that bad of a pitch. Delgado is just on fire
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Don't worry - with our pen . ..
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
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where have I seen this scipt before?
early lead, shut down, lose
Joel Pineiro has got to be the worst pitcher in the league when pitching with a lead
I wonder if there is a stat for this.
boo cubs, hooray beer
he is 1-2 when given a four-run
in the first in July in New York.
by ccthemovieman on Jul 26, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
damn Mini Me
hell of an effort
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
damn the mets are getting their hacks
come on pineiro. settle down.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
poor joel
he was a good pitcher at one time. remember seeing him in seattle and wishing the cards had him. now not so sure.
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Where would Joel be
if we had Carpenter, Mulder and Wainwright all starting?
in boston's AAA fold
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Tied
This team just can’t win anymore. Very depressing.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
Well, at least we had fun
for the first 15 minutes of the game.
no doubt
when Fernando Tatis is your LF, and you’re still winning. the GOB’s love you right now
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
can't believe I arose at 6:00 a,m. for this crap . . ..Looking forward to the ZOGs
Jiminez, Izzy, and the rest. . .
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'tis possible I undid the haiku juju
We were up by four,
When I turned the ballgame on.
No more. Goodbye all.
Another extension that had no business being given
Ryan Franklin and Joel Pineiro
Atleast Miles is earning his.
boo cubs, hooray beer
those on mo?
can’t remember
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
how was that a strike?
it was neck high & six inches out side for craps sake!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
ohhh LUD you should have drilled that hanger
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
the Wolf surge continues
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the right field bleachers are calling your name Albert
why dont you reach out & touch some?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
so, apparently,
was the dirt. hard to believe he is ok ohysically
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
not what i had in mind Pu
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Can't believe Knight has lasted 4 innings
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he owes joel
a beer
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I'm out
Think it’s going to get nasty around here again. Damn.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 26, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
better things to do on a saturday night
good luck, boys, bring home a winner.
Piniero is throwing batting practice to Reyes.
He is not fooling anybody, but Reyes looks like he knows what’s coming.
What a surprise - Cards blow a lead. . . what's next? BP problems? Runners left on?
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HL Mencken
Kennedy, too
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ak on deck
to the extent it makes a difference
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Incredible
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HL Mencken
Adam Kennedy is going to pinch hit for Pineiro
Hilarious TLR
giving up already?
boo cubs, hooray beer