Anthony Reyes Dealt
by the red baron on Jul 26, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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PrintHey everybody. Main post is still below, but I wanted to get this bit of news up.
It appears that Anthony Reyes has finally been dealt. I've been looking around, trying to figure out where to and for what, and luckily one of our great readers here sent along a link from the ESPN transactions page.
It appears the deal is for a minor league reliever name Luis Perdomo, along with cash considerations. Perdomo certainly has an intriguing arm, throwing mid 90s gas pretty consistently. He also throws a slider and changeup, though the few scouting reports I can find have those as being presently below average pitches. A little raw, obviously, but still intriguing.
I know everyone had their hopes up for the Matt Holliday deal that was proposed a while back here, but it doesn't look to be the case.
Is this a decent return for Anthony? In all honesty, yeah, probably. Guy just didn't have much value.
Good luck, Anthony. I'll always remember Game One. Hope you can get your stuff back together and become what we thought you were going to be. I, for one, think it could still happen for Reyes.
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Where is it reported we got cash?
And regardless there’s no way it could be very much money seeing as how neither player was making anything.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
That was kind of a joke.
But it was reported on the Cards’ website.
On with the (good) youth movement!
Mo didn't realize that the cleveland GM was actually a 50 foot tall lochness monster
boo cubs, hooray beer
good for Anthony
here’s hoping a fresh start is just what the Dr ordered for the kid. the Indians are a good franchise & i look forward to watching him.
now about that other trade with the Rockies. this is the first i’m hearing of it so i assume it’s not true. right? i mean how could it be? MO would be crazy to give up that many kids for fuentes & holliday. flat out crazy.
say it ain’t so MO. say it ain’t so.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Goold has it, too.
He says cash is involved.
Good luck to Anthony Reyes. I hope the fresh start does him some good. Fresh thinking about how to get batters out, and all that.
Good Luck A-Rey
I hope he goes on to have a great career, even if it means we regret letting him go.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Oh, and WTF
Why didn’t we include the rights to Brian Barton in this deal? Mo couldn’t get them to throw that in???
boo cubs, hooray beer
no kidding
they must want ‘em back if the cards screw it up somehow.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
because it doesn't work that way
for reasons that have been stated on this site something like 30 times since the barton acquisition. Every other team would have to let him pass through waivers before we could negotiate his rights with cleveland.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
What Rockies trade
Where did you hear the rockies trade
by bmoorelikealbert on Jul 26, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, and another positive about this trade
no longer will we have to listen to the trade proposals of Reyes + Duncan for (insert other teams star player here)
boo cubs, hooray beer
I was at the Reyes 1-hitter against the White Sox game
I had such high hopes for the kid after that. Must’ve been similar to the crowd watching Bud Smith during his big day.
On with the (good) youth movement!
I wasn't
instead I got to go to the one Mulder started (I think?) where he got his ass kicked and then Ponson started plunking guys.
Funniest part was a long drive to right field by some Sox player (A.J. I think). At the time, our right fielder was Timo Perez. He sprinted back to the section of the wall that is chain link fence. He jumps into the fence while a fan is just standing there on the other side. The fence gives alot and Perez makes contact with the dude square in the chest sending him backwards about 10 feet landing on his ass. The stadium erupted on the replay.
You can tell this post was made in a hurry
No song title connection? I am only a little disappointed TRB
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
yeah, sorry
I was trying to get it up in a hurry.
(someone give me a that’s what she said, please.)
Why don't you just make like a tree, and get out of here?
by the red baron on Jul 26, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Cash considerations
DeWitt’s gotta pay for Ballpark Village somehow.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 26, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
pardon my ignorance
im not sure i understand the cash considerations. neither one of them are making any money are they?
by 85CardsforLife on Jul 26, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
oh ok i see. im just surprised its in the deal considering neither one of them make anything at all
by 85CardsforLife on Jul 26, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
well i know that.
Its just that I can believe half of a season of a minor leaguers salary would come up in trade negoitations. I was just surprised thats all.
by 85CardsforLife on Jul 26, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
well is cash only allowed for salary?
A player was traded for bats recently, maybe they paid us 1M for ARey maybe it was just the remainder of the other guys salary, we don’t know yet the full conditions but I would expect it to be more than just a little bit.
While I'm glad Reyes will finally get a chance to pitch
I believe this move officially dubs Mo the ‘King of Acquiring Slightly Too Old Prospects’.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 26, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
The kid sounds like a dominican Chris Perez
so I think it’s a pretty decent return for a guy who had absolutely no future with this club.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Go A. Reyes
Prove that LaDunc are fools for not letting you pitch for a while (like they did for Mr. Wainright).
here's the mlbtraderumors.com link
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/cardinals-send.html
Prospects are good. Especially when they aren't rushed.
We hardly knew ye...
Good luck Anthony! You were a true professional who didn’t whine and complain when the Cardinals sent you down or promoted less talented pitchers and left you in Memphis Limbo. I hope you pitch well and contribute to a fine Cleveland organization! Thanks for some great memories against the Tigers and the White Sox!
Perdomo is a closer and was one of the top relief pitching prospects for the Indians. He has a plus 90 mph fastball and a nasty slider. His current ERA in AA is about 1.00. He’s listed at 6 ft and only 170 pounds, but he has a reputation of being fearless. He has good control and averages better than a strikeout an inning. This kid has promise and barring injury or a trade may challenge for a roster spot on the St Louis club next spring or be called up in late 2009.
My lord, Rich Harden has 30 k's in 3 starts for the Cubs
But gets no run support, he probably thinks he is back in Oakland
boo cubs, hooray beer
she's too classy to do that. A glass of wine should do it.
She’ll be on the Tribes board to make sure AR get’s a fair treatment from their fans.
AR, good luck and hopefully we’ll see you in the Show someday.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Jul 26, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Deep down I hate that it came to this.....
No, I’m not having a drink. I will check in on him to see how he’s doing, but I have no intention of posting anything on the Indians message board.
I never met him, I never even knew anyone that met him. LaRussa set me off big time last summer when he referred to him as “no one” in Memphis. Reyes never responded to that-and I was forever on his side. Because each and everyone of us is someone. Even if we don’t pitch well; even if Mr. LaRussa doesn’t like us, we are all still someone. A boss should not be allowed to call an employee “no one.” Mr. Reyes is someone too. And he did handle all of his difficulties here with class and professionalism. The organization should have realized that; I hope someone did. I just don’t imagine anyone in the Cleveland organization is going to ever call Mr. Reyes “no one.”
He may never figure it out- but I’m glad he’s getting a new chance.
I’m not all that classy…..but thanks.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
I am here......I'm ecstatic.....
he was not really considered part of the organization for quite some time now. They did the honorable thing by making it official…..
Good for him going to Cleveland. They got Carmona back on track after failing, they got Cliff Lee back on track after failing, and they’ve been interested in Reyes before now. So maybe they see something in him that he needs to do to get back on track. It’s good the Cards were able to get anything at all. So I think it’s a good deal all around. I hope he can turn it around, and he’s got a better shot doing that in Cleveland than he was going to get in St. Louis.
I’m not saying he’s the next Lee or Carmona. I’m saying the Indians know something about dealing with pitchers that have good stuff and don’t know what to do with it. It’s the best possible fit at this point, at least for him. Except their own Jeremy Sowers…..they haven’t helped him much-I guess you can’t fix them all, but lefthanders are flaky.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Thanks for game 1 Anthony
I hope you have success in the Mistake by the Lake
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 26, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
Finally....
Now that this issue is finally taken care of and Duncan is on the DL making him untradeable, does this allow Mo to move on to deals that are actually to help the team this year?
From the Indian's SBN site:
In a separate and unrelated deal, the Indians have acquired RHP Anthony Reyes from the Cardinals for RHP Luis Perdomo. Reyes, 26, has had a solid season in Triple-A with a 3.25 ERA over 11 starts but faired poorly in ten appearances as reliever for the big-league club. Perdomo, 24, utterly dominated much younger Carolina League competition, and he’s pitched well since being promoted to Double-A earlier this month. Neither is considered a significant prospect.Reyes famously shut down the Tigers in Game One of the 2006 World Series, playing a key part in the 82-win club’s improbable postseason run to a title. He has struggled to find any lasting success in the majors, however, with just 10 wins in 38 starts and a career ERA+ of 82. Ironically, the Cardinals to talked seriously to the Indians about acquiring Reyes this past offseason, in exchange for another young starter experiencing serious career difficulties — Cliff Lee.
The Indians presumably are looking at Reyes as a fifth starter option for the rest of this season, giving them a credible option especially in the event they trade Paul Byrd by August 31. Reyes will be out of options after this season, however, making him a non-option as a sixth or seventh starter in 2009. It’s unlikely the Indians will see him as a quality option for the rotation next year, so barring key injuries in Spring Training, he likely will be off our 40-man roster by the end of next March, one way or another.
The part about Cliff Lee made me fall out of my chair. Twice.
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
14-2, 2.29 ERA this year for the Tribe
and he could have been a Cardinal…... I’d fall out of my chair too.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Jul 26, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, now. Cleveland didn't make that deal, did they?
They knew he was better than that down year and they were right.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Good luck, Anthony!
I always liked the high socks, the flat bill, and game 1.
I hope you fins the success in Cleveland you never got here.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
As some of us widely suspected
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/bird-land/2008/07/la-russa-carpenter-starts-wednesday/
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 26, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
I made a seperate fanpost
Sorry about that. I had just hopped on here a minute ago, hadn’t seen anything, so I started a separate fanpost.
Didn’t mean to steal your thunder, my apologies.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
Washburn to Yankees aparently is close to done deal as well
mlbtraderumors.com
Cubs blow
by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 26, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions
Talent-wise
I think he’s no better than a left handed Ponson. Not the off the field issues, but he’s not a light-the-baseball-world-on-fire type of guy. Don’t know why the Yankees are going after him so hard.
But that’s just me.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
good for reyes
i really hope he can get his career together in cleveland. it’s even better for the cards because if he becomes a star, it won’t bite us in the ass as much as if he was traded to a national league team.
i’ll miss ya, anthony.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions
he wasn't going to become a star here
Haren could have, big difference. I wish him all the luck, but to get a guy 2 yrs younger who TLR/Dunc don’t despise has to be about all we could hope for in return.
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 26, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah. Haren would have never been allowed to post the same K rates........
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Way to make a completely false statement
Reyes and Haren are completely different cases with completely different arsenals. Reyes got his minor league strikeouts by going up in the zone with a strong fastball, and occasionally mixing in a change.
Haren on the other hand throws a filthy splitter that falls off the table.
Duncan / La Russa preach pitching low in the zone, which usually results in contact, Reyes was not a low ball pitcher, thus the conflict.
Haren on the other hand, is a low ball pitcher, and his out pitch, the splitter, either results in no contact or ground balls. Haren would’ve been a Duncan wet dream, strike outs and all.
boo cubs, hooray beer
They would have "encouraged" him to get quicker outs, quicker than working a strike out.
I do think Haren would have been a completely different pitcher here. I really do. A star? Maybe, maybe not. Good pitcher, yes. They didn’t keep him around long enough to find out.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Yay, money for DeWitt to not spend on players
Good luck, Reyes. I hope if you play the Cards, you get a shutout. We’d deserve that for fucking with your mechanics and keeping you down for no reason.
Miles in '08
I do not see how trading Reyes messes with the Holliday deal necesarrily
I mean there are plenty of other pieces to that trade rumor! It would be so sweet to get Matt though! That guy is such a stud
They say I look like yadier molina
Colorado deal.....
Is very interesting.
I’d rather include Rasmus, and try to keep some of the pitching, or maybe subsitute Freeze in for Allen, or maybe Skip for Robinson. Would rather not give up Kmac or Garica either. Wish we could base it around Motte, Anderson, Robinson, and Todd.
We’d look a little like this, I think:
Miles 2B
Ludwick RF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ankiel CF
Glaus 3B
Molina C
P
Barmas SS
Duncan/Mather, Kennedy, Ryan, Barton, LaRue on the bench.
Barmes SS
looks soo much better than Iz2 SS or Miles SS.
Speaking of Miles, I dont see him on your bench. Do you think TLR will allow him off the roster? TIC
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
2b
He’s played SS before, am I correct?
Let me check.
According to his BR page, he has played: SS, 2B, 3B, and CF
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
wait a minute
Miles had played CF? I assume it was here? I am kinda upset I missed that.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Barmes a product of Coors?
His home/away splits are scary.
Home (162 games) – .296/.338/.470
Away (169 games) – .227/.266/.333
by RockyMtnRedbird on Jul 27, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
What are the betting odds that Reyes starts the
All-Star Game for the AL in 2010?
Seriously I am happy for Reyes. He can finally get away from Duncan and maybe have a shot at a good career. Kind of wish we could have got a little more for him though…but at least he is free.
cannot feel too bad for him
after all he did get a world series win and a ring while on the Cardinals
They say I look like yadier molina
oh brother an all star?
highly doubtful.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Could it be...
that Perdomo is then sent to Colorado in the Holliday/Fuentes deal? Maybe Mo know of the offer and said to Colorado, if you don’t like Reyes, we can get you this young rising star in Clevelands AA…
Maybe a pipe dream, but who knows?
no one has
verified that rumor at all. Yet the board seems all over it. Timmy K said he doubts that Holliday gets moved at all calling him the face of the franchise.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
it is a peter gammons rumor
and he reported that there is “heated talks” going on about it!
They say I look like yadier molina
He's always wrong. Don't even think about it anymore.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
wouldn't call it a pipe dream
but he’s a 24 year old righty still in AA and from the Dominican which means he could be 26 for all anyone knows. I don’t think that qualifies him as a rising star.
Haven't they fixed the age lying thing?
I remember a lot of people had their ages adjusted about three or four years ago, and I haven’t heard anything of it since.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Tejada
wasnt this a concern with him as recently as this past offseason?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be very much worth it if we have a chance of
hanging on to Holliday for a long time
They say I look like yadier molina
+1
totally agree. Seeing baseball jesus (Pujols) in a lineup with some REAL protection would take this season from its nadir to its zenith. But long time would be through next year. The thing is ludwick and holliday would be blocking rasmus. One has to go and I don’t like the idea of it. Personally making a similar deal for Roberts and Sherrill makes more sense for the team present and future.
Finally
Our long Cardinal national nightmare is over.
Best of luck, Tony. Thanks for game one.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
totally off topic but watching this crappy FOx GOTW and i have to ask
who is a more stupid colorguy – McCarver or Morgan?
mccarver is just awful
at least joe knows something about baseball.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
they were both good baseball players
but obviously that does not translate to the broadcast booth
They say I look like yadier molina
this is true
as much as I cringe every time the man opens his mouth, he did help us win one of our ten world championships! But it is much easier to listen to Morgan than McCarver
They say I look like yadier molina
they both say things that make no sense
morgan – its easier to steal off a lefty than a righty
mccarver – the most important thing with a knuckleball is to call, catch and hit it late – what the hell does it mean to call a knuckleball late? I would love to see a constant live feed from the booth when they do games bc i know Buck has this look like he just wants to punch McCarver in the face half the time.
I have heard many smart baseball people say
that it is easier to steal off a lefty than a righty because the lefty cannot throw over nearly as hard! That is their reasoning anyway. I do not think I agree with it though. I mean with a righty you can steal as soon as he lifts his front foot
They say I look like yadier molina
They say I look like yadier molina ...
if they say you run like yadier molina, then you should start to worry
I have absolutely no interest in defending
either McCarver or Morgan as they are the two worst announcers in baseball history. However, Lou Brock said it was easier to steal against LHPs and that is good enough for me.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
The Yankees
are on a tear….going into Fenway and taking it to the Sox is pretty impressive. The Yanks are also being very agressive in the trading market right now…..if I were a Boston fan I would be a little worried.
Nady and Marte deal was absolute larceny
this is a great example to support the idea that there is no god. bc the stupid yankees get whatever they want while giving up so little.
I think it's more of a case of
low market teams like the Pirates, Royals, ect. seem to get star struck when they deal to teams like the Yankees because the media pumps their franchise up so much that even average prospects for the Yankee seem like gold. It’s crazy but I think there is something to that.
There needs are so massive....they are rebuilding the farm.
This is good for them.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Holiday, Fuentes and Barmes
and not giving up Rasmus. If its at all possible, do it!
I’m just excited about the concept of having a middle infielder who isn’t a total zero.
Milt Thompson FTW!
Oh, something I found kind of cute and sweet and all.....
Some of the folks at Bucs Dugout were wondering why the Pirates (something I had advocated) didn’t throw the Cardinals a reliever for Reyes. It could have been the best place for help right now…....I wonder if the Cards even talked to them?
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
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