Game 105 Overflow
by azruavatar on Jul 25, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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First+ Yanks get Nady and Marte
Jose Tabata looks like the centerpiece.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
I'd rather just forfeit
every 5 days and get the off-time.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This one appears to be just about over
I’d once again like to thank TLR and staff for giving Boggs this start, despite the fact that these same Mets destroyed him his last time out. Bravo.
boo cubs, hooray beer
win or lose
well, it would be lose right now
i want to see 3 runs…make it happen
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
I figured we needed about 7 to win this one
might as well go ahead and make it 8. The offense just has to explode sometime, might as well be in the next inning
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
No it doesn't
unless the Padres are coming to town.
This team’s morale is so low right now, I’m sure a handful of them have already given up on the season.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
miracle comeback win would get them back on track
cant let them keep scoring though
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 25, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Just don't see that happening
they are down and out for the count.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
it doesn't have to be only Pelfry
i will settle for it happening to the bullpen too
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
You think the team has given up on the season?
This team won’t give up.
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 25, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Carpenter heads out to the third
losing 1-0
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one pitch, one out
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sounds like he's leaving pitches up
endemic to all Cardinal pitchers
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Good
Anything to get the Cubs out of 1st place.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
even though I dislike them alot more than I used to because of last night
I’ll be happy to see the Cubs lose sole possession of first place tonight
boo cubs, hooray beer
Brew Crew looks like division winners
their schedule is much easier. Cubbies could be in a fight for the wild card now
it isn't his fault he was rushed before he was ready
and did anyone really think he was ready? I doubt the Cards even thought that.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Well
I don’t want him DFA’d or anything like that. Just not back this year.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Stoke of Midnight
Anyone else feel like time has run out on this Cinderella season? I’m all for making some moves to improve this year’s chances, but not at the cost of future success.
Go crazy folks, go crazy!
Yes
I hope they make no moves for this year now. I’d rather see them move parts that won’t be back next year and get ready for 2009.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Or sign someone like bonds or Freddie Garcia, assuming his arm is still attached to his body, that will not cost us anything but some cash.
Go crazy folks, go crazy!
problem is
where to?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
+1
I think its a little early to sell, but I think MO has to at least listen to some offers for guys like that.
Go crazy folks, go crazy!
Mets won't make the playoffs
they aren’t THIS good. The Phillies are a better team and the Marlins are young/talented enough to bounce the Mets.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as it doesn't include the cubs, I am ok with it.
Just don’t want us to do a stupid rental trade hoping to salvage this season.
carp definitely still struggling with command...
second hit batsmen.
by longhornscardinals on Jul 25, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
With apologies to John Belushi and Animal House:
Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
What the hell happened to the VEB I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? “Ooh, we’re afraid to depressed to cheer for the Cards, we might get in trouble.”
Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. The Cubs, they’re dead ! Brewers, dead! Niedermeyer…
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
Didn't they all end up
getting expelled anyways?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
not until
they bought 10,000 marbles…
by barry whiteteeth on Jul 25, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
ahhh...
the rare 7-run homerun.
rare like the giant squid and the chupacabra
by barry whiteteeth on Jul 25, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols looks like he is just closing
his eyes and swinging.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
So very, very
bad. Gotta move him out of the #3 slot until he gets whatever this is corrected.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Mo, get on the phone and see what you can get for Ludwick
his value will never be higher.
boo cubs, hooray beer
no extra hitter
will albert lay off those pitches
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Pujols absolutely hates baseball right now
you can see it.
He looks like a beaten man.
boo cubs, hooray beer
That's actually true
he looks like he’s given up. I’d be pretty down too if I had to watch this bullpen in person.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
IF they continue to fall out of this
Besides selling Lohse and Ludwick, they should have Pujols get that TJ surgery.
Give him some time away from the game, and let him rest up for a run at this thing in 09 when our chances look much brighter.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Because I don't believe Ryan Ludwick is quite this good
and his value is incredibly high right now.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Even if he is this good...
he’s not really even a full time starter on the team. Why not move him, if you aren’t always going to play him?
And if he’s not good, then definitely sell when his value is the most.
He's probably not too happy with ownership right now either
for not trying to fix anything before the Brewers series.
ank went kindof the opposite way agin
i like it, thats twice in a row
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
Glaus singled
Yadi grounded out.
1 run, 2 stranded.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not just let Flores
finish the game?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
Well at least the media will be happy
they have been hoping the Cards will fall out of the race for a couple months now.
In Memphis, onto the 4th
Carp losing 2-0
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3 up, three down
61 pitches through 4
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the outlook
wasn’t brilliant for the cardinals nine that day…
by barry whiteteeth on Jul 25, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
what do you think
they are so confident reyes will fail that they’d rather keep him at memphis and try to sell some remaining potential? if so, not working too well so far.
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
too many bad memories from last year
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why are they going to burn
thompson tonight. i’m with randy all the way
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
When Dan and Al say
“Gotta give Pitcher X credit, he’s been very good tonight” for like the 5th night in a row….maybe you would begin to realize that the odds of all these pitchers being lights out in a row is nil and the offense may have something to do with that.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
I don't envy Mo at all right now
He knows he should sell, but if he does, he will suffer the wrath of Cardinal nation.
boo cubs, hooray beer
There will be a lot of empty seats at Busch in September anyways
if this loosing keeps up…so might as well sell.
Sell what though?
Outside of Lohse, everything of quality we’ve got is locked up for a while or under team control.
Why sell Ludwick
he is still under team control too, isnt he?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
That just adds to his value...
If Ludwick really is this good, he’s largely wasted here, because he won’t even be a starter. He’ll likely still platoon with Skippy and Duncan next year, even if he hits.
If he’s not really this good, move him now while he has value.
Lohse, Looper, Ludwick
Glaus if you can get a high value return (although he has a NTC), Shumaker, Reyes, off the top of my head.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
but
who’s he gonna sell?
cd, dl
rasmus, dl
looper, who wants him
luddy, who thinks he’s a one hit wonder and too old
even rick is questionable because of boras
just don’t see much other than albert and yadi and glaus ho are proven major league plus players
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
plus I don't want to sell Luddy
we still need a RF for next year. Mather is unproven, and I am not sure I want Duncan to be the starter out there.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I certainly don't want Duncan out there
I just don’t believe Ludwick will be this good again next year. I guess i’m still feeling burned by the whole Duncan thing, when we could’ve gotten a ton for him, and they waited too long and now he sucks and has no value.
boo cubs, hooray beer
not saying no value, but
turn it around. if luddy was playing for the bucs, which two of our prospects would you give for him, like for nady?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I would give up more to get Ludwick than I would for Nady
every day of the week
Contenders who think they are one piece away and could use a power bat, would overpay for Ludwick. Reversing the situation doesn’t work, because the Cardinals aren’t one piece away.
boo cubs, hooray beer
well
we have won every series since the break in which glaus hit .500
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Carp sharp in the 5th
seven pitch inning. Still losing
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Was just about to say
What’s Wonderbrad gotta do to earn himself a start?
Next pitch, it’s 7-0 Pond Scum.
7-1
pondscum.
lets give our boys a little credit
/end sarcasm
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 25, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
This is so much fun
I love Cardinals baseball!
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
We should have had some of our pitchers pitch at the HR derby this year
the way they have been giving up the long ball.
We haven't had one of those glorious 8 game losing
streaks yet this season, have we?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
Well
this just makes our row a little tougher to hoe for the rest of the evening.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
remember the fight the team had in situations like thesee
early in the year…doesnt seem to be there anymore
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 25, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably because they know
that even if they battled back, Franklin/Izzy/KMac/ would turn around and give it right back.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They know ownership let them down
by not getting somebody a few weeks ago to give the club a little “pick me up” after Tony was asking for some help.
Jimmy the Cat has said on the radio shows for a couple of weeks now
that players have been asking him if they are going to make a trade for some help…so it wouldn’t suprise me.
I dont buy it either
we have had a sweep recently and havent fared too bad against the opponents, save MIL, recently. We just seem to be on the schnide lately. Also, when your BP has to go 3.5 innings/night, this kinda thing will happen where your pitching staff seems tired all the time. Other than getting another arm or hitting MIF to replace one or two we have, I dont know what to do.
thought train over.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 25, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
As others have said, this is what happens...
when you have a team full of overachievers who give 110% every night. When they crash, they crash hard. Morale drops, they no longer believe in themselves and their ability to win every night and things go down hill from there. It also doesn’t help that a ton of their losses are of the heartbreaking fashion thanks to the god awful bullpen.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Carp's not done tonight
pitching the sixth
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come on pujols
at least we can watch you play like a winner
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
or not
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 25, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
holy shit ap!!!
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
painful to watch
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Carp done for the night
strikes out last batter.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
Whaddya think, HL?
Is Carp ready? Seems better than Pineiro and Looper right now.
Of course it depends on his elbow being pain free tomorrow.
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I think you should give him 2 more rehab starts
this season is pretty much over, don’t rush him back and risk hurting our chances for 09
boo cubs, hooray beer
Bring him back
there is no difference right now pitching at the big league level or the minor league level for his development. His secondary pitches are all there.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
and keep him on a pitch count
for the next two starts if you’re worried about him
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Think I agree
it’d be a pisser to listen to him rolling at Memphis next week while the big league club trots out some underripe piece of meat to get pummelled.
Final Line:
5 2/3IP 5K 1BB 4H 10GO 2FO
2 hits on groundballs, 1 on a soft flyball, 1 on a soft liner.
C'mon Yadi
think like its 2006, youre in the NLCS, and your team is down. Lose this one in the seats/bullpen.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
nevermind.
We’ll get em next time.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 25, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow,Im sure its wrong but,
Albert looks like he has maybe cashed it in for the season. He doesnt even look like its bothering him. Plus how he walked to the plate on that AB, it was like he was thinking to himself , OK…whatever…who cares.
I said it before
he looks like a man whose dog just died. He’s going through the motions, but you can tell he is beaten.
boo cubs, hooray beer
send that man
some lexapro
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
his elbow must be just killing him
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He's exhibited nothing that
shows that. It’s a built in excuse we give him, and maybe it is but we shouldn’t just default to “he must be hurt” everytime he does poorly.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Partially, but I think alot of it's mental also
Alberts a gamer. Watching his bullpen blow that many games, has taken it’s toll on him.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Its taken a toll on me, so I can just imagine how the team feels about it
by buzzburton33 on Jul 25, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert want to win badly so I can see how that Brewers series
took alot out of his “mental strength” right now.
on it
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 25, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like calling Beer - Franklins
Beer is a wonderful thing , Ryan Franklin isn’t.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Putting away a rather skunky Rolling Rock. (Going to the bench after burning all my starters last night.)
Trying to decide where to kick it tonight over this last inning.
Just got back
from two hours of margaritas and gorditas with the wife and my folks at peublo solis. Not the way I had hoped the game would have unwound upon return.
Time for some wine.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
Why the hell didn't Thompson get the start today over Boggs?
Thompson isn’t great, but he’s a much better option than Boggs at this point.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Oh good grief
just get DFA’d already
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the fact he is still on the team is really amazing
I would think about 95% of the rest of the teams in MLB would have DFA’ed him a few months ago.
OT - BrewCrew still up 1-0
Two on, two out for Miggy
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err Carlos Lee, up
sorry
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new cardinal theme song
“everybody hurts” by r.e.m.
true on so many levels
by barry whiteteeth on Jul 25, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Such hope
2 on, no outs.
How many pitches until 3 outs now?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
I'd pitch around the next 2 hitters
and go after Pujols.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
I wish
you were in the Mets dugout.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
Then again
LHP vs Skip, so…go after him first. Walk Ludwick, go after Pujols.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 25, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
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