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Game 104 Open Thread, 24 July 2008

Sheets

Col. Wellsie

10-3, 2.88

8-4, 4.22

It only seems like yesterday when Ben Sheets was the big hero for the US Olympic team in 2000. Now he's the big stud starter looking for a big payday at the end of the season. I was hoping to see Colby get his chance to go to Beijing and make a statement. Ah well.

Much has been said about Wellemeyer's struggles as of late. But he's shown a bit of improvement in his last couple of starts (he at least went 6+ IP both times, which, as stated in the below main post, is an underappreciated factor in bullpen effectiveness), but his strikeout and walk rates still don't seem to have gotten back to what they were before his elbow went. In his win against the Padres, he had 3 BB to 2 K, while giving up five runs.

Hopefully he's relearning his control and his focus, because he's going to need everything he's got against Ben Sheets, who seems to be making a Cy bid in his walk year. No one on the Cardinals current roster has a very spectacular history against Sheets beyond Pujols (26 for 66, 4 HR 10 RBI, 1.66 OPS), and Brendan Ryan in limited at bats.

Hopefully they can stay within reach, get some chances against that somewhat weak bullpen, and avoid the sweep. I'm still mad that we didn't get a chance against Gagné last night (who was warming in the pen when the game ended).

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Why not win this one boys

Might be a bad series, but would give us a winning homestand!!

by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 24, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Colonel

I was at the game on Saturday and he wasn’t sharp during the first two innings. The defense let him down in the first inning, too. Still, I wrote on my scorecard his ball/strike count after each inning. After the second, he had thrown 17 strikes to 19 balls (-2). He ended the game having thrown 51 strikes to 33 balls (+18). So, in innings three through seven, The Colonel threw 34 strikes to 14 balls.

Wellemeyer finding his groove was evident just in watching the pace of the game. He was challenging Padres by just pounding the zone and he was very efficient. Hopefully this was a turned corner from him and we will see more of it tonight.

by bgh on Jul 24, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly

I couldn’t tell you how many “why is he pulling Wellemeyer for Flores NOW” I heard in the section I was sitting in on Saturday. I think from the 3rd inning on he looked as good or better than he has at any point this season. Now if we can only get seven solid innings out of him tonight.

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

On an earlier thread, I posted this:

Wellemeyer vs. LHB:

.243 BAA/.308 OBPA/.403 SLGA/.711 OPSA

Flores vs. LHB*

.263 BAA/.388 OBPA/.447 SLGA/.835 OPSA

  • Randy Flores is left-handed.

TLR’s pitching change boggled the mind. It caused the Cards to use four pitchers for the inning (counting Wellemeyer) instead of one pitcher for the inning (counting Wellemeyer). The Colonel was only at 84 pitches, to boot.

by bgh on Jul 24, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

he was mixing in his slider effectively. I’ve got a stack of internet dollars on the line that he turned the corner, mechanically, in that game.

C’mon, Colonel. I need that imaginary money.

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

you sure are free with those internet dollars

you think they grow on trees or something?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That'll

help pay off that imaginary Russian you owe all that imaginary money to,

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Jul 24, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

he’s going to break my imaginary legs if I don’t.

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you play softball

with imaginary legs?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was so discouraged last night

figuring the season is probably over now, but today is a new day, and if you’re a true fan – which people here are – there is always hope. If nothing else, we get to watch a sport most of us love. We get to watch a baseball game…...not all bad! We’ll miss it when it’s snowing and 15 degrees outside.

Here’s to the Cardinals…...our team! Go get ‘em, boys!

(three hours from now I’ll be cussing out half the team, probably!!)

by ccthemovieman on Jul 24, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I still believe in a place called "Hope"

Only 3 GB in the NL Central. With a win tonight, we will only be 1 GB in the Wild Card. And that is with Carp and Wainwright on the horizon. Perhaps, also with a reliever via trade. In Cardinal Nation, there is much to be hopeful about, even if Ben Sheets is on the hill tonight for the Brewers…

by bgh on Jul 24, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having Ben Sheets on the mound alone gives me hope

I really shouldn’t have went there, but I think the team overcomes any possible jinx by me tonight

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed the game

and played possibly the worst softball of my life. I was more pissed about my own failings than the Cards getting shut down by one of the best pitchers in the game.

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mets are red hot

right now (thanks to us for getting them fired up at Busch).

Gotta win tonight, that Mets series is going to be brutal.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Santana vs. Lohse projected for Sunday

That ought to be a good contest to watch.

by bgh on Jul 24, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

you aren't going to be happy HL

Hrabosky is back on the Wagonmaker for closer spiel

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is The Mad Hungarian drunk?

Why on God’s green earth would we ever do that?

If anything, Col. Closer sounds appealing…

by bgh on Jul 24, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

his saloon is pretty damn close to the ballpark

that actually might explain a lot

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least, where I am, I can listen

to Keith Hernandez or Ron Darling, instead of Al Hrabosky when the Cards play the Mets. A vast upgrade in color commentaters.

by ccthemovieman on Jul 24, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's our job

to put the genie back in the bottle.

Pedro’s probably going to miss us. Facing Pelfrey tomorrow instead.

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY IS MINI ME STARTING AT SS AGAIN?

JEBUZ TONY

it’s bad enough AK is starting at 2nd, but why do you keep doing this to us?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Lineups with nicknames (it couldn't hurt the luck, right?)

Skippy LF
Grit SS
APu 1B
Ank CF
Boss 3B
Studwick RF
Stache C
Col P
AK 2B

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Why does TLR insist on playing Grit at SS?

It’s really bordering on the absurd. They justify Izturis with his D, but then play Grit at SS? It’s nonsensical.

by bgh on Jul 24, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

well now i know why IZturis isnt playing

he has a whopping .182 career OPS versus Sheets

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

any one see Wagonmaker giving Jimmy "The Cat" Hayes rabbit ears

as his interview ended on the pre game? pretty funny stuff

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

and it was with his non-pitching hand

thankfully!

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

***Wagonmaker Update***

From the official site:

Adam Wainwright threw a bullpen session prior to the start of the Cardinals’ series finale against the Brewers on Thursday.

It was Wainwright’s latest session as he prepares to make his way off the disabled list, and the right-hander reported no pain. Since he was placed on the DL, the Cardinals have stayed afloat, going 21-19.

Wainwright will continue to throw bullpen sessions every other day until the club decides on his rehabilitation starts. Wainwright is hoping to rejoin the club within the next two weeks, at best

by bgh on Jul 24, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets make it 22-19

tonight!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's go KFC

shut em down tonight

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

good evening

let’s salvage one game here! good start colonel!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Big K Tadallion

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

good start

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

good start indeed

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid joker hits dont cost us

i hate when they lead to runs for the bad guys

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steady diet of fastballs

from the Colonel

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

well that's a good start

i still wanna see the cards hitters make ‘em work though.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

ben is one of the quickest workers in baseball

skip loves to swing at the first pitch

winner….skip

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice 1b Skippy!

Lets get after this schmo early!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

alright pujols

patience, then explosion

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

heh

Ank’s OBP is lower than Pujols’ BA

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

only 42 players in the nL

have a higher OBP above Pujols’ BA.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

his elbow is clearly killing him right now

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh i even almost forgot about that

that would be a reasonable concern wouldn’t it.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

he needs TJ on his right one

remember?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Roy

lose this in the seats!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

that works Rick

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

thank ya

Ank

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

1-0

NICE HIT ROY!

not exactly the seats, but thatll work!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

oh he juuuuust missed that

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Vitameataveggiman

is just absolutely large over there on first for the brew crew

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

hard to believe

but Ive seen him at Minute Maid. Quite large

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

He is only about 12 inches big on my tv.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1234584616831.24616910321.265111202304461

well played, sir. well played.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Glaus win the GG this year?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd say its a possibility

though, it’ll probably go to Chipper or someone with a bigger NL name.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Zimmerman

missing a month and a half will probably kill his chances for this year, but he’s bound to start winning it every time once of these seasons.

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

David Wright, for one, gets more press being in NY

by ccthemovieman on Jul 24, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

no doubt about it

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luddy

Lets see you crush this like a Cardinal!

props go to whoever made that wallpaper in the fanshot section. It came up on a google search for “Cardinal Wallpaper”.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

which one was that?

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by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

this one

courtesy of redbirddude

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's pretty cool

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you believe

Gameday’s pitch f/x classifier, the Colonel has thrown only one slider so far, all fastballs the rest of the way.

He’s going to outflank them the second time around, no doubt.

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

i love Hanley Ramirez

i really do

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

1-2-3

set em down Colonel.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

hence why i love Hanley

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

My dyslexia is working overtime today

It took about 4 reads of what you wrote to figure out it wasn’t the cubs who had the 2-0 lead. I kept reading “and the Cubs lead 2-0.”

Frustrations.

by Tackle Box on Jul 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Z just got a K on a strike on the inside corner that almost hit the batter

i mean it wasn’t even close

oh how i hate the MLB umps

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

i think even robot umps

would be skewed the cubby way at wrigley

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish i could say something about skip swing on the first pitch

but you know. He did it in the first AB and ended up scoring.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

i'll still say something

they really need to take pitches and make sheets work.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hall can't handle the grit of Mini Me

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

With all due respect

I don’t think I can handle the grit, either

by voltronchris on Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

sac fly

ill take it

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

sac fly works

man i hope his elbow holds up

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

thank you

APu

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice SAC AP

I really hope you get outta this “slump” soon.

Slumpin, yet still producing!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

does anyone know where to look

for team pitches per at bat rankings.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Took a while

but I found it here. We’re at 3.68, league average is 3.8.


Pitches per plate appearance: CHN 3.89 FLA 3.88 ARI 3.86 LAN 3.85 COL 3.84 SDG 3.83 MIL 3.82 PHI 3.81 PIT 3.81 NYN 3.79 CIN 3.77 HOU 3.77 ATL 3.71 WAS 3.71 SFO 3.71 STL 3.68

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless you are ak or miles

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think their gameplan for the series

has been to try and jump on brewers pitchers early and early in the count but that has failed miserably

by 916baller on Jul 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

granted

we have scored early in three of the games

by 916baller on Jul 24, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

good analysis al, i agree

no stupid hops on the leadoff

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

triple play!

c’mon, lets see it!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

almost

huge DP though

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

dp

NICE

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I think so too

they couldve had Vitameataveggiman at second by my view.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

he was still gettin’ there when troy threw it to first.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh hell yeah

we needed that DP

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know about "dumb".

I’ll talke the 2 and won’t complain.

by Tackle Box on Jul 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

have to make sure of too

getting too fancy will cost you more sometimes

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh man that was strike 3 blue!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

man

talk about losing a guy.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

strike one to cameron

was the same as the ones hall got by with as balls, weren’t they?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty dang close

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

now finish him

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

this ump is driving me crazy

make up your damn mind already

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

i’d almost like to see puppy kicker more than boggs.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

shit

fresh count and bases loaded

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

two straight

eight plus pitch at bats is what we needed against c.c.

by 916baller on Jul 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

wellemeyer poor connand

we aren’t reverting to pre 2008 are we?

by azruavatar on Jul 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

shit

now he can’t throw a strike.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

oh no

no walk plz

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

you dont see the trouble he's having locating

do you? somethin doesnt seem right.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he's frustrated

from not getting the calls he deserved. He needs to suck it up and finish it off

by voltronchris on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's being crafty

Ump’s calling strikes as balls, stands to reason…

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on Welley

get it together

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

back to the future

for welle and his control

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

jesus.

this ump needs to get his walking papers.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

welle looks whipped

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm late to the party

Welly been ok? His pitch count looks decent, but he’s in a heap of trouble right now.

by effin fisk on Jul 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

he's getting squeezed

he was good till this inning, now the ump doesn’t know whats going on

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was cruising

until this inning. 40 pitches here.

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

well that’s one way to lose a game

by riotmute on Jul 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

a lot

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

70

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

70

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he looked good early

but the lack of off speed pitches early was a warning sign that this might happen.

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

What the hell, how does a guy just implode like that

and suddenly lose the strike zone? pathetic colonel.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

that was a gift

from ben

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

three straight walks

and four so far this inning…that is really bad

by 916baller on Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

But we've all agreed

that two of them were complete BS

by voltronchris on Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coulda been worse

if he hadn’t mixed in the DP.

DAMN, ALL-STAR LUD!

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

he just cant miss a bat

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

luddy

all that bad stuff, only one run
whew

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

GloveWick saves the day

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

that was bad

pitch number 6 in the AB against Hall was a strike. Should have been strike 3. Pitch number 3 against Cameron was close enough to be a strike. And if the ump isn’t calling that outside pitch(like on number 6) he should give the pitcher that inside corner.

Grrrr.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

well

that strike out of glaus. Just shows that it isn’t the same for sheets.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

even the brewer announcers were on that issue

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh and it lead to 17 more pitches

and one run after that missed strike call.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Long half-inning by the bats, now

the Colonel needs his rest.

What do they say about coming up to bat in the half-inning after you make a great play?

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

A possible TP not attempted and a blown ump call

Just cost Welley big-time – to shift the blame from his implosion, which now possibly forces us to go to the you-know-what early again.

by ccthemovieman on Jul 24, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Triple play

possible, sure, but unlikely. If we’d gone for it and failed to get two, it’d be a tied ballgame.

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

bullshit

bullshit

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure looks bad

on gameday.

“This umpire’s hearing it now from the Cardinal dugout.” sez Dan.

by liam on Jul 24, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a bunch of bullshit

that wasn’t a strike last inning.

asshole.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

WHAT?!??

Is this umpire from Wisconsin?

by voltronchris on Jul 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

is he eating cheese

and washing it down with a beer?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wtf???

I think we are all thinking the same thing

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

ok Ludwick

let’s see some offense

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW!

How does he get that call? That is complete crap!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

i belive a good word for it

is horseshit

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont talk like that though

so, I’ll call it horse crap.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I typically like seeing Greg Olsen get his ass kicked

since I laught everytime he pitches thinking about not only Joe Girardi knocking him on his ass, but Sergio Mitre doing it as well.

Scott Olsen. Classic ass hat.

Unfortunately he’s pitching against the cubs tonight.

by Tackle Box on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

error

ERROR, free run

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

its still April

says Al. nice

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

thank you corey

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

baseball gods on our side for once

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

The baseball gods will punish us

when we have to go to our bullpen.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean

The Thing That Cannot Be Named?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on

serve it to left AK

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

nope

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

the Colonel tearin shit up!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

did i see that right

cameron nearly missed that ball?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

i had high hopes

right before the call got to him

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Olsen is in all kinds of trouble in the windy city

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Who's our best chance our of the bullpen tonight?

The rain… Who’s with me? 40% chance of scattered t-storms for the rest of the evening.

by AndyB83 on Jul 24, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

you got it

dustin hofffman

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely yeah

definitely yeah

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

after the fifth

as long as it comes after the fifth

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides...

The rain took one away... the weather owes us.

by AndyB83 on Jul 24, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

you had to bring that up.

It’s bad enough that we’ve lost three in a row.

I want my win back damnit.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

man

come on welley, locate

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

that strike was outside

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

it would have been right where

it was called on Glaus last inning.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus christ

that ball was downt he middle, what a fucking joke

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

man

This up is flipping coins for balls and strikes. And that wave is getting annoying

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf

wasn’t that the strike that got glaus?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm

never thought I’d hear PFPs mentioned on tv.

by Tackle Box on Jul 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought that was reserverd for Joe Morgan and Jon Miller

on MLB 2K7 and 8.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welle has absolutely nothing right now

and ole TLR doesn’t seem to give a damn.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 24, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

TLR

has already been on the phone. Looked like McClellan was throwing up in the pen.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Russ is up now

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

I thought it was Hometown.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

good night Tadallion

man, he is done

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

I’ll be there – I don’t know what to expect

by riotmute on Jul 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

God Dammit

Can these starting pitchers just get through six f’ing innings? I mean, really

by riotmute on Jul 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

it doesn't help

that at least 2 of our starters are bullpen guys

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck

close

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

AK actually did a good job getting Mini Me the ball

that was a wicked bounce

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a great play

if hart was a little slower and miles had a better arm that would have been a web gem.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

would not have been

if iz2 was at short on braun’s ball

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

oh thank god welley

we still have a lead somehow

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

it is a miracle

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey look what i found!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

read the post before seeing the play

by riotmute on Jul 24, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

woo

holy crap

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 24, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

This outing was the opposite of Wellemeyer's last outing

Started off great, then went to hell.

I miss first month wellemeyer

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 24, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

and he could had been out of this inning a lot sooner

A DP ball that Izturis or Ryan gets to made it through the infield.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was just positioned wrong

dont think iz2 or ryan would have got it

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 24, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

great there's two overflows up

which one do we use?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 24, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

use mine

most of us migrated over there.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 24, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

shit

I was cooking and watching the game and didn’t notice. I’ll FP yours stlfang

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

sup guys!

well lets wish some luck to kmac…

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the bottom of the eighth!

by Paulspike on Jul 24, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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