Game 104 Open Thread, 24 July 2008
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10-3, 2.88 |
8-4, 4.22 |
It only seems like yesterday when Ben Sheets was the big hero for the US Olympic team in 2000. Now he's the big stud starter looking for a big payday at the end of the season. I was hoping to see Colby get his chance to go to Beijing and make a statement. Ah well.
Much has been said about Wellemeyer's struggles as of late. But he's shown a bit of improvement in his last couple of starts (he at least went 6+ IP both times, which, as stated in the below main post, is an underappreciated factor in bullpen effectiveness), but his strikeout and walk rates still don't seem to have gotten back to what they were before his elbow went. In his win against the Padres, he had 3 BB to 2 K, while giving up five runs.
Hopefully he's relearning his control and his focus, because he's going to need everything he's got against Ben Sheets, who seems to be making a Cy bid in his walk year. No one on the Cardinals current roster has a very spectacular history against Sheets beyond Pujols (26 for 66, 4 HR 10 RBI, 1.66 OPS), and Brendan Ryan in limited at bats.
Hopefully they can stay within reach, get some chances against that somewhat weak bullpen, and avoid the sweep. I'm still mad that we didn't get a chance against Gagné last night (who was warming in the pen when the game ended).
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Why not win this one boys
Might be a bad series, but would give us a winning homestand!!
by hoofhearted-pujols on
Jul 24, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
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Colonel
I was at the game on Saturday and he wasn’t sharp during the first two innings. The defense let him down in the first inning, too. Still, I wrote on my scorecard his ball/strike count after each inning. After the second, he had thrown 17 strikes to 19 balls (-2). He ended the game having thrown 51 strikes to 33 balls (+18). So, in innings three through seven, The Colonel threw 34 strikes to 14 balls.
Wellemeyer finding his groove was evident just in watching the pace of the game. He was challenging Padres by just pounding the zone and he was very efficient. Hopefully this was a turned corner from him and we will see more of it tonight.
by bgh on
Jul 24, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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exactly
I couldn’t tell you how many “why is he pulling Wellemeyer for Flores NOW” I heard in the section I was sitting in on Saturday. I think from the 3rd inning on he looked as good or better than he has at any point this season. Now if we can only get seven solid innings out of him tonight.
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
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On an earlier thread, I posted this:
Wellemeyer vs. LHB:
.243 BAA/.308 OBPA/.403 SLGA/.711 OPSA
Flores vs. LHB*
.263 BAA/.388 OBPA/.447 SLGA/.835 OPSA
- Randy Flores is left-handed.
TLR’s pitching change boggled the mind. It caused the Cards to use four pitchers for the inning (counting Wellemeyer) instead of one pitcher for the inning (counting Wellemeyer). The Colonel was only at 84 pitches, to boot.
by bgh on
Jul 24, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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And
he was mixing in his slider effectively. I’ve got a stack of internet dollars on the line that he turned the corner, mechanically, in that game.
C’mon, Colonel. I need that imaginary money.
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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you sure are free with those internet dollars
you think they grow on trees or something?
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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That'll
help pay off that imaginary Russian you owe all that imaginary money to,
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on
Jul 24, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
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Seriously
he’s going to break my imaginary legs if I don’t.
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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how do you play softball
with imaginary legs?
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
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I was so discouraged last night
figuring the season is probably over now, but today is a new day, and if you’re a true fan – which people here are – there is always hope. If nothing else, we get to watch a sport most of us love. We get to watch a baseball game…...not all bad! We’ll miss it when it’s snowing and 15 degrees outside.
Here’s to the Cardinals…...our team! Go get ‘em, boys!
(three hours from now I’ll be cussing out half the team, probably!!)
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Jul 24, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
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I still believe in a place called "Hope"
Only 3 GB in the NL Central. With a win tonight, we will only be 1 GB in the Wild Card. And that is with Carp and Wainwright on the horizon. Perhaps, also with a reliever via trade. In Cardinal Nation, there is much to be hopeful about, even if Ben Sheets is on the hill tonight for the Brewers…
by bgh on
Jul 24, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
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Having Ben Sheets on the mound alone gives me hope
I really shouldn’t have went there, but I think the team overcomes any possible jinx by me tonight
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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I missed the game
and played possibly the worst softball of my life. I was more pissed about my own failings than the Cards getting shut down by one of the best pitchers in the game.
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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Mets are red hot
right now (thanks to us for getting them fired up at Busch).
Gotta win tonight, that Mets series is going to be brutal.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jul 24, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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Santana vs. Lohse projected for Sunday
That ought to be a good contest to watch.
by bgh on
Jul 24, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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you aren't going to be happy HL
Hrabosky is back on the Wagonmaker for closer spiel
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Is The Mad Hungarian drunk?
Why on God’s green earth would we ever do that?
If anything, Col. Closer sounds appealing…
by bgh on
Jul 24, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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his saloon is pretty damn close to the ballpark
that actually might explain a lot
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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he thinks that we are going to duplicate 2006
doesn’t he?
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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What a tool
Someone shut that fool up.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jul 24, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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Mets don't scare me as much as the Brewers
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jul 24, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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At least, where I am, I can listen
to Keith Hernandez or Ron Darling, instead of Al Hrabosky when the Cards play the Mets. A vast upgrade in color commentaters.
by ccthemovieman on
Jul 24, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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It's our job
to put the genie back in the bottle.
Pedro’s probably going to miss us. Facing Pelfrey tomorrow instead.
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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WHY IS MINI ME STARTING AT SS AGAIN?
JEBUZ TONY
it’s bad enough AK is starting at 2nd, but why do you keep doing this to us?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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Lineups with nicknames (it couldn't hurt the luck, right?)
Skippy LF
Grit SS
APu 1B
Ank CF
Boss 3B
Studwick RF
Stache C
Col P
AK 2B
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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Why does TLR insist on playing Grit at SS?
It’s really bordering on the absurd. They justify Izturis with his D, but then play Grit at SS? It’s nonsensical.
by bgh on
Jul 24, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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well now i know why IZturis isnt playing
he has a whopping .182 career OPS versus Sheets
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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any one see Wagonmaker giving Jimmy "The Cat" Hayes rabbit ears
as his interview ended on the pre game? pretty funny stuff
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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and it was with his non-pitching hand
thankfully!
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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***Wagonmaker Update***
Adam Wainwright threw a bullpen session prior to the start of the Cardinals’ series finale against the Brewers on Thursday.It was Wainwright’s latest session as he prepares to make his way off the disabled list, and the right-hander reported no pain. Since he was placed on the DL, the Cardinals have stayed afloat, going 21-19.
Wainwright will continue to throw bullpen sessions every other day until the club decides on his rehabilitation starts. Wainwright is hoping to rejoin the club within the next two weeks, at best
by bgh on
Jul 24, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
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Lets make it 22-19
tonight!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
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let's go KFC
shut em down tonight
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
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good evening
let’s salvage one game here! good start colonel!
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
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Big K Tadallion
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
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good start
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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+1
good start indeed
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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stupid joker hits dont cost us
i hate when they lead to runs for the bad guys
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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Steady diet of fastballs
from the Colonel
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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good start wellemeyer
throwin’ strikes.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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Come Todd, turn that corner, turrrrrn it
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jul 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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well that's a good start
i still wanna see the cards hitters make ‘em work though.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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ben is one of the quickest workers in baseball
skip loves to swing at the first pitch
winner….skip
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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Nice 1b Skippy!
Lets get after this schmo early!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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memo to grit: you got your name grit for a reason. you're not a home run hitter.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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Grand Slam
notwithstanding?
j/k, I agree completely
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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alright pujols
patience, then explosion
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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i'm absolutely sick of him expanding his zone
he should know better.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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heh
Ank’s OBP is lower than Pujols’ BA
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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only 42 players in the nL
have a higher OBP above Pujols’ BA.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 24, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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his elbow is clearly killing him right now
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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eh i even almost forgot about that
that would be a reasonable concern wouldn’t it.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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what happened to his elbow?
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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he needs TJ on his right one
remember?
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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oh yeah
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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AP is just waving at the ball
looks like duncan (sorry)
by ccthemovieman on
Jul 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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C'mon Roy
lose this in the seats!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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ank comes trough
we have the early lead
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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good to see us manufacturing some runs for a change
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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that works Rick
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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thank ya
Ank
strikeouts from left-center
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1-0
NICE HIT ROY!
not exactly the seats, but thatll work!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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already scored more runs than last night.
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Jul 24, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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oh he juuuuust missed that
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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Vitameataveggiman
is just absolutely large over there on first for the brew crew
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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hard to believe
but Ive seen him at Minute Maid. Quite large
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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yes
He is only about 12 inches big on my tv.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 24, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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Thank God I got this widescreen TV
I can see half of him now
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Jul 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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+1234584616831.24616910321.265111202304461
well played, sir. well played.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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Is it me or does glaus always look like he's gonna smash something when he misses a pitch?
by madeintaiwan on
Jul 24, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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he does get very angry
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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at least you can never accuse Glaus of not caring
I am starting to like the bat throws, I wonder how many he breaks in a season doing that
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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I just hope he gets some of his teammates fired up
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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Does Glaus win the GG this year?
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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chipper is hitting better
so no. :-p
by hex706f726368 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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i know you meant that as a joke
but it’s true.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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I'd say its a possibility
though, it’ll probably go to Chipper or someone with a bigger NL name.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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if it's anything like the catcher GG last year
Chipper will get it.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on
Jul 24, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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Ryan Zimmerman
missing a month and a half will probably kill his chances for this year, but he’s bound to start winning it every time once of these seasons.
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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What are some other good 3rd Basemen in the NL this year?
Pretty good stats by glaus
by madeintaiwan on
Jul 24, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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Cubs should not be allowed to win GG
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by mattyfrommo on
Jul 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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go wash your mouth out with soap,
young man!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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No
David Wright, for one, gets more press being in NY
by ccthemovieman on
Jul 24, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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no doubt about it
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Luddy
Lets see you crush this like a Cardinal!
props go to whoever made that wallpaper in the fanshot section. It came up on a google search for “Cardinal Wallpaper”.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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And was a mainstay on my desktop for months
by voltronchris on
Jul 24, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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which one was that?
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
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this one

courtesy of redbirddude
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
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Jul 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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missed it at the time
it is now my desktop.
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Jul 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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that's pretty cool
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Jul 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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If you believe
Gameday’s pitch f/x classifier, the Colonel has thrown only one slider so far, all fastballs the rest of the way.
He’s going to outflank them the second time around, no doubt.
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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they are gettin' some shots off sheets.
hopefully they can eventually get it out.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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the Kentucky Friggin Colonel is back
strikeouts from left-center
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Jul 24, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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i love Hanley Ramirez
i really do
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Jul 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
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if only
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Jul 24, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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1-2-3
set em down Colonel.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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The Marlins just jumped on Zambrano
and lead the Cubs 2-0.
by ccthemovieman on
Jul 24, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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hence why i love Hanley
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Jul 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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My dyslexia is working overtime today
It took about 4 reads of what you wrote to figure out it wasn’t the cubs who had the 2-0 lead. I kept reading “and the Cubs lead 2-0.”
Frustrations.
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Jul 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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Pop-ups and strikeouts
the power pitchin’ Wellemeyer is back indeed.
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Jul 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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givin the Brew Crew a taste of their own medicine
i like it
i like it a lot
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Jul 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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just hope it doesn't end in injured wellemeyer.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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Not worried about that
he’s still only thrown one slider.
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
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worked the count
for a walk
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Jul 24, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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Z just got a K on a strike on the inside corner that almost hit the batter
i mean it wasn’t even close
oh how i hate the MLB umps
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Jul 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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the umps looooooooooove the cubs
esp at wrigley.
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Jul 24, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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i think even robot umps
would be skewed the cubby way at wrigley
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Jul 24, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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this really is the brewers time to make a run....they are gonna be struggling next year....sheets, sabathia, fielder...all gone
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Jul 24, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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Big Veg isn't going any where
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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i guess that's what happens when you spend 45 mil on Suppan and you dont have Cubbie like money to spend
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Jul 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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i don't understand what you mean, he's arbitration eligible
they’ll be able to afford him.
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Jul 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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this year...
but he’s going to get really expensive soon. They’ll probably have to trade him to the AL either this or next off-season.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on
Jul 24, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
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I forsee a gritty single to the right side
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
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Jul 24, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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you are correct sir
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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well, not the side
i forgive you
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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i wish i could say something about skip swing on the first pitch
but you know. He did it in the first AB and ended up scoring.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 24, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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i'll still say something
they really need to take pitches and make sheets work.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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that sure was gritty
suck it hall.
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Jul 24, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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Double for miles =
Bases loaded for Ankiel?
by Evilfrog on
Jul 24, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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Here we go
Albert…..you are SO due
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Jul 24, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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Hall can't handle the grit of Mini Me
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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With all due respect
I don’t think I can handle the grit, either
by voltronchris on
Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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sac fly
ill take it
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Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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sac fly works
man i hope his elbow holds up
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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grit rulz
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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thank you
APu
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Nice SAC AP
I really hope you get outta this “slump” soon.
Slumpin, yet still producing!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Anyone think our plan is to swing at the first pitch tonight?
by AndyB83 on
Jul 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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how is that different from every other night?
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jul 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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does anyone know where to look
for team pitches per at bat rankings.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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Took a while
but I found it here. We’re at 3.68, league average is 3.8.
Pitches per plate appearance:CHN 3.89 FLA 3.88 ARI 3.86 LAN 3.85 COL 3.84 SDG 3.83 MIL 3.82 PHI 3.81 PIT 3.81 NYN 3.79 CIN 3.77 HOU 3.77 ATL 3.71 WAS 3.71 SFO 3.71 STL 3.68
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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unless you are ak or miles
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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I guess you can't argue with success
but Braun’s knock-kneed batting stance looks plane silly
by voltronchris on
Jul 24, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
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i think their gameplan for the series
has been to try and jump on brewers pitchers early and early in the count but that has failed miserably
by 916baller on
Jul 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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good analysis al, i agree
no stupid hops on the leadoff
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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triple play!
c’mon, lets see it!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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almost
huge DP though
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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dp
NICE
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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that almost could've been a triple play.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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I think so too
they couldve had Vitameataveggiman at second by my view.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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oh yeah
he was still gettin’ there when troy threw it to first.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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oh hell yeah
we needed that DP
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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I don't know about "dumb".
I’ll talke the 2 and won’t complain.
by Tackle Box on
Jul 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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have to make sure of too
getting too fancy will cost you more sometimes
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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god
just dont kill yourself pujols
i thought he was going to dive
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Jul 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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every time he goes after a foul ball like that my heart stops
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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come on welley
blow one by ‘em.
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Jul 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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oh man that was strike 3 blue!
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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these umps force pitchers to serve one up
by not calling corners
by ccthemovieman on
Jul 24, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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Think they get paid more by MLB
to induce more HRs that way?
by voltronchris on
Jul 24, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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no doubt about it that was a strike
how Z gets a K on a ball that almost hit a guy & Tadalion can’t get that obvious strike called is beyond me
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Jul 24, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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strike one to cameron
was the same as the ones hall got by with as balls, weren’t they?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Jul 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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pretty dang close
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
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Jul 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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it was more outside
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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now finish him
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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this ump is driving me crazy
make up your damn mind already
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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ugh
i’d almost like to see puppy kicker more than boggs.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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throwin alotta pitches here
he might only get through five.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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How often have you seen an ump not call a third strike
when he should have, and then disaster strikes? It sucks. Let’s hope it doesn’t happen here.
by ccthemovieman on
Jul 24, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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it has
in terms of welle’s pitch count
by NorseKaiser on
Jul 24, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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ok this is startin' to piss me off
finish ‘em!
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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should have gone with the high heat there
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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shit
fresh count and bases loaded
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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That's what not calling that third strike did
a dozen-plus extra pitches for Welley. I hate this friggin umps.
by ccthemovieman on
Jul 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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two straight
eight plus pitch at bats is what we needed against c.c.
by 916baller on
Jul 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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wellemeyer poor connand
we aren’t reverting to pre 2008 are we?
by azruavatar on
Jul 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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shit
now he can’t throw a strike.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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oh no
no walk plz
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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now tony needs to take 'em out.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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you dont see the trouble he's having locating
do you? somethin doesnt seem right.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jul 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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Yeah, he's frustrated
from not getting the calls he deserved. He needs to suck it up and finish it off
by voltronchris on
Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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He's being crafty
Ump’s calling strikes as balls, stands to reason…
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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come on Welley
get it together
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Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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back to the future
for welle and his control
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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How can you lose it that fast?
how is this possible?
by ccthemovieman on
Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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jesus.
this ump needs to get his walking papers.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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bad welle
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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welle looks whipped
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Jul 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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he'd make a fantastic closer
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
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I'm late to the party
Welly been ok? His pitch count looks decent, but he’s in a heap of trouble right now.
by effin fisk on
Jul 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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he's getting squeezed
he was good till this inning, now the ump doesn’t know whats going on
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by gdm426 on
Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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He was cruising
until this inning. 40 pitches here.
by liam on
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ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
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Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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Well he looked good early
but the lack of off speed pitches early was a warning sign that this might happen.
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
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What the hell, how does a guy just implode like that
and suddenly lose the strike zone? pathetic colonel.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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that was a gift
from ben
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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three straight walks
and four so far this inning…that is really bad
by 916baller on
Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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But we've all agreed
that two of them were complete BS
by voltronchris on
Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
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Coulda been worse
if he hadn’t mixed in the DP.
DAMN, ALL-STAR LUD!
by liam on
Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
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he just cant miss a bat
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Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
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he can't even put ben sheets away
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
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luddy
all that bad stuff, only one run
whew
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GloveWick saves the day
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Jul 24, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
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He was obvilously just trying to get to Sheets
The Izzy Philosophy of “gettin’ to my out”.
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Jul 24, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
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that was bad
pitch number 6 in the AB against Hall was a strike. Should have been strike 3. Pitch number 3 against Cameron was close enough to be a strike. And if the ump isn’t calling that outside pitch(like on number 6) he should give the pitcher that inside corner.
Grrrr.
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as long as it's the same for sheets...i'm fine with the strikezone...just keep it consistent....we'll see what happens this inning with that
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