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Sweet fancy moses...

... I am so sick of this.

by birdjam on Jul 22, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's like a bad dream...

... keeps getting worse and worse.

by birdjam on Jul 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're gonna win this one.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 22, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish I shared your optimism

I just don’t

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I no longer share my own optimism

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Rick

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 22, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a good at bat

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 22, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you expected more?

it’s after the 7th inning and the game is close – “good” Rick has left the building

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah.

I just live in the moment. Right now that moment is painful

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 22, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everynight

I go between hating and loving this team

by riotmute on Jul 22, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm staying in here

late to the party and all.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 22, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dear Adam Kennedy

you are not a home run hitter

STOP SWINGING LIKE THAT YOU DOUCHE

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Douches

may not appreciate the comparison to Adam Kennedy’s swing.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 22, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of strange

to use the LOOGY before bringing in K-Mac, who has few problems with lefties.

Suppose Fielder is not your common lefty-handed bat, though.

by liam on Jul 22, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't you read the bible

according to tlr?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 22, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have no beef with the move

you can’t take any chances with big veg

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

countdown until

villones arm falls off??? nice job though..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

very but

they are playing with fire due to the inability of diahreaa(flores)

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When he is set up to

(Facing only lefties)

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 22, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

D-Backs get out of jam...

... two on for Lee and Ramirez. both flew out. still 1-0 D-Backs.

by kindred on Jul 22, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

one pitch

one out

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 22, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh no

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 22, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Still fear the onset of ZOGery - Zero Out Guy ery - coming to your mound all too soon

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 22, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

omg!

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

are you shitting me?

for fucks sake

seriously

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can we get a

pitcher who can keep the fucking ball below the waist!!!!!!!!!

by chicagocardfan on Jul 22, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its contagious

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 22, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are we in Groundhog Day?

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by gocards62 on Jul 22, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to third place boys

It’s gonna be our home for a couple of months

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know...

.... the Astros may make a run with Wolf…

by birdjam on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not tonight

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by gocards62 on Jul 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!

at least you still have a sense of humor

good job!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

until Wolf straightens out the Astros?

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by gocards62 on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sad that the astros are making moves and we're content

doing nothing

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill DeWitts wallet is very content.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd seriously rather have him as an owner

that a guy who throws cash around like he stole it

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not me, he blatently pulled a Florida Marlins this year

and he fell into a decent team by complete accident.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont follow your logic

Dewitt has been part owner of the rangers. before he bought the Cards, tried to buy the reds from marge schott, but bud wouldnt let him. he made her sell it to her dead husbands business partner

then with this current group, he was finally able to buy the Cards.

what free agents would you have had the Cards get this past off season? it was a down year for illegitimately good free agents

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wolf is their savior

they’ll be in first place in no time at all

by chuckb on Jul 23, 2008 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya

probably

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now you know why TLR

went as long as he did with Loshe. This is ridiculous. How long is management going to stick with these loser relievers?

by ccthemovieman on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

loser relievers

49 appearences for a rookie..a good one at that

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ZOGS and more ZOGS

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

uh Joe

just so you know, that curve was a strike

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

have no fear, murderer's row is coming.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ray charles

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing to sell, really...

... better just hope this straightens itself out quickly. season ain’t over in July.

by kindred on Jul 22, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this isn't straightening itself out...

every game is a carbon copy of the one before…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 22, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sell him then...

this is team is going nowhere fast with the abyss behind the right field wall…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i really wish Gibby was still pitching

hall wouldn’t dare pull that shit with him on the mound

pathetic

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

no one on this team with the balls to throw one in an ear though

(except for Izzy, but it’d be unintentional)

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm dead against throwing at a dude head

except when shit like that is pulled

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rib cage would do

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

Bill Hall just reeks of ‘punk-ass’

He’s still only hitting like .215 right?

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hall and weeks

were both hitting less than .200 against rh pitching before this series. wtf/

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why couldn't they keep hitting like Hall & Oates

not early 80s Hall & Oates though, those guys could hammer out the hits then

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both of their last hits were major mistakes, up in the zone

you would think that with all of the free swingers on the MIL club they could get more outs, especially to guys like Weeks & Hall, with pitches in the dirt…the Cards just havent figured t out yet

by buzzburton33 on Jul 22, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 slap hitters

this game is over

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PH-Iz2-Schu

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

time to wake up offense

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 22, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Radio about a month behind gameday. Makes the agony all the worse. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 22, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As I recall...

... we were happier a month ago, weren’t we?

by birdjam on Jul 22, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh

not much in the lineup to worry about – we’re past the third inning

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rubberarm Torres again

let’s light him up

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by gocards62 on Jul 22, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is what happens

when you don’t have faith in anyone in a bullpen

by FL Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Miles

the best PH option off the bench? I can’t watch this.

by azruavatar on Jul 22, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is Mather at the game?

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by gocards62 on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with 13 pitchers

he is damn near the ONLY option off the bench

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now

we can’t move duncan, and will have to find a place for barton soon

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 22, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that DL move stinks

“well, let’s come up with a good reason why we can’t trade Duncan”

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Mo is smart

he’ll over Lohse and extension asap, and if he turns it down, you trade him

if you let him walk for nothing, it’ll be a terrible move

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*offer

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does that mean Skip is likely to go too?

or not now that Colby is hurt?

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by gocards62 on Jul 22, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joey Bombs

we need you now more than ever to live up to that nick name

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice strike there, Blue

Looked a wee low to me.

by liam on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

at cfc

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can't beat Suppan with our best pitcher

How do you expect us to beat Sheets and Sabathia with Looper and Wellemeyer?

Even if we outplay them early, we’ll choke late.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

you think this team is that predictable this year?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 22, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't

But I’ll bet you ten internet dollars that this losing streak reaches at least four

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure

I’ll bet that

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 22, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

brews will probably be in 1st

after this series

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 22, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure I'm beating a dead horse (bug I just logged in)

but how the heck can we have 13 relievers at the moment and TLR not trust one of them in the 8th?????

http://www.theticketguys.com

by felone on Jul 22, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol i wouldn't either.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true but lohse was obviously done – KMac should’ve been in the 8th – even though he gave up the bomb – at least he wouldn’t have faced Bill (pose-off) Hall

http://www.theticketguys.com

by felone on Jul 22, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No he wasn't

he wasn’t obviously done. And, I’d still trust him over the crap we’ve got out in the pen right now.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about instead

they don’t feed him high fastballs that he can jack out of the park?

by Tackle Box on Jul 22, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crapola.

We should’ve won that one.

by liam on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this season is nothing but shoulda's

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how many times this season have we said that?

seams like at least twice a week

this is getting so freaking old

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and last nite too

2 straight come from behind wins against the home team is out of the question f the team is going to contend. the crew is fired up because management is going for it. cards are sit and wait, and maybe it is beginning to show.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 22, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe that

to some extent, I think this is getting to be a mental block for the Birds – and not just the bullpen sucking – if they shored up the pen, would the hitters have more confidence late in games?

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about the starters

i bet lohse feels great about the outcome

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by sportsman on Jul 22, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, that too

but Lohse isn’t completely off the hook tonight either – sure, probably was left in too long – but his mental concentration has to be better – he was unhittable tonight but still allowed the big inning

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Sit and wait"

I thought that was the plan all along?

by Tackle Box on Jul 22, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This fucking sucks

I hate every last person in that bullpen, even you right now KMac

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Awful awful awful loss

Two nights in a row. We should be on a 9-game winning streak right now.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now that I've settled down

I could see us winning the next two.

Here’s some Farmer’s Almanac style reasoning:

Looper’s had starts where he went fewer than four innings three times this year, including his last start. In the starts after those two previous short starts, he had a starts where he went 7 shutout innings (HOU) and 7 innings of 2-run ball (CHC). So it wouldn’t be a shocker if Looper came out as a stopper for us tomorrow.

Sabathia, meanwhile, has thrown complete games in his last two starts. The last time he pitched back-to-back CGs was last season. The start following was against the Braves, when he allowed 5 runs over 8 1/3. We oughta be able to score some runs off Sabathia in any case, Glaus has good history against him.

Tackle Box knows that we’ve always had success against Sheets for whatever reason and Wellemeyer appeared to’ve found his slider as his last start went on. If he can come out Thursday with an effective slider on hand and we get it done tomorrow, a split of this series isn’t out of the question.

Lot of ifs and iffy reasoning, sure, but these Cardinals have surprised us more than once this year.

Heck, if we split this series and the Snakes keep owning the Cubs, we’ll be in a tie for the division lead by the time the Cards catch their flight to Flushing.

by liam on Jul 23, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hall would have a hell of a career if he played at Busch

all the time…he is a HR machine here. In fact he hit the first HR here.

by KYCards on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

after looper gets shelled tomorrow...

it’ll take the hand of god to turn this shit around…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 22, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, guys - it's been fun!

Let’s do it again tomorrow!

Dammit.

by birdjam on Jul 22, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Step right up! Who wants 'um? Lohse, Miles, Shu, anyone not named Pujols and Molina.

No reasonable offer refused. . . . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 22, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

absolutely pathetic

I know it wouldn’t solve anything – so you can save the fire-bombing me – but is it time yet to just wholesale the entire bullpen to Memphis?

ok, keep KMac and Springer – ship everyone else to Memphis – bring up the Memphis bullpen, see what they can do

this is getting unacceptable – this is not major league level performance

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

to sum up this series so far i ref. my name and the movie MJL2

i can’t believe I gave up a hr to that punch and judy hitter.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im loggin in

see ya there?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 22, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team HAS to be sellers

If Mo lets Lohse walk at the end of the year, he should lose his job.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

It’s two frickin’ games.

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 22, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually it's 4

we have our worst 2 pitchers going the next 2 nights against last years cy young winner in the AL and the NL Starter of the all star game this year

it’s 4 losses to a team we had to atleast split with

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and besides, my point stands, if Mo can't resign Lohse he has to trade him

if you let a chip that valuable walk at the end of the year, you hurt the organization

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does it really matter?

this pen will not allow this team to win enough games over the next 2 months to make the playoffs, it’s simply not happening…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 22, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldnt bet against that

but that sure is optimism the way this bullpen is performing lately

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the two biggest games of the year

And we did this:

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.....

The Cardinals have been coming back all year. Did all our opponents choke, or did we just make enough plays to win some of those games?

Yes, the last two games are VERY disappointing, but they are just two games. We are what, 2 games out right now? A game behind Milwaukee? Quit panicking.

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh now that's just salt in the wound

They clinched the season series in July? Wow.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, no

they didn’t. I was wrong. 3 games up in it now, though.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I was in grade school

we had these uneven bars that got higher and higher on our play ground. One time, I climbed up to the top one and was swinging from my hands maybe 10-12 feet off the ground. I decided to swing out and land on my feet. Instead, I landed flat on my back. I couldn’t breathe for about 3 minutes just sitting there hyperventilating. (My friends ran to get the playground watcher and told her I was dying.)

I think that tonight’s loss feels something like that.

by azruavatar on Jul 22, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

u break both arms?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, good analogy - all the way up to the part where you arose. . ..Think Cards need the ambulance that you missed.

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 22, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think a lot of losses lately feel like that

Hell, I am almost ready for the debut of Motte. He can’t do any worse than most of the bullpen, even if he does only have one real pitch.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One time my little brother was having a birthday party

I was playing basketball in the driveway with all his friends, and since I had already gone through puberty and had a growth spurt I was dominating the boards. One kid had enough when I reached over him and turned around and punched me. Thing is, his arm level was right at my nuts. Full-forced 9-year-old punch directly to the gonads. That’s what tonight’s loss feels like to me.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK so what about

moving wagonmaker to the pen to close when he comes back? he’s gotta be better than anything we can trade for right? and better than anything current?

by FL Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's better in the rotation

no need moving him back and forth.

Just put him in the rotation, let him pitch every 5 days and get him geared up for 2009.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When he gets back he'll be closing

He’ll just be coming in in the first inning

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck

Just…fuck.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on Jul 22, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack Clark needs to lay off the spray tan.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

no kidding i thought the color on my tv was off

http://www.theticketguys.com

by felone on Jul 22, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dan and al look rather tan

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for a team that has over achieved all yr

the board seems to lose sight of that quick. I hate to see em lose heartbreakers, but the seasons not over and they are still not sellers..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We're only 7 pitchers away

From having a decent bullpen. Send all of these asshats to the glue factory, because they are the most worthless sonsabitches I’ve ever seen wear major league uniforms.

How the hell could a pen make me yearn for Pedro effing Borbon.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 22, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Post of the night

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

b/c you don't remember

Pedro Borbon very well

Man, I hope the stores in St. Louis lock up the guns and knives. Ban on gun and knife sales in the greater St. Louis area!!

by chuckb on Jul 23, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewers have to be proud of their front office

Doug Melvyn has gone for it and made deals designed to put the Brewers over the hump – ala Jockety before the cheap owners castrated him. Melvyn actually built a strong team in Texas and look how bad they’ve been since he was fired. Our management really doesn’t care whether we win this year as long as we have a competitive cheap team in ‘09. Get used to it Cards fans – we will become the Minnesota of the NL. A nice team that develops talent for other teams to win championships with.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jul 22, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

and it has to affect the players

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 22, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 billion kajillion zitrillion

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhh....really clark?

First off it’s Doug Melvin, not Melvyn.

Second: This has nothing to do with management, take off the tinfoil cap. The Brewers gave up a top prospect to get a half a year rental, us not making that trade had NOTHING to do with money. Our management did not want to give up Colby Rasmus for half a year of CC Sabathia.

Also, the Brewers are winning right now, not because of making big money splashes , but because they’ve developed so many good young players within their own organization.

You have no fucking clue what you’re talkng about.;

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

although slightly more toned down :)

I will just say that money has nothing to do with this season – it’s about building organizational depth and contending for much of the ‘10s

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

but that doesn’t mean it has no effect on the organization sense of urgency about winning every game it you know they don’t “count” until next year.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for your constructive mature comment

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jul 22, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ridiculous

Jocketty got us in the mess we’re in, and we’re climbing out of it a whole hell of a lot faster than anyone could’ve expected.

The Brewers aren’t good because their owners aren’t cheap, they’re good because they patiently built a great team with adeep farm

by liam on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They didn't develop

Sabathia, Durham, Torres or Suppan. Those were smart veteran acquisitions to complement a good farm system. Do you think we would acquire that kind of veteran to fuel a pennant run today?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jul 22, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?

The reason they could acquire those 2 of those players is because they’ve developed a very good farm system which they could trade from. Torres is not a good pitcher and will not last as a closer.

As for Suppan, if you think his was a smart signing, then you are clueless and I will thank god you aren’t the Cardinals GM. That was an awful contract.

Management is doing the right thing by not tying up a ton of money in mediocre players, and not trading away our future for half a year rentals.

I understand you are angry about this loss, I am too, but don’t be stupid.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Because we neglected the farm system for so long under Jocketty’s lead. It’s flat-out stupid to say the ownership group “castrated” Jocketty by putting more of an effort to develop talent and build a deep, quality farm system.

And Durham is hardly a big piece of their team, considering he was added a few days ago for better offense on the bench.

by liam on Jul 22, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If me and Liam actually agree on something

you know it’s true.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 22, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+111453125456548

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 winnable games, 2 horrible losses

say what you will about the 8th, old arm or not, Springer should have pitched right there after they cut it to 1 run, he gave you the best chance in that situation…they needed a win worse tonight than to save Russ for tomorrow or the next day…then if Russ ave up the tying run at least you lost with your best chance to win

by buzzburton33 on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

half the people on here are going batshit insane

do you know how much of the season is left?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Acting like a bunch of little kids.

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 22, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you have to admit

these two losses were horrible punches to the gut – and magnified one of the (has been all season) glaring weaknesses of this team

overreacting? maybe. but when you can pretty much call what’s going to happen two innings prior to it actually taking place…problem

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to me

the two games were so close that it proves that these teams are evenly matched. so the next series we could win

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody called anything.....

And if they did, they were lucky.

What I saw was Lohse absolutely dominating. I’d have probably left him in too. If not for a couple of WEAK hits, the game is never tied up. Braun hitting that squib to 3rd? Fielder going the other way and placing the ball between Glaus and Iz? Heck, even the HR in the 9th was a pitch off the plate.

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok - you're reading it a bit literally

I don’t disagree there may have been bad bounces – but this is not a new problem to have the bullpen choking in a crucial situation

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

People are overreacting

but cmon? You can not be saying that someone could not see this happening the way this bullpen has been pitching.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol sometimes bad things happen to bad bullpens

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like the piss and moan... the world is ending stuff either

but I also don’t like it when people try to act like there is nothing wrong with the bullpen. It is overworked, but that doesn’t mean that it doesnt suck

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah I was agreeing with you.

Whoever says this isn’t a bad bullpen needs to take off the Ron Santos glasses.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, I was just venting

you will have the extremes on here. I just dont care for the” acting like children” BS

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Jul 23, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is a good "back to earth" post

take two of three from the Cubs in 3 weeks and everyone will be singing a different tune

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, but

the teams we are competing with are not the same as they were in the first half (they are better), and we are worse w/o aw etc

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 22, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take 2 of 3 from the Cubs

what makes you think a team with zero bullpen will be within enough games to have 2 of 3 matter?

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the next week

will probably tell the season

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they've had zero bullpen all year

and after tonight could still be (hopefully) within two games of first place in the division

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bull

They have not had zero bullpen all year.

The bullpen has only been this bad the last two months. Perhaps we are all forgetting that the offense has had late game heroics to pull this bullpen out of an even worse fate.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

and they are an overworked pen..when some starters go 5 that hurts..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is true

too – the starters have lost their mojo in July

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

but something has to be done about the pen though

by FL Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right . . . it is just one game, but

a pattern has developed – and there is no sign that the pattern will reverse. The bullpen loses games consistently and it sucks the joy out of the position players.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and that will happen

it is a sports blog for goodness sake, who said we have to act rationally?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ow...

i thought we had that one…

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

our bullpen

started to get screwed when we didn’t want pay for a real starter and converted some of the decent relievers into starters.

by hghnad on Jul 22, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

please name said starter

seriously, please

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

personally i thought welly. He was coming off an injury and showed good potential as a reliever, not really as a start. On and off this year but i thoughted hed do well as a reliever

by hghnad on Jul 22, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welley's did good last year

and was great before he got hurt.

what i want to know is what free agent starter do you think the Cards didn’t want to spend the cash on to sign?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well this would bite me in the ass. Gil would have been okay.

by hghnad on Jul 22, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was 2 years ago

and 55 M for Gil Meche?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 years ago. But it would have probably been a 3 yr contract. I know it sounds high. but everything fa they go for…its that same excuse….its to high. But i don’t see contracts coming down anytime soon

by hghnad on Jul 22, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he signed a 5 yr 55 M contract with KC

I just dont think he would have signed a 3 Yr one with the Cards

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

u guys are right. But im not trying to justify who we should have push for or gotten, but it seemed to me that our bulllpen did very well, until they started messing with it to find internal options for starters .

by hghnad on Jul 22, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion

neither Looper or Welley were much of a help to the bullpen. Looper just wasn’t that effective down the stretch in 2006 and Welley…well getting released by the Royals because you couldn’t stick in the bullpen is a sign. Welley never did click until he went into the rotation last year.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

our pen started going down hill once the starters started getting hurt

once Wagonmaker went down, things really went to hell in a hand basket.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

amazing how that happens, isnt it?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will admit that my preception is going to be way different then yours and i tell you why. Im in pennsylvania, and live way in east bumble nowhere. I don’t have tv, cable, satellite and until 3 months ago i finally got dsl at home lol. I goto bars to watch most cardinals that i know are on and have gone to pittsburg twice to see them play the cards. From the little i do get to watch, probably was on wellys good days. And i also thought that WW would have been a good replacement for izzy. I don’t now. But at the time i did. Thats why i like it here becuase u guys actually kinda expand or contrast my thoughts on things i don’t get to see or hear about.

by hghnad on Jul 22, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i envy you a bit

well, past you. Maybe getting rid of cable and internet for a few months will keep this team from giving me an ulcer

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha. think youre the first to say you envy me. Im tired of penn state this and philly that here. Its what everyone talks about. I’ve like that cardinals since 87 when they lost to the twins and willy mcgee made that last out. A friend of mine was a cardinals fan and knew a lot about baseball in general and introduced me to the cardinals and i’ve tried to follow them ever since. And yes i do get ulcers from the Cardinals. I just don’t get them till the next day when i read espn lol.

by hghnad on Jul 22, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you live

anywhere close to where Josh Kinney and Brian Stavisky grew up, by any chance?

by liam on Jul 23, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

Kinney i believe is way up north in pa. In closer to the md border. Besides nothing good comes out of where i live. It’s like a big black hole of rednecks lol

by hghnad on Jul 23, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the $55 million dollar man KC signed the winter of 2006?

you were talking about LAST winter

what pitcher from last winter should they have signed?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aj burnett

but they made a play for him. the contract the birds offered was what, like 2-5 million less overall than what toronto offered. bet he wishes he were in st louis right now.

by lopey986 on Jul 23, 2008 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but he wasn't last offseason either

He signed with Toronto after the 2005 season

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blooper, Welly come to mind. Then you have to move young starters to relief - K-Mac, Garcia, Boggs, Parisi and Memphis cast of 1000s

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 22, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

-1

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who even feels like putting themselves through this again tomorrow?

i mean, i’m sure i will, but at least with looper going the bullpen will probably never get the chance to piss one away…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Geez, maybe that sweep of the Pods -

wasn’t as impressive as it seemed.

Come to think of it, we almost lost all those games. They played us tough (but stupid).

by Urban Pawnee on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we needed that sweep

some tough games coming up

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hold the phones,

per “HOF” manager there are no bullpen issues. nothing to see here.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jul 22, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tony is going off for asking about the bullpen!

“it isn’t the bullpens fault, we need to score more” “the bullpen didn’t lose these games”

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damnit! i wish i could see that

damn black out isnt over till 11pm est

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was pissed

I’m guessing a pretty nasty lockerroom talk coming up.

Hopefully that jolts the bats awake.

by liam on Jul 22, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this above or below levels of delusion compared to Hitler

Screaming that the war was still winnable when the Soviets were on the doorstep of Berlin?

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 22, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking more along the lines

of the Iraqi General claiming that there was no war in a press conference when the building was getting shelled.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone photoshop LaRussa's head onto this

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 22, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Preferably the picture after the World Series

Where he had that towel wrapped around his head

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

excellent

what about a cartoon text balloon?

“There is nothing wrong with the bullpen.”

heh

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in all fairness to Tony

after he blew up at the reporters he did kind of back off at the end. I think he knew he was going overboard

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now if only it had a

“or a healthy Chris Duncan” tab too

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man everyone's making Hardcore work tonight

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He kinda looks insane with that grin

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is beyond awesome.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 22, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has to

if he throws them under the bus – the mental block will only get worse

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 22, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because tony wants a bat

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if you have a 3 run lead in the 7th...you should be able to win the game....i disagree with Tony....

if you have a bullpen, you win the game…..we had a 3 run lead in the 7th…you win with a good bullpen

by hockeyno93 on Jul 22, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Why does it matter whether we lead 3-1 and blow it or lead 11-9 and blow it.? The bullpen could’nt be trusted to protect a lead no matter how many runs our offense scores.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jul 22, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So TLR blames the offense in his post game comments

It’s their fault. The bullpen is wonderful. Why do you non-geniuses continue to harp on the bullpen?

Ridiculous. The emperor has no clothes.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jul 22, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Which is like Dick Vermeil blaming the 2003 Chiefs O

Whenever their D would give up 35 points.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 22, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was plenty of blame to go around tonight

The offense sucked after the 3rd inning tonight, something we see far too often. K-Mac gave up a HR. Plenty of blame to go around fellas.

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too depressed to check it out, but I think Cards managed one ball out of the infield the last two innings. Shu's 27th out.

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 22, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even if we had a good bullpen Lohse probably stays out for the 8th

He might get pulled IN the 8th, but not until he’d given up a coupla hits

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

logging in for the first time all day. . .

can someone explain to me why bill hall needs to be drilled tommorrow?

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tomorrow we clear the benches

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that and he looked into the Cards dugout tonight

thats bush league

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 22, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing as McClung tried to hit

Pujols twice last night because of what happened last year and we did nothing, I doubt we see any retaliation.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When is the last time

this team threw at someone? Tony just doesn’t play that game

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 22, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

astros

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 22, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is stupid

I chalked it up to people just blowing off steam at the time but how many Cards’ hitters do the exact same thing when they hit a homer - including #5. All of them do. He did nothing that nobody else does when they homer and the idea that he should be beaned just for beating us 2 days in a row is sour grapes. A lot of people on this board need to grow up - not saying you, Hardcore. You’re probably just the messenger here but a lot of people here need to grow up. It’s 2 bad losses—yes, but I’m not going to go hang myself. The season isn’t