Game 101 Open Thread -- July 21, 2008
by chuckb on Jul 21, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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PrintThe Brewers began the year as the only other team in the majors batting the pitcher 8th but have since changed their minds, moving Jason Kendall and his sterling 76 OPS+ to the 8 hole and the pitcher back to the bottom. The team is right behind the Cards offensively – averaging 4.73 runs per game to the Cards 4.78. They’ve been a little better at home on offense while the Cards have been much better on the road. I guess we should expect more offense if this were being played in Miller Park, huh?
Like the Cards, the Brewers have had some troubles on the mound. Presently, they’re again just behind the Cards, yielding 4.46 runs per game to the Cards 4.45. Their bullpen ERA is 4.20, just ahead of the Cards’ 4.21 which put the two teams at 10th and 11th in the NL, respectively. The Brewers Defensive Efficiency Ratio is .697 to the Cards’ .698. They’re 1 game behind in the standings (even in the loss column) and their Pythagorean record is 51-47 to the Cards’ 53-47 – again, even in the loss column. Both teams are exactly 4 games better than their Pythagorean records say they should be. Sounds like two extremely evenly matched teams.
Historically, this has been a team that has struggled away from home but their 24-26 record so far this year is 4th best in the NL. The Cards are 30-21 at home (and are, incidentally 27-22 – best in the NL on the road).
Tonight’s starter for the Brew Crew is Seth McClung – a guy who’s become one of two pawns in the Brewers' Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde experiment. They are platooning starting pitchers -- starting Dave Bush at home and McClung on the road. Bush has been awful on the road and solid at home while the reverse is true for McClung. This experiment is based, partly, on McClung's 40 whole innings in Milwaukee and 35.2 innings on the road. Uhhh...small sample size anyone? Maybe it's based more on Bush's splits who, at least, has a pretty sizable home/road split for his career -- involving 390 and 345 innings, respectively.
McClung does walk too many and has given up too many homers but has struck out 7.7 per 9 IP. His GB% of 40.2% is low and very similar to his career numbers. If it’s warm tonight, the Cards could get some balls in the seats. Tomorrow it’ll be Suppan and then their big boys, Sabathia and Sheets. And, in case you missed it, the Brewers have a new man at the keystone to go along w/ their new ace as they added Ray Durham yesterday. Let’s win this one, boys. The pitching matchups only get tougher from here.
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P.S. There is, apparently, no picture of Seth McClung on file -- thus, the X. I mean this as no intentional slight towards Mr. McClung and will take full responsibility should this insult lead to a Brewers' wipeout of the Cards tonight. Please Cards and (gulp!) Mr. Pineiro! Please bail me out!!!!
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Why
did you white out the picture (sarcasim)
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineups per Gameday
MIL
Weeks 2B
Hardy SS
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
Hart RF
Hall 3B
Cameron CF
Kendall C
McClung P
STL
Schumaker RF
Miles 2B
Pujols 1B
Ankiel CF
Glaus 3B
Duncan LF
Molina C
Pineiro P
Izturis SS
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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yup
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
When's the last time you saw him?
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I used to live in WV
Charleson, to be exact. I wouldnt have figured there to be much ranch land in WV
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4th Cousin
Hey, how are you Seths cousin? I know him very well.
anyone know if
The Cubs game will be on WGN tonight?
Doesn't appear that way
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good evening
biggest series of the year. let’s do it!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
Just seen on FSMW feed...
Ryan Braun is the #1 Cardinals killer this year at .485. Let’s pitch to him with nobody on 3 times tonight and that’s it!
Why is it that I hate every team we play in the Central this year
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
Usually
I can love playing the likes of the Reds, Brewers, and Pirates,
But man, its seems like I have angst everytime we play someone from our division.
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
doubtful
i haven’t seen her to a fly over state monday night game in a while
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got a question for you guys
Are Tom and Matt Pagnozzi related?
I think its his nephew
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
slightly OT
Tommy Herr’s son plays for the Reds’ AAA team in Louisville… an infielder, but shorter and heavier than dad, and not as talented.
he was
a springfield card a couple years ago
"I wouldn’t have seen it if I hadn’t believed it.’" ~Shannon
whose doing the game on ESPN?
i figure it’s steve phillips so i didn’t even bother to look.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
or orel (sp?)
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
and orel
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
him along with hershiser & oneil
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can't stand any of 'em
thank god i can still have my dan and al in HD
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
that’s so much better
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yuck
Not pretty Schu
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dude is fast
seriously
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Let Iz2 take care of him
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or get him to ground out
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
someone want to do a play by play for the first two innings
it would be appreciated
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions
sure,
my dad always told me i had the perfect face for radio
big prince is down 0-2
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Sure...
First pitch flyout by Weeks. Double to left by Hardy. Ground out to short by Braun. Fielder at 1-2 right now.
3 yadis = 2 princes?
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
huh
no. I dont care if prince fat ass is veggan he is still huge
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
just shows
that heredity is just as much or more apt to determine the body type of someone
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
if you, want to call me baby
just go ahead now
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No People in the Seats!
I know it’s an early start and all…but c’mon St. Louis. Show up early after the walk-off grand salami by GRIT yesterday.
it's 120 degrees outside
cut em a little slack
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im in houston and I teed off at 1:30 today
they should be in the seats – but no sports franchise is worse about that than our rockets.
well down in HTown dont you get a breeze off the gulf?
i’m also curious, do you have the humidity that the STL has? i always thought texas had more of a dry heat humidity wise
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houston is 95-100 and 100% humidity from may to september
no theres no breeze. we’re 40 miles from the gulf and theres so much damn concrete everywhere that it fries the air if there is.
Reason #234893475
I would never live in Houston
"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck
2-2 to big prince
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strike that horse turd out
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
not a lot of players
who dress like slobs
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
CB Buckner
Is horrible. Good calls on Fielder there…they were balls…but overall…horrible. (sorry for the ellipses).
ball 3 was clearly a ball
it was on the white of the RH batters box
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Got through Braun and Fielder once
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big price grounds out to Mini me
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run prince run
i think 5 grits=one fielder
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions
good start!
is mcclung afraid of skippy for some reason?
Skippy got a 5 pitch walk Juan
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Mini Me K's on a check swing
Albert is up
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that def wasnt a grand slam swing
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Miles
you used up your luck in your last at bat. so now it’s time for a K
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
go APu!!!!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
you dont piss off albert
you wont like him when he’s angry
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very high and tight
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
right at his face
he had to back away
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some chin music for Albert
he fouled the next one off, 1-1
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and even if he gets away with it here
by the third time AP’s up he might have a big surprise waiting for him….
why are we giving constant updates
can’t everyone see the game?
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
Does Ned yost
really want to play that game again
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
2009
he’s being forced out
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no
it’s been planned for awhile. he wants to retire.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
thats not really true
he doesn’t want to quit. NBC jumped the gun trying to lock up conan & promised him Jay’s gig.
i dont really thing he’ll leave, but we’ll see. he does not want to quit, but NBC will own Conan $40 Million if Jay stays.
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conan o brian
this is like year old news peole
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I watch as little TV as possible
It’s great, I’m always behind when people are talking about celebrities.
Albert hits a slow roller to SS
force at 2nd, Albert was safe at 1st
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way to go Ank!
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
mcclung looks wild tonight...
i hope we can take advantage
Ank tagged that one
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no
but i’m now recording the encore on ESPN2 just to see her.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
i know what i’m watchin after the game.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You said it man
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Rick singles to center
Albert to second
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McClung looks ripe for a beating
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
booyah santa
2 run double off the center field wall
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Yeah Glaus!!
You’re the boss!!
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Glaus hits a double
2-0 good guys
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you?
or the chi sox hack?
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ankiel just about runs over Pujols who practically stops halfway down the third base line. What is he (Albert) thinking?
Glaus is heating up big time
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
ok Duncan
show us you should be in the lineup today. cuz I’m clueless about that
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
match-ups
dunc is favored over luddy today
plus you want luddy for the next three pitchers the brew crew is going to throw at us
hahahaha
nice pitch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
actually
Kendall looked like he was in slow motion trying to catch that one
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
why is he not playing?!!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
time for ny first Franklin
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully that will help my spelling
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
DUNK gournds out to 2nd
he sucks
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headache?
long night?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
how would that go?
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nepotism?
what, is his name michael bradley now?
i’m sure no one gets that one too
that's not fucking true
and as always it’s still a stupid fucking argument.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
everybody on this board
is so reactive. I’d hate to play for a lot of these people….if I have one off-day BAM I’m DFA’d.
No
but he has been consistently bad for so long now, that their is no justification for him to remain on this roster
boo cubs, hooray beer
and their is even less justification for him getting starts over someone with Ludwick's numbers
boo cubs, hooray beer
I agree with you
that Ludwick should be playing over Duncan. But I don’t think the only reason he has a job is because of Dave. I’d like to see Duncan traded, but as long as he’s on the ML roster he’s going to play occasionally.
Maybe Ludwick could use a day off? TLR spells his starters every so often. Plus it’s hot as hell right now, if you hadn’t noticed…..
I just think you can't count out nepotism as a factor for him being on the roster
not with as close as dave duncan and tony la russa are. Also, if you recall Dave Duncan’s reaction when Chris was sent to Memphis, and now Mozeliak is unwilling to send him back down, further makes me believe that it atleast plays a small part
boo cubs, hooray beer
what do you mean, I can't count it out?
He came back up cause Pujols got hurt like a week after he got sent down.
Do you have any actual evidence or are you just going to allege things?
They had already decided to bring him back up before Pujols got hurt
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I realize that's why he came back up
but why hasn’t he been sent back down then now that Pujols is healthy? He isn’t producing at a much better clip than last time he got sent down.
boo cubs, hooray beer
you got any better options?
and don’t say joe mather.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Mather is a better play, in my opinion, but i'll give way to TLR on that because I know he wants a lefty bat
but the fact remains, Duncan should not get starts over Ludwick
boo cubs, hooray beer
you're right that duncan shouldn't play over ludwick
but ludwick has become pretty much an everyday player. maybe it’s a day off.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
2-2 to Mr Sunglasses at night
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let me guess
Mike Cameron
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there an echo in here
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
echo
echo
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Great snag Skip!
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awesome cattch skippy!!!!
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
Skippy with a heck of a catch in the right field corner
that sun is BR U TAL out there
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schu!
I got a good feeling about tonight. Gotta get this series off to a good start.
Mr Bonds does not play right either
just sayin :-)
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Thats funny
because he does not run after it either considering NOBODY wants him
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Morning, VEB nation. 6:30 in the am, only slightly hung over and great way to start the day. Go Birds!
Only 23 more outs
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some one just singled to left
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I hope we get such a lead
that we don;t have to see Izzy tonight.
Doubt we'd see him anyways
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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you can't have a big enough lead with on the Brew Crew
they can mash
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i would consider braun and pujols close to a wash
obviously albert is superior in every facet, but they’re close
Glaus doing it with the leather too
Best defense in baseball :)
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holy smokes!
man am i glad we got Troy
hot shot to 3rd, he snags it & doubles off the runner at 1st
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not looking forward to that...
i live in SF and was at the giants-brewers game friday night. CC was utterly dominant. (though fortunately our lineup is…well…just a bit better than SF’s)
Yadda hits a deep fly to left center
1 out
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that guy Juan asked for it
so i’m trying to help a brother out
so yes
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Can you use MLB gameday or ESPN gamecast?
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Joel singles to right
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Who said Pineiro couldn't hit
Nice line drive
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Hit-and-run
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or the bass player for ZZ Top
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is ZZ Top really that old?
the 80’s were not that long ago were they?
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not really.
i just meant by the LOOK of it. believe me, there’s some zz on my ipod.
e'rebuilding mang
careful young man
be very very careful
aren’t you like 22?
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heck yes
and i’m only 30
you suck
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I think they started in the late 70s
to be fair
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
IZ2 gounds to the pitcher on a hit & run
Joel at 2nd, 2 out
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Good to see Birds agressive. This team IS fun, no?
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haha
Pinero was looking for home on that one XD
Nice D over there Fielder
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damn
really? must’ve been really hungry.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a meat ball
and prince is a veggie only eater
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by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Skippy hits a sharp gounder to Prince
he puts it into right, but Joel has to stop at 3rd
1st & 3rd, two out. Mini Me at the plate
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yeah,
but there’s no EA.
and with Steve & Orel in the booth with Dan, the WWL is unwatchable
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That's true
Hrabosky is pretty bad at times, but he’s better than Steve Phillips.
boo cubs, hooray beer
+1
that’s why i’m on FSN. monday nights need more EA
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
probably can
only watch on FSN in stl
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
nope
ESPN gets to go H2H 3 times a year. this is the second time.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Mini Me weakly grounds out to Prince
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we'll forgive him for that one
after yesterday
McClung - 41 pitches
Great strategy to wear him out and get to Brew Crew’s pen
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especially in a four game series
it would be nice to chase their starter early and work their pen over in the first game….
Kendall-McClung-Weeks due up
Let’s go 1-2-3 Pineiro, eh?
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Joel isn't missing by much tonight
that looked really good
slow roller to 3rd, 1 out
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tapper back to the mound by mcclung
2 outs
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Damn ESPN international has two feeds - one this game, the other the triathalon in South Africa. Guess which one airs in Thailand?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
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who would want to watch a triathalon in south africa?
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if
Carp and Waino are able to return to the rotation before the end of the season, Looper, Pineiro, and Welly will be fighting for the 4 & 5 slots. I’m thinking Welly should move to the pen (closing?) and Pineiro (#4) and Loop (#5) should get the rotation slots….thoughts?
especially
if he has stamina issues….although Loop did too, in 2007, but he seems to be mostly OK so far this year….
Thank you eveyone for the play by play
it was really appreciated but i have to run now
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by Where is that Juan guy on Jul 21, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
your welcome
peace
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Anybody else see this?
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funniest part of that article
Cubs drafted a guy named Chris Carpenter in the 3rd round
boo cubs, hooray beer
Doesn't seem like a really big deal to be honest
They aren’t the Patriots or anything
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yeah i know
i was talking out of my ass.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
burn them at the stake!
now that’s talking out your arse
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Excellent
Braun comes up with nobody on in the next inning, that’s always good
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bled Cardinal pink!
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yeah
I was at that game, it angered me greatly
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
especially considering
he’s hitting .650 against the Cards this season
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too late
Simpsons did it!
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well at least ump is consistant
ball 2 looked like strike 3 to me
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i'm pretty sure that was a hanging curve
it looked like a good pitch, but then again, i’m setting in a lay-z-boy in ohio.
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McClung has brushed back Pujols a couple times now
not that I think he meant to right there.
Didn’t we have a bean war with them last year?
boo cubs, hooray beer
Albert Pujols
He can do everything
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That wouldn't be one
The count was full when he took ball 4
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deal Albert
you are not Lou Brock
please take care of your legs
Sincerely,
VEB
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the sox have manny being manny
we have albert being albert
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Ank swings at one over his head
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I saw the River Bandits play on Saturday
got to see Wallace and Kozma play. Kozma was not having a very good day both defensively and offensively, but Wallace made two great plays at third, although he was too big to get to one that a lot of guys would’ve got to. one of the great plays was a falling into the bleachers catch, and the other he stopped one smoked down the third base line (the one he missed was towards Kozma at shortstop). he was hitting a lot of deep pop fouls to the opposite field. as a team, they got blown out 14-3 by some team called the Wizards. one guy who’s name is escaping me now (starts with a Ph) hit a blast out of the far wall in left center.
couple of funny things: they had two hitters that were in the lineup back to back, called Pupo and Peoples. put them together and I think you get Pujols, heh. also, there was a dizzy bat race where one of the guys ran into the wall and hurt his arm and made a kid cry (the kid was all right though). and the team enters through a patch of corn in left field corner, like Field of Dreams. pretty fun place to see a minor league game.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
The Wizards
are from Fort Wayne, IN. Was the batter Tommy Pham? I love that name!
that's the guy
he crushed one all the way outta the park
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
but so did some of the Wizards guys
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Rich Harden versus Arizona's lineup tonight
he may get 15 k’s
biggest group of free swingers in the league
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that'd be great for my fantasy team
i somehow managed to land him off waivers in an NL only league.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So he'll pitch a perfect 5 innings with all K's
And leave the game
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if it wasn't in Zona i'd agree with you
but those wee little bears can’t win on the road, so i say he wont get passed the 5th. he’ll give up like 4 runs as well.
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you know, i saw that almost happen
to Dave Dravecky, and i wouldn’t wish that on any pitcher
even a flub
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Shudder
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yeah
that’s one of those things you never forget
i can still remember the cracking his arm made when he threw that last pitch
sicking
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ok, i didn't mean it literally
i just meant for him to suffer one of his random injuries
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It's up to Duncan
to bring in the run
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DunKan? Bets?
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Chirping in here...
but we really need Joel Pineiro to last at least 7. He’s on a good pace so far – here’s hoping he can keep it up.
bring the pain DUNK
bring it like you haven’t brought it all season long
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there's the pain
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa! how was that not a strike
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Is that like the "dick-out" rule in golf?
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Here
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for the sake of humanity
i’ll say we will forego making Duncan follow that rule
boo cubs, hooray beer
McClung's curve is pretty good tonight
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+1
unfortunately
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I don't know what's worse
A K or that
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AK
at least duncan has a chance to hit a HR or something.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
At least that was a six pitch AB…
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by NoSteroidsHere on Jul 21, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
why did the ump look at DUNK after ball 3?
he looked like he asked him if DUNK swung or not.
way show us your power big DUNK*
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He it it out . . . of the box
barely
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At least we're making McClung pitch
61 thru 3. Next inning probably his last.
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unless is takes him 40 pitches to get through the next inning
he’ll get through at least two more.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
why is braun's mom such a big deal?
nice K Joel
but seriously, every time you hear about braun, you hear about his mom. whats the big deal?
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he's Susan Sarandon's son?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
me funny
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
thats not his mom
dan on FSN said she works for AB out in Cali
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yeah, on FSN
on the Big FOX, on the WWL. every time during the all star game when he was brought up, they talked about his mom. i’ve never seen her so i was wondering what the big deal was
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i've heard she's a very attractive woman.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
that was her best movie by far
and i think she looked great in it
now, not so much
side note, i’d love to find a cougar who dug baseball as much as she did in that movie
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nice pitch Joel
better play Troy
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good start, indeed.
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glaus
is my favorite leatherman tool
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
and he's got a hit, too!
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Danger with Claus being so hot now. North Pole will melt down even faster. . .
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ha!
that was silly as hell, but funny
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you know, i'd be OK with that
as long as they found some more oil up there & got gas back down under $2 bucks a gallon
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I'm ready to start pluggin in my car
but then they’ll have to build more nuke plants
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
more nukes & more oil
thats exactly what we need
i’m not ready to plug in my car. have you seen the new Dodge Challenger?
i want one. desperately.
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I ride a bicycle dude
I live in Chicago, the only way to go
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
do you freeze your arse off in the winter?
i dont want to brag, so i’m not going to tell you what i drive. but like nota bene, i’m getting killed at the gas pump
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I lug shit around with me everywhere I go
at work it’s tools and ladders and hoses and shit, and then at night it’s the drumset. That don’t fit on the bus….
true
I have a guitar amp that I need a van or a truck to haul around. I’ll probably get some kind of used car at some point. unless the electrics come about soon, then I can just go around here. makes sense in the city right now, in the future, probably they will be pretty normal
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean
I drive a frigging VW, it’s not like it’s a guzzler.
Solar or whatever will be powering a hell of a lot more than it is now a whole lot sooner than people think…..
yeah
it will become a necessity soon, probably the next 5 years will see tons of change
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
in the winter
I just ride a train or a bus. although some brav the winter on their bikes. not me though
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
my brother law did that in college so thats why i asked
he’s a big dude though, and the cold doesn’t get to him like it does to a thinner person. but still, it’s the windy city, in the winter. i’d take the L.
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definitely
I don’t know how many more chicago winters I have in me, even with riding the cta
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Now here's the bad news. Elves will apply for unemployment in Missouri. Rudolph to the zoo next to Phil the gorilla.
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don't swing at that Yadi
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, don't see that often
Yadi Ks
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I hope dunc gets lifted asap
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing the same as in yours
are you from another reality?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta swing the bat IZ2
that was a right down the middle
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Iz2 is struggling at the plate
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Iz2
is just a subpar hitter, period. If there is one deadline trade they make I’d like to see them get an everyday shortstop that can hit AND field.
The signing of Iz2 never really made sense to me
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by NoSteroidsHere on Jul 21, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I jsut figure on an automatic out
when Ix2 is up. This way I am pleasantly surprised once every other game…
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by NoSteroidsHere on Jul 21, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
*Iz2
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by NoSteroidsHere on Jul 21, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
.171 this month, .408 OPS
UG-LEE
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Tigers still think they have a WC shot?
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i dont think he's going any where
the Tigers gave up way to much to get him to just let him go this season
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pretty low
he’s been bad at the plate this year IIRC.
Rather than do that, I’d rather see them pick up Grudzy and put (deep breath) Miles at short.
on the pregame thread
in the discussion about the proposed Rasmus-to-A’s blockbuster, I wondered if a Ryan for Ellis deal would be something Beane would be interested in…..
he'd be a lot better
if he’d stopped hitting left handed
of course that would actually take the Cards hitting coach doing his job. and we just can’t have that now can we?
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McClung
76 thru 4. Woulda been nice to get somebody on base in that inning, but their pen is going to have to do a minimum of three tonight, maybe four if we can threaten in the bottom of the 5th….
Top of the order gets to see him once more
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One nice trend of late. With right handers facing us, Kennedy still on the bench. Would that applied to Duncan as well
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C'mon, Joel
Bear down, here. Let’s get outta this inning.
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Kinda surprised McClung is batting
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He is currently one of the worst hitters in the major leagues
it’s inexcusable to give up a HR to him
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He's another of these mysteries...
Looper
Eckstein
Encarnacion
....why?
by Red in Chicago on Jul 21, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not the signings per se
it’s the multi-yearness of them. Barf.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 21, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, WonderBrad
get ready
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Belike Weeks not realy excited about Durham's arrival, but Brewers seem pleased with Joel
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doesn't this seem to happen often?
Pinero has a nice couple innings and then has one crappy inning that puts us behind?
Yeah
nearly every time out. He’s not even as effective as Boggs.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 21, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
switch him w/Thompson
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Thank God for the Sabathia trade
otherwise the ESPN guys would have NOTHING to talk about.
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by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jul 21, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
every thing is getting smoked off of Joel this inning
crikey dude get a grip!
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Bring the fork
Jo-el is done
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I love it how
Pineiro pitches awesome for 4 1/3, then when guys start getting on, all of a sudden a Brewers rally was “inevitable.”
to be fair
every ball but the last one was smoked that inning. its not like he was getting dinked & dunked, he was getting drilled.
to me, its aggravating because he was doing so well, then BAM. the lead is gone.
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I would feel just as happy with Boggs or Garcia taking his spot on the roster
and DFAing him. Seriously. Or trade Pineiro to Pittsburgh for a half-dozen dipped maple bats.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 21, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
But he should be shipped out with some dineros to cover his Pineiros.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 21, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
nice grab Mini M
the over the shoulder catch is a lot harder than it looks
get the lead back O. don’t fall asleep on us now
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astros players?
nice start Skippy
muscle up Mini ME
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well i'll tell you, having to watch steak and shake commercials but not being able to go get some
we do have whataburger though. I could do without hearing the Schnuk’s song every other break though.
Whattaburger
is my nephew’s favorite fast food chain
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
ohio really needs
whataburger, in n out, jack in the box & hardee’s.
i’m sick of McD’s, burger king & wendy’s
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nice hit Schu!!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
ENOUGH ON THE SABATHIA TRADE, OK!!!!!
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by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jul 21, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
how long have they had all this scripted?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I swear they posed Sabathia and Sheets in the dugout
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by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jul 21, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
or Ankiel?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Leftys are slightly better against McClung though
but don’t tell LaRussa that Luddy has reverse splits.
where has Albert's power gone?
i had forgotten he hasn’t hit one since 300
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Four possibilities
1. It’s mental.
2. It’s physical.
3. It’s random variation.
4. Pitchers aren’t giving him anything to drive.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 21, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
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