Game 101 Open Thread -- July 21, 2008
The Brewers began the year as the only other team in the majors batting the pitcher 8th but have since changed their minds, moving Jason Kendall and his sterling 76 OPS+ to the 8 hole and the pitcher back to the bottom. The team is right behind the Cards offensively – averaging 4.73 runs per game to the Cards 4.78. They’ve been a little better at home on offense while the Cards have been much better on the road. I guess we should expect more offense if this were being played in Miller Park, huh?
Like the Cards, the Brewers have had some troubles on the mound. Presently, they’re again just behind the Cards, yielding 4.46 runs per game to the Cards 4.45. Their bullpen ERA is 4.20, just ahead of the Cards’ 4.21 which put the two teams at 10th and 11th in the NL, respectively. The Brewers Defensive Efficiency Ratio is .697 to the Cards’ .698. They’re 1 game behind in the standings (even in the loss column) and their Pythagorean record is 51-47 to the Cards’ 53-47 – again, even in the loss column. Both teams are exactly 4 games better than their Pythagorean records say they should be. Sounds like two extremely evenly matched teams.
Historically, this has been a team that has struggled away from home but their 24-26 record so far this year is 4th best in the NL. The Cards are 30-21 at home (and are, incidentally 27-22 – best in the NL on the road).
Tonight’s starter for the Brew Crew is Seth McClung – a guy who’s become one of two pawns in the Brewers' Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde experiment. They are platooning starting pitchers -- starting Dave Bush at home and McClung on the road. Bush has been awful on the road and solid at home while the reverse is true for McClung. This experiment is based, partly, on McClung's 40 whole innings in Milwaukee and 35.2 innings on the road. Uhhh...small sample size anyone? Maybe it's based more on Bush's splits who, at least, has a pretty sizable home/road split for his career -- involving 390 and 345 innings, respectively.
McClung does walk too many and has given up too many homers but has struck out 7.7 per 9 IP. His GB% of 40.2% is low and very similar to his career numbers. If it’s warm tonight, the Cards could get some balls in the seats. Tomorrow it’ll be Suppan and then their big boys, Sabathia and Sheets. And, in case you missed it, the Brewers have a new man at the keystone to go along w/ their new ace as they added Ray Durham yesterday. Let’s win this one, boys. The pitching matchups only get tougher from here.
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P.S. There is, apparently, no picture of Seth McClung on file -- thus, the X. I mean this as no intentional slight towards Mr. McClung and will take full responsibility should this insult lead to a Brewers' wipeout of the Cards tonight. Please Cards and (gulp!) Mr. Pineiro! Please bail me out!!!!
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Why
did you white out the picture (sarcasim)
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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Lineups per Gameday
MIL
Weeks 2B
Hardy SS
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
Hart RF
Hall 3B
Cameron CF
Kendall C
McClung P
STL
Schumaker RF
Miles 2B
Pujols 1B
Ankiel CF
Glaus 3B
Duncan LF
Molina C
Pineiro P
Izturis SS
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
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It's borderline criminal that Duncan is starting over Ludwick
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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yup
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Sweet!
McClung is my 4th cousin. Let’s beat him!
by KeepOnRolen on
Jul 21, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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He's a huge dude, I might add.
6’6, 250, I think.
by KeepOnRolen on
Jul 21, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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When's the last time you saw him?
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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Only met him twice.
3-4 years ago at his family’s ranch in West Virginia
by KeepOnRolen on
Jul 21, 2008 6:58 PM EDT
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I used to live in WV
Charleson, to be exact. I wouldnt have figured there to be much ranch land in WV
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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It's a pretty sweet set-up
Cutting horse ranch.. about 125 acres, IIRC.
by KeepOnRolen on
Jul 21, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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4th Cousin
Hey, how are you Seths cousin? I know him very well.
by RUSHPREZ on
Jul 21, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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anyone know if
The Cubs game will be on WGN tonight?
by pujols05 on
Jul 21, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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Doesn't appear that way
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 6:58 PM EDT
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good evening
biggest series of the year. let’s do it!
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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biggest series on the year
so far…...
/simpsons movie
by FunkeeC on
Jul 21, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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Just seen on FSMW feed...
Ryan Braun is the #1 Cardinals killer this year at .485. Let’s pitch to him with nobody on 3 times tonight and that’s it!
by stlfan on
Jul 21, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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Why is it that I hate every team we play in the Central this year
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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Usually
I can love playing the likes of the Reds, Brewers, and Pirates,
But man, its seems like I have angst everytime we play someone from our division.
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
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wait wait
is EA on ESPN tonight?
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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doubtful
i haven’t seen her to a fly over state monday night game in a while
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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just kidding...
(or just figured it out.)
by stlfan on
Jul 21, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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got a question for you guys
Are Tom and Matt Pagnozzi related?
by pujols05 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
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I think its his nephew
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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thank you, that was bothering me all day
by pujols05 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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slightly OT
Tommy Herr’s son plays for the Reds’ AAA team in Louisville… an infielder, but shorter and heavier than dad, and not as talented.
by the Tewk on
Jul 21, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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he was
a springfield card a couple years ago
"I wouldn’t have seen it if I hadn’t believed it.’" ~Shannon
by sprfldcard on
Jul 21, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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whose doing the game on ESPN?
i figure it’s steve phillips so i didn’t even bother to look.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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yeah
or orel (sp?)
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on
Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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and orel
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on
Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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him along with hershiser & oneil
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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can't stand any of 'em
thank god i can still have my dan and al in HD
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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yeah
that’s so much better
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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Yuck
Not pretty Schu
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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dude is fast
seriously
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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Let Iz2 take care of him
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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or get him to ground out
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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someone want to do a play by play for the first two innings
it would be appreciated
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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sure,
my dad always told me i had the perfect face for radio
big prince is down 0-2
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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3 yadis = 2 princes?
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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huh
no. I dont care if prince fat ass is veggan he is still huge
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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just shows
that heredity is just as much or more apt to determine the body type of someone
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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now i have the spin doctors in my head.
thanks very much.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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if you, want to call me baby
just go ahead now
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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No People in the Seats!
I know it’s an early start and all…but c’mon St. Louis. Show up early after the walk-off grand salami by GRIT yesterday.
by stlfan on
Jul 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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it's 120 degrees outside
cut em a little slack
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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im in houston and I teed off at 1:30 today
they should be in the seats – but no sports franchise is worse about that than our rockets.
by rlgosnell on
Jul 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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well down in HTown dont you get a breeze off the gulf?
i’m also curious, do you have the humidity that the STL has? i always thought texas had more of a dry heat humidity wise
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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houston is 95-100 and 100% humidity from may to september
no theres no breeze. we’re 40 miles from the gulf and theres so much damn concrete everywhere that it fries the air if there is.
by rlgosnell on
Jul 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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Reason #234893475
I would never live in Houston
"It's such a beautiful sport, with no politics involved, no color, no class. Only as a youngster can you play and as a pro can you win. The game has kept me young, involved and excited and for me to be up here with gems of baseball"- Jack Buck
by CurtainCall on
Jul 21, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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is it on mlb.com
?
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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mlb.tv you mean?
the answer is yes
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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er, at least in nyc.
should probably qualify that.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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javascript:launchGameday({gid:’2008_07_21_milmlb_slnmlb_1’,mode:’gameday’})
by pujols05 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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espnhd or fsn with hrabosky and dan-o
hd just looks so spectacular…
by rlgosnell on
Jul 21, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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2-2 to big prince
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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strike that horse turd out
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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you're not high on prince are you?
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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not a lot of players
who dress like slobs
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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CB Buckner
Is horrible. Good calls on Fielder there…they were balls…but overall…horrible. (sorry for the ellipses).
by stlfan on
Jul 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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ball 3 was clearly a ball
it was on the white of the RH batters box
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Jul 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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Got through Braun and Fielder once
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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big price grounds out to Mini me
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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run prince run
i think 5 grits=one fielder
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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Nice start, Joel!
Need six more like that, but please feel free to omit/delete the one out double.
by fuegophil on
Jul 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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Is gameday right, 5 changeups to Fielder?
cajones there.
Hasta la vista, vaqueros
by random on
Jul 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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chris duncan owes us a big game.
not a big fan of this lineup.
by rlgosnell on
Jul 21, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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other than duncan for ludwick,
what would you change?
e'rebuilding mang
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Jul 21, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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I think I saw a stat in the PD where right handers are batting with a lower
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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BA than lefties
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good start!
is mcclung afraid of skippy for some reason?
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Jul 21, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Schumaker get out?
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Jul 21, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Skippy got a 5 pitch walk Juan
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Jul 21, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Mini Me K's on a check swing
Albert is up
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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dangit, he went...
(Miles, strikeout on a check swing)
by stlfan on
Jul 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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that def wasnt a grand slam swing
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Jul 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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Miles
you used up your luck in your last at bat. so now it’s time for a K
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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go APu!!!!
strikeouts from left-center
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Jul 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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you dont piss off albert
you wont like him when he’s angry
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 21, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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wow, ball 1 looks like it drilled albert (on gameday)
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Jul 21, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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very high and tight
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Jul 21, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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right at his face
he had to back away
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Jul 21, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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some chin music for Albert
he fouled the next one off, 1-1
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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McClung
playing with fire with that high & tight one….
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Jul 21, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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and even if he gets away with it here
by the third time AP’s up he might have a big surprise waiting for him….
by nota bene on
Jul 21, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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why are we giving constant updates
can’t everyone see the game?
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Jul 21, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Does Ned yost
really want to play that game again
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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hey jay leno is qutting the tonight show?
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Jul 21, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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2009
he’s being forced out
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Jul 21, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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no
it’s been planned for awhile. he wants to retire.
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Jul 21, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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thats not really true
he doesn’t want to quit. NBC jumped the gun trying to lock up conan & promised him Jay’s gig.
i dont really thing he’ll leave, but we’ll see. he does not want to quit, but NBC will own Conan $40 Million if Jay stays.
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Jul 21, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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Conan will take his place
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Jul 21, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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conan o brian
this is like year old news peole
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Jul 21, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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I watch as little TV as possible
It’s great, I’m always behind when people are talking about celebrities.
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Jul 21, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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Albert hits a slow roller to SS
force at 2nd, Albert was safe at 1st
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way to go Ank!
strikeouts from left-center
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Jul 21, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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mcclung looks wild tonight...
i hope we can take advantage
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nice hit ank
solid liner over the SS
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Ank tagged that one
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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hey fang did you see Erin Andrews at the ESPYS
absolutely smokin…
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no
but i’m now recording the encore on ESPN2 just to see her.
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you'll be glad.
low cut dress – lots of camera time on the pre-show
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yes
i know what i’m watchin after the game.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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You said it man
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Rick singles to center
Albert to second
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Jul 21, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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McClung looks ripe for a beating
strikeouts from left-center
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Jul 21, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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booyah santa
2 run double off the center field wall
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Yeah Glaus!!
You’re the boss!!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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alright troy
keeps getting better and better
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Jul 21, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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Glaus hits a double
2-0 good guys
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Jul 21, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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isn't it illegal to imitate the Hawk?
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Jul 21, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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you?
or the chi sox hack?
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Fan-freaking-tastic
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ankiel just about runs over Pujols who practically stops halfway down the third base line. What is he (Albert) thinking?
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Glaus is heating up big time
strikeouts from left-center
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Why is Duncan in the lineup tonight? I'd love to know TLR's reasoning
boo cubs, hooray beer
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lefty righty splits for mclung
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favors lefties
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Jul 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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i think by 30 points or something like that
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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how about the splits that say Duncan sucks and Ludwick is an all star? Does TLR look at those?
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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ok Duncan
show us you should be in the lineup today. cuz I’m clueless about that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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dunc is favored over luddy today
plus you want luddy for the next three pitchers the brew crew is going to throw at us
by BirdsonFire on
Jul 21, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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hahahaha
nice pitch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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actually
Kendall looked like he was in slow motion trying to catch that one
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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bc ludwick kills righties and had a strong weekend series
so naturally he sits
by rlgosnell on
Jul 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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why is he not playing?!!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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time for ny first Franklin
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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hopefully that will help my spelling
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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DUNK gournds out to 2nd
he sucks
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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headache?
long night?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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I'm waiting for the Nepotism chant from the crowd
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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how would that go?
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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"who's your daddy" might work
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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Nepotism - clap clap.. clap clap clap
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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nep-oh-tism
like lets…go..cardinals
by rlgosnell on
Jul 21, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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nepotism?
what, is his name michael bradley now?
i’m sure no one gets that one too
by BirdsonFire on
Jul 21, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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someone care to tell me why Dunc is still on the team?
by pujols05 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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Pitching coach
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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that's not fucking true
and as always it’s still a stupid fucking argument.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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everybody on this board
is so reactive. I’d hate to play for a lot of these people….if I have one off-day BAM I’m DFA’d.
by nota bene on
Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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i believe it is true
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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did you believe it was true in 2006 and 2007
before he got hurt?
by nota bene on
Jul 21, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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No
but he has been consistently bad for so long now, that their is no justification for him to remain on this roster
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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and their is even less justification for him getting starts over someone with Ludwick's numbers
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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I agree with you
that Ludwick should be playing over Duncan. But I don’t think the only reason he has a job is because of Dave. I’d like to see Duncan traded, but as long as he’s on the ML roster he’s going to play occasionally.
Maybe Ludwick could use a day off? TLR spells his starters every so often. Plus it’s hot as hell right now, if you hadn’t noticed…..
by nota bene on
Jul 21, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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I just think you can't count out nepotism as a factor for him being on the roster
not with as close as dave duncan and tony la russa are. Also, if you recall Dave Duncan’s reaction when Chris was sent to Memphis, and now Mozeliak is unwilling to send him back down, further makes me believe that it atleast plays a small part
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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what do you mean, I can't count it out?
He came back up cause Pujols got hurt like a week after he got sent down.
Do you have any actual evidence or are you just going to allege things?
by nota bene on
Jul 21, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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They had already decided to bring him back up before Pujols got hurt
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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I realize that's why he came back up
but why hasn’t he been sent back down then now that Pujols is healthy? He isn’t producing at a much better clip than last time he got sent down.
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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and at AAA he was hitting under .200
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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you got any better options?
and don’t say joe mather.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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Mather is a better play, in my opinion, but i'll give way to TLR on that because I know he wants a lefty bat
but the fact remains, Duncan should not get starts over Ludwick
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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you're right that duncan shouldn't play over ludwick
but ludwick has become pretty much an everyday player. maybe it’s a day off.
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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2-2 to Mr Sunglasses at night
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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let me guess
Mike Cameron
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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Corey Hart
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Is there an echo in here
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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echo
echo
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on
Jul 21, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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Great snag Skip!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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Nice catch Schumaker
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by Raconteur on
Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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awesome cattch skippy!!!!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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Skippy with a heck of a catch in the right field corner
that sun is BR U TAL out there
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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some nasty sun out there
tough play
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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schu!
I got a good feeling about tonight. Gotta get this series off to a good start.
by mbd1mbd1 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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good work skip
barry bonds does not catch that.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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Mr Bonds does not play right either
just sayin :-)
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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point taken.
‘course, the flip side of that coin is that skip does.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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Thats funny
because he does not run after it either considering NOBODY wants him
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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I'd much rather have Skip than Bonds
by nota bene on
Jul 21, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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still a little lingering from the last thread
don’t mind me.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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at this point, i don't think he can really play LF.
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by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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Morning, VEB nation. 6:30 in the am, only slightly hung over and great way to start the day. Go Birds!
Only 23 more outs
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
by akaitori on
Jul 21, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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some one just singled to left
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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I hope we get such a lead
that we don;t have to see Izzy tonight.
by pujols05 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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Doubt we'd see him anyways
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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you can't have a big enough lead with on the Brew Crew
they can mash
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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honestly
how much better is fielder, hart, hardy than ankiel, luds and glaus?
by rlgosnell on
Jul 21, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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you mean braun?
if you’re bringing fielder into it, i’m bringing pujols.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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i would consider braun and pujols close to a wash
obviously albert is superior in every facet, but they’re close
by rlgosnell on
Jul 21, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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Glaus doing it with the leather too
Best defense in baseball :)
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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atta kid glaus
saved a run prob
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 21, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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nice job santa
again, scott who?
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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holy smokes!
man am i glad we got Troy
hot shot to 3rd, he snags it & doubles off the runner at 1st
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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I'm too lazy to look...
do we get CCSab on Tues or Wed or Thurs?
by the Tewk on
Jul 21, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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not looking forward to that...
i live in SF and was at the giants-brewers game friday night. CC was utterly dominant. (though fortunately our lineup is…well…just a bit better than SF’s)
by djones9 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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Yadda hits a deep fly to left center
1 out
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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Are you the resident play-by-play guy?
by mojowo11 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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that guy Juan asked for it
so i’m trying to help a brother out
so yes
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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thank you again
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by Where is that Juan guy on
Jul 21, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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Can you use MLB gameday or ESPN gamecast?
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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Joel singles to right
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Jul 21, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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Who said Pineiro couldn't hit
Nice line drive
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by Mr Redbird on
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Hit-and-run
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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or the bass player for ZZ Top
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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by the look of it,
zz top is before FATHER time.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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is ZZ Top really that old?
the 80’s were not that long ago were they?
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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not really.
i just meant by the LOOK of it. believe me, there’s some zz on my ipod.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on
Jul 21, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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the 80's were before my time
by stlcardinalsfang on
Jul 21, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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careful young man
be very very careful
aren’t you like 22?
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by gdm426 on
Jul 21, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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jesus, that's terrifying - and i'm 27.
e'rebuilding mang
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Jul 21, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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