It's FAN-tastic!!!
After 7 ½ innings yesterday, the Cards were down 3-2 and had a 31.4 % chance of winning. Did I mention that Kelvin Jimenez actually threw 2 scoreless innings and Randy Flores got 2 batters out? Be still my heart! When Troy Glaus came to the plate, w/ 2 out and 2 on in the bottom of the 8th, the Cards’ likelihood of winning the game had fallen to 29.2%. Then, w/ one swing of the bat, Glaus hits a blast – a rocket, no-doubter into the left-center field seats that should have won the game. The Cards’ win expectancy went from 29.2% to 92.6%. By win expectancy, it was the single biggest play of the day. It’s tough to believe the Cards would have an even greater moment.
The 8th ends and the Cards have a 5-3 lead entering the 9th. Franklin was spent, having gone 2 innings Saturday and so the 9th was turned over to Izzy. I haven’t read yesterday’s game threads (and won’t) but there must’ve been some high anxiety here even as people were still celebrating Glaus’ tremendous shot. Izzy manages to get exactly 1 man out and then the Padres go single, double, single, to get within one. Thankfully, Tony was ready w/ Brad Thompson. Under normal circumstances (w/ Izzy performing at top level), it would’ve been Izzy’s game to lose. So Tony calls on Thompson who, suddenly, has become the bullpen savior. Or is he? He is quickly greeted by a Kevin Kouzmanoff double to center. Fortunately, Brian Giles runs the bases rather cautiously and is forced to stop at 3rd, keeping the score at 5-5. In watching the play on video replay, it looked like a double all the way and I can’t imagine why Giles didn’t see that from the moment it left Kouzmanoff’s bat. Perhaps Ankiel’s defensive reputation is just that good or maybe Giles was just that concerned about getting doubled off, but it appears to me as though he should’ve scored on that play. Regardless, the score was 5-5 w/ runners on 2nd and 3rd and 1 out.
At this point, the Cards’ win expectancy had fallen from 92.6% to 28.4%. Chase Headley was intentionally walked and Thompson got some guy I’ve never heard of to bounce into a 3-2 fielder’s choice. (The Padres have a lot of guys nobody’s ever heard of.) Then Adrian Gonzalez (a guy I, most certainly, have heard of) batted w/ the bases loaded and 2 outs and our best defensive player snared his line drive and saved 2 runs, thus bringing the game to the bottom of the 9th, tied at 5. The Cards’ win expectancy was now 64.3%. With one out, Cards’ fans were waiting for some Pujols heroics and they would not be disappointed! With a 3-0 count, in a tie game, bottom of the ninth, Albert Pujols…DREW A WALK!!!!!!! Some have lamented the fact that Albert has fewer RBI than usual and others, such as myself, have defended him saying "teams aren’t pitching to him w/ games on the line."
How big was Albert’s walk yesterday? Fangraphs says it increased the Cards’ win expectancy by about 5.5%. I don’t know where the pitches were but Albert didn’t expand his zone. Bryan Corey didn’t want to pitch to Albert in that situation – he wasn’t going to let Pujols beat him but, you know what, Albert DID beat him by accepting the walk. It’s important to remember just how valuable getting on base is and that Albert is helping the team score runs every time he walks. BTW, Albert is now up to 63 walks against 30 K’s on the season. Not too shabby! After a throwing error in which someone else I’ve never heard of (I think it was actually the first guy I’d never heard of) threw the ball in the right-field corner while trying to do his best Yadi impression, Albert stood at 3B w/ 1 out and the aforementioned Yadi Molina at the plate. The Cards’ win expectancy was now at 83%. Two intentional walks later and, well, you know the rest!
Aaron Freaking Miles. Aaron Freaking Miles. A fly ball to right wouldn’t have been that surprising. Base hit to right – not at all surprising. He’s actually been quite good in "clutch" situations this year -- .937 OPS (before yesterday) in close and late situations and a Pujolsian 1.029 in tie games. For his career he’s been pretty average in these situations but, all in all, not a bad player to have at the plate. Still, did anyone anticipate a bomb into the right-center field bullpen? Whooda thunkit? Strangely, it wasn’t all that long ago when a similar, yet even more clutch walk-off grand slam occurred. In 2005, the Cards were trying to follow up their 105 win season and were on their way to another 100 win season when this guy -- all 5’6" and 170 lbs. of him muscled up and turned a 2 run deficit into a 2 run walkoff win w/ one swing of the bat. Maybe what we really need w/ the bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th is the smallest guy on the team at the plate! In any case, while it wasn’t quite as dramatic as Eckstein’s shot (tie game vs. 2 runs down), the grand slam helped the Cards sail to a 4 game sweep of the Padres to begin the season’s second half.
A few things are notable about the comeback. First, the Cards, despite having a very good season so far, haven’t been great in the late innings. Prior to yesterday, the Cards were just 3-27 when behind after 7 innings. Maybe another great comeback victory like yesterday’s will turn that trend around. It was the 2004, 105-win team, that was so good in the late innings – winning more than 15% of the games in which they were behind after 7 innings. It’s not the offense, however, that has generally been the problem late in games as the Cards’ main problem manifested itself once again yesterday. The pitching, in "late and close" situations hasn’t been at all good this year, as opponents have an .895 OPS against our pitchers in those situations. In innings 7-9, Cards’ opponents’ OPS is .779, good for an OPS+ of 118 when compared to other teams in these innings.
The closing situation still appears to be a problem. I have to say that I’m pulling like hell for Izzy. There aren’t many who are bigger Izzy fans than I am but, at some point, he’s either going to have to get it together or become a mop-up guy. Since being activated from the DL on June 14, he’s walked 7 and given up 7 ER in 15 IP. He has struck out 13 and only given up 1 homer but it’s clear from yesterday’s game that Tony doesn’t feel completely comfortable w/ him out there. An article in yesterday’s p-d, printed prior to yesterday’s game, called Izzy "a wild-card" and implied that he’s going to have to prove himself before consistently being called upon in the 9th.
As for Franklin, he’s pretty scary also. He’s already walked 19 batters – 11 more than the entire season last year in 35 fewer innings. He is striking out about 6 runners per 9 IP but his walk rate is way up and his ground ball rate is way down. His FIP right now is 4.57 – not good. In 2006 we had closer problems but Adam Wainwright emerged as a superb stopper. Who’s going to do it this year? As the club becomes more and more concerned about Izzy and Franklin, the price tag for Brian Fuentes climbs. He’s already coveted by several teams as it is.
Still, the Cards are now 14 games over .500 for the first time this season and, in fact, for the first time since June 21, 2006. This was actually the day before Anthony Reyes (remember him?) threw that sensational game against the White Sox where he was beaten 1-0 on a Jim Thome homer. The Cards were pounded in that series and, from that point through the end of last season, the Cards were 119-134 in regular season games. Now the Cards have played exactly 100 games this season and are 57-43. I have to say that I’m surprised at how well they’re playing.
As for Jaime Garcia’s first start – all in all, not too bad. 5 IP, 4 H, 1 BB, 4 K – the 2 HRs aren’t good but he hasn’t shown a proclivity toward giving up homers. He had only given up 6 all season in more than 103 IP and 24 in 362 minor league innings. Still, you’ve gotta be able to keep the pitcher in the ballpark. He did get 8 ground outs vs. 4 air outs. Add that to 4 K’s and he’s got something to build on. He’s probably not the solution but he may be able to hold down the fort until either Carp or Wainwright are ready.
And on that note, yesterday was, of course, Carp’s first rehab assignment at Springfield. From looking at the numbers, it seemed to go quite well -- 4 IP, 1 H, 4 BB and 4 K’s. I’m not that worried about the walks – it’s not like they could hit him. He hadn’t pitched in more than a year and a half. He’s going to struggle w/ his control some. It’s to be expected. What’s really important is that the velocity’s there and that his arm feels good and, apparently, he was hitting 92 and his curveball had "wicked movement" and his arm felt good afterward. That’s absolutely great news. The real test of arm soreness may come today or tomorrow but it’s still good to hear that there was no pain during or after the outing.
So, the Cards are still 2 back of the Cubbies. Expecting the Astros to sweep them was too much to hope for anyway and we’ll begin a big 4 game series w/ the Brewers later this evening. It’s a 6:05 game (ESPN?) so I’ll be up w/ a game thread as 6:00 approaches. They’re hot on our heels after winning their series against the Giants so this becomes a big one. It looks like it’s going to be a tough, 3-team race from here on out. Hopefully, yesterday’s game becomes a metaphor for the way the season plays out.
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Thompson
Great post all the way around, HC. Is it possible that Albert is still underrated? Really? I honestly think he might be. On a less than positive note, the problems with the bullpen (Flores, et al) have been pored over like a school nurse checking for lice. I guess my question is this: When, oh when, is LaRussa stop thrusting Thompson into critical game situations? If you look up “mop-up pitcher” in the baseball dictionary, there’s a picture of Thompson’s face. Drives me insane. Honestly, if that’s all we have to complain about at this point, it’s been a pretty good ride.
I bought the t-shirt.
by thejackclarkfive on Jul 21, 2008 3:13 AM EDT 0 recs
with men at first and third and one out
run expectancy is 1.243. IE MLB pitchers historically give up slightly more than 1 and a 1/4 runs. Thompson gave up one. He did fine. Yeah, some guys get out of that jam without giving up a run, and others give up 2 or 3 or 8, (and given his GB% (50.5%!), thompson probably gets out of that jam more often than any other pitcher in our bullpen; he just didn’t last night). The only guy with a GB rate as high as Thompson was (gasp) izzy, though KMac has a 47%. Regardless, giving up one when you are called into that situation is nothing to be ashamed of.
I also think Ankiel should have caught that fly ball- he seemed to be playing very, very, VERY shallow and the ball was in the air for what seemed like forever. He just didn’t get back on it in time. Though even if he had caught it, a run would have scored, a (what’s the “blown save” analogue for “cheap save”?) on a “sacrifice fly” sounds much better than an “rbi double”.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on
Jul 21, 2008 3:34 AM EDT
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I was listening to the radio
but it sure sounded like out 3 would have been a single 95% of the time. Perhaps people who were watching can disabuse me of that notion, but I’m glad that WonderBrad got the job done, and I still don’t really trust him.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Jul 21, 2008 3:46 AM EDT
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BT...
was hit hard by all three batters he faced…especially KK and Adrian who smoked one right at Pujols.
by cardzfanbub on
Jul 21, 2008 8:45 AM EDT
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Considering it was Kouzminoff and Gonzalez
I don’t think anyone should be worried either of them hit him hard. Those two guys are beasts. Gonzalez is a great hitter who mashes the ball and KK hits everything hard he gets a bat on.
by Tackle Box on
Jul 21, 2008 11:32 AM EDT
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No arguement from me...
I was just affirming what Valatan said about Gonzalez’s lineout…that inning could have looked a lot different if that balls hit a few feet any direction.
by cardzfanbub on
Jul 21, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
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the double given up by Thompson
Agree with Sleepy. Hobbs was playing extremely shallow as I am sure he wanted to put himself in position to throw out the runner at the plate on a short sac fly. Giles held up because, given the depth of the shot, he realistically expected the CF to catch it. I don’t think Giles recognized how shallow Ank was playing and luckily so for the Cards. Ank needs to realize that the runner on third was the tying run, not the winning run. He should have been playing at standard depth knowing that giving up a double over his head could have cost the Cards the game.
by jjray on
Jul 21, 2008 8:58 AM EDT
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Thompson has been pitching VERY well.....
I was perfectly comfortable with him out there. I’d say behind Kmac, right now, I probably trust him as much as any of our bullpen arms.
by SoonerfanTU on
Jul 21, 2008 9:34 AM EDT
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Springer...
really doesn’t get enough credit!!!
by cardzfanbub on
Jul 21, 2008 10:10 AM EDT
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Forgot about him.....
Springer belongs up there too, probably ahead of Thompson.
by SoonerfanTU on
Jul 21, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
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It's not just you Sooner...
seems to me that Springer should be our closer right now…at least anytime he’s available. He’s been consistently good for his tenure here.
by cardzfanbub on
Jul 21, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
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Really?
We’re ragging on Thomspon? Snice his last call up he has bailed us out twice. Last night and Mulders start. I realize that the runner on third scored. But when the runner is on third with 1 out he should score.
Also. He was the only one able to pitch last night.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 21, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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Don't Forget
Friday Night, In what could of been a blow out, after looper was gone after 3 innings Brad came in a pitched a couple of effective innings to keep it close until we could get it to the rest of our bullpen, and pound Maddux
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by cyko42 on
Jul 21, 2008 11:27 AM EDT
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I can't even begin to address the Thompson comment
What else were they to do?
Anyway, about Pujols being underrated. He might be “underrated” by the national media, but I don’t think he’s underrated by opposing pitchers. And it shows in the way they have been pitching him.
by Tackle Box on
Jul 21, 2008 11:30 AM EDT
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it was just one home run
and one loud out slapped into the stands by a second baseman playing LF ;)
For closer, I have to wonder about putting Jess Todd into the Kmac slot and “promoting” Kmac, a la AW. I know, Todd is probably a year away, but he is putting up some good numbers at AA. It’s a real shame Perez didn’t get it all together when he had his shot (although he wasn’t THAT bad) since he’s the obvious “answer”. Even now, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to promote Perez to “7th inning guy”, Kmac to “closer”, and DL izzy.
FWIW it’s also a real shame that Springer is getting old. I love that guy. He’s basically filled the role of “bullpen ace” the last 2 years without anyone calling him that. And he’ll be gone next year, most likely, a glaring and (currently) cheap hole we’ll have to fill with someone either home-grown or expensively purchased.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on Jul 21, 2008 3:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Beat me to it on the Skippy 2 base error in LF
As far as bring up Todd, why not Salas? Watched him in the Futures game and he appears to already have big league stuff. He can’t be worse then Kelvin Jiminez generally is.
Also, along the lines of stuff you couldn’t see in the boxscore: Corey’s pitches to Albert weren’t even close. The Catcher was literally set up in the LH batter’s box. Even if it had ended up down the middle, no umpire is going to call a strike when the catcher is almost in the home team dugout.
You also missed Matty V on the Padres broadcast saying they WOULDN’T load the bases in this situation after THEY JUST ARGUED TO LOAD THE BASES earlier when TLR did it. I couldn’t believe my ears.
About Carp, it’s insane to think that the guy has been an afterthought. I was listening to the game last night and it dawned on me, he is literally at the point that if he had pitched 5 innings of 1 hit, 7 K shutout baseball…he’d probably be in the rotation next week. THAT’S how close we are to getting Carp back.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jul 21, 2008 3:24 AM EDT
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good point on salas
I keep forgetting about him, but he could be the guy that takes over for springer. of course, he could be the next Jimenez, as well ;)
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on
Jul 21, 2008 3:36 AM EDT
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i really have a had time seeing carp in the rotation
its just been so long, god i hope it happens soon
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by ihavebadknees on
Jul 21, 2008 6:05 AM EDT
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People talked about Mulder's return
Im okay with Carp doing it quitely.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 21, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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Couple notes
1) The other guy on the Pads broadcast said they were loading the bases when Pujols as soon as Yadi came running in from the bullpen to pinch hit for Brad Thompson.
2) On the intentional walks, I was hoping that the umpire would do what happened last year (2 years ago?) to Yadi and call a catcher’s balk to end the game. Their catcher was ridiculously early getting over there on either 2 or 3 of the 8 intentional balls.
by stlfan on
Jul 21, 2008 11:25 AM EDT
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Garcia down
Boggs up. Hmmm, wonder who starts the next time around.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 21, 2008 3:32 AM EDT 0 recs
Well
Garcia has to stay down for 10 days unless we DL someone.
by mikedallas45 on
Jul 21, 2008 9:03 AM EDT
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Where did you see this?
I’ve been looking, and haven’t found it anywhere yet
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 11:42 AM EDT
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STL today cardinal notes
says it’s likely. I haven’t seen anything official. Apparently TLR wants more arms available for the Brewers series.
by azruavatar on
Jul 21, 2008 11:55 AM EDT
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So is he going to a 14-man pitching staff?
Unless they’re using him for long relief, I don’t see how swapping Garcia for Boggs helps that problem.
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 11:58 AM EDT
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Only TLR would go with a 14 man staff...
though I think the Brewers actually had 14 pitchers at one point this season
by tbell61 on
Jul 21, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
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you can do that when you have Aaron Miles.
Im surprise we just don’t put Miles into centerfield and let him play the whole outfield. Then we could add three more pitchers.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 21, 2008 12:14 PM EDT
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But Miles...
eliminates the need for the 14th pitcher…cause he IS the 14th pitcher.
by cardzfanbub on
Jul 21, 2008 12:23 PM EDT
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use boggs in the pen for now
and send him down for a starter later
by StLHugo on
Jul 21, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
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Which starter?
Garcia can’t come back up for ten days. Unless it’s Reyes, the only other thing I can think of is maybe fast-tracking Carp back to St. Louis, which I would totally be against.
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 12:02 PM EDT
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that would be only 1 rehab
so I doubt it is Carp, Reyes, Walters, Mort, Todd, Piarsi, Clement, there are some options, none that i really like, i would have prefered they call up Worrell and then use boggs as the starter
by StLHugo on
Jul 21, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
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But then whom do they send down to call Worrell back up?
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 12:06 PM EDT
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?
I am saying instead of calling up boggs you call up worrell now, then send down worrell for boggs
by StLHugo on
Jul 21, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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Gotcha
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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it definitely should not be Carp
but I bet that is what TLR is thinking. After all, it shouldn’t have been Mulder either. I am having a little trouble understanding how having eight guys in the ‘pen, who all just had three days off, is not enough.
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by giveml on
Jul 21, 2008 5:43 PM EDT
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Thompson
the swing starter? If not he is a canidate for being sent down.
by Evilfrog on
Jul 21, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
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True
Forgot about him
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jul 21, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
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Yup
it will probably come down to who is fresher to start the game between Boggs and Thompson. If the bullpen gets blown up again and either Boggs or Thompson have to eat a bunch of innings, it would probably be the other one. Now, if they’re both spent, then you got yourself a little problem, but that’s a bridge you cross 5 days from now. Right now, you have to be prepared for a 4 game set with the Brewers.
by Tackle Box on
Jul 21, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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Certainly would not hurt to push Salas and Todd to Memphis for an audition. Garcia to the pen and Flores to the Muckdogs when/if Carp comes back.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
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by akaitori on Jul 21, 2008 3:45 AM EDT 0 recs
Grand slam walk off!
Youre right HCL, what a day to be a Cards fan. Hammonds was electric last night and Carpenter was pumped, maybe too much adrenalin, but his breaking stuff was spot on.
Between Carps tune-up, Miles grand slam and Glaus’ hot streak its hard to whine about the BP, but I will say Salas got hammered on 7/10 and it was ugly. No less painful for Spfld fans. Almost the same on 6/30, but he got the last out after giving up a huge shot that cut the lead to one, he has a ways to go to be a major leaguer. On the other hand, a healthy Carpenter and Wainwright will put a lot less pressure on the pen, hopefully.
Being Aaron Miles has to be so much more fun than being you...
by cardschinmusic on Jul 21, 2008 5:36 AM EDT 0 recs
not to be a jerk but as an FYI
it’s Hammons Field no “d”
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by nomar34 on
Jul 21, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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Stand corrected....
must have been a Hammond B-3 flashback kinda thing “nooo-mah”. We need correctors!
Being Aaron Miles has to be so much more fun than being you...
by cardschinmusic on
Jul 22, 2008 5:20 AM EDT
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Is it a mirage?
Like many others I beat the drums for the exit of Miles. Now on July 21 he has a higher slugging percentage than Duncan, is hitting .323, and has become Mr. Clutch. On the Padres broadcast (given free by MLB extra innings) they said as he stepped into the batter’s box that he has the highest batting average in THE MAJOR LEAGUES in day games. And, am I crazy, or has he looked much improved defensively? Let’s hope it lasts. Pass the crow, please.
by vinniefromjersey on Jul 21, 2008 7:50 AM EDT 0 recs
But unlike many others
you admit fault in that assertion. I have a feeling 90% of Miles bashers will still hold tight to the assertion that the guy can’t contribute to a competitive squad. He’s already produced more so far this season than I was expecting from him for the entire year… and I’m a kool-aid drinking “Miles apologist”.
All sycophancy aside, the guy is a valuable utility guy who probably doesn’t need to be starting at shortstop as much as he has. But still a good band-aid as a starting 2B.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on
Jul 21, 2008 9:41 AM EDT
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sycophancy +1
Etymology = Greek: lover of figs – Go “FIG”ure, and a good post
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
by akaitori on
Jul 21, 2008 9:55 AM EDT
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I've already been on record
as apologizing to Miles; I never thought he’d be an above average baseball player and he has been for 60% of a season now. God bless him for proving me wrong and I hope it continues.
However, it’d be more than silly for us to consider him the second baseman of the future. But for the time being, I’ma just gonna enjoy what he has done and is doing in ‘08.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on
Jul 21, 2008 11:18 AM EDT
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Always a Miles backer...
if he is a back up player on the roster. Well, he’s already got 235 plate appearances and has shown up in over 3/4 of the team’s games. I don’t know if that qualifies for eating crow or not, but I already have on Duncan in the last month…so pass it this way next?
by stlfan on
Jul 21, 2008 11:28 AM EDT
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+1
He has earned his spot at 2B. He is definetly worth his paycheck and then some…
Sorry Little Guy.
"Why does he keep saying that?"
by Red Blazer on
Jul 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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strangely enough
he looks like he has better defense at SS!
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
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Miles
I think the problem most people have had is that he either gets used too much in a role he can’t perform in, or that he’s blocking somebody younger (I’d say cheaper too, but what’s 500k to a major league team). I’m all for the guy as a utility infielder, i’m completely against him seeing him start on the regular except in some kind of emergency. Given that our infield currently qualifies as an emergency as long as kennedy is on the roster….i suppose i should reserve judgement.
by spencegrif on
Jul 21, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
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it's hard for him not to be a starter
when he keeps batting the way he has
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jul 21, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
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It's funny
But I think a lot of the frustration with Miles et al slapping singles around the park earlier in the season has gone away since Mr. Glaus found his power stroke. It’s amazing how much more valuable OBP is for the Birds’ offense now that he’s tearing the cover off the ball.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on
Jul 21, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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I was happy yesterday...
... but to risk so much playing with the Padres to me is an indication that the Cards will risk a lot Vs a better competition.
I appreciated a lot the “never give up” approach, I appreciated the will to take advantage of every opportunity the other team would give you, but to get something out of Milwaukee and Chicago, they’ll need to get some scoring improvement in the early innings and a better perfomance from pitching, expecially bullpen pitching.
But, despite this, it’s really fun to watch this team.
GO CARDS!!!
by SuperSeve on Jul 21, 2008 8:38 AM EDT 0 recs
Filling in some blanks
Saw the game from the good seats yesterday. A few thoughts to add to HC’s post:
- Izzy looked good on the first batter (seemed like he threw the cutter well there), but then seemed to go heavily with curveballs after that and couldn’t get an out. Was he hurting? Or was it in his head?
- Thompson got lucky. He wasn’t fooling anyone, and he looked frustrated already. Albert caught a missile.
- Albert’s trip to 3rd in the 9th was notable: he got very aggressive, going more than half way to 2nd as the 1B came in with Thompson showing bunt. That aggressiveness led to the catcher’s mistake. He tried to lead the 2B who was streaking back to first just ahead of Albert. Unfortunately he’s no Joe Montana and he threw behind the man and into RF. Credit Albert for drawing that throw. Credit a bad catcher decision even more (low percentage play in a key situation = bad decision)
- LaRussa then electrified the place: with a 1-0 count on Thompson, he called him back to the dugout . . . and called Yadi in from the bullpen to pinch hit! (Keep in mind, Yadi’s been in the BP all day, and I don’t think there’s a batting cage out there!) Thompson looked completely surprised, and frankly I can’t remember watching a pinch hit in the middle of an at bat (without an injury). The 30K left in the stadium erupted. It seemed a letdown when Black ordered him (and the next guy) walked, but it was really like a chess player playing the end game down a rook, looking for a miracle. Black decided he preferred Miles batting with a force out at home to Yadi batting with no force. Can’t blame him for that. Miles came through.
Great game. Great effort. All I kept saying to my friends afterward is: Mo needs to do something to match the effort these guys are putting out. He can’t let them down.
by Secret Weapon on Jul 21, 2008 8:45 AM EDT 0 recs
Yes, Great Effort
And since I was at the game yesterday, too, I’ll mention something you didn’t SW. It was freaking hot, brutal hot, people passing out in the stands hot, and there were plenty of times when it would have been awfully easy to just say, Okay, we took 3 of 4, and pack it in on a Sunday and get ready for the Brewers. This team does not quit.
by Dr Tom More on
Jul 21, 2008 9:36 AM EDT
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"He can’t let them down."
I keep hearing this, and I can’t help feeling like it’s totally unfair to Mozeliak to judge his commitment to/effort for the team based on whether he acquires someone at the deadline.
It’s really easy to get someone if you’re willing to dump your entire farm system on someone (see: Joe Blanton to Phillies), but Mozeliak doesn’t want to do that, as he shouldn’t. If he doesn’t acquire someone, it’s likely not due to a lack of effort, it’s due to his considering the price too expensive in regards to the future of the organization.
Quite frankly, unless Mo gets someone that’s more than a rental, I’ll be pretty unhappy if he trades Rasmus, Anderson, Todd, Garcia or Perez. The Jocketty model of team construction doesn’t work anymore—you need to have young, cost-controlled players on your roster to be able to afford the price of impact free agents. Trading them away before they crack the majors makes that a wee bit difficult.
That said, I have to think we could have matched up with the Cubs on an offer for Harden…they gave a pretty weak package for someone with his stuff. Oh well.
by mojowo11 on
Jul 21, 2008 9:41 AM EDT
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Agree completely
“Do something” does not equal “Do something foolish”. But you’ve got some moveable pieces in my mind: a surplus of outfield talent (including one that plays a pretty good first base – Duncan looked as good there yesterday as he looks bad in LF). A few rotation prospects, and one starter who needs a fresh start in Reyes. And you have some needs (in my mind, another quality starter and a way around the Itzurus/[Pitcher]/Kennedy hole in our lineup).
As for your list, I agree Rasmus is untouchable, and I liked what I saw in Garcia yesterday (esp as a lefty). I think Anderson demands a look. But that stems entirely from my view that this team has 2 foundational position players: Albert and Yadi. Watching Yadi talking up the team yesterday, both while warming up the pitchers b/w innings and during/after his at bat was inspirational. If you agree he’s our catcher/quarterback for the next 6 years or more, you have to see what value is out there for Anderson. Not a rental obviously, but someone who can help now and over the next couple years.
by Secret Weapon on
Jul 21, 2008 9:50 AM EDT
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Yeah, well
One coud argue that a team can’t just sign impact free agents anymore. You need to trade for them with prospects, then sign them to a huge deal. It takes both for many of those stars nowadays. Look at Johan Santana, Erik Bedard, etc.
by Hal Lanier's Pants on
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Just so you know
Miles will be signed to a 3 year contract today or tomorrow. Hahah.
by sdrone on Jul 21, 2008 9:00 AM EDT 0 recs
ran across this article
about stan the man…sorry if its already been floated around here, but its a great read
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/19/musial/
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jul 21, 2008 9:08 AM EDT 0 recs
Thanks for the heads-up on the Musial article
As a longtime fan of Stan The Man, that was wonderful reading. How’s his health? Not seeing him at the All-Star Game in NYC made me concerned.
As for the current Cards, guys – as gritty as this team is (ya gotta love ‘em), you HAVE to have a consistent closer or you aren’t going to make it into the playoffs. As the Red Sox are finding out, you also need at least one other decent setup man. Cardinal management: please figure something out here…..and stop pitching guys who, game after game, have shown they can’t get the job done. This team deserves a playoff spot, but it won’t happen with our current ‘pen.
by ccthemovieman on Jul 21, 2008 9:45 AM EDT 0 recs



