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Game 100 Overflow 2/Postgame

Go Cards ! Go Cards!

Grand slam by Aaron Miles on a 2-1 count!!!! Cards win 9-5!

The Cardinals are late-inning wonders so far in the 2nd half --- 4 runs in the 8th inning the other night, 7 runs after the 8th inning today. But Isringhausen . . . . . great run but it's over, big guy.

Use this thread to talk about whatever you want. That was a helluva game! The team is 14 games over for the first time all year.

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GO MILES!

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Jul 20, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just hit a sac

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miles!!!

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thank god

the other thread was lagging so badly for me.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

walk off grand slam

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

holy crap.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice call

you win a million online bucks

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you call that?

You are in TUNE with the grit!

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was weird.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that

the conversion rate for theoretical to online dollars?

I need to know these things, may start making predictions of my own some day.

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

10 theoretical per online….

here’s a site explaining everything….www.conversionrates.com/~theoreticaldollars

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 21, 2008 12:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm nervous

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Jul 20, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

for the overflow.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Jul 20, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't be afraid to take a walk, Miles

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH SHIT

GRAND SLAM@!!!!#$#$#

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GRAND SLAM

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Jul 20, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

aaronn miles

hahah

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

shades of eckstein.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Jul 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That

was an awesome game (when Eckstein hit the GS).

So was this one, and even more improbable!

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 5:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jesus christ.

i guess the way the rest of that game went, that’s perfect. unfreakingbelievable.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jul 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy.

Crap. What a team…offensively, at least!

by glennrwordman on Jul 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woohoo!!!!!

That was just about the most improbable ending for this game I could have thought of. It’s like that walk-off slam by Eck a few years ago.

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that. was. incredible.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Turkey Shooters did it 2006, right?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

gary bennett beat the cubs in august 2006. it was a sunday nighter.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 10:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Forgot about that one

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 21, 2008 1:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thompson for the win!

They should give that win to Pujols for the plays he made at first in the top of the inning.

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 20, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i shat myself..

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Jul 20, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it wasnt that special but...

he said “and that wins the game” before the ball was out yet but when he knew it was deep enough for a sac fly

by StLHugo on Jul 20, 2008 10:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FOUR

GAME
SWEEP

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The sig, ladies.

My gal’s fantasy team is named “Aaron Miles’ Walk-Off Grand Slams”, ironically enough.

Miles in '08

by Zoop on Jul 20, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i love this team

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he threw the bat down.

he knew it as soon as he hit it. sooooo awesome.

by adiueordie on Jul 20, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He pulled a Mang

“Awww jeaw, mang. Joono how we do.”

Miles in '08

by Zoop on Jul 20, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

would've loved "a Lawless" there

bat flip over the head

and then moonwalk around the bases while staring at Baek

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 20, 2008 5:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boy, Miles sure has been playing inspired baseball

since screwing us out of a win in Pittsburgh. Kudos to him for EARNING his playing time!

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 20, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll sit tomorrow

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well,

that was a totally substantial ending to what has been an insane series.
I don’t think i’ve been bored during this sweep at all.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome win

but can we please DFA Izzy and fix the bullpen Mo?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 20, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How does dfa-ing Izzy "fix" the bullpen?

You did realize there weren’t too many pitchers left, right?

by Tackle Box on Jul 20, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now let's take it to the Brewers!!

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rewound the DVR

Haven’t seen LaRussa smile like that since Ank’s first HR as an OF>

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's a great game to have btw, you should keep the DVD.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another good sign

8 of our 9 runs came in the last 3 innings

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arthur Rhodes?

to address bullpen issues

Fuentes? Too much.
Marte? Probably too much.

Rhodes or John Grabow from PIT seem to be great fits – give up someone like Reyes or some other player the brass have obviously given up on, and try to make it work.

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 20, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Easiest way to improve the bullpen

Either DL or DFA Izzy (I’d prefer the former) and call Mather back up. We don’t need 13 pitchers, but we do need a RH bat to spell Skip.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wouldn't mind

seeing more of Perez either – but that’s just me

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 20, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perez needs a little more time in Memphis

Work on that slider

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

doesnt help though the amount of innings they have all thrown

anyone find where the en ranks in IP? or appearences?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and gracia did well which is lost in this game

all his haters need to appologize..haha

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2008 5:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at the rate they are lasting in the games

we may need 20!

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 20, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we needed every pitcher for the past 2 games

btw, did they convert Joe Mather to short relief?

by Tackle Box on Jul 20, 2008 7:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not really

had more to do with the semi-short appearances our starters were making.

by Tackle Box on Jul 21, 2008 1:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't argue that point too much

but I will say it is 70-30 short appearances by starters and suckiness of bullpen. There are just some pitchers out in the pen that can’t be effective with even full rest. Flores will have to prove me wrong before I change my mind on him, and Izzy? I love Izzy, but he just about looks done.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2008 6:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they need either a innings eater or

a pen arm

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was phenomenal

Anyone going to be following the Springfield game? I wouldn’t mind a gamethread for it, seeing as I’ll be listening to the online radio.

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

trade talk on ESPN right now

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

update..per phillips

mets looking at Bay…
rays red sox, phils mets looking at fuentes
Tex..maybe to Zona(his opinion), but they just got tony clark what an idiot..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2008 5:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With all due respect,

Steve Phillips has about as much credibility as a house fly. There’s a reason he’s a former GM..

If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.

by cardsrul on Jul 20, 2008 5:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HEY!

who edited my wonderful thread!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was def. the player of the game

He played really well at SS today, too.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man

i’m glad i got back from riding the bike when i did, i would’ve cried myself to sleep had i missed that walk off. i love that miles did the griffey jr and struck a pose at home plate. the way the guys played today he was bound to win the game.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Padres

deserved that pose after Baek’s little foolishness.

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah i saw that replay

that was just ridiculous. there was absolutely no excuse for that.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what happened

"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."

by BigMOman on Jul 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha ha. GRIT

they hit him with shaving cream . he is being interviewed and it is in his ear, and all down his shirt.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Glad to see we took care of an inferior opponent

Now if we could only do that when we play Pittsburgh, gah

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1 on offense

but the post-garcia pitching was a problem. felt sorry for izzy, but he just can’t control location consistently-sad. thompson was lucky as hell. nice spirit, questionable pitching for sure.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 20, 2008 5:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude Izzy was the only real problem

Kelvin looked pretty good, Flores had a decent outing, K-Mac did well, Brad did good enough

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or the Giants

Proud sponsor of the Official 2008 StL Cardinal theme song: "Beautiful Day" by U2

by gocards62 on Jul 20, 2008 6:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

by the way

that game kind of solidified a belief i’ve had for quite some time now re: the usage of closers. in my opinion, saving hoffman for the hypothetical save situation was stupid in that they brought in a lesser pitcher in a tighter situation and lost the game. i understand the need for roles in a bullpen, but at the same time i’m a firm believer in using your best player when the situation demands it.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Which is another reason why it’s good to see McClellan not getting saves.

by StanTheManFan on Jul 20, 2008 5:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pay attention man!

We rip on Miles loud enough that fools like Black will hear it.

Then he treats him like the first baseman’s girlfriend’s little sister on the co-ed softball team, walking the bases loaded to bring him up, and whack! Turns out she was captain of her high school team.

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 5:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't believe I am actually gonna say (type) this

but Aaron Miles is a damn fine SS!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One game does not a fine SS make

He had a damn fine game today, but he still shouldn’t be there.

He should be there over, say, Duncan, but we can do better

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 21, 2008 1:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

okay

what are our options?

in house: iz2 is a defensive upgrade, but you want miles bat in the lineup right now and miles has actually been a better shortstop than second baseman this year. bRyan, meh, he isn’t doing much right now and once again you gotta play the hot bat in miles.

there really isn’t a trade we can swing for a significant upgrade over iz2/ryan/miles at this point.

and i know everyone wants an arod/reyes/ramirez stud shortstop…but what is so bad about a defensive specialist in iz2? last time we had a stud defensive specialist i don’t recall anyone bitching and moaning quite as much as this time around.

by lopey986 on Jul 21, 2008 1:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, I know . Miles is Not a damn fine shortstop

but I figured I had to go crazy and give him his due for that game. I still think he should be the emergency shortstop at best.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2008 6:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

funny

The Dempster love-fest over at bleedcubbieblue was rudely interrupted by our little game. Best part is they attribute miles’ HR to HGH. Everything about the cards is HGH/drunk driving/you suck. There’s class for ya…

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 20, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

have they ever looked at Miles?

I’m 5’4, and I’m pretty sure I could beat him up.
(unless he’s packing)

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shall I tell the story again?

Of Aaron Miles minor-league, off-field heroics?

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 5:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think so...

I don’t think that was understood. He is even more of a badass off field.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is this the one

with aaron miles and babe the blue ox?

by barry whiteteeth on Jul 20, 2008 5:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from wiki

In spring training of 2000, several of his teammates from the Houston Astros organization were in their hotel room when two gunmen burst in. Miles was in the next room and the gunmen went in to get him. The cops showed up before they were able to take him to their getaway car and one fled. The other forced him back into his room where he ended up wrestling the gunman to the ground. The other players involved were Morgan Ensberg, Derrek Nicholson, Keith Ginter, Mike Rose, and Eric Cole.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 6:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no shit?

holy crap, i never heard that story before but that is just ballsy as hell.

any chance Bowser was behind that?

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

donno,

but miles is still a badass. Wrestling down a armed man. Jeez. Dude is all about GRIT!

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 6:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More of the story

“When a wave of cop cars screeched into the parking lot, the man in the ski mask - a convicted felon named Richard Cook - jumped two stories to the street and temporarily escaped. But the burglar in the green bandanna, Alexander Williams, wasn’t bailing. He shoved Miles back into his room at gunpoint. The police escorted Ensberg and the others out of their room and down to the parking lot, and dug in for a standoff. For 25 minutes, the crook had a gun to Miles’ head, until the 5-foot-8 infielder, the son of a heavyweight boxer, took matters into his own hands.

He attacked the 5-foot-11, 175-pound intruder, and during the struggle, Miles bit Williams on the forearm while Williams bit Miles fiercely on the upper back. Both had their hands on the gun, and eventually, with Miles lying on top of the burglar, a SWAT policeman who’d broken through a window had no choice but to fire six close-range gunshots.

“We’re downstairs in the parking lot, and you hear this, pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop,” Ensberg says. “And we’re like, ‘Aaron’s dead.’ ” But the cop hadn’t missed, wounding Williams once in the face and five times in the upper torso. The burglar was still alive, but some of his teeth had literally been shot out of his mouth. Miles bolted through the broken window and down to the parking lot, straight into the arms of his teammate Rose.”

I saw a picture of the bitemark on Miles’ back once somewhere, but I can’t find the link.

"A hot dog at the ball game beats roast beef at the Ritz."- Humphrey Bogart

by iron duke75 on Jul 20, 2008 6:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude

aaron miles is my hero. that is just outrageously awesome and i will certainly never ever understimate that dude ever again.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 6:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That story is inaccurate

because there is no flipping way Aaron Miles is 5’8”!!

Been one of my favorites ever since. Was very happy to see the Cardinals get him.

Hasta la vista, vaqueros

by random on Jul 20, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gather 'round, then

As a minor-leaguer in the Houston farm system, Aaron Miles was sharing a two-room suite at a hotel in Florida with fellow teammates Morgan Ensberg, former Cardinal and switch-hitting catcher Mike Rose, and a few other players.

Miles had gone out to dinner with his uncle who lived nearby—his teammates stayed behind to relax at the hotel rooms. They left the doors open to catch some evening breeze when two armed men burst in, forcing the players into one of the rooms of the suite and securing their wrists with zip-ties. The criminals stole everything they could in the place then argued over whether to kill the players or not, who had seen their faces.

They had thrown blankets over the players and Ensberg, hearing their conversation, worked the blanket off his head, thinking that if these men were going to kill him, they’d know they were shooting at a man and not a pile of blankets.

Aaron Miles returned home during the criminals’ argument and entered his hotel room, the one that the players were not being held in. Hearing him return, one of the criminals went to attack him through the door adjoining the rooms. Miles fought back, wrestling for the gun. The other criminal ran off and escaped by jumping from the second-floor walkway.

One of the imprisoned players worked free of his bindings while Miles was fighting with the remaining bastard and called the police, who arrived quickly. A policeman with a shotgun smashed open the window to the room that Aaron Miles was wrestling with the bastard using his shotgun stock. Miles had gotten bit on the arm and was biting free a chunk of the criminal’s shoulder.

His fellow teammates had been evacuated by the police and were in the parking lot when the policemen who’d smashed the window fired shotgun blasts into the face and chest of the man Miles had been fighting. They thought he was dead until he sprang from the window, the other man’s blood running down his face.

Morgan Ensberg is understandably paranoid about his family’s safety after this incident. In Aaron Miles’ dreams, he always kicks the guy’s ass.

His father was a boxer.

That’s the story, as related from memory of reading it years ago.

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 6:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awww.

Could you pass the marshmallows? I dropped the last one in the fire.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 6:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Glad

that vibe came through.

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 6:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know why i found that so funny,

but i spilled my soda.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wasn't there a part where Miles almost negotiated his way out of it?

At least getting the criminal’s guard down long enough to grab for the gun

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just checked that out

My favorite comment is the “Luckiest team in baseball” one.

Uh, sure, dude…

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They need to look in a mirror

Cubs have had some freaky lucky games that easily coulda been lost. I’ve counted at least 5 games they might have choked up, including last week’s Giants almost rally.

by tinstl on Jul 20, 2008 11:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and the guys

who want dempster to throw a pitch that hits Young in the head next week. That’s classy…

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Jul 21, 2008 1:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Springfield game

6:10 eastern or central?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bueller?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 6:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm guessing

central, since it is the springfield cardinals website that says 6:10 and they are in the central timezone. could certainly be wrong though, but it would be the first time :)

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 6:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please Cris

have a great game, and hurry back to StL. We have an immediate opening in the ‘pen for you.

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by gocards62 on Jul 20, 2008 6:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

stl pd

reported that Carpenter would likely go straight into the rotation upon his return from the dl.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 6:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To be honest

I really don’t care what Cris Carpenter does tonight.

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Jul 20, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's probably

preparing his lesson plan for his summer school classes this week.

(/joke assist to wikipedia)

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 6:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm

matt holliday. hard to believe someone is gonna give up some bonafide talent for the guy and 11 of his 16 homers have been hit in the friendly confines of coors field. no thank you gross home/away splits.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Izzy

on espn.com it says he gets credit for a Hold…um should be a blown save right?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should be

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

even though

we were only tied when all was said and done and not losing?

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 5:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

he gets a hold. he got one out and the team didn’t relinquish the lead when he was done.

so does larussa use this to justify letting him pitch a few more times? “he got a hold, folks, and that is just what we expect from our set up man”

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 6:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

I was thinking since the run that tied it was charged to him, that threw out the save/hold

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hahaha

the miles walk off was just on espn.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is It me?

Or does every time troy glaus hits a tying or potential game winner homer in the 8th and beyond, the cardinals give up enuff runs to get the game tied again or lose. Me thinks it seems that glaus’s late inning heroics are over shadowed by a poor bullpen.

by hghnad on Jul 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vegas picked us to win 72 games at the beginning of the year.

Suck it, west coasters.

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by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and I didn't bet the over

like a sucker.

Actually, i thought it was 78ish? i would have almost certainly put money on 72. 78 would have been iffy because of albert’s elbow blowout potential.

Still kicking myself for not betting the over on TB though; it was 68.

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by SleepyCA on Jul 21, 2008 1:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how does one get to listen to the Springfield game

is there a web connection for people like me living in Cleveland?

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by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jul 20, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i totally forget the game was on today

for some reason i thought Padres 4 wasn’t on the DTV EI package today. weird. so i only saw the last 4 at bats. that was crazy fun.

the Padres guys were saying how good of a player Mini Me was & how good of an batters eye he had. i look at my younger bro who isn’t a baseball fan & said

“i really wish they’d stop saying how good of a player Mini Me is. he’s terrible. the only reason he has a job is TLR.”

two seconds later he hits a walk off grand slam. i start laughing & my brother goes,

“yeah, he sucks. you’re an idiot.”

yes i am bro. yes i am

i said it earlier in the week & in the other thread, and i’ll say it again

his name is Aaron F’ing Miles. and he is a ball player

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 20, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

holy crap

2 of the top 3 web gems on espn were from the orioles/tigers game and featured guys getting thrown out because they were fuggin trottin down the first base line. they’d get my cleat right up there ass, 50 million dollar contract or not.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it wasn't for that Pittsburgh disaster

This team would be on a 7 game winning streak.

It is nice to see that they recovered from that devastating loss by winning 5 in a row. No thanks to our bullpen though.

I think Todd Wellemeyer may be the best option for closer if Carp and Wainwright prove they can come back healthy and be capable starters again.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 20, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7

we lost our last game in the series before the Pirates series. So if we didn’t blow that game, we would’ve all 3 of the pirates games and all 4 of the padres games = 7.

I think that’s right, I could be wrong though

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 20, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry

I misread what you said. I thought you meant ‘going for’ an 8 game winning streak.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 20, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think part of it was the all-star break

Came back fresh, and playing the Padres

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 7:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Check this out.

I win, called it hours ago.

by liam on Jul 20, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you and i can share the GRIT tiara?

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 6:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Row 1 behind catcher

Saw the whole game today from those seats. Unbelievable win. Glaus homer was a no doubter right off the bat. Most exciting moment for me was with a 1-0 count on Thompson watching La Russa summon Yadi from the bullpen (!) to take the at bat. The drama of that trot in from right field was priceless. What followed was almost anticlimactic as Black answered as best he could figure. I think pitching to Yadi was fruitless there as well. When Miles hit the fly ball I knew game over, so clearing the fence was almost an after thought. What a win.

by Secret Weapon on Jul 20, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you are the secret weapon

you should have been watching from the 3rd base coach box.

Jose,
You truly are amazing if you can be in the first row and coach our base runners as well

by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 20, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what can I say

if you recall I did pitch and play right field at the same time once.

by Secret Weapon on Jul 20, 2008 6:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we can win 2 of 4 against the Brewers i'd be happy

Sucks that we don’t miss Sheets nor Sabathia

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 20, 2008 6:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's a four game set

you can’t really complain a whole lot. we kind of get lucky with our own rotation in that our currently “empty” spot will not come up in the series.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, hey there, elephant!

So… After the great walk off win… what do we need to do with izzy? DL again? Just not let him pitch in the ninth ever again?

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by Alxfritz on Jul 20, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He should be put on the DL

then given a full 30 day rehab assignment and not return until September. When we then have the bullpen to absorb it, he can come up and try to get some saves. I’d make him try to get the first two by pitching 3 innings in blowouts to finish the game.

If he survives that, maybe then put him back in, but as a playoff team…they need to start to consider KMac or Springer as the closer.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 20, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Franklin?

What do we do with him? He may not be a stud closer, but i think he has performed pretty well. Hell, no worse than the last few years of the roller coaster that has been Izzy.

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 9:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe.

honestly, they way i play it is you put your best pitcher in when the situation demands it. i know that trevor hoffman is the padres “closer” but he should have been in there in the 9th, especially after the first guy got on base. i’ve never much been a fan of only using a guy when you closely lead because he is your closer. wouldn’t it be just as valuable to use hoffman in the 9th and shut down the cards and keep the game tied and give the padres a chance to take a lead in the 10th?

by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

um, instead of pictures?

cause i have those 2

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the title is fine for me

but everyone’s avatar is screwed up which is too bad because mine is erin andrews : P

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 7:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's a server issue

it’s sbnation wide

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by Alxfritz on Jul 20, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i can't watch

but i’d love updates!

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well no one can watch

but carp just had a 10 pitch inning.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice.

love that!

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
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by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Springfield Announcer just said

that Carpenter was on his way back to rehab last year and they decided to take another look at his shoulder and just go ahead with Tommy John surgery.

If I didn’t think Paletta was already incompetent.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 20, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i WISH i could be watching this game

is anyone actually seeing it?
i hate relying on gameday to know how his pitches look….

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by Molina4MVP on Jul 20, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What's Carp's pitch count tonight?

Anyone know?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm

I don’t like that “unless he feels good” caveat

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, it probably means

if he is laboring with the bases loaded in the 5th, they’ll pull him after 60. If it is 58 pitches before the start of the 5th, they’ll give him the whole inning (or 70 pitches).

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 20, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a little better

But I’d rather they be as strict with him as possible

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not concerned about his elbow tonight

it’s tomorrow morning I’m wondering about. His problem before surgery #2 of 2007 was the massive postgame swelling.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 20, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point.

they should probably set a limit pregame, and then play it by ear if he hurts before that. Then take him out early.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the radio guys keep talking about the crowd

i guess they come out in full force for rehab starts.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

or if the broadcaster could talk about how he looks instead of just calling the game.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a shame this isn't against the Astros Midwest team

we might have gotten this game on FSN Regional channels. They had a Springfield game on earlier this year.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 20, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This opposing pitcher's name is Rowdy

They oughtta rough him up just for that….

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 20, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Touching 120

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what?!?!

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Steady 115-118, he’s hit 120 a couple of times

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are basing those readings on the stadium gun

they said between innings that Andy Benes is scouting the game and he said the stadium gun is SLOW by 5-6 mph.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 20, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah

I didn’t hear that, I thought those sounded a little low

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not bad at all...

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sweet

I was hoping he would be turned into a cyborg, this confirms it

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 20, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok.

I will admit, I have been a pessimist when it comes to Carpenter.
Whenever anyone says something about “Carp will be back in august” or something of the ilk, i always want to scream that TJ surjery takes too long to come back from and we shouldn’t even whisper his name this year. I hate the thinking that he is some asset that we will be able to count on in any way whatsoever this year.
That is how i feel.
Or at least, FELT until I saw that first inning on gameday. All of a sudden I have had flashes of Carp winning the world series for us in a masterful game 4 perfect game that completes our sweep….
Now i want him in the rotation in 5 days.

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by Molina4MVP on Jul 20, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you are a cardinals fan.

having bad thoughts about our pitching is all part of the game. no problems there. Good to hear he’s looking good.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is the radio feed waaayyy behind Gameday for anyone else?

On the radio the top of the inning just ended, but on Gameday there are two on with one out in the bottom of the inning.

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 20, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your feed must suck

the one hardcore posted up there is right on with the gameday link posted up there.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm using that jock 98.7 link

I just realized that for some reason it was looping back the start of the broadcast (at least when I turned it on) periodically. I just re-started it and now it’s caught up. Dunno what was going on….

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 20, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is it the "I'm a ball player" commercial?

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha.

no one can identify you from your voice.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no it doesn't

but still cool nevertheless with the radio call.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't really find that entertaining

Ignorant would be a better word

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 20, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow.

they’re a special bunch, huh.
I guess if I had to endure their century of suckitude, I’d be special too.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is my fav.

“To be honest I’d rather have the cardinals make the playoffs than the Brewers
We are head over heels better than the cardinals in terms of talent and would easily beat that team head to head. The Brewers are a team we always struggle with”-BCB

Bring it tiny bears…if you can make it through the rest of the season.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 20, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so they keep saying the place is sold out

how many fans do you think will make a beeline for the exits once carp comes out?

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 20, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lots

Springfield isn’t very exciting this year except for when Jess Todd is pitching. Jon Jay and Allen Craig are the only exciting position players on that team, imo.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 20, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Control is definitely a bit rusty

to be expected after not pitching in live games for so long.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 20, 2008 7:32 PM EDT