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Game 99 Open Thread- 19th July, 2008

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    Randy Wolf          Col. Wellemeyer

6-9, 4.66                 7-4, 4.04

It's entirely possible that Randy Wolf could be a POI- Pitcher of Interest- to the Cardinals. They've been interested in his services before, most notable two years ago, before he signed a deal to play for the Los Angeles Dodgers. With the Padres out of the running, the Cards could look to Wolf as a guy who could come in and help shore up the back end of the rotation. Of course, he does have a no trade clause to about 14 teams, I think, and seems pretty set on playing on the left coast, so that might be a little complicated. Personally, I say no thanks. I think we have internal options who could provide what Wolf does quite easily.

The big story to watch for today from Wellemeyer, in my opinion, has to be his disappearing slider. Ever since he came back from his elbow troubles, the slider simply hasn't been much of a weapon for the Colonel, unlike early this season. He had gotten by with just FB/SL the first couple of months, because both were just so dominating. Such has not been the case in more recent days. He did throw some encouraging spinners in his last outing, though, so maybe the feel for the pitch is coming back around. We can only hope.

Go Cards!

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no thanks on randy wolf

we have in-house options that can provide the same as what he has to offer, like you said.

as for wellemeyer, i really hope he has one of his better outings today. he really needs to get it going again.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

kenny albert again.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nevermind

we get matt vasgersian….the padres announcer? wtf?

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure he's decent as a "neutral" national announcer...

but hearing him call games on the Padres’ network is painful. He gets a little over the top from time to time.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 19, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually, you are correct

he’s pretty decent doing football games and college football for FOX. and come to think of it, dan and al have done a couple games for a national broadcast over the years.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"theres only one october"

that slogan again this year. ugh.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there is only one november

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Skippy and lefties

OMG….i knew it was bad, but i just looked it up. He has a .421 OPS against lefties this season.

thats beyond pathetic. Today is when Mather should be starting and Duncan should be in the minors.

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Jul 19, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

that’s just awful. this would’ve been a perfect day for crabman.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was painful to watch

Especially when he got to Izturis: “one of the top shortstops in the game, always has been.”

by jdub176 on Jul 19, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

riiiiiiight

he’s also very gay on ankiel.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Jaime going to pitch today?

Or is he scheduled tomorrow?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow...

the deke actually worked…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 19, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wellemeyer once again, looks bad

Something is definitely wrong with him

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i was about to say something. tlr needs to have a QUICK hook today. is thompson still back there in the ‘pen?

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thompson isn't available today most likely

not sure who will be coming in in the 3rd when Wellemeyer inevitably gets yanked.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah

i forgot blooper sucked last night.

it’s probaly gunna have to be jiminez then.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is painful to watch

Wellemeyer has nothing at all

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

It was slightly difficult, but any major league CFer should catch it with ease

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shannon said it was hammered

almost like it was leaving the yard and then he said it sliced away from the CF.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 19, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was hard hit and was slicing

but it was still a very very catchable ball for a major league center fielder. So much so that they gave Ankiel an error even though he never touched the ball.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

shit

still some RA adventures the past couple of nights.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wellemeyer = dead arm or what?

I don’t think it’s his elbow.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate it

when GameDay puts up “In play, run(s)”, then freezes up.

by punditmoi on Jul 19, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all you on gameday

i guess the cards game didn’t get shot to many people today?

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For some strange reason

we don’t get many Cardinals games in New Mexico.

by punditmoi on Jul 19, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

D-backs, Rockies

mostly. There are a lot of Dodger fans in town because the Dukes were their tripleA team, back in the day. I don’t think the Marlins have picked up a great many fans out here with the Isotopes, just yet. Too much territory between us and the mother team.

by punditmoi on Jul 19, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how his elbow is

he is wearing that sleeve now and seems to get no elevation on the ball.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 19, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

short on line drives the past 3 days.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im rooting for gameday

as much as the cards, please work

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here comes an Ankiel strikeout

soft tossing lefty = bad

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or a popup

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or a mistake pitch homerun

he is good at that

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

missed opportunity there.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

something's not right

wellemeyer needs to come out before this game gets out of hand.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he just doesn't have it...

he hit a wall and it isn’t giving…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 19, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you are an infielder

you have to fear for your life today. These balls are coming through the infield at 150 mph.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 19, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope Jiminez learned something in last few weeks...

... either way, we’re gonna find out early in this one.

so who takes Welly’s roster spot when he goes on the DL? Boggs?

by kindred on Jul 19, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't care

you don’t leave an injured pitcher in to take a beating

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it gets to 7 or 8-zip

then i don’t care. he can leave ‘em in there but right now he needs to get ‘em outta there for the purpose of still being able to come back and win the game.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like i said

he’s going to fight to get ‘em through the five innings.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they said hes hitting 93-94

so its mechanichal

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dammit

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i fail to see how he can hit 93-94

that he can be hurt?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

he def hasnt been himself since coming back, but as I said then he should have had a rehab start or two. Everytime a guy misses doesnt mean he’s hurt, but doesnt mean he is not either..Several on here had mentioned his approach looked “timid” since coming back..Im just thinking perhaps its mental..but then again he could be hurting very much

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

take 'em out NOW

so we can still come back.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we aren't coming back

this is going to be a game where we give up double digit runs

the only option left in the pen to do long relief is Jimenez

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jiminez

relief? haha

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh ye of little faith

we scored double digit runs last night.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we can get 5

dont know if they socre much more

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

geez

and Edgar V. Gonzalez could be our 2B this year…

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Jul 19, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's important to understand

just how bad a defensive player he is—like epic, bad. He’d hit more than either Miles or Kennedy but there’s a reason he has so few major league PAs.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i can't watch the game

is welle just missing or is he just sucking?

by riotmute on Jul 19, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he looks hurt.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ballgame

This type of thing should never happen against a team like the Pads

by buzzburton33 on Jul 19, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Watching this on game day ....Is it as bad as it looks?

Looks like the Colonel needs some time off…

mean c'mon Walking the pitcher and then pitching around a light hitting 2B to give up a dinger?

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Jul 19, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's been ahead of 4

of 12 batters he’s faced. At least 2 of the 4 to whom he’s thrown first pitch strikes have hit the first pitch into play. I’m following on gameday but it seems pretty bad—worse yet that he’s been pretty bad in 5 of his last 6 starts.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Wellemeyer is batting for himself

hilarious TLR

unreal

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

like i said

he’s going to get through five whether you like it or not.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

might as well take one loss

than burn up our bullpen to take 2.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sacrificing this game to the baseball gods

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm off to cut the grass...

this is not going to end well…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 19, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its ends bad for the grass too

getting their little green heads chopped shorter

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

amen

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Jul 19, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

atta boy welly!

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

do announcers focus this much on the heat

in other stadiums? Do the Diamondback commentators talk about anything else? I mean, okay, we understand, it’s hot. Move on.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh yea.

forgot.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's be realistic

It’s Todd Wellemeyer. There’s a reason why he was thrown on the trash heap by the Royals. As good as he was in the first half, there have been far worse pitchers who have had better first halves than Welley. Part of him getting pounded is a regression to the mean, the other half is that his UCL is probably hanging on by about three fibers.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 19, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't believe that this is regression

as has been pointed out here many times, he’s throwing many more strikes now than he did w/ the Royals or ever before. Even in the slump that he’s in, he’s throwing 63% of his pitches for strikes. He hasn’t reverted to form. There’s something else going on and I’m inclined to believe it is directly related to the sore elbow he’s experienced.

He’s also thrown more innings this year than in any previous major league season so that’s a concern as well but he’s not doing the same things he was doing before he arrived—throwing balls all the time and walking people (this game excepted).

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yet was cruising til he got hurt

its either mechanical or hes still hurt. I dont buy your explanation

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I don't buy that

He was amazing, he got injured, now he sucks.

Logic would indicate that the injury is what has resulted in his current suckitude

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

suckitude

is a wonderful word.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Caleb Pfeiffer at BP

in today’s column referred to the Cards’ SS position as “the vortex of suck!” I think that’s hilarious!

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in chi one yr on espn radio talkign about

the sox infield called it the festival of suck

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually correlation does not imply causation

I didn’t say that all of his problems were related to him regressing to the mean, but I do believe they are part of it. The other half is the fact that he’s probably going to need TJ surgery sooner rather than later. Causes can be multifold.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh.. shoot.

the inevitable regression of Welly to mediocrity.

by KeepOnRolen on Jul 19, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looking Great today!

Course, I just turned it on and saw three pitches…one of the the play by Glaus. What’d you guys do while I was gone, I see they got 5. :)

by stlfan on Jul 19, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I gotta think that Welley is experiencing what happened to Loop last year.

He seems worn out. All I’m watching is gameday but I get the feeling his arm is tired.

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Jul 19, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just tuned in

and it looks like Welly has his usual nasty nast working already!

by NattyNat on Jul 19, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

way to take one for the team

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You have to wonder if it may be a little more than fatigue

his breaking pitches have just been flat his last few starts, almost looks like a mechanical issue

by NattyNat on Jul 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

already been beaten to death

we’ve decided that he is still injured

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and there is the 2 you meant

why Skip starts against LHP is beyond me

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was him or Duncan

I stick with Skip, personally

by voltronchris on Jul 19, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the 130 something against lefties

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, I forgot that Barton is injured

Bring up Mather and put Wellemeyer on the DL then stop playing Skip against LHP

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mather was up!

But they sent him down when they thought they needed an extra pitcher. We do need another righty outfielder BAD though

by voltronchris on Jul 19, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those burger king hot zone things are pretty cool.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

.684 up in the middle of the zone? wow.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 19, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wolf

has had 2 fastballs at 92 in this PA and went 68 w/ the curve. Pretty damned good!

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A stat to make everyone feel better

Kosuke Fukudome since May 5th: .241 .348 .356.

Fukudome on the year: .276 .379 .403
Skip Schumaker: .294 .358 .428

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 19, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they are paying

for the name…its just fun to say

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was reading some stuff about Ichiro the other day

and it turns out that he’s been only marginally better than Skip this year.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

id still take Ichiro

as long as the MS pay that contract

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wonder how Padres fans feel now?

When they lost out on the Fukudome sweepstakes to the Cubs, they were pretty devastated.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

24 mph difference

between FB and curve. Not sad—that’s damned good pitching.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is

it’s just rare for a pitcher to actually fool Pujols

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but thats not the way you put it

you said his garbage and sad…even though wolf has had a decent yr..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's been pretty awful

away from Petco but he seems to have it all today.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, are we just not making a trade this year?

Seems like that should have happened/gotten started by now.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel like we should have at least HEARD something...

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its the same thing

the last few yrs.. be mentioned in the big names, and either stand pat or go dumpster diving.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

I’m glad Tony stuck w/ Wellemeyer. We need to get some innings from him and maybe he’s settled down.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like he's settled down.

Don’t look now, but he was even throwing an effective slider that half inning.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great

now he’ll get another start instead of spending much needed time on the DL getting his arm fixed

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you think if there was a health issue

Dave Duncan would take him out?

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

how this question’s gonna be answered…

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

did you pay attention to the Mulder situation at all?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was taken out after less than an inning in his last start.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fact that he even started that game

is what i’m talking about.

If his shoulder was in such disarray that he couldn’t get through 3 batters, he shouldn’t of even started the game.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

But they did take him out. My point was, that if there was something seriously wrong with Welly, they’d take him out. Seems like he has since gotten better. So, maybe he just had the jitters first inning. It happened to Lohse just a few days ago. Granted, Welly’s pitches were worse.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's an injury

Just think he’s out of whack and not trusting his stuff. Mental things that can get straightened out in the middle of a game. I’m guessing he’s got it back, but we’ll see over the next few innings.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he definitely

needs to have that elbow looked at again.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

he’s only at 56 pitches. I was working at the start of the game, but it looks like he was efficiently ineffective the first few innings.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a nice half inning

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

15 of 20 pitches

thrown by Wellemeyer the last 2 innings have been strikes—big change from the 1st 2.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What's more infuriating?

That Randy Wolf is dominating us or that he is increasing his standing with our FO with every pitch?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 19, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Iz2...

you’re batting righty…get it done. We need a run on the board.

and as I type this…damn, lineout to 2nd.

by stlfan on Jul 19, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Edgar V. Gonzalez

flashing the leather.

Me: mixing up a pitcher of margaritas.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good

play to your strengths

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recipe:

one can Minute Maid Lime-ade
one can full cheap tequila
half can of triple sec
ice to fill the blender

The battle between sobriety and heat fatigue ended in a tie.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Margarita

is Spanish for Franklin.

by punditmoi on Jul 19, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no. one out. Skip walked.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wellemeyer

why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that he’s “obviously” hurt? couldn’t it be that maybe….just maybe….he’s coming down to earth? or perhaps he’s just slumping? pitchers can slump, too.

by bigJOE1 on Jul 19, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why is he slumping if he's not hurt?

as I said earlier, he’s still throwing strikes at the same rate he did earlier in the year. Is it bad luck - a high BABIP? I’ll look it up. HR’s up? I don’t think so but I’ll check. The only thing I’ve found is that he’s throwing fewer FBs than earlier in the year - strange for someone w/ a sore elbow.

But let’s be honest - he stinks and says his elbow hurts. They rest him and 4 of his next 5 starts are not good at all - 2 were terrible. There’s reason to be suspicious re: the elbow.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He says his elbow doesn't hurt

Horton was saying that he insists nothing’s physically wrong.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

let's give him an MRI

just to be sure. Can’t hurt, right?

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, can't hurt.

Although Azru may disagree.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he can't slump and not be hurt?

people go into slumps all the time and aren’t injured. it’s baseball. and we’re talking about todd wellemeyer here…...who’s had like 3 mos of good baseball in his career….and it happens to be the last 3 months lol. i appreciate the great start, but expecting it to stay that way was being a little over hopeful. hopefully, he comes back around.

by bigJOE1 on Jul 19, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I miss our pitcher

that can be used as pinch hitter
.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do the Padres

always swing at this many first pitches? Is it possible Wellemeyer’s tipping his pitches?

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was working the blender, but what I saw of him looked good again in that inning. From gameday, he pitched carefully to Giles and had some pretty good borderline pitches. (Not the last one, though).

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giles is tremendous

at taking walks. I don’t fault him for that.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i feel strangely optimistic about this game.

as long as we get 2 runs this inning.
i think we can do it.
welley will lead off with a HR…

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Jul 19, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if we can get Wellemeyer

through 7 (possible at the rate he’s going), I’d consider it quite an accomplishment considering the way it started. Win expectancy’s at around 7% so I’m not at all optimistic we’ll win, but this could have turned out worse (he says, afraid of angering the baseball gods).

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

win expectancy can eat me.

i watched the pirates game last saturday.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Jul 19, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That game was a necessary sacrifice

to make Win Expectancy more accurate for future generations.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so is this one.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Jul 19, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waiting for the offense

to give me cause for optimism, last night’s explosion aside.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a pitch like that

I miss Vina.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The sad thing is

with as bad as Welle pitched….

If Ankiel makes that catch in CF and Brendan Ryan doesn’t botch a DP

This is a 0-0 game still.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yay

giants up 2-1 on brewers.
i really like that jonathan sanchez kid for the giants.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Jul 19, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow.

Is he miked? That was really audible.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Presto!!!!!

Wellemeyer’s BABIP’s by month:

April - .274
May - .228 (ridiculously low, untenably low!)
June - .311
July - .374 (ridiculously high, untenably high!!!!)

Maybe he’s tipping his pitches. There seems to be a lot of bad luck. Maybe there is some reason for optimism.

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well , that's good to see

still not convinced he’s healthy, but maybe there is something to those stats

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Find it a little hard to believe

Will the Thrill and Jimmy Ballgame taught Pujols the fine art of picking that sort of thing up. If a Cardinal pitcher were doing it, I think we’d know it before anyone else.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bases Juiced for the Pu

He has been bad in this situation thus far this year

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

albert

is he still hitting .000 with bases loaded this year?

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Jul 19, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

0 for 5

let’s not hang ourselves!

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whew

i had the shoelaces ready

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

slump

with bases loaded over

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, god...

Good bye fingernails.

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Pujols

time to regress to your beautiful, beautiful mean with RISP.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

time to get back in this game

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ALBERT IS THE MANG

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 19, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BEAUTIFUL!!!!!

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yup. optimistic.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Jul 19, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you now

That was gorgeous.

by liam on Jul 19, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad he's on our side.

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Jul 19, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gameday was so far behind

had to really wait for the good news

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 19, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Atta boy!

now can we stop w/ the “Albert just hasn’t been a good clutch player” stuff!

by chuckb on Jul 19, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

ya right theres always a few..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Santa

We’ve been good!

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out on the field and it's one big glove. " -Vance Law.
go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 19, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shannon

“Ludwick was carrying the mail.”

by peach concrete on Jul 19, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that Randy Wolf or Kip Wells?

Maybe wolf just lost that competetive spirit being up by five, so he decided to do a Wells implosion to make things a bit more interesting.

by NattyNat on Jul 19, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wellemeyer's ok now?

i guess he’s not hurt now that he’s been coasting for the last few innings, eh?

by bigJOE1 on Jul 19, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I leave to cut the grass: 5-0 Padres...

I come back: 6-5 Cardinals…maybe I should leave again, no?

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 19, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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