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Game 97 Open Thread: July 17 2008

San Diego Padres at St. Louis Cardinals, Jul 17, 2008 8:15 PM EDT


peavy lohse
7-5, 2.47 11-2, 3.39

somehow it has escaped everyone's notice that nick stavinoha, the lone st louis farmhand in last night's triple A all-star game, launched a 9th-inning comeback for the PCL stars. with his team down 2-0, he led off with a single against blaine neal (an olympic team pitcher) and came around to score the first of 6 PCL runs in the inning. milwaukee prospect luis pena pert near blew it in the bottom of the 9th, giving up 3 runs but hanging on to close out a 6-5 PCL win. way to go, nick.

jake peavy is one of only 3 pitchers who has a cumulative ERA under 3.00 over the last 5 years, ie since the beginning of 2004 (minimum 50 starts). the other two are roger clemens and johan santana. chris carpenter ranks 4th on that list, with a 3.15 overall ERA; smoltz, sheets, harden, halladay, zambrano, and webb round out the top 10.

if he wins his next 2 decisions, lohse will have 10 Ws in a row. anybody know the last st louis pitcher to achieve that? (i don't know the answer . . . . )

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For those with Extra Innings from InDemand

tonight, for some reason, we get the home and away feeds of all games (just like DirectTV) except the Cardinals game.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 7:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think it's because our game is in HD

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 17, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

InDemand EI

hates Padres broadcasts for some reason. their home broadcasts are rarely ever shown. it also doesn’t show the A’s home broadcasts much, either.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Jul 17, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

looking at the rest of the July schedule, it looks like InDemand is going to continue to offer “dual feeds” for the rest of the year whenever there are free channels. good news for us cable chumps.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Jul 17, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gibby won 12 straight games

from June 2, 1968 to July 30, 1968.

I’m not checking anyone else. :D

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I lied

I did check.

Gibby won 10 straight from May 23, 1970 to July 5, 1970.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And 11 straight

from May 25, 1972 to Jul 21, 1972.

Apparently, you didn’t want to catch Gibby from late May until late July.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tudor, 1985.

Not checking. Just guessing.

by Youneverknow on Jul 17, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

the question allows for non-decisions along the way, and Tudor did win 11 straight decisions - his last 11 of the year - in 1985. He went from 10-8 to 21-8.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=tudorjo01&t=p&year=1985

by DCGreg on Jul 17, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, well...if that is the case

then I’d say Carpenter in 2005 winning 13 straight without a loss.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carp won 8 straight

in 2005, then took a no-decision pitching 8 innings in a game we won 5-3 on a 9th inning Eckstein grand slam…then won his next 2 starts.

Then he took another no decision, pitching 8 innings in a game we won 5-4 on a 5 run 9th inning. He then won his next 4 starts.

So, if he could have gone 1 more inning in each of those 2 games, he have won 16 straight.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Line ups

Cardinals

Schumaker rf
Miles 2b
Pujols 1b
Ankiel cf
Glaus 3b
Duncan lf
Molina c
Lohse p
Izturis ss

Padres

Gerut cf
E. Gonzalez 2b
Giles rf
A.Gonzalez 1b
Kouzmanoff 3b
Headley lf
Greene ss
Carlin c
Peavy p

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm fine with that.....

I’ve already seen the whining about Duncan/Lud and Miles in the other thread. Doubt any of those people looked up each batters’ success against Peavy. Doubt any of those people know if Luddy maybe wasn’t feeling great. I’m sure the ASG for a 1st timer, can be exhausting. Who knows. I know that TLR is right more than he is wrong when he does stuff like this though. And Duncan is hot. Heck, might even be show casing him some.

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 17, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles.....

Hits Peavy pretty well. 3-10, and obp of nearly .400.

Neither Luddy or Duncan have many AB’s against him, but Duncan has slightly better numbers. Probably just playing the odds. I don’t know the lefty/righty split for Peavy.

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 17, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

neither Ludwick nor Duncan

have many AB’s and yet you’re getting excited about Miles b/c he has 10 whole AB’s against him? 10 AB’s is nothing.

by chuckb on Jul 17, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The whinning

I was the only person that said anything and I wasn’t whinning. But, please, continue your arrogant tone. It hasn’t become grating yet in the least.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blah, blah.....

And thinking YOU know the lineup that should be played everynight, over a HOF manager, is silly. 9 out of 10 nights, you have a complaint. Talk about grating.

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 17, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nailed it

You are very good at this!

I can see the lineup criticism is a pet peeve of yours, you’ve made the negative comments about other’s opinions on the matter 6 out of 7 times a week but try not to be so smug about it. This is a community, online be that it may, and we all have different opinions. No need to dismiss other people’s opinions as ‘arm chair managing’, ‘whining’, etc.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard not too.....

When all you do is take digs at TLR. You may not agree with everything he does, but he a) has a reason, and b) has been pretty darn good at winning games. If you feel the need to suggest TLR is incompetent every day when the lineups come out, I’m probably going to feel the need to call you on it. Not like I’m calling you an idiot. I just said it gets old.

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 17, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

since it was asked about...

Cards that hit Peavy well (.750+ OPS) are:
Glaus 1.334
Pujols 1.241
Miles 1.064
Duncan .750

The first three have double digit at bats against Peavy, Duncan has had success in only 4 at bats.

Padres that hit Lohse well are:
Khalil Greene 1.000
Jake Peavy 1.000
Jody Gerut .967
Brian Giles .804

Only Gerut has more than 7 at bats vs. Lohse out of those four people, at 25.

by stlfan on Jul 17, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What ingredients make up a ludwich?

Rye or wheat?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To get lefties in the lineup against Peavy, I'd imagine

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on Jul 17, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phillies acquire Joe Blanton

The Phillies have reached an agreement with the Oakland Athletics to acquire right-handed pitcher Joe Blanton. Blanton is 5-12 this season after going 14-10 with a 3.95 ERA last season.

The Athletics get second baseman Adrian Cardenas, pitcher Josh Outman and outfielder Matthew Spencer, all minor leaguers.

http://tinyurl.com/5m6oeb

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 17, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By the lack of comments

You guys are unimpressed as I am. The only thing Blanton is leading the league in is losses

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 17, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most intriguing thing to me

Maybe the A’s will let Outman go back to his old delivery. It was something to behold.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 17, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With acquiring Patterson than Cardenas

It makes it pretty clear the A’s will not be pursuing Ellis next year.

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 17, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully we won't be either

Not impressed by Ellis in the slightest.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd prefer not to have another defensive specialist in the middle infield

i’ll take someone who can actually hit.

I fail to see how Mark Ellis is much of an improvement over Adam Kennedy.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis

while having a down year still has been a much better hitter than Kennedy and he’s definitely better defensively. He’s also a year and a half younger than Kennedy. It’s not a huge upgrade, but he is definitely better than both Miles and Kennedy.

I’m not advocating for him. In fact, I’m really starting to warm to the idea of trading for Grudzielanek, but Ellis is most definitely better than Adam Kennedy.

by chuckb on Jul 17, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I think trading for grudz would be a great move.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's got a lot more power

and he hits RH. He’d be worth about 2-3 wins over kennedy offensively in a season, if both hit like his career average, and 4 or 5 if AK hits like he did last year (and through May of this year) and we wouldn’t lose much in terms of defense. Platooned with AK he could be worth even more.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like Billy Beane

did quite well for a pretty average SP.

by chuckb on Jul 17, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again

you have to wonder what we could get for Lohse. If only Wainwright and Carpenter were 100% healthy, it wouldn’t even be a question in dealing him.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or Looper

and re-sign lohse.

If only carpenter had had his TJ surgery in April…

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you really think

we could get much for Looper? I just don’t. Maybe I’m wrong, though we’re not even going to find out. If you’re right, we should take it and run.

by chuckb on Jul 17, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We probably couldn't do as well for Lohse

Blanton isn’t a FA till after 2010. Lohse would be a rental.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 17, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all a matter of durability

Even though this is only his second season as a starting pitcher, he can give you reliable innings as a #5 guy. If Joe Blanton netted the returns he did, imagine what Looper could get.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he may be a better pitcher than blanton

right now, but I didn’t realize blanton was signed for 2 more years, which makes blanton more valuable (unless he’s hurt).

Still, he should be on the market. I can’t believe the Phillies traded Cardenas for Blanton, PLUS 2 other guys.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't see

Looper as having much trade value. Lohse, yes. Blanton, yes (for the reason you state). But I can’t see getting much, if anything, for Looper.

by chuckb on Jul 17, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

baseball and music

I’m a huge fan of the ancient punk/metal/experimental band The Melvins. I just found a quote from the main man, King Buzzo: “I pretty much love baseball and could care less about watching all other sports. Sabermetrics changed my outlook on baseball and made me love it even more. It’s pretty much right on as far as I can tell.”

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True for me

It made me love stats which kind of pushed me into getting a minor in Statistics in college which I used in my Econ degree.

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 17, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's funny

I didn’t even know about sabermetrics until this season. no one seems to talk about it much besides on here. I take it fangraphs is the way to go to learn more about it?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Melvins are good stuff

especially if you get what they are doing. I’ve seen them live at least 6 times, and each time is kinda different

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

read

Baseball Between the Numbers and The Book. Read sites like Baseball Prospectus (subscription required) and The Hardball Times (free).

Fangraphs is unbelievable for numbers but it doesn’t have a ton of analysis. You’ll get the info but not the explanations behind the info. Use it, but use the others for learning.

by chuckb on Jul 17, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool, thanks man

I’ll get one of those books and check out the free site. the only baseball books I’ve read were when I was much younger, the Bob Gibson biography and ‘White Rat’

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw The Melvins once at NIU

Opened up for Primus in the Duke Ellington Ballroom. Can’t say I remember a single thing about The Melvins, though.

by Tackle Box on Jul 17, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why

is brian barden not being called up? There is no way he would hit any worse than any of our shortstops.

by carc13 on Jul 17, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's awesome

i had no idea. What a great opportunity for him.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

terrible defensively

though I can’t imagine he’s any worse than Miles at shortstop.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terrible?

Player+PO+A++E+DP+FP+RfG
Barden+131+226+11+56+.970+4.35
CIzturis+82+199+8+37+.972+4.63

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barden's not a SS

he can play there in a pinch (and probably better than Miles) but he’s not an everyday SS.

by chuckb on Jul 17, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't disagree

but I don’t think his defense would make him that much less valuable than Izturis, even if in a platoon when you factor in how much better he is offensively.

The problem is, you can’t platoon these two as they both hit LHP. I mean, Barden is an improvement over Izturis vs RHP but not a world beater.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the problem is

we’ve got so many of these utility guys who do a little of this and are terrible at that, and we’re trying to mix-and-match to make it work. We’ve got 4-5 guys right now doing the work of two. It would be nice to have a legitimate 2B and SS as starters.

by chuckb on Jul 17, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You ain't kidding

I’d settle for Grudz at 2B, Izturis at SS, Ryan and Miles as the utility IF’ers.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kennedy is better than Miles once you factor in defense...

Kennedy has actually been above average according to Dial over at BBTF…

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 17, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the 150 OPS+ in July so far has helped

he’s all the way up to low 80’s in season OPS+ now, which is remarkable considering how slow he started. it would be huge if he kept it up 2 more months (or 3!)

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bit more flexibility yes

But give me the better player. Especially when there’d be a righty counterpart in Ryan.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 17, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Revenge game for Edgar Gonzalez?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

About as revenge worthy as OJ looking for the real killers

To use a Bill Simmons joke.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 17, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a free preview week?

Because Extra Innings is doing that crap they do during the beginning of the season.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn it Hardcore

You got my hopes up!

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Are you on DirecTV? I have Charter

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

I’m on Comcast. I’m getting the free preview even though I already pay for it.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto...

here in KC on Comcast.

by stlfan on Jul 17, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god i hate steak and shake commercials so much

give me baseball

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Morning, guys. Bad news from Bangkok - some sort of religious holiday - bars shut down, and girls behind lock and key for next two days. Need some good news here. Let's go Birds

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If we didn't already have a pretty good 1b

I’d love to have this guy. He can really play!

by chuckb on Jul 17, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i love watching albert and yadi work together on the pickoff

its beautiful

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dammit

i really didnt think they would score

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

going to have to come back

and win tonight

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's always a good thing to spot Jake Peavy a run

before he even takes the hill.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hopeless Jake is just as rusty :)

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap - KL been behind every batter. Now team behind, too

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can't locate anything

besides the heater.

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank god pujols

solid play

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At this rate we'll be in the pen in the 4th. Not excactly what I had in mind

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im sure lohse will get it together

we need him

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why are there only 4 MLB games today?

after 3 days off?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather see Miles leadoff

and Skip bat second

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the right fielder cant handle

miles’ grit ball

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's going to be a long

loooooooooooooong night

is it just me, or is the all star break getting shorter & shorter? i dont know about you, but i really could have used another day or two off.

and from the looks of it, so could Lohse

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or maybe Lohse didn't need any time off

he was on a roll

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santana getting roughed up in Cincy - two homeruns, 3 in and two on base

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ankiel = completely overmatched

i’m surprised he even made contact with one pitch.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

didn't swing at a strike

until the fifth pitch

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rick would be so freaking dangerious

if he ever stopped laying off the junk in the dirt

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and one run may be all Peavy needs

I don’t think he’s given up a run in his past 2 starts

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

That’s a nice development

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Peavy owns Lohse

another hit

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

if he doesn’t make it, maybe we need bonds and clemens!

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 17, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

best place to do it

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we still have strings on McGwire? Might be able to talk Canseco out of retirement while we're at it.

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SANTA TIES IT UP

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Santa!

Still hot… excellent.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 17, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Santa Glaus is coming to town

way to tie it up big fella

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

XLNT

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

neither does jake

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 17, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GLAUS!!!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

with the limited numbers

Duncan actually had a slight edge against Peavy

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glaus is inching ever so closer to .300

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the season is like a mountain to him

he just keeps on climbing it

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't count on it

He’s not a .300 hitter

I’m just glad his power #’s are on track to his career norms

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by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just added him to my fantasy team

he was a FA for some reason. I can use him as a utility guy since I have Longoria starting (and yes, I did pick him during the draft).

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that run lasted a long time...

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TG has added surprisingly good D as well. Trade has worked well for Birds. Has Rolen done much in Toronto? Stats are ambiguous

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lohse doesn't have it today

giving up a HR to a career minor leaguer? ouch.

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by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EVG is a darn good hitter

People just didn’t think he could play second base in the major leagues (which he seems to be doing quite well…)

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by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lohse

having a reality check i’m afraid

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by sportsman on Jul 17, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no crooked numbers either

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's not an 11-2 pitcher

so “things” are likely to catch up with him the second half

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by sportsman on Jul 17, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

please provide your reasoning behind this

other than him “not being an 11-2 pitcher”

He hasn’t been lucky this year, so it’s not like he’s due for a collapse.

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by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What exactly is an "11-2 pitcher" anyways?

Peavy is a 7-5 pitcher, you’d rather have Lohse than him?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

11-2 linearly projects to 22-4

no big deal, it just seems to me he won’t end up at 22-4. more no decisions and more losses seems most likely. and yes, i’d rather have JP.

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by sportsman on Jul 17, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he starts slow sometimes

he’ll lock in next inning. but yeah, he’s due to not win soon

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, well why can't soon be november?

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mother of ass

revenge game indeed

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gonzalez family using gris gris againt Lohse today. Need an exorcism

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gee thank FSN for pimping that stupid golf tournment

because of that i have no idea what Albert just did, but i know it was good

keep up the good work boys*

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice - Koumanoff didn't run. Don't know that I've ever know of an unassisted 3 DP on a ground ball.

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he prob couldnt tell

if it was a liner or not

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

i was thinking the same thing

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

briefly - didn't have anything left - like his kid today.

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet

Box score from the day I was born right there.

by Phizzle on Jul 17, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

happy birthday?

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damnit

No, I wasn’t paying attention – I was born in ‘90

by Phizzle on Jul 17, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just watched the video of Glaus' HR

Terrible pitch by Peavy. Glaus is a professional hitter, he’ll murder that pitch every time.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

where's westcoast...

to argue that “professional hitter” descriptor?

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by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait for it...wait for it...

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santa -- 11 for his last 14

absolutely on fire as Marv Albert would say

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles!

Where the hell did that come from?

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

holy god what a play by miles

i can barely believe it

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn, Mni Me flashed the leather & arm right there

good play. damn good play

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crap - have lost audio. What happened?

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miles

Tracking down a ground up the middle on the SS side of the bag then throwing turning and throwing out the runner without setting.

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Pujols leads off another inning

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not like it mattered

he’d of just hit into a DP if anyone was on base

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by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks - in Cincy Tatis just hit a 2-run homer to put Mets on top and Cueto on the bench

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I swear to god, that Tatis is a different guy

Because our Fernando isn’t good at baseball.

by Phizzle on Jul 17, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there was something in the air that night, the stars where bright

Fernando hit it long into the night

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that NYM win streak

is becoming worrisome.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More worrisome for the Phillies than us

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the replay of pitch by pitch

had music from waynes world 2 in it

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by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pujols has a 1.241 OPS against Peavy

not too shabby

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by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ank says see you later

booyah

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dang it this blog is always faster than

mlbtv..

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by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wa an (Thai for "sweet"

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BACK TO BACK

GLAUS > PEAVY

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by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Santa!

Presents for everyone!

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wowowow

back to back, did not think we could jack this many dongs on jake

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

holy crap!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap, they're hitting them faster than i can type

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Peavy == completely overmatched

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by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I wouldn’t go that far. Troy is obviously very comfortable against Peavy, though…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 17, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santa -- 12 for his last 15

“ON FIRE”

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont liek that nick name

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glaus Claus

that better?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think it was me

i have him on my fantasy team and have for a bit..

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by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wa an wa an

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

apparently im not the only one with a matheny theory on rick

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by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i always htought what they are saying

and seemed like the only one..carlos hernandez sucked

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by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

duncan

man, i thought that was 3 in a row

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

now you know that just isn't possible

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well to be fair

He is Peavy. And he is facing Duncan.

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the reason glaus hit 2 out

hes sitting by grit

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by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice Yadi, be nice to send Peavy to the showers early . . .

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

making him work--good job, guys

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Just put him on 1st and have Kouz hit into a DP.

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so, odds on having 4 Cards w/30 HRs?

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pretty good

I would go with 4:1

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bet the farm

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edgar was at AAA Memphis...

for the past couple years, no?

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 17, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He tore

it up and never got a shot.

by chicagocardfan on Jul 17, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just last year...

to answer my own question.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 17, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only 1 year i think

reminds me of Brian Barden this year

Guy is raking and his defense is keeping him from getting a shot.

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by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what the hell is up with these quick half innings?

they’re like 1min long. wtf?

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

doesnt bother me

i hate the victor martinez commercial

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by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when you're trying to catch up on other games

and make a bathroom/fridge/ run, it gets annoying

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, how does Brian Giles know

we are going to throw it in off the plate 4 feet? He’s jumping all over pitches in his back pocket.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 17, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All three pitches that we hit for HRs were just begging to be destroyed

Peavy is better than that

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

doesnt kip wells pitches move a lot as well?

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah,

about 400 feet out.

by chicagocardfan on Jul 17, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

Speaking of Wells. Isn’t he facing springfield today?

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope. Yesterday.

6.2 IP 6 H 1 BB 8 Ks 2 ER

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume it's still from his blood clot from earlier this season

Could be wrong though

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats right.

Hadn’t thought about him in so long.

by chicagocardfan on Jul 17, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me neither

i just remember Dave & Tony saying one of the reasons he got in trouble here was because his pitches had to much “natural movement” to them

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by gdm426 on Jul 17, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always liked Kip Wells

I didn’t like him Pitching. But I’ve always liked him.

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The first one to Glaus was just a hanging slider or curve or somethin like that

The one to Ank was a dead fastball over the heart that missed his target by at least a foot, and the second one to Glaus looked like a 2-seamer that broke over the heart. Just three big mistakes

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 17, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and 3 home runs

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lohse: 30 pitches in the 1st

44 in 4 since. Great job, Kyle.

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by gocards62 on Jul 17, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's been good at buckling down

when he has a rough beginning to the game

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i doubt he resigns

cause of boras, if he doesnt i hope he tanks ala weava tired of seeign the birds help guys fix stuff and then they go get a ton of cash elsewhere..Womack,Weava,Etc…Womack wasnt fixed but given a chance

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by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lohse

was publicly upset at Boras about not being signed until spring training was almost over.

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

$$$

that boras will command will get him ove rthat and someone will sign barring a complete collapse..Yanks, somebody will overpay..Mariners are good at that too..

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by punchinjudy on Jul 17, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, that's his mo

but i just don’t get it. you are an $11M pitcher on a winning/competitive team or a $12M pitcher on a losing team. for an agent, his cut is just about the money. for the player its more a quality of life issue. don’t understand why at that level of compensation, a couple million seems inadequate to pay me to lose so often.

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by sportsman on Jul 17, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

when you’re already set for life, it’s insane to take a few dollars more to go somewhere that is going to be a miserable experience.

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by SleepyCA on Jul 17, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any other batter

and that’s a homerun

Iz2 has no power

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by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn

robbed the skip

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 17, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

That was a nice catch to rob skippy.

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a quick inning

big inning for Lohse coming up

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by Raconteur on Jul 17, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn Gonzos still using effective gris gris

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by akaitori on Jul 17, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Carp is pitching for Springfield on Sunday

Wagonmaker could start rehab in a week or so. But I doubt WW will need more than 1 game in the Minors.

by Evilfrog on Jul 17, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big dp

should get another inning out of lohse

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