Pitt 12, StL 11

worst loss ever

by adiueordie on Jul 12, 2008 10:52 PM EDT 0 recs

I feel like I want to vomit and cry at the same time

I’m going to cromit.

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 10:53 PM EDT 0 recs

isn't cromit

kermit’s lesser known cousin?

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hiho! Cromit the frog here.

Blughhhhh! Waaaaaaaah!

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

It ain't easy

bein’ pea-soup green.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

+1

I just cromitted a bit in my mouth.

by roebirds on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

at least the all star break might deaden the effect of this loss

i hope anyway, a month off might not

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 12, 2008 10:53 PM EDT 0 recs

well

that’ll teach me to turn off the game to watch “Sky High”

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:53 PM EDT 0 recs

Sky High is better than tonight's debacle

"There is one word in America that says it all, and that one word is, 'You never know.'" Joaquin Andujar

by Big Mike on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

It actually was

pretty darn watchable, which quite suprised me considering…well…it is “Sky High”

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

Good movie

I my kids love to watch that one! Lynda Carter as the principal is priceless, not to mention half of the Kids in the Hall.

by roebirds on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well...

if was the Japanese movie of the same name, about a serial killer who rips out the hearts of people, then it’s just like watching the game.

by DiscoJer on Jul 13, 2008 3:37 AM EDT up 0 recs

I just got a memo

From Bud Selig (I’m an insider). He said this will count for two losses in the standings.

by jdub176 on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT 0 recs

Fuentes time!!! Go get him MO!

mattnj

by mattnj on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT 0 recs

Trade Lohse and Ludwick

and blow this shit up. No point in trying to compete this year.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT 0 recs

that's the spirit

let’s give up! hooray!

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

this team is not good enough to make the post season

so why not get what you can for the valuable/tradeable commodities?

It’s being realistic and thinking for the long term best interest of the team.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

2006 team

didn’t look good enough to make the post-season a whole lot more often than this one.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

Devil's advocate

2006’s team was in first place pretty much the whole year

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:06 AM EDT up 0 recs

you always seem to think "realistically"

this team can make the postseason, they’ll just get swept out of the first round.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

5 game series has tons of variance

7 too

look at the 2006 season

FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG

by astrostl on Jul 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

this team can't make the postseason

not with this bullpen. their is 0 chance of it happening.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

i just don't like the idea of throwing in the towel

as a reaction to one game.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

same

it’s gonna take a stretch of poor play…the only problem is that will probably mean some of our players will start to play poorly (lohse, ludwick) and it may diminish their value a bit.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

if ever there is a time to not rag on pessimistic thinking

this is the night

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

not a reaction to one game

we have blown appx. 20 saves. this is cumulative.

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Jul 12, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

well

then we need to go get some bullpen help, not give up on the season. still a lotta games.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

21

There was a graphic on it on FSN

by craig3410 on Jul 12, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

better idea

trade duncan and reyes for some quality relievers. we’d have 60 wins right now if we had a dominant closer.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

bahahahaha

love reyes and like duncan, but they will not bring a “dominant closer”

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

It's not a closer problem

It’s an entire bullpen problem. Springer is the lone bright spot out there right now.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:08 AM EDT up 0 recs

Tomorrow's game

We should use a Piniero/Thompson tandem. Just take the bullpen out of the equation.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT 0 recs

totally

by adiueordie on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

even looper can pitch tommorrow

they’ve got three days off. looper could start the friday back and wellemeyer can start thursday.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

21 blown saves

I don’t have to tell you guys where we’d be if we had only won 1/2 of those… but I will. 62 wins. SIXTY FUCKING TWO!

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT 0 recs

That is the line of the season. Can you believe that!!!

We just need one good closer….Really!!!!

mattnj

by mattnj on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

will blow em’ as well…he goes through pretty ridiculous stretches of a few weeks where he has absolutely none of his stuff working for him. as a matter of fact he just got over one of those stretches.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

It's not just the closer

I’m serious. The entire bullpen (other than Springer) sucks right now. It’s the anti-2007.

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:09 AM EDT up 0 recs

how many games had multiple blown saves though? tonight we blew two.

by adiueordie on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

league avg. on save op is 79% or so

62 wins is conservative really.

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by gocards62 on Jul 12, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

What would it take to get a league average closer?

It’s not a LOOGY we need. It’s a dominant force. There is no-one I trust in this bullpen.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

I guess I should say it's not just a LOOGY we need.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

smack to the face

punch to the gut. kick in the groin…You name it. If this doesn’t wake up TLR, Dunc, MO, et al, that serious pitching help is needed now, this team won’t win 80 games. For all the tenacity this club shows at times, there’s only so much the human spirit can handle.

by 10worldchamps on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT 0 recs

We better win at least 80

I have money riding on it with a Cubs fan!

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

+1 on pitching help

Protection for Albert wasn’t the problem tonight. Tony.

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

Exactly why we need to call it a season and sell

Their are too many holes in this team.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

We'd win the wild card

if the season ended today.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

But the Cubs just got Harden

and, more importantly, the team chasing us got Sabathia.

by craig3410 on Jul 12, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up 0 recs

If you didn't notice

Harden threw one of his 5 inning, 95 pitch gems today and the cub bullpen blew a 7 run lead courtesy of Mr. Howry and Mr. Marmol.

by Tackle Box on Jul 13, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up 0 recs

and keep those coming

I just hope harden helps make that bullpen shitty too

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 12:43 AM EDT up 0 recs

Much more worried about MIL right now

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:10 AM EDT up 0 recs

why?

because you’re a no-confidence, salty, bandwagoner?

Pitchers Hit Eighth

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 13, 2008 5:10 AM EDT up 0 recs

key word

is “tonight”

Pitchers Hit Eighth

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 13, 2008 5:09 AM EDT up 0 recs

Well I bet TLR doesnt try to just get his pitchers 'work' anymore

no matter how big a lead is, just play things like u would any other day with the BP, I have not been a TLR advocate for a long time, but this takes the cake & Im tired of his bullshit when probably 2/3 of the people on this board could manage better than he does…start the bashing on me, but TLR sucks ass IMO, even though the players need to execute better as well.

by buzzburton33 on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT 0 recs

There's plenty of blame to be spread around

between the bullpen but I’m still frustrated/pissed that Miles didn’t turn the double play in the 9th.

by azruavatar on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT 0 recs

the double clutch had nothing to do with Doumit sliding in..he had time.

But we need a REAL FUCKING CLOSER!!! NOW!

mattnj

by mattnj on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

there's no excuse for him not turning that DP

i know you dont get an error for not turning it, but if ever a player was going to get a error for not turning one, it’d be Mini Me right there. Bay fell down & every thing. all he had to do was get it to Albert & the game is over

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

bingo

that’s ballgame if he makes the play (and he should have) and no one is bitching

Pitchers Hit Eighth

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 13, 2008 5:11 AM EDT up 0 recs

Is Chris Perez really the closer of the future?

He’s been unimpressive, to say the least

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT 0 recs

i think he's a bit out of his league

he has only one pitch he can throw with complete confidence and he sometimes can’t get control of thta one pitch. he needs to go back to memphis to work on a second pitch and his mechanics.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up 0 recs

He has nothing left to learn in the minors

He had his slider mastered down there.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

what the hell happened to his slider?

his first week up that thing was f’in nasty

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

no kidding

his slider was one of the most filthy pitches i’ve ever seen and he’s simply stopped using it.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

has he got a hangnail and can't throw it correctly or something?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

Good curveball, too

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

and yet he only throws the heater

no?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

+1

If I remember correctly, the plan was for Perez to stay in Memphis most of this season. He was rushed up when Izzy went nuts on that TV in Milwaukee after blowing a save. Perez can still be a damn good closer… in 2009 or 2010

by 10worldchamps on Jul 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

grumble grumble grumble

win tomorrow, it’s a 3-3 road trip in PA, and the team can get some much-needed rest over the break with a homestand coming up afterwards with games against the brewers. the sky is not falling. yeah, we need a little pitching help, but this was one game, and tony won’t let his guys think like 99% of the folks on this forum right now.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT 0 recs

5.5 back and this season is slowly slipping away...tonight was a RED FLAG!

mattnj

by mattnj on Jul 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

Everyone will feel a whole lot better

with a win tomorrow.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up 0 recs

not really

a win tomorrow won’t change the fact that they blew a 6 run lead tonight and blew 2 saves in the process

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

teams blow 6 run leads more than you think

it’s a 162 game season. there’s nothing wrong with tonight’s game that winning 9 in a row wouldn’t fix.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

But with our bullpen

winning 9 in a row is an impossibility

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

just need 9 complete games in a row

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

please

baseball is a game of round bat, round ball. anything can happen.

that said, i think the 3-day rest for the all-star break will do our guys (especially the ‘pen) some good. that homestand against the pads and brewers is pretty key to getting their momentum back.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

And after those 9 straight wins, I'd say something like

Man, just think guys, we could be celebrating TEN wins tonight, had it not been for that testicle-exploding shit storm on the 12th in Pittsburgh. TEN FUCKING WINS!

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up 0 recs