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Pitt 12, StL 11

Birdos_avatar_tiny by lboros on Comment 623 comments

that is just about the saddest loss i can remember in my 40 years of watching the cardinals.

i appreciate that most people are venting their frustrations appropriately.

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I feel like I want to vomit and cry at the same time

I’m going to cromit.

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

isn't cromit

kermit’s lesser known cousin?

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hiho! Cromit the frog here.

Blughhhhh! Waaaaaaaah!

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I just cromitted a bit in my mouth.

by roebirds on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least the all star break might deaden the effect of this loss

i hope anyway, a month off might not

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 12, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

that’ll teach me to turn off the game to watch “Sky High”

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sky High is better than tonight's debacle

"There is one word in America that says it all, and that one word is, 'You never know.'" Joaquin Andujar

by Big Mike on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It actually was

pretty darn watchable, which quite suprised me considering…well…it is “Sky High”

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good movie
I my kids love to watch that one! Lynda Carter as the principal is priceless, not to mention half of the Kids in the Hall.

by roebirds on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

if was the Japanese movie of the same name, about a serial killer who rips out the hearts of people, then it’s just like watching the game.

by DiscoJer on Jul 13, 2008 3:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just got a memo

From Bud Selig (I’m an insider). He said this will count for two losses in the standings.

by jdub176 on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade Lohse and Ludwick

and blow this shit up. No point in trying to compete this year.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's the spirit

let’s give up! hooray!

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this team is not good enough to make the post season

so why not get what you can for the valuable/tradeable commodities?

It’s being realistic and thinking for the long term best interest of the team.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 10:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2006 team

didn’t look good enough to make the post-season a whole lot more often than this one.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Devil's advocate

2006’s team was in first place pretty much the whole year

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you always seem to think "realistically"

this team can make the postseason, they’ll just get swept out of the first round.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5 game series has tons of variance

7 too

look at the 2006 season

FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG

by astrostl on Jul 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this team can't make the postseason

not with this bullpen. their is 0 chance of it happening.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i just don't like the idea of throwing in the towel

as a reaction to one game.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same

it’s gonna take a stretch of poor play…the only problem is that will probably mean some of our players will start to play poorly (lohse, ludwick) and it may diminish their value a bit.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if ever there is a time to not rag on pessimistic thinking

this is the night

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not a reaction to one game

we have blown appx. 20 saves. this is cumulative.

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by themanthemyth on Jul 12, 2008 11:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

then we need to go get some bullpen help, not give up on the season. still a lotta games.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

21

There was a graphic on it on FSN

by craig3410 on Jul 12, 2008 11:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

better idea

trade duncan and reyes for some quality relievers. we’d have 60 wins right now if we had a dominant closer.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bahahahaha

love reyes and like duncan, but they will not bring a “dominant closer”

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not a closer problem

It’s an entire bullpen problem. Springer is the lone bright spot out there right now.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tomorrow's game

We should use a Piniero/Thompson tandem. Just take the bullpen out of the equation.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

even looper can pitch tommorrow

they’ve got three days off. looper could start the friday back and wellemeyer can start thursday.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

21 blown saves

I don’t have to tell you guys where we’d be if we had only won 1/2 of those… but I will. 62 wins. SIXTY FUCKING TWO!

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fuentes

will blow em’ as well…he goes through pretty ridiculous stretches of a few weeks where he has absolutely none of his stuff working for him. as a matter of fact he just got over one of those stretches.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not just the closer

I’m serious. The entire bullpen (other than Springer) sucks right now. It’s the anti-2007.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how many games had multiple blown saves though? tonight we blew two.

by adiueordie on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

league avg. on save op is 79% or so

62 wins is conservative really.

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by gocards62 on Jul 12, 2008 10:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

smack to the face

punch to the gut. kick in the groin…You name it. If this doesn’t wake up TLR, Dunc, MO, et al, that serious pitching help is needed now, this team won’t win 80 games. For all the tenacity this club shows at times, there’s only so much the human spirit can handle.

by 10worldchamps on Jul 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We better win at least 80

I have money riding on it with a Cubs fan!

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 10:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1 on pitching help

Protection for Albert wasn’t the problem tonight. Tony.

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 10:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly why we need to call it a season and sell

Their are too many holes in this team.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But the Cubs just got Harden

and, more importantly, the team chasing us got Sabathia.

by craig3410 on Jul 12, 2008 11:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you didn't notice

Harden threw one of his 5 inning, 95 pitch gems today and the cub bullpen blew a 7 run lead courtesy of Mr. Howry and Mr. Marmol.

by Tackle Box on Jul 13, 2008 12:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and keep those coming

I just hope harden helps make that bullpen shitty too

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 12:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why?

because you’re a no-confidence, salty, bandwagoner?

Pitchers Hit Eighth

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 13, 2008 5:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well I bet TLR doesnt try to just get his pitchers 'work' anymore

no matter how big a lead is, just play things like u would any other day with the BP, I have not been a TLR advocate for a long time, but this takes the cake & Im tired of his bullshit when probably 2/3 of the people on this board could manage better than he does…start the bashing on me, but TLR sucks ass IMO, even though the players need to execute better as well.

by buzzburton33 on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's plenty of blame to be spread around

between the bullpen but I’m still frustrated/pissed that Miles didn’t turn the double play in the 9th.

by azruavatar on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there's no excuse for him not turning that DP

i know you dont get an error for not turning it, but if ever a player was going to get a error for not turning one, it’d be Mini Me right there. Bay fell down & every thing. all he had to do was get it to Albert & the game is over

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bingo

that’s ballgame if he makes the play (and he should have) and no one is bitching

Pitchers Hit Eighth

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jul 13, 2008 5:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Chris Perez really the closer of the future?

He’s been unimpressive, to say the least

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think he's a bit out of his league

he has only one pitch he can throw with complete confidence and he sometimes can’t get control of thta one pitch. he needs to go back to memphis to work on a second pitch and his mechanics.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 11:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has nothing left to learn in the minors

He had his slider mastered down there.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the hell happened to his slider?

his first week up that thing was f’in nasty

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no kidding

his slider was one of the most filthy pitches i’ve ever seen and he’s simply stopped using it.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

If I remember correctly, the plan was for Perez to stay in Memphis most of this season. He was rushed up when Izzy went nuts on that TV in Milwaukee after blowing a save. Perez can still be a damn good closer… in 2009 or 2010

by 10worldchamps on Jul 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

grumble grumble grumble

win tomorrow, it’s a 3-3 road trip in PA, and the team can get some much-needed rest over the break with a homestand coming up afterwards with games against the brewers. the sky is not falling. yeah, we need a little pitching help, but this was one game, and tony won’t let his guys think like 99% of the folks on this forum right now.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not really

a win tomorrow won’t change the fact that they blew a 6 run lead tonight and blew 2 saves in the process

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

teams blow 6 run leads more than you think

it’s a 162 game season. there’s nothing wrong with tonight’s game that winning 9 in a row wouldn’t fix.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But with our bullpen

winning 9 in a row is an impossibility

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just need 9 complete games in a row

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

please

baseball is a game of round bat, round ball. anything can happen.

that said, i think the 3-day rest for the all-star break will do our guys (especially the ‘pen) some good. that homestand against the pads and brewers is pretty key to getting their momentum back.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 11:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And after those 9 straight wins, I'd say something like

Man, just think guys, we could be celebrating TEN wins tonight, had it not been for that testicle-exploding shit storm on the 12th in Pittsburgh. TEN FUCKING WINS!

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

how does one reply to something like that?

nail on the head!

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Testicle-exploding shit storm

I’ll be referring to tonight’s game as TESS-12 from now on.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am saving this page

just in case I am too hungover to remember that in the morning

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and LBOROS

can you lead off with that as the title tomorrow?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

correction

Houston Cardinal

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 12:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TESS-12

That is the hardest I’ve ever laughed at any post on VEB in my 2+ years of visiting here. Well done sir.

I’m also pretty hammered, but if I see this tomorrow, I’m sure I’ll laugh just the same!

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

that’s kinda sad… but to each his/her own

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NO

not when this game was well in hand from the 3rd on & EVERY game counts. I wont lose any sleep, but Ill still be pissed a week from now over this one.

by buzzburton33 on Jul 12, 2008 11:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When the game recaps pop up in my RSS feed, I'm going to delete them ASAP

I don’t think I can stand to read the headlines

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha, same here

i’m staying far far away from ESPN and BBTN

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3 things..

1). What a punch in the face, this was pathetic.

2).The pen needs help but the problem is that it will need more than just one guy. Getting fuentes does not solve all the problems that this whole pen has caused.

3). I sort of agree with Raconteur in becoming a seller. I mean seriously, we could really load up witha trade of Lohse

The wind in here just shifted 360 degrees!!!
-Mike Shannon

by cardsphan04 on Jul 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fuentes

doesn’t really solve anything as far as consistency in the bullpen.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ahem

Punch in the nuts. Get it right.

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i cromitted once

my girlfriend broke up with me at 6 am, i walked outside shortly thereafter to find that my 87 monte carlo ss had been stolen.

by adiueordie on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was it the black SS?

or one of those crappy silver ones?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks....

i now know i can still laugh.

Why don't we get glausy eyed and put back some franklin's....

by punksoulbrutha on Jul 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that made me feel alot better

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 12, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Absolutely

What a laugh!

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bringing in Jason Isringhausen in the ninth =

by craig3410 on Jul 12, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Since coming off the DL

and entering today, Izzy has put up these numbers in 13 1/3 IP: 1.35 ERA, 7.4 K/9 3.4 BB/9 0HR

I thought he’d get it done.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did too

I actually had confidence in him being in a pressureless situation and getting it done

boy was I wrong.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same.

He’d been better! I had more confidence in him than Perez. Hadn’t Perez given up a bunch of big hits lately?

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

and but for one F-in pitch (ok, the walk too)

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Key phrase= *in the 9th*

Apparently, he’s only at his best in completely fucking meaningless situations.

by craig3410 on Jul 12, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

my family was cringing at him coming in and i reasonably thought that he would set them down 1-2-5

i guess we know who lost that bet.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we'll never know

tony taking him out can’t have been good for his psyche. he has been pretty good of late, hopefully this was just a minor blip and ol’ izzy from the rest of july will be back shortly.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jul 12, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Guys!!!!!

what did I miss?

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Damnit

why couldn’t we of just lost this game in one of our blowout fashions, 20-2 or so?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great idea on the postgame thread Lboros

it was needed!

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A win tommorow won’t help….not after a loss like this. Not only did we have a chance to increaea lead over the brewers but now we are even farther from the cubs. I don’t think the cubs will ever play a road game agian. Atleast it doesn’t seem like it.

The wind in here just shifted 360 degrees!!!
-Mike Shannon

by cardsphan04 on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, so now I'm trying to cheer myself up.

This could have been worse. We could have just lost this way to the Cubs. And Jed could have hit the winning homerun. I think that would have been worse.

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 11:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wasn't Hardcore Legend there?

I’m looking forward to hearing from him tomorrow or later tonight…

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 11:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was there

he even called this catastrophe. That Hardcore Bastard!

i can’t believe i am getting all negative on HL

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the same odds that this team will get into the playoffs

with this bullpen?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so you're either saying he will be sober enough

or the cards will make the playoffs with this bullpen…

Is that really what you were going for?

by Tackle Box on Jul 13, 2008 12:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was saying the odds are slim

I think the way this bullpen is going , the odds of making the playoffs are slim, just like the odds of HL being sober are

i could be wrong, ,Hardcore might not even be a drinker

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 12:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, i just read it again and you're right

math word problems where always my Achelies’ Heel.

by Tackle Box on Jul 13, 2008 12:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no problem

I read it and I wasnt even sure what I meant at first

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 1:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh

Trade for a closer. After tonight, it’s apparent nothing is more important than acquiring a guy that can actually close the door. Not a LOOGY, not a bat, nothing.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on Jul 12, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a lot

guy is 23 and under team control for cheap for quite some time. i’d guess the name rasmus may pop up.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Screw it

if they give us Grienke, too, they can have Rasmus.

What good’s a star CFer if your bullpen can’t hold a 6-RUN LEAD?????

by craig3410 on Jul 12, 2008 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unlikely

but i’d probably part with rasmus and a package of reyes, duncan, and a few mid level prospects for greinke and soria.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate to say it

but I could get behind something like that

can we get them to give up gordon too while they are at it?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's the disgusting truth

Soria was out of baseball the ENTIRE 2005 season before San Diego signed him. KC picked him up from the Padres in the Rule V. Meanwhile, Jocketty was giving Mulder 13.5 million

by 10worldchamps on Jul 12, 2008 11:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we don't need to hear about that tonight

bad comment, bad!

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh

you can do scenarios like this all day long. here’s one…the yankees have been starting darrell rasner, sidney ponson and are looking to sign ERIC MILTON because they didn’t sign kyle lohse to a 1 year deal for 4.5 mil.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can we trade for Ponson to be our closer

I hear Wells might be on the market for the Rockies too. he can be the setup man

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even worse

this game will be the top story on BBTN cause were in the central. We will have to see several of these homers on touch em all’ segments and Mclouths grab off duncan to double up troy will be on webgems…...ESPN loves to torch us!!

AVOID AT ALL COST

The wind in here just shifted 360 degrees!!!
-Mike Shannon

by cardsphan04 on Jul 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it can’t even close landings, apparently.

by adiueordie on Jul 12, 2008 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or takeoffs, i don’t really know what the story is. i just googled epic fail.

by adiueordie on Jul 12, 2008 11:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, that plane is high and outside...

just like the Cardinals bullpen. It’s even wearing a reduniform.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on Jul 12, 2008 11:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

like a picture of izzy looking back at a 430 footer to centerfield with “EPIC FAIL” on it. c’mon photoshoppers…

by adiueordie on Jul 12, 2008 11:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just change Lidge to Izzy

And Puj to that asswipe that hit the 3 run HR

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey bjork

can you put that pic up w/o the photoshopping? or post a link to it?

by rlgosnell on Jul 12, 2008 11:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree, we should do the following:

Offer Lohse 3/33, if he takes it , sweet, we have a good pitcher locked up reasonable for the next 3 years.
If he doesn’t, trade him. He isn’t guaranteed to be a Type A Free Agent, thus we will lose him and get absolutely NOTHING (I don’t consider a Type B free agent anything worthwhile) in return.

Shop Ludwick around and see if a team like the Rays will bite and overpay a bit for him.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ew

3/33 is not something i’d be willing to pay for lohse. sure, he’s been good this year, but i’m still a skeptic.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on the lighter side

i’m playing mlb 2k1 and ankiel is ABSOLUTELY dealing. 8 ks through 4.

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Jul 12, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you must be scoring a ton

if he’s batted eight times already.

by adiueordie on Jul 12, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

lol

touche

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Jul 12, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Optimistic view

We got all the bullpen’s regression to the mean for the season out of the way in one nasty day. Nothing but rainbows and moonbeams the rest of the way.

by liam on Jul 12, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i can get behind that view

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Regression to the mean"?

For this team to have a regression to the mean, they’d have to go on an 83.1 inning scoreless streak!

by craig3410 on Jul 12, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another bright side to this game

we can call beers many more names after this!

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

never enough beer nicknames

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 12, 2008 11:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Next time I go to the bar, I'm going to yell...

HEY GUYS! WATCH THIS! I’M GOING TO BLOW A SIX RUN LEAD!!!

Then I’m going to drink six shots of Jameson and cromit all over the poor bastard who doesn’t move off the toilet fast enough.

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

a round oof Izzys on the house

and pass me another KMac

dont be hoggin all the f’in Perezs

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good closers are few and far between

teams ask A LOT in return for them, and many aren’t even avalible.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate your avatar

It looks too much like mine and it confuses me when I’m scrolling.

jk

by Tackle Box on Jul 13, 2008 12:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well that's nothing

cardzfan24 outright stole mine

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 13, 2008 1:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont have that problem

no one else dares take my luddy avatar

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 1:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Hey Hey

I called first.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 13, 2008 1:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

new sig?

cause that one is aweome

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 1:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like it

its been around since the site upgrade.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 13, 2008 1:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no you didn't

i did. heh

i don’t really think they are the same. mine looks darker & the STL looks slightly bigger

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 13, 2008 1:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well you know what they say

when in Rome.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 13, 2008 1:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

still talking about that avatar?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 1:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nevermind

i failed at that attempt at humor

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 1:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah I knew where you were going

well played

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 13, 2008 1:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I don't know how i missed this, BUT

thats what she said

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 13, 2008 1:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brian Fuentes and George Sherrill are the only closers available

and neither off that much of an upgrade.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn it

I just did it too Raconteur!

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

but i’m not keen on giving up any prospects who even have a remote chance of being with the big club in 3 years time for someone who offers a teensy tiny upgrade.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am with you man

just feels good to vent

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I for one

am glad that Glaus hit that epic shot in the tenth, even if it made the loss that much more of a stomach punch.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is the best I can do on short notice

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is OUTSTANDING

exactly what it should be. It cut through my angst.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Coooool....

Every single teenager in the Cards fan population was definitely thinking that….thanks.

by cardschinmusic on Jul 13, 2008 12:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're fun

welcome to the party!

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 13, 2008 12:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

righteous

i thought my generation was the last one to use that?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 12:44 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We were wearing grey tonight :P

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is a terrible idea.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wainwright is much more valuable as a starter

if anything, we should use Carp as our closer.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now that idea might have some legs

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dunno

tough call…does he have more value as the closer or an ace starter? hard to say…plus he isn’t healthy.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That isn't a tough call at all

he is immensely more valuable as a starter.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how so

we’ve blown what…plus 20 saves this season with our revolving door of relievers. wainer probably isn’t going to win 20 games a season.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But without good starting pitching

you don’t even get into position to have blown saves. Bullpen arms can be restocked for cheap, number 1 and 2 type pitchers don’t fall out of trees. Adam is more than fine where he is.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bullpen arms

sure…dominant closers, no.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We don't need a dominant closer

An average one would do.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+whatever

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't like trading for bullpen arms

as tonight proves, they are capable of stabbing you through the heart. We don’t need new personnel, we need our current personnel in the correct roles.

K-mac would be fine in the closer role, IMO, Izzy should be no where near a high leverage situation ever, ever ever again, and the hot hand between Franklin and Perez could be the eigth inning guy.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Make the most of what you have

Blowing up a bullpen mid season doesn’t make sense, and giving up valuable pieces to do it makes even less sense.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not talking about blowing up the bullpen..

I’m saying we are missing one piece…A CLOSER!
KMAC is not high high leverage ready. I see a lot of these guys effective in the 6th, 7th or 8th…but we need a closer.

mattnj

by mattnj on Jul 12, 2008 11:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

K mac would do fine as a closer

he has a 41-12 K:BB ratio and a 2.74 ERA. He has the skills and the temperament. He is also among the lead leaders in holds, for whatever thats worth (probably not much.)

he could handle it. tonight he was put in a more difficult spot than the typical save, even 1 run save.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yadi approves

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Worst idea ever

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With everything else

Does Ankiel have a DL injury? Anybody know?

by ridgesee on Jul 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seems like

he just rolled it, but we probably won’t know more til tommorow.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

just a roll of the ankle, he’s fine

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whatever!

we can still deny anything we said in this thread, right?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn right

if he needs a full ankle-o-plasty tomorrow, i’ll retract it all!

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse won't take 3/33

They were saying today on the radio how he could 3/42 easy. Someone will over pay him so i think we should get what we can for him now

The wind in here just shifted 360 degrees!!!
-Mike Shannon

by cardsphan04 on Jul 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as much as i love what he has done

we should trade him while his value is so high, wait till the deadline, and hope our “returning” pitchers can bring us home in contention land

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 12, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

that’s why I say you offer it to him, see if he takes it, and if he doesn’t TRAAAAAAAADE HIM

The guy has ridiculous value right now and just about any contending team would trade an arm and a leg to get him.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'd rather

just trade him than lock him up…honestly i just can’t see him sustaining this for much longer.

by lopey986 on Jul 12, 2008 11:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can

he’s looked like an entirely different pitcher under Duncan, I truly think the two of them together are a match made in baseball heaven.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man those Pirates have bigs sticks,

and fantastic momentum chemistry.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 12, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what she said

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 12, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they sure do

what a successful team those Pirates are

man, I wish our organization was as good as theirs.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jul 12, 2008 11:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they had our starters

they would be in first place.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 12, 2008 11:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A-ha!!!

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 13, 2008 3:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah perspective

How refreshing. Thanks. Pirate fans would give their right leg to have a season like 2005, which was a disappointment in these parts

by 10worldchamps on Jul 12, 2008 11:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone want my tickets to next saturdays game

I might be willing to pay you to take em

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now you're just talking crazy. ;-)

Who knows what’ll happen between now and then… I’m kind of with Moboiler on this on. I’m fully embracing the suck tonight, but a break and a couple of wins – while not erasing the pain – would certainly dull it.

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know, I know

but this has taken over as the #1 all time worst loss ever in the history of cardinal baseball. I plan on using this night to get all my negativity out in one fell swoop

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sure!

it’s A.D.A.M. growth poster day. now that’s going to be a freakin’ huge growth poster.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2008 11:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh!

I would love to have one of those for my classroom.

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 11:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, that would be awesome.......

We had one of Ken Griffey, Jr. when he was still with Seattle in our gym…..the kids love it. It’s all fun and games until they put another student on their shoulder to touch the hat….be careful with it if you get one, is all I’m saying.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Jul 12, 2008 11:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh. Don't worry, I'll keep an eye on the kiddos.

Although I do like the idea of combining kids’ heights – just to get them adding measurements.

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 11:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have the Carpenter growth poster in my classroom

We cut it into four pieces then ran it through the laminator. Then duct taped it together on the back and hung it in the back of the room. The kids are always checking their height and I don’t have to worry about it getting torn up. However, I do feel like I’ve been cut into four pieces and run through the laminator right about now.

"There is one word in America that says it all, and that one word is, 'You never know.'" Joaquin Andujar

by Big Mike on Jul 12, 2008 11:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice.

I guess they don’t make a Miles growth poster, huh? That would probably work for the real young ones – then they could switch to Carp or Mulder in the later grades.

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 11:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that is just cold dude

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I kid!

He’s taller than I am.

But I bet they don’t make growth posters of him or our other middle infielders. ;-)

by peach concrete on Jul 12, 2008 11:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They could do like the kids

and have Miles sitting on Cesar’s shoulders toucing Wainwright’s hat.

by Tackle Box on Jul 13, 2008 1:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

call Reyes up

we need a closer, you ok with that Jill?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 12, 2008 11:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No.

Although he is one for one in save opportunities….and did have a perfect inning last time he worked out of the pen, and he even got a win.

I want them to quit messing around with this young man. They treat him like he’s not even part of the organization. Time to just go ahead and make him not part of the organization. They don’t think he’s good enough. Fine. Let him get on with his career somewhere else-they might look at him and see what he can do, instead of what he can’t., and proceed from there…...I happen to think it would make a world of difference for him.

You were kidding, anyway, right? Just trying to make me go off, right? Stop it!

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Jul 13, 2008 12:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

me kid? never!

i am always Mr Serious.

REYES FOR CLOSER!

get on the bandwagon!

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 12:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No! No! No!

Please, stop, oh, silly one…....

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Jul 13, 2008 12:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On a side note,

Bud Light is just not as good as Killian Red. It just isn’t. One of my boys turned 21, and said “I’ll get the beer” and brought home this slop…...

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Jul 13, 2008 12:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i used to drink Killian's Red all the time

then i stopped for some reason, i can’t really remember why

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 13, 2008 12:39 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will drink almost anything

except for that wheat beer crap, at least the Sam Adams wheat was enough to keep me from ever trying any other one

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2008 12:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Outside of Octoberfest

I’m not a real big fan of Sam Adams.

by Tackle Box on Jul 13, 2008 1:13 AM EDT to parent up