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Game 94 Open Thread: July 11 2008

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St. Louis Cardinals @ Pittsburgh Pirates


Lohse Duke
10-2, 3.61 4-5, 4.23

will the cardinals ever face an rhsp again?? they've got another left-hander tomorrow, which will make it 7 lhsps in a row . . . . . the last righty they faced was zambrano. i bet it has been a long time since they went more than a week without facing a right-hander. the only lefty they've beaten so far in this streak is cole hamels; they're 2-3 in the five games overall.

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somewhat OT

inbev is expected to “merge” with AB. dissapointing day for sure. i wonder what becomes of the stadium name.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 11, 2008 6:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Lineups per Gameday

STL

Schumaker LF
Ludwick RF
Pujols 1B
Glaus 3B
Molina C
Ankiel CF
Izturis SS
Lohse P
Ryan SS

PIT

McLouth CF
Sanchez 2B
Doumit C
Bay LF
Nady RF
LaRoche 1B
Bautista 3B
Duke P
Wilson SS

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 6:26 PM EDT   0 recs

Ah shit

BR is playing 2B

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

agh

stop sucking at lineups mr redbird.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 11, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Boo me

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ugh

i’m sick of facing lefties.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 11, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I am still wondering why Mather is on the big club

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 11, 2008 6:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Two lefty OFs to face the LHP

Seriously

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 6:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

3 OFs that don't exactly light it up against LHP

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I will be the first to admit it

this lineup f-in ROCKS

everytime i complain they kick ass

I should complain more

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 11, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Diggin' the PT for Ryan

have a good night, kid.

by liam on Jul 11, 2008 7:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm ready for the ASB

This team seems to be running on fumes right now. Give them some time off, hopefully they’ll come back rejuvenated.

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 6:28 PM EDT   0 recs

+1

the rotation espcially seems tired.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 11, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

they need the rest

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

per mlb/per si

Fresh Jason Bay rumors: the D’Backs and Cardinals are in pursuit. The Mets and Rays have kicked the tires as well. Heyman believes the Pirates want Emilio Bonifacio from the D’Backs, and maybe Colby Rasmus from the Cards. At any rate, the price will be steep with Bay signed for ‘09.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 6:48 PM EDT   0 recs

link?

any?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 11, 2008 6:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's from mlbtraderumors.com

If the Pirates want Colby for Bay, I hope Mo laughs as he’s hanging the phone up. That would be a terrible deal for us to make.

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 6:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

here

its from si

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

woops

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/heymans-latest.html

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the pirates will ask high

and if it’s not to their liking not deal bay at all. They never seem to make that club any better. I’m with Hardcore and have menitoned it as well before about liking Marte. I have always liked him back to his White Sox days but the question remains would they deal him now that Capps is down. He may or maynot come cheaper than Fuentes

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 7:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I got my first look at

a one hour pregame on FSMW….......wow.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jul 11, 2008 6:57 PM EDT   0 recs

how bout that johnny load?

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 11, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HTH did you get that

My Mlb doesn’t turn on until 5 before game
< is in MT

by RiverRat on Jul 11, 2008 7:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Slumpbuster

White Sox need a blow up doll, all the birds need is the Pirates.

by RiverRat on Jul 11, 2008 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

solid hit pujols

no 1-2-3 first

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 11, 2008 7:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Our offense is pathetic

and Tony does it no favors by starting both Skip and Ludwick, neither of which hit LHP particularly well.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT   0 recs

I don't understand his adamant attitude

towards getting a bat that will improve the team, when moves like this seemingly don’t help the offense at all

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Unfortunately

Ludwick’s LHP split, even his .315 OBP, are the best of any of the regular OFs. Has anyone in the press even questioned Tony about his refusal to start Mather against all these lefties?

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Jul 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

C'mon Kyle

you’ll have to do it all tonight

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by gocards62 on Jul 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

anybody notice Cleveland signed Jeff Weaver to a minor league contract a bit ago?

do you think we didn’t touch him b/c

1) the ownership had a personal problem w/ him?
2) he’s been struggling?
3) he didn’t want to come back here?

I’m wondering if it’s not 1). He struggled before and, besides, struggling vets are Duncan’s stock in trade. I guess Weaver could be upset enough that we didn’t make the offer he wanted, but given that he’s now begging for a minor league contract, the logic of the ownership at the time seems vindicated. He certainly did better here; you’d think he’d want to get back to the place of his success.

And while we may doubt whether he can put it back together again, a minor league contract is pretty small beans.

by tom s. on Jul 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

2-struggling

and that is putting it nicely

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd rather remember Weaver

as the force that took down the Tigers in game 5. Sometimes it’s best to just let things be.

by KYCards on Jul 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he wasnt exactly tearing it up

in 06 when they got him either. I’m saying 1..they straighten the guy out offer a good deal and he spurns em

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's one thing to struggle against MLB batters (2006)

It’s entirely another to be abysmal against AAA batters (2008)

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no argument he's been stinking.

but (far as I know) he’s not injured, which means he’s having problems with his control, with his form, or with his head. Given that Dunc was able to right him before, I wonder if it would have been worth a few hundred thousand dollars to see if he could again.

by tom s. on Jul 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He sucked

with the Cardinals. I don’t think his postseason is evidence that anything was fixed.

by haltz on Jul 11, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

come on iz2

youa re better than that

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Lohse picked him up

guy has been just nails this year.

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by gocards62 on Jul 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tigers game the exception, of course

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by gocards62 on Jul 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That, too, was nails

It was just on a chalkboard that time.

by punditmoi on Jul 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

any chance they resign him or

will he get a huge deal?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

man

i thought rick kept that one fair

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT   0 recs

At some point the offense is going to wake up right?

I think it’s starting to get to their heads…plus they might be harboring on false hope that management makes a deal for a Holliday type?

by KYCards on Jul 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm sure there's some disruption to the team

guessing who may or may not be traded

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wish he'd do it more often

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by gocards62 on Jul 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Give him time

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

its either or with him

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They're contemplating

having to say, “Pop open a nice, cold InBev.”

by punditmoi on Jul 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

didn't think about that

Busch selling out to InBev can’t be making Shannon happy.

by KYCards on Jul 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There's a part of me that thinks that this thing still falls through

But then again, maybe not. But this doesn’t have the feel that the McDonnell Douglass and TWA fiascoes had. Maybe that’s just because I don’t read the PD daily anymore

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i dont like the thought of it either

i really like my nice cold budweisers, and i probably will keep drinking them too

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 11, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I usually drink Coors Light (ducks)

But honestly, most light beers taste the same to me (except for that god-awful Miller Lite). Since I heard about the AB/InBev thing, I’ve been drinking Bud Light exclusively. I don’t know what that does, other than to show support for the beer franchise whose name is on the stadium of my favorite team :D

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i will continue to drink bud products

for the brewery workers

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 11, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I love it when announcers butcher names

SAY-ZAR

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Let's go Boog!

Yer due!

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by gocards62 on Jul 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

no high socks?

have i missed something last time i watched he had them..maybe he reads this blog..jk

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT   0 recs

ditched them last time out

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i dont get a chance to

watch consistently..i like the high socks..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Brendan is struggling somethig fierce

His last 13 games:

.103/.146/.103/.249 in 41 PA

HIs OPS has tanked .113 points in that time

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm starting to think Ryan doesn't have much of a future here

and not because of anything involving Larussa.

by KYCards on Jul 11, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hope it's just a funk

Because after his game on June 24 he was at:

.302/.341/.362/.703

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

one would think though that all the shuffling

TLR does with pitchers and players it may take its tolls especially on younger guys.

Example… Everyone rails Parisi he was doing pretty well in the pen. They try him as a starter doesnt do well..but hey they should look..then instead of just putting him back in the pen send him back down then back up and now down again. I felt they needed to keep him in the pen but that was just me.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

he might just yet earn the Bo Hart Memorial Flash in the Pan Award

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 11, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, if he does end up being a flash in the pan, he'll at least have lasted longer

He’s already ~30 AB’s past Bo in MLB experience.

Another thought: Ever since I put him in my signature, Adam Kennedy has turned into possibly our best MIF. I’d take him out, except I’m superstitious!

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

same here

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN