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Game 93 Open Thread: July 10, 2008

St. Louis Cardinals at Philadelphia Phillies, Jul 10, 2008 1:05 PM EDT


Looper Moyer
9-6, 4.15 7-6, 4.12

meaningless data dept: the cardinal offense has almost no day/night split so far this season --- they've scored 4.6 runs a game at night, 4.4 runs a game in the daylight. the pitching staff has gotten much better results at night, allowing 4.2 runs/game then as opposed to 4.7 runs/game in bright sunshine. despite being outscored 141-151 in day games, the cards are 4 games over .500 (18-14). . . . . .

the cardinals are still looking for their first series win of the month.

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TLR likes Bonds as a cardinal...

That could be a headache. Thoughts?

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

that is an impact bat

This season has been one ache after another, why not add a headache to the mix

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

and bond's knee ache

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is true. I just don't know if anyone wants to get into that.

Which is sad. I think Bonds should be at least respected, even with the steroid stuff.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

it isn’t like he was the only one to do em. But I doubt we want to go there

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be happy if the Cards went there

the biggest headache he would give me is figuring out where Tony would bat him, 2nd or 4th

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

heck

isn’t his agent saying that bonds would sign a minor league deal? sign him up, put him in memphis for a few weeks and if he mashes then give him a shot.

"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Jul 10, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barry Bonds in Memphis, TN

WOW

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

at the very least

it would keep him off the cubs/mets/etc.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 10, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poland

you forgot about Franklin

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www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Jul 10, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols, Bonds

I don’t know if there would be a better tandem than that.

by saladdays on Jul 10, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd go

bonds in the 2 hole then pujols. bonds obp in front of pujols would be amazing.

"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Jul 10, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be honest

I think ive gotten over my Bonds hate all things considering.

There have been so many steroid guys, and weve had so many steroid/HGH guys play for us.

the madia fatigue has left me, I havent heard him name in ages…and I certainly havent heard him talk.

My anger has died down…for now

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Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Jul 10, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineups per Gameday

STL

Kennedy 2B
Ludwick RF
Pujols 1B
Glaus 3B
Ankiel CF
Molina C
Duncan LF
Looper P
Ryan SS

PHI

Rollins SS
Victorino CF
Utley 2B
Howard 1B
Burrell LF
Jenkins RF
Feliz 3B
Coste C
Moyer P

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

hope kennedy can get that bat hot

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

keep

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somehow I just knew Duncan would get in the mix

Why is Mather on the big club again?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

the ladies love him

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i ment mather

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

that ever expanding wad in his mouth isn’t attractive?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were talking about that

very subject on the FSMW pregame show.

by liam on Jul 10, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

they said he was brought up

to face lefties this week, no?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

kennedy slap single to left please

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

love the Phillies unis today

that should be there standard uni

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

grr

their

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never noticed him do that!

Why does he tap the ump’s shin guard?

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

me either

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

santa

lets round up these runners in the sleigh and drive them on home

"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Jul 10, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

heh

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im callin Santa to bust out

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

and that was a strike?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

santa

maybe he gave the umps coal last year or something. it seems like he is not getting many close calls

"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Jul 10, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

where was that pitch

on gameday it looks high and inside

"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Jul 10, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

god what a nice play

where is our luck?

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

poop

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN is retarded

why do they have headlines that the NL Central is now a must watch? Like it wasn’t going to be close before those guys were traded? give me a break

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

hmmm

they may be calling the Central a must watch but I bet the AL East still gets about 95% of their coverage.

"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Jul 10, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

in all espn MSM fairness

the real teams have DH’s and play in the East, not the Central.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jaime doesn't look anywhere near 22

I am surprised he can grow a …whatever the term is for that thing on his face

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW!

Ank was out, but Chase was safe? Just like Skip was out yesterday on the “Tag”.

buncha mess!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

when was the last time we got a close call

the world is against the cards!

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

2005 NLCS

Everett ta…

wait, no… the ump butchered that one too. Everett is still a cheater.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahh thank god for the intarwebs

nothing like streaming a game while you work

by FunkeeC on Jul 10, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

jesus

just bean howard next time

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

ryan howard blows

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 10, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

so you agree?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

im still bitter

over that mvp he won that he didn’t deserve

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 10, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

he won a defensive award on offense. Its voted on by people who dont care about it. Then again, if it were the fans voting for it DLee would win it every year. (tongue planted firmly in cheek).

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

was a pretty good pitch too

just shot out of the yard

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

what was that

like six inches off the ground?

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

this ball park gets small really quick.

too bad we cant take advantage of it too.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

If I had a center

of gravity that big, I’m sure I could hit .220 and 26 HR. He’s a f*ckstick.

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jul 10, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

LMFAO

"Cross a lawyer with the Godfather, make you an offer you can't understand" - Don Henley

by Futility Infielder on Jul 10, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunc vs. Moyer

I smell success!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it's funny

that duncan tries to make routine catches look really difficult. it’s almost like he’s saying, “See, I can catch!”

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry, im late to the thread

but WTF? why the hell is Duncan starrting against Moyer??? Mather is on the team to help against lefties!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Jul 10, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

thats one single

hope he has more in the tank

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that was unfortunate.

But I agree with you. Point taken regardless of the single.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

hope you mean the LIDP

and not the single…

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 10, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that

sucked

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

things not going the cards way today

we need something to change momentum

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 10, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd rather see Holliday

as his knees are better and isnt a cancer in the clubhouse

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

pujols can cure cancer

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday

Holliday costs top prospects. Bonds only costs the league minimum. I’ll take the bad knees and save the prospects.

"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Jul 10, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

just sayin

thats who I’d rather see. Dont like Bonds, not one bit. No Sir.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness...

Have they done enough investigation to clear him of any wrongdoing? If we picked him up, would he be an asset, or a liability?

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

His hearing isn't happening until after the season

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could we have Bobby Bonds there to accept it in abstentia?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, right.

forgot that

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that attitude

and if Bonds’ fingers are as big as his head, his ring would probably take longer to make anyway.

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he helped us get the ring...

I wouldn’t mind too much if he wasn’t there.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, i mean in a positive direction

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 10, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would hurt the clubhouse, i think

we seem to have a team that is a tight knit group, i don’t know if bonds would fit

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 10, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

How come we don't run into that Tub of Lard

when he is hitting .107? We just happen to catch the 3 weeks he isn’t striking out 2 of every 3 ABs?

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 10, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

one of the most overrated players in baseball

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 10, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

might be a case

where low-K high GB-% pitchers have a disadvantage. Wish there was a way to get splits for that type of pitcher against guys who k 150+ times per year to see what effect it has.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 10, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yikes

we are hitting into some TERRIBLE luck.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

What happened to our offense? :x

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Pujols hasn't been hitting

and everyone else is not stepping up like when he was out

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Jaimie Freakin' Moyer

If Loop keeps us in this, they’ll come around

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the case could be said, did we really tag him? :D

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're putting the bat on the ball

And Moyer went to 2-1 against Adam Kennedy. They just need to hang in there.

Dammit, dp.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

K, ryan or kennedy get on.

thudwick singly HR. Tie game.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

step one, check

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 10, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-2-3

I like those innings when they dont happen to us.

Lets get some runs!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

gameday glitch

or did moyer attemp 5 pickoffs and only throw 1 pitch?

"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Jul 10, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Salas in the Futures game for Garcia

I can’t wait for that game even more now

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by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

GRR.

If there’s a HR here, I’m gonna be so mad. (well, I guess less mad than if he struck out looking of something)

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

What happened to playing small ball? Where's the bunt?

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

we're going all the way

no bunts here

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listen

the point of the double leadoff isn’t to get Albert ABs with runners on.

Or, wait….

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 10, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Generate some movement... come on guys.

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you want to see an angry Brit

Make them watch that movie. Nothing frustrates them more. Well, other than that U-257 movie with Matt Damon.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

why does that movie piss off the british

i cant remember it too much

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually don't remember exactly why

Aside from the cheesy American patriotism. I just remember them being really pissed off at it.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i too get pissed off at crappy movies

maybe its cause we lived in england as a kid

by FunkeeC on Jul 10, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and how the Americans figure things out

and then just phone everyone else

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is one scene

where a british air force officer is in the desert. Call comes in that the Americans are coordinating a counter-offensive and he says, “It’s about bloody time!”

by liam on Jul 10, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, i concede that.

but that is kind of funny.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why.

was there angry english sentiment? I haven’t seen it in awhile.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

who's on base now?

I’m blind right now

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Rollins

hit a double

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

crap

guess we didn’t do much with that ryan hit

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

AK double-play, Luddy fly out. Wonderful inning really.

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure we did

It gave Kennedy a chance to pad his GIDP stats.

by punditmoi on Jul 10, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loop

doesn’t look to good so far.

by chicagocardfan on Jul 10, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

pitch through 4 outs in an inning

see how that makes ya feel

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

I really dont like this.

C’mon you Cardinals!, CATCH FIRE!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you Ryan Howard for not belting another 2-run jack.

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Careful

The way things have been going injury-wise, they might take you literally.

by punditmoi on Jul 10, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe I shouldve said;

LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE! (?)

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Though my instincts to go ‘BOO LANCERS’ would be quite strong

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is my alma mater

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did not know that

Parkway South, class of ‘96, yo.

by liam on Jul 10, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're just jealous

that my high school is better than yours.

by liam on Jul 10, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, communicating the accent over the internet is hard

You guys want to go get some toasted ravioli after the game?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know a place

off farty-far that has good ravs.

by liam on Jul 10, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet! and we can go to the breadCo down where it hits woods mill afterwaaard

Shame about the Panera buyout

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huntsville High '02 in the house!

I just wanted to feel like part of the crew :(

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eastside '01

represent

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ursuline 04!

Man, now I just feel like an outsider…

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

117 pitches in his last start

hopefully he’s on a short leash today.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 10, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now let's get some freakin runs

Pujols, Glaus Ankiel. Next inning.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

against this team in this park, you kind of have to expect Looper to bleed runs a bit. He’s managed to not have a horrendously bad inning yet.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

back to back to back

Lets Go!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could someone let me know

Why in the all star game’s ads 2 Cards are showcased as being “baseball greats” and one of them is NOT Ludwick.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

0 for 9 now, with 1 BB

For a whopping .100 OPS

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

I misremembered. Make that 1 for 9 with a whopping .300 OPS

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moyer striking out Pujols? What the?

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I think

the umps have really gotten into the Cardinals’ heads.

They’re all swinging at shit within two baseballs’ width of the zone.

by liam on Jul 10, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

How does Jamie Moyer get by in MLB with an 81-mph fastball?

Location, location, location!

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

HOORAY GLAUS! Come on Rick!

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

That fly ball off the bat of Howard

was a line drive home run. Glaus, I tink the wall moved.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

tink = think

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

get big yadi

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got one. HOORAY YADI.

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jul 10, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes!

Yadi singled Glaus in from 2nd.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yadi rbi single

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by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course.

Yadier! (Did you know that he has two brothers that are MLB catchers? And that he has one brother that is an accountant?)

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 10, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phillies booth

is going on about Yadi’s blazing speed relative to his brothers.

by bobeans on Jul 10, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

that

is a good topic for conversation

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tatis hit a 3R HR today

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw it as a 2 run 2b

could be wrong

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually you're right

Stupid Phillies announcers said they had a 3-0 lead thanks to him, and I drew the wrong inference

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

no worries

I thought the same thing when the announcers spoke on it. Good thing they put up a graphic to help out.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it when Yadi bats

As long as there isn’t someone on first with less than two outs

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

probably

someone else, or no one else called it.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotchya.

good communication. gotta love it.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

To much koolaid last night

I just can’t seem to get into this game.

by Evilfrog on Jul 10, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

a koolaid hangover

must be rough

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way

Whoever said that these should be the Phils’ everyday unis…

I respectfully disagree. Like the red pinstripes much better

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

they look like mobsters.

pinstripes have no place in baseball.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once again

I respectfully disagree

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was me

I still like these unis better. They look like they came right out of the 40s. The best era of baseball unis ever

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

You respectfully disagree about the pinstripes or about “mobsters have no place in baseball”?

by punditmoi on Jul 10, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kennedy to the pitcher

So you think I’m funny?
You think I’m a clown?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny haha?

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

More of a Miles thing

Y’know, being a short, nasty Joe Pesci like character.

by liam on Jul 10, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Birds!

Settle in now.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

great catch kennedy

great

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

This Applebees commerical

I believe has the same voiceover as that idiot in the 90 billion ‘Olde Style’ commercials on Cubbies radio.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 10, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

huge Dodger's fan

It must drive her nuts to wear gear for everyone

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jay Randolph were calling the game

you think he’d ask her about Poison Ivy II?

‘cause I could see it happening.

by liam on Jul 10, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd go into her booth

And help her broadcast a baseball game.

No innuendo here, I just want to broadcast some baseball with my favorite person named after a cookie.

by mojowo11 on Jul 10, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, Bernie does it again!
There are in-house options, including young starters, and you could do a lot worse than Brad Thompson as a No. 5 guy in the rotation.

He is in love with Brad Thompson! It truly is amazing to me that he keeps calling for that.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 10, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought he earned a spot start

after his last two extended outings.

by liam on Jul 10, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

But as a spot starter, I don't think he's significantly better or worse than our other in house options

when you consider that Garcia/Boggs will likely have their development stunted a bit by a turn in the rotation.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he specifically names Brad Thompson over and over again

this is like the 4th column in a row he’s done it. It’s like he throws out ‘young starters’ without actually paying attention to who they are as a cover and then goes…..”Well, ya know…there is Brad Thompson. Did I mention Brad Thompson? Brad Thompson, you can do worse than that guy.”

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 10, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He deserves a shot.

He has served this organization well the last few years cleaning up other people’s trash. When he starts he is serviceable and the only way he can get better is to start more.

Thompson should be our 5th starter until we come up with a different option.

by Egyptian on Jul 10, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Garcia is an asset and should not be screwed with just because we are in a pinch. He is a year or more away, then I want to see him in the bullpen, then he can start.

Boggs – How is that different than Thompson?

Reyes … unless it is a showcase for an impending trade, I don’t want to see him again. He has had enough chances.

Those 3 are not options that should get in Thompson’s way.

by Egyptian on Jul 10, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

As sad as this is to say

Boggs is a better pitcher than Thompson.

Reyes is a better pitcher than Thompson as well, chances really don’t matter. Same could be said for Thompson.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 10, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we talk about the game?

After all, there is one going on right now.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

not much to talk about

unless DPs get you excited

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought you were talking to us

not the announcers

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I shouldve clarified

my apologies.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

no worries

shes a pretty girl and all, but your job is to call a game.

Good grief, theyre still talking about it/her.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 10, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And for some reason, talking about Alyssa Milano = switch camera to ball girl

That hit was a heart attack.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

While he was sleeping, he hit into a bunch of outs

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice.

i’ll admit. it I had to IMDB that.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am glad to get outta that inning.

and with Ludwick and Pujols, I feel good about this one.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

Just keep chipping away at the lead

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glaus has a pretty good track record against Moyer

Let’s see something!

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

ank took the first pitch!

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

And it was a good pitch

He probably wants that one back

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Man, I can’t believe how far behind mlb.tv is

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs winning, Brewers losing

I’m getting sick of this shit. I’m out to find something to eat

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 10, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Can somebody

tell the team that Moyer doesn’t throw it faster than 83 mph!!!

by chicagocardfan on Jul 10, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Lord,

Please send us a bat. Preferably one that can hit lefties.
And all the people said…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 10, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

So tired of his fat ass.

No average. No defense. Just lots of pop-ups that find the seats.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 10, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't hate him so much

had he not taken the MVP away from Pujols when Pujols was clearly the better player.

by Egyptian on Jul 10, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's just not that good.

He’s big, so when he gets into one it gets out of the ballpark. He brings nothing else to the table. At all. Yet he kills the Cardinals…

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 10, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

uhh dont know what game you are watching

but they aren’t exactly cheap home runs he is hitting

by FunkeeC on Jul 10, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

that last one was a bomb.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 10, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hardly

I wouldn’t call the third row right down the left field line a “bomb.” It was probably 350-360 feet.

by mojowo11 on Jul 10, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was sarcasm.

FunkeeC said Howard wasn’t hitting any cheap home runs.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 10, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, howard drills us again

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The way it's going it's going to be

the 6th game of 9 games this month where we score 2 runs or less

by KYCards on Jul 10, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

this game is so frustrating

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jul 10, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

How is that a homerun?

wow,

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Jul 10, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

¡Bienvenidos a Phlidelphia!

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

now I have

the one line I know from that Will Smith song stuck in my head

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Jul 10, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

city of brotherly love

and tiny, tiny ballparks.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I"m so glad vlad guerrero is in the AL

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is this a horrible start?

its not like the Phillies offense doesn’t have some firepower…especially in their park.

by longhornscardinals on Jul 10, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

This game is way more on the offense than it is on Looper.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

the park is really small. We should have more runs up too.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But, we don't have an offense.

If we don’t win with pitching … we lose.

by Egyptian on Jul 10, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

And hopefully, we’ll see a healthy Carp and Wainwright push him out of the rotation soon enough. But for now, he’s a servicable stopgap.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 10, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true

but when this team has such a small margin for error it gets frustrating watching Looper.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 10, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you bash looper when every days you were waiting for Mulder?

Lets just be consistent. If this were yesterday it would be called a “great success”

Its not good, not bad, just average for the guy. The real problem is the offense just isn’t getting it done.

by DriverZn on Jul 10, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but our offense is a joke as of late

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus, as far as im concerned,

a 4.25ish ERA from your 4th starter isn’t all that bad.

by longhornscardinals on Jul 10, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has been coming for longer than that.

His average game is getting much worse. Someone can look up the stats, but he is just losing something. Perhaps batters are adjusting to him.

by Egyptian on Jul 10, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh. New rule.

If you are going to swing at balls in the dirt, wait until the 9th inning. At least then we know it’s coming.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Jul 10, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Mather sighting?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 10, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

You're wrong...

...it’s Jim Halpert from “The Office”

by vexedtechie on Jul 10, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

he looks like Joe Girardi

by TNTinCO on Jul 10, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets go mather

get us on track

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

jesus

dunc just killed rollins

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 10, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Crazy Trade Idea

I want to throw out a discussion I had with another fan recently and see what everyone thinks. Kind of crazy but fun to talk about. Jimmy Rollins had an MVP year last year, but other than that he has a career line of an above average MI guy with great speed and a little power. Check out the seasonal averages. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=4258

Philly has an unproven young pitcher, a veteran pitcher who is about to be on Social Security, and a 40 year old reliever who just went on the DL. All are questionable for the future. If we packaged something like Ryan, Perez, and a third, would Philly even talk?

Rollins has a two years left, so it wouldn’t necessarily be a rent a player deal, and there have been a couple of times when he and Manuel have had some public disagreements. How crazy is the idea?

by MississippiCard on Jul 10, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

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