You know If it weren’t for The NL West being so bad and the Rockies feeling like they’re stil in it…I think we could have had a chance to get Holliday…but I doubt they will trade him right now since they are still in it.

I really don’t see how we can get an “impact bat” right now with so many teams still in contention…and the ones that are not ..don’t have a viable “impact bat” worth trading someone like Rasmus for. Of course there is a guy sitting at home right now with the last name of Bonds that wouldn’t cost us any prospects….................

maybe a little bullpen help but nothing we’d have to sell the farm for

I’d like to see the Cards go after him, probably wouldnt’ cost all that much. The Pads are desperate for Outfield help, who we have a glut in.

Otherwise, a similar deal to getting a Piniero, Weaver, Hitchcock, Finley, Woody, et al would be just fine.

ALL IS WELL!
CUT THE CAKE!

Something tells that with Tony pleading with Mo & DeWitt to the press about trading for some help…he is hinting that if Mo & Dewitt doesn’t open dewallet or make a trade to help the team get into the playoffs, Tony is leaving town after the season for good. Yes I will make a bold prediction…if the Cards fail to make the playoffs this year Tony will be done as the Cards manager. Even Shannon has been hinting at this over the last couple of weeks. And if Mo & DeWitt fail to trade for an impact player or two Tony will use this as a reason for not coming back.

TLR’s no fool. If he wishes to go, he will do so. My sense is that 09 could be a lot of fun, and that LaDunc will wish to be a part of the good times. . .

“Whether its in the bullpen, middle infield, or anywhere A leftly in the pen would help alot with on vallone out there and he’s not doing his job to well on getting out his priority in lefties then also a consistent bat or one with some pop”

i understand the intent… but plenty of others on this site have said essentially the exact same thing, only a lot more coherently.

there is such an urgency? The Cardinals were leading the Wild Card by slim margins before Sabathia was traded. The Cardinals are still leading the Wild Card after Sabathia and Sheets have both pitched. You have to remember that those aces will only have an influence on 16 or so games for the rest of the year (unless the Brewers let CC pinch hit – career .286 hitter with 2 hr and 7 rbi). We have played even with the Cubs since Wainwright went down to injury, so I look at Wainwright as our ace acquisition to match up with the Cubs and Brewers moves.

I do agree on the need for a LOOGY, but Pittsburgh is in a different situation with Capps out until Sept. and I don’t think the Royals are looking to move Mahay without some decent return. As long as the West continues to allow the Rockies to see glimpses of light at the end of the tunnel they will not be major sellers (Fuentes).

This isn’t time to panic. There are still a few weeks until the deadline and there are times to let the contenders contend and the pretenders realize their actual situation and become sellers.

that if YOU YELL ONLINE, IT MAKES MORE SENSE, or actually gets to the front office?

... first, the old political maxim (applicable to nearly every issue):

1. we must do something
2. ‘x’ is something
3. we must do ‘x’

second, the South Park Underpants Gnomes strategy:

1. steal underpants
2. ?
3. Profit!

there is no easy move for the Cards. more than likely the best strategy is to stand pat or maybe tweak a bit on the margins and hope to get lucky and sneak into the playoffs. all while realizing that this team is much better positioned for an extended run of excellence in ‘09-’11 than it is in ‘08. if we get into the playoffs this year, that’s icing. but the cake is coming in the next few years.

yes, we could sell off our farm system for Burnett or Holliday. but it is still questionable that we’d make the playoffs this year even with a deal like that, and we’d severely hamper our chances of making it in the next few years.

a minor improvement like getting some bullpen help or adding a mid-rotation starter might improve the team by a couple of wins, and that might propel us into the playoffs (tho likely not; the Brewers were playing much better ball than us before they got Sabathia, and the Cubs have been out-pacing us without Harden or Soriano), but it’d be a gamble with a low probability of paying off. meanwhile, we’d be trading 12 or 18 cost-controlled years of prospects (say Burnett costs Boggs, Mather, & Jay or something) for a two-month rental when we’ve got a pretty small chance of making it to the playoffs even if we make such a deal.

plus it would damage our ability to make future trades which will improve the club long-term. if we deal all our prospects now, then we are incapable of trying to get Hu from the Dodgers, if they re-up Furcal or acquire Wilson, or of adding bullpen depth in the off-season. if we’re going to make a trade, it must be focussed on more than just picking up an extra win or two in the last two months of this season. the long-term viability of the club is much more important.