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Game 85 Open Thread: July 1 2008

New York Mets at St. Louis Cardinals, Jul 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT


Armas Wellemeyer
0-0, 0.00 7-2, 3.46

thanks to those who put the kaibash on the Erin Andrew photos in today's main thread. i had my nose in archives all day, wasn't on the site at all  . . . . i don't think anybody meant any harm in posting the pix, and the images themselves are certainly not in poor taste --- well, ok, the close-up of her ass is not exactly elevating . . . . anyway, it began as a reasonably good-natured appreciation, but i sense that a line has been crossed. a lot of women read VEB, and they don't read it for the fixations on comely sideline reporters. neither, for that matter, do most of the men come here for that type of content . . . . i'm asking Erin's fans to share their tributes to her elsewhere.

tony armas has been at triple A all season long and pitching very well --- 2.54 era, 5:1 k/bb ratio over 17 starts, 102 innings. seems like he has been around for 100 years, but he is only 30 years old --- 4 months older than wellemeyer --- and might still have some years left in the big leagues. he had a 6.03 era last year for the pirates . . . .

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are you guys hearing Mo on fsn?

says we have money to go after someone

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he didn't really say

he said someone that can help now and in the future. they are talking about fuentes right now

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well couldn't Fuentes be

a replacement for Izzy next year? Next year is the future.

by Red in Chicago on Jul 1, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's 32 isn't he?

so, not so much future with him

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 1, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he could pitch 1 inning a night until he's 40

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here, here LB.

Now c’mon you redbirds, beat Armas back to the minors.

by fuegophil on Jul 1, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish

we had Tony Armas (the RBI Baseball version) on our team.

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Jul 1, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Suprised

I am suprised Armas is just now getting his first shot at the Majors. With us he would either be in the rotation or the DL by now.

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 1, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding...

I just looked him up on BR… He was pretty awful in reality. The RBI version was a monster.

by guayzimi on Jul 1, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone else nervous??

We haven’t had a GM that is willing to spend money like it seems might happen and I am nervous. We have been doing pretty good and I don’t want to see our farm system start to get dismantled just as it is turning out some good prospects. I kinda want to play out this season and see what all the young dudes do.

by birdsonthehat on Jul 1, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

imo we have to make some moves if we want to catch the cubbies and stay ahead of the brews

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spending *money* or *prospects* or *both*

We may not have had a GM (or, perhaps, ownership) that was willing to spend big money, but Jocketty certainly quick to deal prospects. I’m not saying that I dislike the result of the years under Walter (except for the 2006-2007 offseason). What I am saying is that there is a difference between touting the salary flexibility we have and being willing to pillage the farm system.

by bgh on Jul 1, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe i don't remember correctly

but it seemed like the card got progressivley worse throughout Walts tenure even though we pulled out a world series in 06

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you arent remembering correctly

because they weren’t that good when he was hired back in 94. So there were of lot of improving years before we started falling off after two 100+ wins in 04 and 05. Followed by a World Series in 06.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He spent a lot of money on that team and then we went downhill every year

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok...

So by “every year” and Worse throughout Walt’s tenure” you mean the 1 year we won the world series and than 07 right?

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walt Jocketty was hired in 1994

1994: 53-61
1995: 62-81
1996: 88-74
1997: 73-89
1998: 83-79
1999: 75-86
2000: 95-67
2001: 93-69
2002: 97-65
2003: 85-77
2004: 105-57
2005: 100-62
2006: 83-78
2007: 78-84

I’ll spare you all an analysis of the average growth in payroll leaguewide and that of the Cardinals. Clearly, we did not go downhill every year under Jocketty.

by bgh on Jul 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give you a +1

nice find

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 1, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineups

NYM

Reyes SS
Chavez LF
Wright 3B
Beltran CF
Church RF
Delgado 1B
Easley 2B
Castro C
Armas P

STL

Schumaker RF
Miles 2B
Pujols 1B
Ankiel CF
Glaus 3B
Duncan LF
Molina C
Wellemeyer P
Ryan SS

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Praise baby jesus

Probably our best lineup though I wouldn’t mind flip flopping Miles with Duncan and having Molina bat 6th but I have no complaints.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for now

i’d actuallly been ok with ak at second

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 1, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we really wanted to do it right

Kennedy would be a late inning defensive replacement if we have a lead.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Steve Phillips! Hooray!

Has anyone yet invented technology that allows you to have the live stadium audio but mute the broadcasting crew? It would make ESPN broadcasts so much more enjoyable.

by bgh on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

but when they do I will never hear another broadcast by someone not named Vin Scully for as long as I live. It’s a dead art. When Vin goes, there’ll be no one.

by rowboat on Jul 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that doesn't make a lot of sense

unless you plan on only listening to Dodger games

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My dear boy,

What I was saying was this: In such an alternate technological reality, as proposed by bgh, I would mute all announcers except Scully. I would watch all kinds of games, but Dodger games would be the only ones in which I’d listen to the announcer.

Read it again. Slowly, this time. Mouth the words as you go. No one’s looking. It’s OK.

by rowboat on Jul 3, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok Mo...

forget Holliday.

I’ll take Wolf, Dunn, and Grudzielanek in that order. All available. All second (or third) tier.

Don’t have to give up anyone named Rasmus, Garcia, or Todd.

by guayzimi on Jul 1, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a shame the O's have the best catching prospect in baseball

Because building a package around Anderson would’ve be enough to pry off Roberts.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

roberts too old anyway,

he might put the cubs way over the top this year, but he isn’t likely to be a bridge to anyone in our farm system.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wolf, yes

The other two, no

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen what...

Grudz is doing? .307 .365 .406 with an RZR of .848. Compare that to Miles hitting out of his mind at .328 .366 .380 with a pathetic RZR of .748.

Miles BABIP for June was .355 and May was an even .400. True Grudz is a bit over his head, but at least he can field. Miles will be falling back to Earth any minute now.

by guayzimi on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Grudz would be great pennant chase replacement at second that could be had for far less than it will take to pry Roberts from Angelos’s cold, dead hand.

by bgh on Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

never understood why...

they got rid of Grudz in the first place (ie didn’t re-sign him)

but looking at splits for this year, the biggest lineup need looks to be a shortstop that can hit RHs

given Ryan’s OPS is 534 and Izturis’s 580. Khalil Greene? Jhonny Peralta?

by vances law on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like dunn but don't think I could handle watching him strikeout everytime

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

when he's not striking out

he’s walking or hitting a home run. I’ll take that any day of the week.

by jeff_abs on Jul 1, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

defensively, I would compare him to cdunc

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, he's actually as bad

as cards fans THINK “cdunc” is…

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jul 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wouldn't come cheap though

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would think dunn would command almost the same type of prospects as Holliday.

Almost

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No freakin way...

they are on two different levels. Rosenthal was just saying there was little interest in Dunn. People get annoyed at the low BA…. Smart teams ignore that.

by guayzimi on Jul 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I just think he will be expensive as well

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

we already have too much of that

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 1, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Armas had 4 wins last year

Guess which team 2 of them came against?

We’re boned.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 1, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He ain't bonin' nobody

but Mrs. Armas. Mark my words.

by rowboat on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no luddy in the lineup today

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Duddy in the line up, however. Yesteday's HR may have been costly

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Armas was T O U G H on the Cards last year. Is he one of these Larry Jaster types, only against us?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

larry jaster

you are dating yourself, but what can i say, i have smokey joe cunningham’s autograph

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 1, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But here are some players in our lineup in the two games he started against us last season:

Eckstein
Edmonds
Rolen
Encarnacion
Branyan

Different team this year

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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was so mad about

the GS to Jim Northrup that I didn’t care when the Expos picked him. Man was that a long time ago.

by random on Jul 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are rasmus's numbers now

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Season .252 .355 .407

June: a tasty .333 .441 .535

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice numbers

way to go yadi

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reyes

Isn’t as exciting as molina.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THOU SHALT NOT RUN ON YADDA

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the 11th commandment

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont hurt yourself mang

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kuso X 2 start!

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what does that mean?

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

shit! ima kuso X 3

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching on yahoo gameday

(dis)affectionately known as “watching dots”

Is there any way of getting birds games on the radio in Chicago?

by Cedar Plank on Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

xm radio

My Dad and I are driving from SF to StL in August during the Cards series at Wrigley, and I’m trying to decide if it’s worth it to get XM radio for a few months so we can listen to the games instead of whatever radio Nebraska and Wyoming have to offer.

Anyone know how far West the Cubs broadcasts go? I’m pretty sure the Cards broadcasts don’t make it very far into Nebraska?

by six on Jul 1, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1520 AM

is out of Loves Park, if that isn’t too far. I guess it probably is.

Anyway, I suggest the ESPN.com gamecast if you’re out of options. It beats the hell out of yahoo, anyway.

by rowboat on Jul 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if not for yadi the bases would be loaded

come on colonel

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Colonel is down to one pitch

only throwing #1 for strikes so far—elbow barking?

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice change there

But I, too, am worried about that ‘bow.

by bgh on Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there was the change up

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beltran helped us out

by swinging out of the zone.

Really can’t hit off-speed stuff.

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Negative

http://baseball.bornbybits.com/2008/batters/Carlos_Beltran.html

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just WW and the Colonel's off speed stuff then :)

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently that was pretty brutal

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

some times its better to be lucky than good

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright

A wild pitch ends in a run down.

I’ll take it.

Settle down Colonel.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its better to be lucky then good

New Member of the Skip Schumaker Fan Club

by cyko42 on Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welley boy is making me pucker up a little bit

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Willie Randolph: LOL

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What just happened?

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wild pitch

Not enough for the runner to go. But he took to much of a lead off off of third. And he got him in a run down.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wild pitch bounced of the brick right to molina, man on 3rd caught in a rundown

by jeff_abs on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oof

damn, skippy

by Cedar Plank on Jul 1, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grit, extends his hitting streak

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love the Grit

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grit

With the double.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Miles, 13 games and counting

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

miles en fuego

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I humbly apologize

for ever using the nickname AAAron Miles. He is kicking ass.

by Cedar Plank on Jul 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Woot!

Great pick up Ankiel. Number 16.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn, pujols was limping

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sugoi to subarashi - fantastic and wonderful!

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like some kind of sushi

Mmmm sushi.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ank!!!!

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to burst any bubbles...

but he’s a ground ball hitter with a BABIP of near 400 over the last two months.

Don’t get too upset when he starts to tank…

by guayzimi on Jul 1, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i might have to

get down a bar with the package and watch this.

by Cedar Plank on Jul 1, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

seems like they always pitch dunc outside

would he benefit by crowding the plate?

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did someone say AP was limping?

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep,

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he looked to be limping a little bit

When he was slowing down trying to leg out an infield hit.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

every time he runs I get scared something is gonna happen

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now that the 1st is over, i just want to say how disappointed i am

that the pc police made a fuss over the E A pics.

seriously, if you all think that’s out of line, you really need to get out more.

not one person did or said any thing out of line, yet a very minor number of you played the sexist card, and that’s flat wrong. if we guys can’t have a little fun all the while watching our favorite team, what’s the point of being here? stop being so overly sensitive for pete’s sake.

baseball is supposed to be fun. something a lot of you seam to have forgotten.

there, i said my peace. i’m done. back to baseball.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup! ++++

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my avatar or what ever you call that little pics out right is of EA

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMO

we should keep it important things…like why B. Ryan constantly licks his shoulder and wears a paper clip necklace

by Cedar Plank on Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At peace...

with you piece. Amen…

by guayzimi on Jul 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So Duncan's homer yesterday is costing Ludwick another day off

sigh….or worse

With some of the comments LaRussa made regarding if people had stayed healthy he would have stuck with the early season lefty/righty platooning blah blah…and his comment of see how Luddy’s average dropped from .360 to.280 playing everyday….im afraid he might be going back to playing Luddy against lefties so his fucking favorite Duncan can play everyday against righties.

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

But I think Dave is Tony’s favorite Duncan. Where would he be without him?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's more of

Ludwick’s .150 .261 .200 line

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this "line" you posted

is much closer to Duncan’s season line

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Jul 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no it isn't

Duncan’s season line looks like this:

.265 .352 .491 .843

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hehe

wrong one.

238 .340 .357 .696

Neither are tearing it up right now. But Duncan has been better lately.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As joker points out below

basically Ludwicks slump is equal to Duncans season line.

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In defense of the move

Ludwick has been brutal for 4-5 weeks: .226 .300 .391 since May 20th.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PS I know Duncan has been as terrible on the WHOLE SEASON but he's looked better recently HR aside....

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this could be a rough night for welly

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I forgot his nickname is tadallion

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats what they were saying pre game yesterday

a mix of todd and his middle name allen and then they just add a little to the end

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I missed that

Regardless, I gotta go with The Colonel. It just works.

by rowboat on Jul 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the colonel better

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he came up with it himself

and he even calls a reward he gives the club house workers the tadallion

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welly

Is one of my favorite cardinals. For stuff like that.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a different breed of cat thats for sure

i really like the dude as well

according the jim hayes, the club house guys really want a Tadallion, and they almost fight over it they want one so badly.

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

95% fastballs

he’s got better placement so far this inning though

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who thought this was a good idea not to put Welley on the DL

till he was really ready to pitch?

that person needs their head examined

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welly's walking a fine line here

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice K there

C’mon Colonel. You can get out of this!

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could ryan have tried the throw home there?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes, but he would have been safe

and no one wants to see Yadda dump trucked again

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

But with the bottom of the order coming up just take the out and guarantee the inning doesn’t explode.

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by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

big out, now get the pitcher

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that could

have been a lot worse

by Cedar Plank on Jul 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed it could

Like I said, Todd is walking a fine line

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i still think he should be on the DL

he just does not look right

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good news!

Looks like they caught Nicholas Sheley

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I live in the bahamas am out of the loop

who is sheley

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was also spotted

Infront of Busch last night.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy crap

glad they got him. hope they fry him

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Bunt!

I don’t remember the last time a seen a sac bunt work with Molina being the runner.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

llittle league?

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

reyes for meyers

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no.

there are few cardinals I’d boo, but people who commit spousal abuse are amongst them.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Myers was sent to the minors today

And he had to pass through (revocable) waivers today to be optioned. No one took him.

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by joker24 on Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree, i'll say pass

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen

No wife-beaters, please.

by rowboat on Jul 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about that -1 for me

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahaha

Brett Myers to AAA

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by Valatan on Jul 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on boog, come through here

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

geesh Boog

stop taking hitting lessons from DUNK

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he does not look good of late

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on SKIPPY, get that run back

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clutch

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Armas is loving this umpire

getting that outside corner

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's trying to walk the guys, but they won't let him

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that on the Mile AB

And then again on the Duncan AB. Though some of them were getting called as balls.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's wrong with Welly today? Can't see the game. No movement on the pitches?

As per gameday velocity seems good, but little pitch variation

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by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not locating

I think movement is fine. He just isn’t hitting his spots.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all fastballs--can't get anything else over

except for two sliders to Castro

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for listening SKIPPY

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

atta kid skip

that was jacked into the gap

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jul 1, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice, skippy

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by Valatan on Jul 1, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Off topic

I’m flying into Memphis tomorrow for the weekend and am going to the Redbirds game tomorrow night. Anyone know who’s starting for them?

I’ll be sure to take pictures, maybe video, and put them up in fanshots.

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont think Skip gets enough credit.

He has been a very valuable player this year, and he’s cheap.

by ViperLjs on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He has been very valuable this year

His trade value will never be higher

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would mean Dunc almost every day

I have a feeling Calling up Rasmus and Mather is going to happen later than most fans would like.

by TheBirds on Jul 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barton?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha

Barton doesn’t exist, don’t you know that!

by TheBirds on Jul 1, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but maybe equal playing time if Dunc keeps the low BA

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I think we’ll see Skip traded more likely than anybody

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You get alot more for Skip than Duncan

At least at this point

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not among those that don't think he can continue his performance.

So I’m not as eager to trade him. I do realize we have to get rid of somebody, though, so if we could get a decent middile infield prospect or reliever, Id go for it. I really like Skip as a player though.

by ViperLjs on Jul 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the whole is

to get a good trade, you have to give up a valuable player. unless Moz proves to be some kind of trade genius

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the whole thing is*

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize this

that’s why I said if we could get good value for him, I’d go for it. I just seems that some people are eager to trade him, and I don’t get that.

by ViperLjs on Jul 1, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we might be fine without a big trade

but it’s hard to say really

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walk Miles to get to AP - he's "out" on a limb. . .

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by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

veal? venison?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Red Baron

The great pumpkin just gave me a new battle plane.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my brother is getting married in Kansas City on July 12th

and I am flying into st. louis thursday andgoing to the cubs cards game on the 4th of July. It will be the first game I will have seen at the new park because I live in Napa

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am pretty freaking excited

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As you should be

I haven’t been to a Cards/Cubs match-up in four years. I did get to see the new stadium for the first time during Game 4 of the 2006 WS

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

new park is awesome!

bring lots of money. $8.25 for a beer. and cards merchandise is about double

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to settle down Welley

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by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stating the obvious but

man did he need a quick inning

by Cedar Plank on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

Im done complaining about Armas getting that outside corner.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the shriners...

are so friggin’ lame.

...basically.

by Epic on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we went to hooteres down town today

And they were everywhere in there. Took about 20 minutes to get our wings.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fact that they took over hooters...

tells me these guys need to get out more.

...basically.

by Epic on Jul 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amai (sweet) wonder if Beltron recalls facing Wainwright in the 9th?

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by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good job Welley

Attack that outside corner…as long as the ump is giving it

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I live in Chicago and one of my coworkers asked me in all seriousness

if Jimmy E had cosmetic surgery to give him permanent eyeliner. I solemnly said that yes, it was so.

by Cedar Plank on Jul 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bret Wallace on the radio right now

hopefully I get to see him when I go see a Quad Cities game in a few weeks

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Could we include him in a possible trade?

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

you can’t trade a draftee until a year after he has been drafted

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh for real

I did not know that

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if Dunc played every day

how many K’s do you think he’d rack up over a season?

by Cedar Plank on Jul 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C. Dunc...

looks like a lumberjack who happens to play baseball

...basically.

by Epic on Jul 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

except when Ankiel looks bad

not much worse than that

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ankiel can look bad

but his swing is much more compact than Duncan’s. I’m really amazed that nobody ever made him shorten that swing.

by ViperLjs on Jul 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he really needs to sit on that outside pitch and take it the other way

cus that is all they are throwing him

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by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell does he try to pull every single pitch.

Seems like in the infinite changes he’s made when he tried to hit he might have figured out that hitting the ball the other way works sometimes.

by TheBirds on Jul 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he must be panicky

cuz he’s been sucking for a while now

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dunc at .235

how long are they gonna keep him up

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he should play in a Japan league or other country

where it’s more competitive than the minors but not quite mlb level. although that might be entirely not possible for all I know

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not going anywhere.

That fluky fly-ball HR bought him about 3 weeks worth of starting time. Not necessarily all at once, but he’ll be around a lot.

by ViperLjs on Jul 1, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is what duncan needs to do

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be refreshing to have a 1-2-3 inning. Check that - miraculous!

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by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if the mets tie it

I’ll be the sexist and start posting pics of EA

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jinx

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad decision

no reason to give Castro a fastball to hit

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DP ball from Armas if Castro had walked

and we’re still ahead

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kuso - do NOT need a three-inning stint from the starters today. . . .

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by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bahamaredbird --

Larry specifically called that out in the intro. Please refrain from posting them. They’re going to be deleted. It’s not clever; let it go.

by azruavatar on Jul 1, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's only a pic

a see nothing wrong with it. If they don’t like it they’ll throw me out

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing wrong with that pic

Just that the guy who owns this place asked for it not to be posted. Something wrong with ignoring his requests.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

your right they will.

especially since Larry already said he saw something wrong with it. Just don’t post them anymore.

by azruavatar on Jul 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I won't post any more but if they score 20 you owe me one

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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks AZ

appreciate the backup

by lboros on Jul 1, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

let's go Colonel

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You've seen th movie right?

Well, think of last year’s Welley as the pre-freak elbow injury Henry Rowengarter. Something must have happened to Welley in the offseason to make him into the freak elbow injury H.R. and then his elbow got hurt and he’s turning back into his old self.

I’m only half joking though

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

most improved probability, but i don’t think he qualifies as a rookie

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talking about the movie

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry red, I gotcha

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, lets go get some runs

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welly

seems to have trouble throwing sliders. They don’t locate, at all. if they do they’re being smacked. He’s pure FB/Change.

Is his elbow really ok? Or is that pitch really not there?

Changeup seems a little quick for my liking considering where his FB range is, but all in all, the slider worries me.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

someone else suggested that he came back too soon.

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wallace

is on FSN now. The Cardinals are really pushing this youth movement.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cool

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was on the radio earlier

said that the deal was done rather quick but the time was him getting packed away from A.S. and getting back.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They took a whole month less

To sign him than last years pick.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rick Ankiel was telling him his experiences in the bigs

Do we really want to scare the kid on the day he signed?

I kid, I kid.

by azruavatar on Jul 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not the most

normal career to hear stories from

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

-1

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job

brendan ryan!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good job

Brendan Ryan! (again)

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks again

mets!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We should trade for J.C. Romero

If we’re talking LOOGYs

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Boog!

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dan McLaughlin

“Brett your lower half is HUGE!”

by azruavatar on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that is hilarious

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Wallace had rebuked with a "That's what she said"

I would say go ahead and erect (pun intended) a statue of him

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Well Dan, I swing a big bat”

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he just said it again

Pointing it out to Al now.

Im dieing here.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fucking blackouts

that just isn’t right that I have to miss that

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 1, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Skip Schumaker!

Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012

by bjork24 on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Would have been nice to have picked that one up. . .

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by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

very

considering we got a free base out of it.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how many hits

have been grounders?

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it’s that slider, I’m tellin’ ya

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smellemeyer tonight. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Wallace more

than Hrbosky. Can we get him back please?

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by bukowski on Jul 1, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wellemeyer

No esta bueno esta noche

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Que malo por supuesto!

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by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bring on the Puppy Kicker, please

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by gocards62 on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whose idea

was it to put glaus and duncan on the same side of the field tonight.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What?!

Glaus has been a tremendous defender this year

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which means what, exactly?

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay everyone

don’t panic; that wasn’t a serious statement.

Basically it means “I saw two balls pass Glaus and was forced to watch Duncan field the ball afterward.” Watching Skip and Ankiel in the other positions sure makes Duncan painful.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I getcha, which is why I asked for clarification rather than jumpin’

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

now if only we could get Duncan to get jumpin’—good jumps on fly balls that is.

tka-cha!

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Jul 1, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Normally

Tony LaRussa fills out the lineup cards. But sometimes Miles does.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

blech

wellemeyer looks awful. is our bullpen up for 5 innings because this is headed no where fast.

not to mention he’s behind in the count to almost every batter.

by azruavatar on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think

the colonel is going to take one for the team tonight

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by sportsman on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

something has to be wrong with him, the slider looks awful, he’s pressing on the fastball. They’re just sitting and plucking.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

it’s burger king nite—have it your way

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jul 1, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another ground ball

another hit. Seriously the mets are the luckiest team alive tonight.

by TheBirds on Jul 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they are but in all fairness

if they were halfway decent offensively they would have scored more than 5 runs. welley’s not hitting his spots

by riotmute on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, welleymeyer just sucks tonight

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

another hard hit

they’ve been generally hitting screamers

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't care how hard it is hit

that many balls on the ground don’t normally go through.

by TheBirds on Jul 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when you can sit and pluck, they can.

which is what they’re doing.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or

how about this?

you’re not giving the defense enough credit.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

-defense, +mets

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe, but if a pitcher was really struggling that bad

one would think they’d be hitting liners and not ground balls.

by TheBirds on Jul 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BP from the Col tonight

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by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

with his potential elbow issues, probably a good thing

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shannon going on about Lohse being the pitcher of the month. Last time we had one of those it was Wellemeyer

hmmm

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by akaitori on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright Redbirds

Lets pick up the Colonel.

by Evilfrog on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 runs you guys

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Glad he stopped the bleeding

Turn it over to the pen

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by Mr Redbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now, Tone -- using the Aaron Miles voice -- was it really a good idea to let the

walking wounded go to 98 pitches when he’s getting lit up like that? Especially when we’ve just brought up all this fresh young pitching for you?

by tom s. on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if you've been watching this game you can clearly see he's not the Welley we've come to know & love

either he’s hurt, or all his other good starts this year were flukes

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by gdm426 on Jul 1, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, he is coming off the DL with an elbow injury.

and he’s having location problems and having trouble with throwing anything other than a fastball.

I don’t have better theories.

by tom s. on Jul 1, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damnit, his last start was so good too

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let’s get something going and press them into the bullpen as well, with last night, we can start making those pen innings add up

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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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