Game 85 Open Thread: July 1 2008
by lboros on Jul 1, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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PrintNew York Mets at St. Louis Cardinals, Jul 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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thanks to those who put the kaibash on the Erin Andrew photos in today's main thread. i had my nose in archives all day, wasn't on the site at all . . . . i don't think anybody meant any harm in posting the pix, and the images themselves are certainly not in poor taste --- well, ok, the close-up of her ass is not exactly elevating . . . . anyway, it began as a reasonably good-natured appreciation, but i sense that a line has been crossed. a lot of women read VEB, and they don't read it for the fixations on comely sideline reporters. neither, for that matter, do most of the men come here for that type of content . . . . i'm asking Erin's fans to share their tributes to her elsewhere.
tony armas has been at triple A all season long and pitching very well --- 2.54 era, 5:1 k/bb ratio over 17 starts, 102 innings. seems like he has been around for 100 years, but he is only 30 years old --- 4 months older than wellemeyer --- and might still have some years left in the big leagues. he had a 6.03 era last year for the pirates . . . .
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are you guys hearing Mo on fsn?
says we have money to go after someone
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
he didn't really say
he said someone that can help now and in the future. they are talking about fuentes right now
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Well couldn't Fuentes be
a replacement for Izzy next year? Next year is the future.
by Red in Chicago on Jul 1, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
he's 32 isn't he?
so, not so much future with him
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
he could pitch 1 inning a night until he's 40
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Suprised
I am suprised Armas is just now getting his first shot at the Majors. With us he would either be in the rotation or the DL by now.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 1, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding...
I just looked him up on BR… He was pretty awful in reality. The RBI version was a monster.
Is anyone else nervous??
We haven’t had a GM that is willing to spend money like it seems might happen and I am nervous. We have been doing pretty good and I don’t want to see our farm system start to get dismantled just as it is turning out some good prospects. I kinda want to play out this season and see what all the young dudes do.
imo we have to make some moves if we want to catch the cubbies and stay ahead of the brews
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Spending *money* or *prospects* or *both*
We may not have had a GM (or, perhaps, ownership) that was willing to spend big money, but Jocketty certainly quick to deal prospects. I’m not saying that I dislike the result of the years under Walter (except for the 2006-2007 offseason). What I am saying is that there is a difference between touting the salary flexibility we have and being willing to pillage the farm system.
by bgh on Jul 1, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe i don't remember correctly
but it seemed like the card got progressivley worse throughout Walts tenure even though we pulled out a world series in 06
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you arent remembering correctly
because they weren’t that good when he was hired back in 94. So there were of lot of improving years before we started falling off after two 100+ wins in 04 and 05. Followed by a World Series in 06.
He spent a lot of money on that team and then we went downhill every year
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Walt Jocketty was hired in 1994
1994: 53-61
1995: 62-81
1996: 88-74
1997: 73-89
1998: 83-79
1999: 75-86
2000: 95-67
2001: 93-69
2002: 97-65
2003: 85-77
2004: 105-57
2005: 100-62
2006: 83-78
2007: 78-84
I’ll spare you all an analysis of the average growth in payroll leaguewide and that of the Cardinals. Clearly, we did not go downhill every year under Jocketty.
by bgh on Jul 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll give you a +1
nice find
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineups
NYM
Reyes SS
Chavez LF
Wright 3B
Beltran CF
Church RF
Delgado 1B
Easley 2B
Castro C
Armas P
STL
Schumaker RF
Miles 2B
Pujols 1B
Ankiel CF
Glaus 3B
Duncan LF
Molina C
Wellemeyer P
Ryan SS
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Praise baby jesus
Probably our best lineup though I wouldn’t mind flip flopping Miles with Duncan and having Molina bat 6th but I have no complaints.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
for now
i’d actuallly been ok with ak at second
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
If we really wanted to do it right
Kennedy would be a late inning defensive replacement if we have a lead.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
No Steve Phillips! Hooray!
Has anyone yet invented technology that allows you to have the live stadium audio but mute the broadcasting crew? It would make ESPN broadcasts so much more enjoyable.
I don't think so
but when they do I will never hear another broadcast by someone not named Vin Scully for as long as I live. It’s a dead art. When Vin goes, there’ll be no one.
that doesn't make a lot of sense
unless you plan on only listening to Dodger games
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
My dear boy,
What I was saying was this: In such an alternate technological reality, as proposed by bgh, I would mute all announcers except Scully. I would watch all kinds of games, but Dodger games would be the only ones in which I’d listen to the announcer.
Read it again. Slowly, this time. Mouth the words as you go. No one’s looking. It’s OK.
Ok Mo...
forget Holliday.
I’ll take Wolf, Dunn, and Grudzielanek in that order. All available. All second (or third) tier.
Don’t have to give up anyone named Rasmus, Garcia, or Todd.
It's a shame the O's have the best catching prospect in baseball
Because building a package around Anderson would’ve be enough to pry off Roberts.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
roberts too old anyway,
he might put the cubs way over the top this year, but he isn’t likely to be a bridge to anyone in our farm system.
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Wolf, yes
The other two, no
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Have you seen what...
Grudz is doing? .307 .365 .406 with an RZR of .848. Compare that to Miles hitting out of his mind at .328 .366 .380 with a pathetic RZR of .748.
Miles BABIP for June was .355 and May was an even .400. True Grudz is a bit over his head, but at least he can field. Miles will be falling back to Earth any minute now.
never understood why...
they got rid of Grudz in the first place (ie didn’t re-sign him)
but looking at splits for this year, the biggest lineup need looks to be a shortstop that can hit RHs
given Ryan’s OPS is 534 and Izturis’s 580. Khalil Greene? Jhonny Peralta?
I like dunn but don't think I could handle watching him strikeout everytime
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
defensively, I would compare him to cdunc
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
well, he's actually as bad
as cards fans THINK “cdunc” is…
"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN
He wouldn't come cheap though
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I would think dunn would command almost the same type of prospects as Holliday.
Almost
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No freakin way...
they are on two different levels. Rosenthal was just saying there was little interest in Dunn. People get annoyed at the low BA…. Smart teams ignore that.
I agree
I just think he will be expensive as well
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Duddy in the line up, however. Yesteday's HR may have been costly
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Armas was T O U G H on the Cards last year. Is he one of these Larry Jaster types, only against us?
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larry jaster
you are dating yourself, but what can i say, i have smokey joe cunningham’s autograph
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
But here are some players in our lineup in the two games he started against us last season:
Eckstein
Edmonds
Rolen
Encarnacion
Branyan
Different team this year
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I was so mad about
the GS to Jim Northrup that I didn’t care when the Expos picked him. Man was that a long time ago.
Season .252 .355 .407
June: a tasty .333 .441 .535
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
THOU SHALT NOT RUN ON YADDA
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Kuso X 2 start!
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shit! ima kuso X 3
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I'm watching on yahoo gameday
(dis)affectionately known as “watching dots”
Is there any way of getting birds games on the radio in Chicago?
xm radio
My Dad and I are driving from SF to StL in August during the Cards series at Wrigley, and I’m trying to decide if it’s worth it to get XM radio for a few months so we can listen to the games instead of whatever radio Nebraska and Wyoming have to offer.
Anyone know how far West the Cubs broadcasts go? I’m pretty sure the Cards broadcasts don’t make it very far into Nebraska?
by six on Jul 1, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The Colonel is down to one pitch
only throwing #1 for strikes so far—elbow barking?
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Nice change there
But I, too, am worried about that ‘bow.
by bgh on Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Beltran helped us out
by swinging out of the zone.
Really can’t hit off-speed stuff.
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Negative
http://baseball.bornbybits.com/2008/batters/Carlos_Beltran.html
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
just WW and the Colonel's off speed stuff then :)
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Apparently that was pretty brutal
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
some times its better to be lucky than good
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Welley boy is making me pucker up a little bit
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Willie Randolph: LOL
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Wild pitch
Not enough for the runner to go. But he took to much of a lead off off of third. And he got him in a run down.
Grit, extends his hitting streak
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
So much for a patient at-bat...
=)
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Jul 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
Sugoi to subarashi - fantastic and wonderful!
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Sounds like some kind of sushi
Mmmm sushi.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Not to burst any bubbles...
but he’s a ground ball hitter with a BABIP of near 400 over the last two months.
Don’t get too upset when he starts to tank…
seems like they always pitch dunc outside
would he benefit by crowding the plate?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Hooray for getting up to cook dinner and coming back to see the good guys up 2-0!
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now that the 1st is over, i just want to say how disappointed i am
that the pc police made a fuss over the E A pics.
seriously, if you all think that’s out of line, you really need to get out more.
not one person did or said any thing out of line, yet a very minor number of you played the sexist card, and that’s flat wrong. if we guys can’t have a little fun all the while watching our favorite team, what’s the point of being here? stop being so overly sensitive for pete’s sake.
baseball is supposed to be fun. something a lot of you seam to have forgotten.
there, i said my peace. i’m done. back to baseball.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
my avatar or what ever you call that little pics out right is of EA
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
IMO
we should keep it important things…like why B. Ryan constantly licks his shoulder and wears a paper clip necklace
So Duncan's homer yesterday is costing Ludwick another day off
sigh….or worse
With some of the comments LaRussa made regarding if people had stayed healthy he would have stuck with the early season lefty/righty platooning blah blah…and his comment of see how Luddy’s average dropped from .360 to.280 playing everyday….im afraid he might be going back to playing Luddy against lefties so his fucking favorite Duncan can play everyday against righties.
Milt Thompson FTW!
Sorry
But I think Dave is Tony’s favorite Duncan. Where would he be without him?
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this "line" you posted
is much closer to Duncan’s season line
Milt Thompson FTW!
hehe
wrong one.
238 .340 .357 .696
Neither are tearing it up right now. But Duncan has been better lately.
As joker points out below
basically Ludwicks slump is equal to Duncans season line.
Milt Thompson FTW!
In defense of the move
Ludwick has been brutal for 4-5 weeks: .226 .300 .391 since May 20th.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
PS I know Duncan has been as terrible on the WHOLE SEASON but he's looked better recently HR aside....
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
this could be a rough night for welly
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I forgot his nickname is tadallion
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what they were saying pre game yesterday
a mix of todd and his middle name allen and then they just add a little to the end
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the colonel better
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah he came up with it himself
and he even calls a reward he gives the club house workers the tadallion
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
he's a different breed of cat thats for sure
i really like the dude as well
according the jim hayes, the club house guys really want a Tadallion, and they almost fight over it they want one so badly.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
95% fastballs
he’s got better placement so far this inning though
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who thought this was a good idea not to put Welley on the DL
till he was really ready to pitch?
that person needs their head examined
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Welly's walking a fine line here
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Nice K there
C’mon Colonel. You can get out of this!
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could ryan have tried the throw home there?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yes, but he would have been safe
and no one wants to see Yadda dump trucked again
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+1
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think so
But with the bottom of the order coming up just take the out and guarantee the inning doesn’t explode.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Indeed it could
Like I said, Todd is walking a fine line
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i still think he should be on the DL
he just does not look right
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I live in the bahamas am out of the loop
who is sheley
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He's killed 8 people in IL and MO.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/01/killing.spree/index.html
3 in the St. Louis area.
holy crap
glad they got him. hope they fry him
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
llittle league?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
reyes for meyers
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
no.
there are few cardinals I’d boo, but people who commit spousal abuse are amongst them.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Myers was sent to the minors today
And he had to pass through (revocable) waivers today to be optioned. No one took him.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
i agree, i'll say pass
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Heh
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I forgot about that -1 for me
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
geesh Boog
stop taking hitting lessons from DUNK
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
come on SKIPPY, get that run back
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Armas is loving this umpire
getting that outside corner
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he's trying to walk the guys, but they won't let him
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I noticed that on the Mile AB
And then again on the Duncan AB. Though some of them were getting called as balls.
What's wrong with Welly today? Can't see the game. No movement on the pitches?
As per gameday velocity seems good, but little pitch variation
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all fastballs--can't get anything else over
except for two sliders to Castro
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thanks for listening SKIPPY
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Off topic
I’m flying into Memphis tomorrow for the weekend and am going to the Redbirds game tomorrow night. Anyone know who’s starting for them?
I’ll be sure to take pictures, maybe video, and put them up in fanshots.
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He has been very valuable this year
His trade value will never be higher
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That would mean Dunc almost every day
I have a feeling Calling up Rasmus and Mather is going to happen later than most fans would like.
Barton?
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but maybe equal playing time if Dunc keeps the low BA
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I think we’ll see Skip traded more likely than anybody
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You get alot more for Skip than Duncan
At least at this point
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absolutely
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not among those that don't think he can continue his performance.
So I’m not as eager to trade him. I do realize we have to get rid of somebody, though, so if we could get a decent middile infield prospect or reliever, Id go for it. I really like Skip as a player though.
the whole is
to get a good trade, you have to give up a valuable player. unless Moz proves to be some kind of trade genius
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
the whole thing is*
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize this
that’s why I said if we could get good value for him, I’d go for it. I just seems that some people are eager to trade him, and I don’t get that.
I think we might be fine without a big trade
but it’s hard to say really
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Walk Miles to get to AP - he's "out" on a limb. . .
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veal? venison?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
my brother is getting married in Kansas City on July 12th
and I am flying into st. louis thursday andgoing to the cubs cards game on the 4th of July. It will be the first game I will have seen at the new park because I live in Napa
They say I look like yadier molina
As you should be
I haven’t been to a Cards/Cubs match-up in four years. I did get to see the new stadium for the first time during Game 4 of the 2006 WS
Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012
by dan on Jul 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
that is awesome, my cousin was at the world series clinching game and I called him up after they won
what great memories
They say I look like yadier molina
new park is awesome!
bring lots of money. $8.25 for a beer. and cards merchandise is about double
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
we went to hooteres down town today
And they were everywhere in there. Took about 20 minutes to get our wings.
the fact that they took over hooters...
tells me these guys need to get out more.
...basically.
by The Classical on Jul 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Amai (sweet) wonder if Beltron recalls facing Wainwright in the 9th?
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Good job Welley
Attack that outside corner…as long as the ump is giving it
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I live in Chicago and one of my coworkers asked me in all seriousness
if Jimmy E had cosmetic surgery to give him permanent eyeliner. I solemnly said that yes, it was so.
our outfield is one of the best in the majors btw
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
El Dunco is playing
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Bret Wallace on the radio right now
hopefully I get to see him when I go see a Quad Cities game in a few weeks
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions
Could we include him in a possible trade?
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nope
you can’t trade a draftee until a year after he has been drafted
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Oh for real
I did not know that
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except when Ankiel looks bad
not much worse than that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ankiel can look bad
but his swing is much more compact than Duncan’s. I’m really amazed that nobody ever made him shorten that swing.
he really needs to sit on that outside pitch and take it the other way
cus that is all they are throwing him
They say I look like yadier molina
Why the hell does he try to pull every single pitch.
Seems like in the infinite changes he’s made when he tried to hit he might have figured out that hitting the ball the other way works sometimes.
he must be panicky
cuz he’s been sucking for a while now
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
dunc at .235
how long are they gonna keep him up
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he should play in a Japan league or other country
where it’s more competitive than the minors but not quite mlb level. although that might be entirely not possible for all I know
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not going anywhere.
That fluky fly-ball HR bought him about 3 weeks worth of starting time. Not necessarily all at once, but he’ll be around a lot.
It would be refreshing to have a 1-2-3 inning. Check that - miraculous!
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if the mets tie it
I’ll be the sexist and start posting pics of EA
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jinx
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
only getting the outside corner
not the inside
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Bad decision
no reason to give Castro a fastball to hit
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DP ball from Armas if Castro had walked
and we’re still ahead
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Kuso - do NOT need a three-inning stint from the starters today. . . .
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Bahamaredbird --
Larry specifically called that out in the intro. Please refrain from posting them. They’re going to be deleted. It’s not clever; let it go.
it's only a pic
a see nothing wrong with it. If they don’t like it they’ll throw me out
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing wrong with that pic
Just that the guy who owns this place asked for it not to be posted. Something wrong with ignoring his requests.
your right they will.
especially since Larry already said he saw something wrong with it. Just don’t post them anymore.
I won't post any more but if they score 20 you owe me one
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by Bahamaredbird on Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
let's go Colonel
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
My Rookie of the Year/Todd Wellemeyer theory is starting to look more realistic
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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You've seen th movie right?
Well, think of last year’s Welley as the pre-freak elbow injury Henry Rowengarter. Something must have happened to Welley in the offseason to make him into the freak elbow injury H.R. and then his elbow got hurt and he’s turning back into his old self.
I’m only half joking though
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who's the rookie?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
most improved probability, but i don’t think he qualifies as a rookie
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Talking about the movie
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sorry red, I gotcha
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Welly
seems to have trouble throwing sliders. They don’t locate, at all. if they do they’re being smacked. He’s pure FB/Change.
Is his elbow really ok? Or is that pitch really not there?
Changeup seems a little quick for my liking considering where his FB range is, but all in all, the slider worries me.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
cool
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
was on the radio earlier
said that the deal was done rather quick but the time was him getting packed away from A.S. and getting back.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick Ankiel was telling him his experiences in the bigs
Do we really want to scare the kid on the day he signed?
I kid, I kid.
not the most
normal career to hear stories from
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job
brendan ryan!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
thanks again
mets!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
We should trade for J.C. Romero
If we’re talking LOOGYs
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Boog!
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
If Wallace had rebuked with a "That's what she said"
I would say go ahead and erect (pun intended) a statue of him
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“Well Dan, I swing a big bat”
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
fucking blackouts
that just isn’t right that I have to miss that
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Would have been nice to have picked that one up. . .
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very
considering we got a free base out of it.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s that slider, I’m tellin’ ya
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Smellemeyer tonight. . .
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I like Wallace more
than Hrbosky. Can we get him back please?
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Wellemeyer
No esta bueno esta noche
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Que malo por supuesto!
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Bring on the Puppy Kicker, please
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whose idea
was it to put glaus and duncan on the same side of the field tonight.
On with the (good) youth movement!
What?!
Glaus has been a tremendous defender this year
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which means what, exactly?
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
okay everyone
don’t panic; that wasn’t a serious statement.
Basically it means “I saw two balls pass Glaus and was forced to watch Duncan field the ball afterward.” Watching Skip and Ankiel in the other positions sure makes Duncan painful.
On with the (good) youth movement!
I getcha, which is why I asked for clarification rather than jumpin’
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
blech
wellemeyer looks awful. is our bullpen up for 5 innings because this is headed no where fast.
not to mention he’s behind in the count to almost every batter.
something has to be wrong with him, the slider looks awful, he’s pressing on the fastball. They’re just sitting and plucking.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
they are but in all fairness
if they were halfway decent offensively they would have scored more than 5 runs. welley’s not hitting his spots
another hard hit
they’ve been generally hitting screamers
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
when you can sit and pluck, they can.
which is what they’re doing.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
or
how about this?
you’re not giving the defense enough credit.
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
-defense, +mets
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe, but if a pitcher was really struggling that bad
one would think they’d be hitting liners and not ground balls.
BP from the Col tonight
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Colonel will get all star break off at least
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
with his potential elbow issues, probably a good thing
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
definitely
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Shannon going on about Lohse being the pitcher of the month. Last time we had one of those it was Wellemeyer
hmmm
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3 runs you guys
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
Glad he stopped the bleeding
Turn it over to the pen
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Now, Tone -- using the Aaron Miles voice -- was it really a good idea to let the
walking wounded go to 98 pitches when he’s getting lit up like that? Especially when we’ve just brought up all this fresh young pitching for you?
if you've been watching this game you can clearly see he's not the Welley we've come to know & love
either he’s hurt, or all his other good starts this year were flukes
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well, he is coming off the DL with an elbow injury.
and he’s having location problems and having trouble with throwing anything other than a fastball.
I don’t have better theories.
that commercial was funny
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Let’s get something going and press them into the bullpen as well, with last night, we can start making those pen innings add up
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by AdjustedExpectations on Jul 1, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
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