Game 65 Overflow thread
by chuckb on Jun 8, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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Technically
because Bourn slid into the side of the base, wouldn’t that be considered ‘turning’ towards second and thus making the slide through the bag void?
I thought you were right
but I found this wording (7.08©):
“A batter-runner cannot be tagged out after overrunning or oversliding first base if he returns immediately to the base”
I don’t know if returned immediately but you can clearly slide past it.
Wow. I go away for 20 minutes
and suddenly the game goes from 0-3 to 5-3. I should probably spend more time not watching.
sort of a Schroedinger's Cat thing?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what happens when you've got a tired bullpen
you have to use the crappy relievers in crucial situations.
No
if he misses the base he might have got an “out of the baseline”
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 8, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
If this goes to extras with our depleted rotation and Tony changes pitchers every third inning
We’re doomed.
Miles in '08
Russ Springer
has been awful this year.
I''m a Jenius!
If Adam Kennedy can make a MLB roster, anyone can!
yea, but he's only making kennedy money
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Also,
Ludwick is not a good fielder. He’s had spots of brilliance in an otherwise seemingly lost position on the poor lad.
Miles in '08
I think if he stayed at one position he would be better
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He was playing in
because Brad Ausmus is to catching as Adam Kennedy is to second base.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I can recall about 7 experiences off the top of my head where he's taken poor routes, slipped, got too anxious and dove too early, etc.
it’s not just this play
Miles in '08
Most of those are in LF
a position he has rarely played.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
mas
mos isn’t a word in the spanish language.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking we are going to need some insurance runs
in the 8th with their big bats coming up and our bullpen gassed.
Tonight
After everyone leaves “The Juicebox” I hope it burns. I hope they get a new venue and everything, but this park has to go.
I''m a Jenius!
If Adam Kennedy can make a MLB roster, anyone can!
I've been to several games there
it isn’t that bad of a place to watch a game. The dimensions are ridiculous though
and it is shaped like a lopsided diamond
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
so what you're saying is you like MM Park?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
a bit of sarcasm there
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked it when it was Enron
the name was more fitting for such a shitty stadium
by Cardsfan_inCHI on Jun 8, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't mind it
it is nice to watch a game in 75 degree climate controlled stadium when it’s 97 and 100 percent humidity outside. But thast being said the dementions suck the craford boxes are stupid theres no reason for a hill and a flag pole in the field of play
+1 or more runs would be nice
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
whew
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 8, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
Look at Brendan Ryan
such ‘still’ hands. Look at the way he ‘glides’ to the ball. So ‘smooth’. So ‘effortless’.
if only he dove for those easy balls to his right...
instead of fielding them standing up. Then everyone would consider him the Best SS Evar ;)
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
In order to win this game
We’re going to need 7 more runs and a “defensive” replacement for Brian Barton.
I''m a Jenius!
If Adam Kennedy can make a MLB roster, anyone can!
you really think our bullpen is going to cough up 8 runs?
by Cardsfan_inCHI on Jun 8, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
just a typical 7th inning move for Tony
not my personal choice
I''m a Jenius!
If Adam Kennedy can make a MLB roster, anyone can!
Lee looked genuinely surprised to find that ball in his glove.
He had time to eat a sub sandwich in the time that ball stayed in the air. Talk about a major league pop-up.
I think we should start using the Cardinals medical staff
buzz words in game situations.
A quick, sharp pick = impingement
A routine fly ball = mild irritation
Error = Tightness in joint.
That joint/area can be Left shoulder = SS, Right Shoulder =2B, Right Elbow = 1B, Left Elbow = 3B, Groin = Catcher, Abdomen = Pitcher
glad Barton is getting more playing time
he needs to raise that BA
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
OT
Anybody planning on watching the U.S. National soccer team’s game later on ESPN classic?
I''m a Jenius!
If Adam Kennedy can make a MLB roster, anyone can!
I'm undecided
Not a soccer fan at all, but I don’t have Extra Innings and the NBA Finals game isn’t on until later.
I''m a Jenius!
If Adam Kennedy can make a MLB roster, anyone can!
we only have 6 disabled starters
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That reminds me
I’ve really wanted to ditch this account and start a a new one with the user name “mulders arm slot”
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
you could make it your signature
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Perez
Horton astutely observing that he’s pitching in the likely highest leverage situation here.
Does Perez have a nickname yet, and if not, why not?
i like to use
CP63 – an obvious theft of Chris Paul’s nickname (or at least a variation thereof)
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Where the hell was that call?
This umpire is seemingly only calling strikes in the top half of the inning.
he just blew that guy away
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait you can get an out on a batter without him hitting it?
Someone should alert Dave Duncan about this.
Duncan is checking his books
for another instance. He may have to even hit the stacks tonight to see if it has EVER happened before.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i do believe that Chris Perez
just sent a message to mr tejada… that was beautiful.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
It seems pretty suspicious
After Tejada all but put on a crown and held his arms in the air declaring himself king of the universe after the home run he hit yesterday when his team was down 5 runs.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I had the same thought
I also thought Tejada was being a bit over demonstrative over a fly ball that barely made it to those stupid boxes.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 9, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to ask questions I might not want to know the answer to
But…Uh.. How to you wrap a groin?
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
its the inner upper thigh
so tight around the thigh and then wrap the ace around your waist alteranating each time around. The tighter the better.
He bounces it
45 feet from the mound.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It still had to go about 50 feet
in every other park.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
at least off the wall in Busch, probably into the bullpen.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 9, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
call that one laced
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
can someone tell me why
tlr just pulled perez when he pitched a heckuva partial inning?
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 8, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
only the Mastermind knows
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Flores
lefty-righty split is not misleading though.
Why the hell do I bother to watch games like this ?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
you are fucking kidding me
How the hell do you pull him after just giving up one hit? He has way too short a chain with Perez. Shit like this makes me think he wants to lose sometimes.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
at least Perez won't be getting tired
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Just wants the platoon matchup, as usual.
Which isn’t to say it’s (1) going to work, (2) right, (3) best for Perez long-term. But I’d have been surprised if he did anything else.
randy is on thin ice i'm afraid
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
who's in Memphis
that throws lefty?
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
3rd base coach. it’s like the Astros want us to win
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
Not according to the radio announcers
But Gameday still hasn’t changed – it has the score at 5-5
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 8, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought to myself when randy came in t
tis is the game
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
can we please get some more runs
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 8, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
that would require a second inning of scoring
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
for some reason he stopped at third , even though the throw went to 2nd
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
times like these
I wish i still smoked.
Come on now. With 2 Lefties comming up in a row you know that Tony was going to go to the lefty.
I picked a hell of a time to stop sniffing glue
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like i picked the wrong day to stop
taking anphetamines(sp)
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Guess I picked the wrong day
to stop drinking.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess I picked the wrong day
to give up amphetamines.
by Andyfantastic on Jun 8, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
this man need to be taken to a hospital
a hospital what is it..a large building full of patients but thats not important right now
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Rusty...
Have you ever been to a turkish prison?
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
sheesh
that was almost ugly
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
That was not a good use of a reliever
just bad baserunning
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Nah
I figured worse case scenerio he’d take a step on the hill and it’d hit his forehead instead of his hat.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
order for dfa status
kennedy, flores, springer coming on
bullpen going down hill fast; maybe we actually need thompson?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I'd rather see Parisi back in the bullpen
He was fine as long as he wasn’t starting.
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
me too, but
wer’re talking tlr here
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
God bless you Hard-core
Lohse has never been lucky in these situation, being so bad and all.
Sometimes it takes a guy with no lucky ragging on you to change things up…...
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 8, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
are you saying hardcore has "no lucky"
or lohse, or flores? Or you?
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
English?
I’m assuming you mean when I said that Lohse was so bad? He is when he gets into trouble. He can be dominate as long as he is plodding along but at the first sniff of trouble, there is a puddle under him on the mound.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Spoken like a true gentleman...........
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 8, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that a super ellipses?
or is the sentence ‘To Be Continued’.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
*dominant
is the proper English
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
at least berkman cannot win it for them
lets get some insurance please
They say I look like yadier molina
my bad, I thought for sure he would be out after that last at bat
They say I look like yadier molina
nice move Tony
you just cost us there
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
cost me two franklins
at 1:30 on a sunday afternoon…
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
would have cost us
if the 3rd base coach didn’t hold up the runner. but it was really gameday’s fault because they had the game as tied for a while
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
another double
from Ryan here would be nice
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
GameDay is borked
The game is tied, and Flores has been pitching for the last 15 minutes. It’s like a terrifying alternate universe!
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
And they just put up a video for Estrad's RBI double!
Seriously, WTF GAMEDAY?!
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by dan on Jun 8, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
both espn AND mlb are saying it's 5-5...
what is the deal? and both are stalled not updating the 9th…
Top of 9, 2 out, 5-4 STL
Mather at the fish, Skip on 2nd
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
respecting him to get to AP
and the crowd boos…
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
go for just "the beav"
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
hes 0-6
against Valv
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Nope, just borked
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by dan on Jun 8, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
2 on, 2 out
Albert at the plate, top of 9
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It's like I'm listening to the radio!
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by dan on Jun 8, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
dynamite drop-in there Marty
looks like that broadcasting school in the off-season really paid off
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
haha i posted wrong but u got the point
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
dynamite drop in monty
that broadcasting school paid off
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
albert just looks way out of sync, wonder if leg hurts his stride at the plate?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
BOY, does this team need a day off
tomorrow can’t come soon enough.
"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean
by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 8, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions
Its a damn good thing he doesnt know how much I hate his guts
Not APu though
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
1,2,3
thts how this inning is going to go….dont know if 1,2,3 are all going to be outs,but….
I hope 1,2,3 aren't the runs they score
Because they only need 2
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by dan on Jun 8, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't felt this awful since we saw that Ronald Reagan film.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when you took that bad acid
And told everybody you were Jesus Christ?
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's at the fish?
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by dan on Jun 8, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I heard that
Mather was at the fish.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey homie, I can dig it.
You know he ain’t gonna lay no mo’ big rap up on you man.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
holy crap
Reo Speedwagon ad on my Gameday….wow struggle
This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by dan on Jun 8, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
from now on
movie quotes during franklin appearances. Anyone care to second that?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
looks like severe thunderstorms tonight
for BB King at Blues Fest. there goes the weekend
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
ufb
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
and that is a winner!
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 8, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
ok, indulge me
I admit – I don’t get it
Franklin = beer?
I get the reference if that is the case, just want to make sure :)
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The Astro announcers are close to being doubled over in pain right now
they are in absolute shock. They can’t believe what happened today and keep saying how tough of a loss this is. I think I hear the color man quietly sobbing
ned to watch more pirate games i guess
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
don't call me shirley
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 8, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks Frankenstein
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
I figure that'll ride out
for another week or so in the game threads.
Tomorrow being an off-day, it’ll pop up a few times, no doubt.
And I’ll laugh.
when did we do princess bride?
I totally missed that one. Was it in the last week?
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
Dammit!
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
stoopid overzealous pinky finger
I’m sorry I missed that one…
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
time for a nice vodka mixed drink
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
What, me scared?
Never. It was in the bag!
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
so are we close to first place again?
how many games are the cubs up on us now?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions
2 games back of the Cubs
they still play @ Dodgers tonight
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
wow..just watched the vid on Erstad's double...
we should buy the third base coach a nice steak dinner cause we owe him for this win.
The matey's of the Pequad
finally find their Johna!!!!!!!!!!! Love you Hare—core
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 8, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
we even made a winner out of Lohse
7-2, very nice.
so who will overpay him this coming off-season?
I can’t see the Cards paying what Boras is going to want for this guy if he wins 14-16 games
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm hoping someone overpays for him
on July 31st, actually ;)
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
touche
good point – that might be a lovely situation (assuming everyone else is healthy)
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The Rays GM
would actually kick Mo in the junk if he offered that trade. Price is a future Ace.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Well
That was some sweet sarsaparilla out of Franklin to close out the game. Surprisingly Easy, Nice, Refreshing, and Smooth, with a side of sweetness because it was against the ‘stros in a come from behind victory to take the game and the series. 4-4
somebody posted that info
either on here or future redbirds
c’mon someone has to have that link handy
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Checking the draft tracker...
Scott Gorgen RHP from Irvine
Ray Asaro RF from Irvine
Jared Bradford RHP LSU pitching in the game for LSU (3ip, 1k, 4h, 1r so far)
After I turned it on
Irvine exploded on Bradford, putting up six runs in the inning before he coaxed a well-turned DP ball.
Bradford just got Asaro out on a Baltimore Chop to 3rd.
Brendan Ryan
star of the game
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
I got Mork and Mindy down here
nothing beats a refreshingly funny Robin Williams before he was “funny”
A friend of mine met him last week
took him to a shitty bar that had open mic and he rocked it for 45 minutes straight.
that's sweet and to be the folks at that bar thinking oh hell shitty open mike night
and to be treated to robin williams ripping on and everyone else in the room. priceless
Did that game feel to anyone else
like the flipside of last Monday’s game against the Pirates? Another series-ending contest, a starting pitcher for the home team seemingly coasting to a win (Wainwright for us vs. the Bucs, Rodriguez for them today), then crumbling in the 7th with a lot of two-out mistakes. It’s almost as if the baseball gods said they wanted the Cards to win last Monday and lose today; the mortals on earth got it wrong; but the result was the same.
except the Pirates had a grand slam and the Astros just handed us the game today
btw, I used to work with someone named Brian Gunn. do you live in Chicago?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, i don't live in chicago
hope he represented the name well, though
agreed
I’d love to believe Thursday night was a blip for Franklin as closer – rather than something we’ll see regularly (read: Izzy)
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
to the cardinals, maybe...
the astros and pirates might disagree.
I’m just shocked the GOB didn’t punish us for pulling the best reliever on the team in favor of a lefty-lefty matchup featuring a lhb with no real L-L splits and a LHP with a significant reverse split. Then again, the GOB are fickle; they may have punished us in April for something they knew TLR would do in may.
Let us hope.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
A good read on our "All Draft Team" over at Future Redbirds
gives you some good incite on the best players taken by the Cards at each position.
http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/07/the-all-draft-team/
boo cubs, hooray beer
Wallace on TV tonight
ASU vs. Fresno State – ESPN2 @ 10 eastern.
Check out our 1st round draft pick.
Im more interested in his velocity
At this point. His ability to get batters should come back if he is healthy and gets a consent delivery.
His defense didn't do him any favors
Holy Shit.
Tyler Greene just went all Elijah Dukes on Arkansas. Seriously.
The S-Cards were down 6-2, climbed back. Brian Stavisky (who went to the same very small high school as Josh Kinney) homered in the top of the tenth to put Arkansas up by a run.
Tyler Greene comes back in the bottom of the tenth to hit a walk-off, 3-run shot.
Awesome. Hopefully Derrick’ll get the poop on Clement’s velocity again.
if tyler greene finally put it all together
that would be huge. Please, GOB, let this be the moment it clicks…
if it can happen for theriot and derosa, it can happen for greene, right?
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
didn't know this
but Skippy leads the league in average with RISP (I think it’s .394). Who woulda thought he’d be our best clutch hitter?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
so like, juan pierre is 2nd
think we could trade skip to LAD for something useful, based on a sample size of 41 AB’s?
BTW, using that statistic, Albert Pujols is worse than Aaron Boone. And Joe Mather is hitting .600.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
well
he has been pretty clutch
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 9, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
yep
that’s where I saw that one
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 9, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
and yet he has all does GIDP
I guess there is a bigh difference between a guy on first and a guy on second.
I take umbrage with this sentiment:
La Russa had a sheet on his desk Sunday morning with the starters mapped out through July 7. Brandishing it, he pointed out all of the blanks.“Can’t fill in the gaps until you’re certain,” he said.
The wild card is Pineiro, who could help fill in some blanks. Rookie Mitchell Boggs will start Tuesday in Wellemeyer’s place, certainly filling one of the gaps. The next blank is Thursday in Cincinnati, Wainwright’s scheduled start. The Cardinals’ options are limited if Wainwright is unavailable, and McClellan is arguably the best alternative.
How is McClellan arguably the best alternative? I can think of 3. Firstly, Todd Wellemeyer. That’s the hints we’ve been getting, that he will miss his turn in the rotation but not the entire rotation. Second, spot start Anthony Reyes. I assume that the reason that they think McClellan is the best alternative is that someone would have to be sent down in order to make room for option #2 or option #3 (Jamie Garcia).
But, as LaRussa says, McClellan will only be moved into the rotation as a longterm thing. If that’s the case, then that means that Wainwright would have to be DL’d anyways. So, then you could still play the Memphis Shuttle game and use either Reyes or Garcia on Thursday instead of burning up your bullpen by a)taking someone out of it to start and b)using a starting pitcher that is on an extreme pitch count.
I’m hoping that is simply Goold’s editorial comment and not the actual thinking of the mangers office. They’ve already shortened the bench enough this year by riding out injuries on guys (Ankiel) or carrying awful fucking players (Kennedy). No need to completely destroy the bullpen as we go into the toughest part of our schedule. Remember, when you have a shaky or bad rotation as 2007 showed us, it is paramount you have an extremely strong bullpen. We don’t have that and if we keep robbing Peter to pay Paul, all we will be left with is the grizzled vets that give up loud outs.
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