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Game 65 Open Thread -- June 8, 2008

Wandy Rodriguez is a pretty tough customer. We roughed him up pretty good about a week and a half ago but that was his first start coming off the DL. Over last year and his first 34 IP this year, he’s given up fewer H than IP, has a BB/9 of 2.99 and has averaged 7.73 K/9. Pretty stout! He’s also always been much better in the Juice Box than on the road – career 4.25 ERA at home vs. 5.82 on the road. Last year the difference was 2.94 at home and 6.37 on the road and it’s a trend that has continued over his first 6 starts this year. If we’re going to win another series against the Astros, we’re going to have our work cut out for us. The good news is that Lohse has been outstanding of late – yielding just 1 BB, 1 HR, and 4 ER over his last 23 IP. Could be a pitchers’ duel today.

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WOW,

Did I get the game time wrong?????

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 8, 2008 1:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice lineup today

Seems like La Russa is on a Mather/Barton kick. I like it, it infuses some speed and line drive pop into the lineup. Of course any lineup sans Kennedy looks good, IMO

by riotmute on Jun 8, 2008 1:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Lineup

B. Ryan ss
J. Mather cf
A. Pujols 1b
R. Ludwick rf
T. Glaus 3b
Y. Molina c
B. Barton lf
K. Lohse p
A. Miles 2b

I smells ‘runs’.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 2:05 PM EDT   0 recs

that might possibly be

the best offensive lineup possible at this point.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 8, 2008 2:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

iz2

no izturis against the lefty?

by Glowsticks on Jun 8, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Can we please get to that 15 over threshold?

We’ve shown we are pretty good at getting to 10 over, but they next barrier for a team to achieve is that 15 game barrier. We seemingly can’t build towards that number, especially against this weak schedule.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 2:06 PM EDT   0 recs

that was inside

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Wandy pattern

Fastball low, Curve, Curve, Fastball inside. Take note you redbirds

by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:09 PM EDT   0 recs

we have spies

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He still seems to be following a pattern so what

Get ahead with a fastball low in the zone, get them to two strikes, that start throwing that sloppy curveball to get them to chase. It’s a good gameplan.. I just hope the Cardinals recognize it and adjust.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I really need to proofread

“so what” = “some what”... “that start” = “then start”.. Yesh

by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not foul by too much

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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Boy, Tim will call those ones inside a foot off the plate

but that one right down the middle gets no call?

We are going to have to score a lot of runs tonight because the Astros are likely to light up Lohse.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 2:18 PM EDT   0 recs

tejada looked terrible in that at bat

good

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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Though I miss duncan

He would have made that lot more interesting.

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

did you miss his throw

from right field that allowed two runs to score?

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

weak arm

but not a bad fielder, they also were working on strengthening his arm, now they need to work on his accuracy too

by StLHugo on Jun 8, 2008 2:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

solid catch there by barton to end the inning

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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT   0 recs

whew

Thank goodness Duncan wasn’t out there.

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice grab crab!

That looked like a double off the wall.. Whew.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT   0 recs

how did glaus not get a double

man

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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Damn.. there it is again

Low fastball, followed by 2 curveballs.. At least Glaus is paying attention.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:24 PM EDT   0 recs

now that is what I like to hear

Kmac in the rotation a possibilty

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 8, 2008 2:25 PM EDT   0 recs

think ESPN

will have Joba like Coverage for that move?

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ESPN half the time doesn't even show highlights of Cards games

I had ESPN on for a couple of hours last night for background noise and didn’t see a highlight of the game last night. This was ESPN News btw.

by KYCards on Jun 8, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bad idea

how many times are we going to ruin the bullpen to fix the rotation? We have other starters in Memphis that can fill the void for awhile.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 2:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well the good thing is..

They said it would be a permanent for the rest of the season.

Wait a second. What’s wrong with Piniero again?

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

they said it would only happen

if either the Colonel’s or AW’s injuries end up being serious.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 8, 2008 2:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Only makes sense

If we lose one of those there’s little chance of making the offseason. Might as well get McClellan prepared to start next year.

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I like it

He has the stuff to be a starter, and they said if the move is made it would be for the whole season.
I like the move of calling up Garcia or keeping Boggs in the rotation better, but I can understand wanting to get him more time in AAA.
The way I look at it is that it opens up a bullpen space if/when Izzy comes back and is effective. I like the idea of KMac in the rotation later on in the season more than Looper/Thompson/Clement/Mulder..
All that being said, I hope neither injury to Welley or AW is serious, since they made it sound like only a serious injury to one of those would be the reason for putting KMac in the rotation.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 8, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Barton

Look for the curve

by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:26 PM EDT   0 recs

surpirsed that wasnt strike 3

the zone extends a foot inside sometimes

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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:27 PM EDT   0 recs

it's just another feature of the park

The incredible moving strike zone. Where’s it going to be? Nobody knows.

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm waiting for some sort of multi-ball feature

You hit it into a bucket i center and 3 baseballs fly out onto the field.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i didnt think i could hate that palce more

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

let the pitchers swing

they are our best hitters

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:28 PM EDT   0 recs

why is Loshe

Chewing on his necklace? Doesnt he know that there are cameras?

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Anyone know why?

Mather is starting to play CF over Ludwick?

Does Bombs have better wheels than Luddy?

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 2:37 PM EDT   0 recs

can't blame him

When you arent getting low. have to go high.

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

now that is damned funny

asanine ballpark.

Besided Ludwick just really likes chik-fil-a and wanted to make sure he got a really good look at the fowl pole.

by streamman on Jun 8, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

His height

He barely needs to run, just has to reach over.

Dude’s 40 foot high, and shoots lightning bolts from his arse.

by liam on Jun 8, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why not Barton?

I guess in THIS park you need a strong arm in CF, but usually you put top speed there.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe trying to

make him more attractive as trade bait?

by StanTheManFan on Jun 8, 2008 2:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

whats up boys?

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 8, 2008 2:41 PM EDT   0 recs

woohoo

Mike Shannon is in the booth. I can stop stabbing myself in the ear.

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:43 PM EDT   0 recs

He's quite the dark cloud, too

Saying this looks like a game we’ll lose because we left those two runners on.

by liam on Jun 8, 2008 2:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he didn't say "we"

He said someone. He also noted they got the first two guys on in the last inning and stranded them.

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe he posts on VEB sometimes

that happens around here some

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

At first I wasn't real crazy about Rooney but he has really grown on me

and now miss him dearly when guys like Claibourne and Horton are in the booth with Shannon

by KYCards on Jun 8, 2008 2:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Off topic -

anyone here know about why Youkillis and Manny had a dust up in the dugout a few days back? After poking around at overthewall.com, I came to realize that this group of baseball savants would probably be better authorities to appeal to.

by Urban Pawnee on Jun 8, 2008 2:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Manny

was upset that Youkilis throws a Zambrono like temper everytime he has a bad AB.

by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i heard youkilis was screaming about getting out like he always does

and manny was like just let it go so he flipped out on him

by huts04 on Jun 8, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That happens

I always think of the scene in Airplane! when the runway lights go out and they cut to Steven Stucker’s character holding the plug for it. “Just kidding!”

by liam on Jun 8, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs