Game 65 Open Thread -- June 8, 2008
Wandy Rodriguez is a pretty tough customer. We roughed him up pretty good about a week and a half ago but that was his first start coming off the DL. Over last year and his first 34 IP this year, he’s given up fewer H than IP, has a BB/9 of 2.99 and has averaged 7.73 K/9. Pretty stout! He’s also always been much better in the Juice Box than on the road – career 4.25 ERA at home vs. 5.82 on the road. Last year the difference was 2.94 at home and 6.37 on the road and it’s a trend that has continued over his first 6 starts this year. If we’re going to win another series against the Astros, we’re going to have our work cut out for us. The good news is that Lohse has been outstanding of late – yielding just 1 BB, 1 HR, and 4 ER over his last 23 IP. Could be a pitchers’ duel today.
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WOW,
Did I get the game time wrong?????
"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean
by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 8, 2008 1:49 PM EDT 0 recs
Nice lineup today
Seems like La Russa is on a Mather/Barton kick. I like it, it infuses some speed and line drive pop into the lineup. Of course any lineup sans Kennedy looks good, IMO
by riotmute on Jun 8, 2008 1:51 PM EDT 0 recs
Lineup
B. Ryan ss
J. Mather cf
A. Pujols 1b
R. Ludwick rf
T. Glaus 3b
Y. Molina c
B. Barton lf
K. Lohse p
A. Miles 2b
I smells ‘runs’.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 2:05 PM EDT 0 recs
that might possibly be
the best offensive lineup possible at this point.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 8, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
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Can we please get to that 15 over threshold?
We’ve shown we are pretty good at getting to 10 over, but they next barrier for a team to achieve is that 15 game barrier. We seemingly can’t build towards that number, especially against this weak schedule.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 2:06 PM EDT 0 recs
that was inside
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:07 PM EDT 0 recs
Hope Loshe gets that call
About 4 inches inside
by cloistermaximus on
Jun 8, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
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it seems
The answer is no. Lohse isnt getting that call.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
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Wandy pattern
Fastball low, Curve, Curve, Fastball inside. Take note you redbirds
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:09 PM EDT 0 recs
we have spies
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by ihavebadknees on
Jun 8, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
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He still seems to be following a pattern so what
Get ahead with a fastball low in the zone, get them to two strikes, that start throwing that sloppy curveball to get them to chase. It’s a good gameplan.. I just hope the Cardinals recognize it and adjust.
by cloistermaximus on
Jun 8, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
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I really need to proofread
“so what” = “some what”... “that start” = “then start”.. Yesh
by cloistermaximus on
Jun 8, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
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not foul by too much
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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Where did that 3rd ball to Kaz miss?
Looked pretty good
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Boy, Tim will call those ones inside a foot off the plate
but that one right down the middle gets no call?
We are going to have to score a lot of runs tonight because the Astros are likely to light up Lohse.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 2:18 PM EDT 0 recs
He will
But Berkman won’t. He’s got a phenomenal eye.
by cloistermaximus on
Jun 8, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
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tejada looked terrible in that at bat
good
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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:19 PM EDT 0 recs
Though I miss duncan
He would have made that lot more interesting.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
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I'm still waiting to see why they say
Barton is a bad fielder.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT 0 recs
If that was Skip, it might have taken his hat off
and rolled around for a triple.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
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did you miss his throw
from right field that allowed two runs to score?
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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weak arm
but not a bad fielder, they also were working on strengthening his arm, now they need to work on his accuracy too
by StLHugo on
Jun 8, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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solid catch there by barton to end the inning
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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT 0 recs
whew
Thank goodness Duncan wasn’t out there.
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT 0 recs
Nice grab crab!
That looked like a double off the wall.. Whew.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT 0 recs
who says Barton can't play good D?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2008 2:22 PM EDT 0 recs
how did glaus not get a double
man
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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Damn.. there it is again
Low fastball, followed by 2 curveballs.. At least Glaus is paying attention.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:24 PM EDT 0 recs
now that is what I like to hear
Kmac in the rotation a possibilty
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 8, 2008 2:25 PM EDT 0 recs
think ESPN
will have Joba like Coverage for that move?
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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not a chance, unless we trade him to the Yanks or the Red Sox
by RyanMac on
Jun 8, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
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ESPN half the time doesn't even show highlights of Cards games
I had ESPN on for a couple of hours last night for background noise and didn’t see a highlight of the game last night. This was ESPN News btw.
by KYCards on
Jun 8, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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That happened to me one night
Are we the only team they do that to?
by RyanMac on
Jun 8, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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Bad idea
how many times are we going to ruin the bullpen to fix the rotation? We have other starters in Memphis that can fill the void for awhile.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jun 8, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
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well the good thing is..
They said it would be a permanent for the rest of the season.
Wait a second. What’s wrong with Piniero again?
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
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they said it would only happen
if either the Colonel’s or AW’s injuries end up being serious.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 8, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
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Only makes sense
If we lose one of those there’s little chance of making the offseason. Might as well get McClellan prepared to start next year.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
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I like it
He has the stuff to be a starter, and they said if the move is made it would be for the whole season.
I like the move of calling up Garcia or keeping Boggs in the rotation better, but I can understand wanting to get him more time in AAA.
The way I look at it is that it opens up a bullpen space if/when Izzy comes back and is effective. I like the idea of KMac in the rotation later on in the season more than Looper/Thompson/Clement/Mulder..
All that being said, I hope neither injury to Welley or AW is serious, since they made it sound like only a serious injury to one of those would be the reason for putting KMac in the rotation.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 8, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
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surpirsed that wasnt strike 3
the zone extends a foot inside sometimes
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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:27 PM EDT 0 recs
it's just another feature of the park
The incredible moving strike zone. Where’s it going to be? Nobody knows.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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I'm waiting for some sort of multi-ball feature
You hit it into a bucket i center and 3 baseballs fly out onto the field.
by cloistermaximus on
Jun 8, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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i didnt think i could hate that palce more
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by ihavebadknees on
Jun 8, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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let the pitchers swing
they are our best hitters
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by ihavebadknees on Jun 8, 2008 2:28 PM EDT 0 recs
why is Loshe
Chewing on his necklace? Doesnt he know that there are cameras?
by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:29 PM EDT 0 recs
Anyone know why?
Mather is starting to play CF over Ludwick?
Does Bombs have better wheels than Luddy?
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 8, 2008 2:37 PM EDT 0 recs
can't blame him
When you arent getting low. have to go high.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 2:39 PM EDT
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now that is damned funny
asanine ballpark.
Besided Ludwick just really likes chik-fil-a and wanted to make sure he got a really good look at the fowl pole.
by streamman on
Jun 8, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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His height
He barely needs to run, just has to reach over.
Dude’s 40 foot high, and shoots lightning bolts from his arse.
by liam on
Jun 8, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
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Why not Barton?
I guess in THIS park you need a strong arm in CF, but usually you put top speed there.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jun 8, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
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Maybe trying to
make him more attractive as trade bait?
by StanTheManFan on
Jun 8, 2008 2:43 PM EDT
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woohoo
Mike Shannon is in the booth. I can stop stabbing myself in the ear.
by Evilfrog on Jun 8, 2008 2:43 PM EDT 0 recs
He's quite the dark cloud, too
Saying this looks like a game we’ll lose because we left those two runners on.
by liam on
Jun 8, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
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he didn't say "we"
He said someone. He also noted they got the first two guys on in the last inning and stranded them.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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maybe he posts on VEB sometimes
that happens around here some
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by ihavebadknees on
Jun 8, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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At first I wasn't real crazy about Rooney but he has really grown on me
and now miss him dearly when guys like Claibourne and Horton are in the booth with Shannon
by KYCards on
Jun 8, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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Off topic -
anyone here know about why Youkillis and Manny had a dust up in the dugout a few days back? After poking around at overthewall.com, I came to realize that this group of baseball savants would probably be better authorities to appeal to.
by Urban Pawnee on Jun 8, 2008 2:44 PM EDT 0 recs
Manny
was upset that Youkilis throws a Zambrono like temper everytime he has a bad AB.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 8, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
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i heard youkilis was screaming about getting out like he always does
and manny was like just let it go so he flipped out on him
by huts04 on
Jun 8, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
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Shannon just said it looks like the Cards are going to lose.
by RyanMac on Jun 8, 2008 2:44 PM EDT 0 recs
That inside pitch Wandy keeps getting
is a load of shit.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 8, 2008 2:47 PM EDT 0 recs
That happens
I always think of the scene in Airplane! when the runway lights go out and they cut to Steven Stucker’s character holding the plug for it. “Just kidding!”
by liam on
Jun 8, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
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Awful broadcast team today. Horton OK, but (Claybourne (SP) adds little... Where are Shannon and Rooney?
by akaitori on Jun 8, 2008 2:52 PM EDT 0 recs
Shannon comes over and does TV on Sundays
Someone has to help out Jay Randolph on the TV
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