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So, how 'bout that game last night? Ya . . . my bad on that extra overflow thread. I'm getting ahead of myself though.
Mike Parisi didn't look good last night. He didn't look like a major league pitcher to be honest. Everything was up in the zone and my willingness to attribute that to nerves lasted one start -- his previous one. Location was a problem but I'm not sure it was the only problem. In the first inning, Parisi threw just 4 curveballs out of 25 pitches. Pumping fastball after fastball after fastball and the Nationals were all over him. His fastball isn't even his best pitch but that's what he was totally reliant on in the first.
In the second, Parisi was let down by his defense in part but he wasn't able to bear down and get the last out. It's understandable that after your first inning shellacking you'd be a little shaky and then having to watch your CF commit an error. . . while I'm sure it's hard, you have to stop the bleeding. He didn't. Plain and simple. Again a lot of fastballs (over 60%) in the second inning, and he wasn't fooling anyone.
How about Troy Glaus ? Another HR in the 4th inning for his 6th shot of the year. If you check out his batted ball data for this season, it's all in line with his career numbers. The only number that's depressed is HR/FB. His flyballs are leaving the field about one-third as often as they have in the past. This is the type of thing that you'd expect to regress to around career norms by the end of the season.
Tony LaRussa had made up his mind that he was going to get some innings out of Parisi without destroying his bullpen. It was borderline reckless of Tony as Parisi was obviously laboring and tired throughout the 4th. It's easy to overlook punishment like this because it's only 89 pitches and Parisi isn't someone that figures prominently into the Cardinals longterm plans but make no mistake -- that was a recipe for an injury if we've ever seen one.
Mark Worrell came on in relief and true to Cardinal pitchers this season hit a HR in his first major league at bat. A three run shot that put the Cardinals within 2 of the Nationals after being down by 6. Worrell hasn't been especially sharp in STL but he's proven that he can get major leaguers out. His Memphis numbers over the last two years are superb and while he doesn't project as anything more than a middle reliever, it's nice to see him get the callup he obviously earned. The Cardinals have shown how adept they are at cultivating right handed relievers this season with McClellan, Worrell and Perez. Jason Motte is getting roughed up in Memphis right now but he's the next best reliever in the minors. He needs a secondary offering (something --- anything!) to keep hitters from sitting on his fastball but if he ever gets that he has the potential to be second only to Perez in the bullpen.
But I digress. The 7th was a relatively boring inning as Skip, Kennedy and Miles went down in order for the second time that night (see the 5th). After his 1-for-6 showing last night, I have to ask what it's going to take for Kennedy to be shown the door. He's hitting .246/.300/.283 overall and those numbers are still buoyed by a crazy good April. Since May 1st, he's hitting .164/.222/.194. This is well below replacement level production. You should be able to grab any Brooks Conrad or Callix Crabbe out of the minors and have them be a better player than Kennedy. The Cardinals have shown that they're willing to do what's necessary to field the best team this year (DL Izzy, option Chris Duncan) so hopefully it's not much longer before Kenned is simply released but he needs to go.
Let's skip ahead past McClellan and Villone who pitched good 7th and 8th innings, respectively. The real fireworks start in the 9th. Jason LaRue grounds out to the catcher and we all assume that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning. The pitcher's spot comes up in the lineup and Brendan Ryan gets to pinch hit. He hits a long double to centerfield that probably could have been a triple if he had gotten the green light but Albert was available off the bench. (A quick side note on the bench, the Cardinals are really hamstringing themselves by refusing to put Ankiel on the DL. This is the second time this season he's been more than mildly injured -- read: unavailable -- and the Cardinals just drag him along. It's foolish.)
The scene was set for Pujols. The pitch sequence was ball, called strike, called strike, ball, ball worst called strike in the history of man. I was sure the umpire had done the Cardinals in as he called Pujols out on a pitch that was at least 6 inches off the plate. It's not that the pitch even broke inward; it was a fairly vertical slider that the ump just flat out botched. Albert exchanged a few words with the ump but I was surprised that no one was terribly fired up about that call on the Cardinals team. It's not that it was just a bad call -- it was a terrible call that took the bat out of the hands of the Cardinals best hitter late in the game in an incredibly important situation.
Fortunately, Skip and Miles came through. Skip hit a pitch to dead centerfield that was about 1 foot short of being a HR. It bounced off the wall for a triple, scoring Brendan Ryan. Aaron Miles proceeded to single Schumaker in on a "hit" about a foot left of second base and 5 feet past it that Christian Guzman probably should have had but couldn't quite pick with the glove. Adam Kennedy proceeded to groundout weakly to the pitcher and stop running after about 5 steps.
Bringing Randy Flores in to pitch the 9th was a hard thing for me to watch. The game is tied and Flores isn't exactly a good pitcher. Except he had his slider working last night and it had some pretty tremendous sweeping action. He got two groundouts before retiring 298lbs. Dmitri Young on a flyball to Ryan Ludwick.
Which brings us to the 10th. Ludwick and Glaus are retired, Joey Bombs is at the plate with the bases empty. The Nats pitcher fed him everything he had in his repertoire -- fastball, splitter, changeup, slider. Mather worked the count and fouled off 5 pitches before taking the 10th pitch deep for a HR. (The dog in the apartment below me went crazy after I jumped up and was yelling at the TV.) It's was Mather's first HR in the majors and a sign of the plus-power he possesses. Mather had to fight off pitches that were all over the plate: up, down, outside, inside. The slider he took deep was thigh high on the inside part of the plate and Mather turned on it with a swing that you knew meant the ball was leaving the park. The stage was primed for the Cardinals dramatic and inspiring comeback win.
LBoros wrote about some starting pitching "heroes" a few days back. After Izzy, it's not hard to see that Franklin is TLR's go to guy for a bullpen "hero". TLR had already used much of his bullpen in the first game (including Chris Perez who was shaky and gave up a run) so there weren't really any great options. He could have let Flores out for another inning since Flores had only been needed for one out in the day game but Franklin had pitched a perfect 9th earlier and TLR went to the trusted veteran again. Ryan Franklin scares the crap out of me everytime I watch him. His stuff is average at best but he has some decent sink on his fastball and is able to command his pitches throwing strikes a good portion of the time. The problem I have, besides the underwhelming stuff, is that, statistically, he's a ticking time bomb. He's not getting as many groundballs as he did in the past, his walks are way up and his HR/FB has been extremely low. The same as when Kyle Lohse was pitching phenomenally early in the season, balls staying in the park have been a huge part of Franklin's success. The problem is that it really isn't sustainable -- as was evidenced when Elijah Dukes took him yard.
Dukes is a good player, despite his somewhat juvenile reaction last night, but I still would have preferred Perez to close. There's no good choice to close the game -- and I certainly won't be lynching TLR for his decision to go to Franklin -- but that was a damn hard game to lose after an incredible and exciting comeback. Regardless of the outcome, last night was my favorite game of this entire season so far. If the Cardinals lose another 101 just like that this year, I'll tune in to every game. Well fought Redbirds -- a tip of the cap to you.
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there was an invincible feeling
after worrell hit the HR. i really thought at that point we could do no wrong, that we were going to win the game – and after that it was no surprise that skippy and miles came through in the 9th and mather hit his HR in the 10th. i can’t really argue with bringing franklin in – you’re right, there weren’t a whole lot of good options. i would’ve disagreed with leaving flores in, though; guzman-dukes-milledge-boone against a lefty would’ve been tough. just an unfortunate loss, but if they keep battling back against deficits like that they’ll be fine.
go cards, o's, and phillies.
...boiler up.
by moboiler on Jun 6, 2008 8:30 AM EDT 0 recs
+1
But I thought we were definitely going to pull it off after Joey Bombs’ first major league homer. A couple of games (like against Hoffman in SD) they looked like they just gave up and were ready to call it a night. I prefer to see them fight back, even if they fall a little short. I ditto Az’s tip of the cap to you, boys.
by cardsgirl95 on
Jun 6, 2008 8:41 AM EDT
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also i forgot to mention
the few times i looked, the nats park radar gun was showing franklin around 85-87 in the nightcap. did anyone else notice that? i had kind of an ominous feeling at first, but the general post-mather HR high overcame it rather quickly, before dukes turned all that around.
go cards, o's, and phillies.
...boiler up.
by moboiler on
Jun 6, 2008 8:51 AM EDT
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Gameday had him touching 94...
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on
Jun 6, 2008 12:58 PM EDT
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good
i figured it might’ve been me noticing the wrong pitches. thanks.
go cards, o's, and phillies.
...boiler up.
by moboiler on
Jun 6, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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Game 2 lost in Game 1
At least a dozen people in the game thread openly questioned TLR’s management of the pitching staff in Game 1. Even giving him a pass on the early removal of The Colonel, due to Pujols’ homer, using five relievers in the first game of a day/night doubleheader that also happens to the be the first of five games in four days is horrendous managing. To make the decision even worse, Parisi was starting last night, which, again, probably a dozen people in the game thread made note. I even joked about the over/under 5 IP odds were for Parisi. Well, it was under.
Oh, and now our bullpen is crippled heading into Houston with Blooper slated to start tonight. The only excuse is that TLR was drunk yesterday, and he might have been. How else do you explain Kennedy batting third?
by bgh on Jun 6, 2008 8:52 AM EDT 0 recs
I agree but I wonder
if there’s something in the works? I dunno. He’s not stupid; he had to know Parisi wouldn’t go 7 innings.
by sdrone on
Jun 6, 2008 9:27 AM EDT
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Its called hedging your bets
LaRussa obviously felt Game 1 was the best opportunity for the win since Parisi was pitching game two. He did what he had to to win game 1. What happens if he rides Wellemeyer too long, or doesn’t make that extra pitching switch and they lose the first game and then Parisi comes out and shits his pants in the 2nd? It’s not like you could have predicted this team (not only this lineup) to post 9 runs and come back from a 7 run deficit.
LaRussa did what he had to do to get a split, and avoid the sweep with Parisi pitching. Obviously, with Kennedy batting third, that wasn’t the best lineup in game 2. Why would he save his pitchers for it?
by Tackle Box on
Jun 6, 2008 9:29 AM EDT
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There's a point in a game
when it’s the manager’s job to determine if it’s time to lift the starter.
Some managers maybe rely on a pitch count, some rely on results, some rely on more subtle things like a seeming loss in command, or body language. Mostly, I imagine, it’s a combination of these things, as well as perhaps who’s due up both for the opposition as well as in your own next half inning.
Given all that, I still can’t for the life of me figure out why Tony pulled Wellemeyer after 6 innings of shutout ball, 79 pitches, the lead, and zero evidence of declining performance/results when he knew that there was still another game to be played last night.
The only thing I can think of is that Tony was responding to critics who said he should have pulled Waino in the 7th when he was throwing a shutout and had thrown just 89 pitches. It’s as if Tony wants to be able to say, “hey, see, no matter what I do people are going to complain.”
There is a huge difference though, between the two performances, which was obvious to any fan watching. People have mentioned AW’s fastball still hitting 92, etc., but he was missing his spots badly by the seventh, and after having faced the minimum through two outs in the sixth, he allowed 4 more baserunners between then and right before the big homer—-two of them walks that sandwiched another 3-ball count. This from a pitcher who averages fewer than 2 walks per 9ip. He had clearly lost whatever he had earlier in the game despite being at only 89 pitches.
Now look at Welly’s performance: he was absolutely coasting, and, unlike Wainwright, was not losing command and loading the bases.
I believe in our last two losses Tony made very poor decisions in his handling of the pitchers which is one of the few places in which a manager can have a real impact on a game.
That said, his pinch-hit button-pushing sure has worked out well of late, and his team--pegged for 4th or worse by pretty much everybody—is in 2nd place, 10 games over .500 with the second-best record in the league.
100 games left to go, and if this team can go 55-45--not as unthinkable as it may have been back in March—then we may be playing ball in October…
by salvomania on
Jun 6, 2008 11:15 AM EDT
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+1
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Jun 6, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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If he was hedging his bets
He would have left The Colonel in since the phrase means playing both sides of the fence. In essence, he would have tried to win both games.
The point is plowing through the entire bullpen during the first games of five games in four days. It’s pooor strategy. He knew he would need relievers in Game 2, and that he’s probably going to need relievers tonight with Blooper on the hill. Nonetheless, he managed the game like it was any other, even though it wasn’t for the aforementioned reasons. I’m not even talking about winning games. I’m talking about the strategy of using the bullpen in the face of a packed schedule. Although, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that Wellemeyer could not have gone seven, eight, or nine innings of shutout or one-run ball.
by bgh on
Jun 6, 2008 11:38 AM EDT
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Even if we suppose that TLR’s first priority was winning the afternoon game, Walley is the best option to accomplish that purpose.
This decision is just baffling without postulating TLR clairvoyantly foreseeing Pujols’ HR.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on
Jun 6, 2008 11:41 AM EDT
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Bullpen use
I don’t think he really burned through the pen in Game 1
Villone- 6 pitches (he could pitch game 2)
Springer- 11 pitchers (if need be he could have pitched game 2)
Frankin- 9 pitches (he did pitch game 2…Dukes hit a ball that was fairly low out)
Perez- Did not see how many pitches he threw
Flores- Did not see how many pitches he threw
I don’t care if there was not a Game 1, You can not have Parisi throw 2 innings….....He needs to last a little longer….You learn a bit by watching him battle a bit as well.
I wouldn’t say they blew through their pen by anymeans, all of the guys who threw game one could have easily pitched in game 2.
by ICbirdfan on
Jun 6, 2008 12:01 PM EDT
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Going through the bullpen...
in the first game also meant that Guzman and Dukes got to see Franklin for a second time on the same day…they fared a little better in round 2.
by cardzfanbub on
Jun 6, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
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Last Night...
...was the ultimate anti-climax. They showed the game on MASN (Orioles and Senators), so I got to watch it as it happened (with peeks at the opening Celtics/Lakers game). We had the magic that night, we had the moomentum; we had clutch hitting the likes of which Cards fans can only dream of. Worrell’s HR had me up and screaming! Dreams can come true! Skip and Miles had me up and screaming; Joey Mather REALLY had me up and screaming! A win last night seemed like our inescapable destiny. Then…
Owch.
Dukes sticks a dagger in our hearts. Make no mistake: this is a hard, hard loss, and the club will feel its after effects for a while. To me, the true measure of a champion is not that he comes from way behind like we did (only to win), but how to rise up again after a devastating loss like last night. I think we’ll learn a lot about this club in the next couple of weeks, on the road with a tough schedule with a tired BP after a punishing loss.
I can’t complain about Franklin (aside from the fact that he is not a real closer); I’m not sure Perez or even Izzy would have done better. Sometimes you just have to tip your hat: Dukes stepped up and got the job done. He had hit the ball all over the place all night, so it really wasn’t that much of a surprise. he might be batting .200 for the year, but last night he was hitting 1.000.
I don;t think we should dwell too much on a game like this and start pointing fingers – that sort of self-destructive behavior is just not helpful. As for AK, I’m not sure what is going to happen, but something will moost likely happen soon. The club doesn’t seem to be able to make a deal for a 2nd baseman right now, and our baby birds in the minors are question marks at best. We may have to just put up with AK for a while, or (and this is the MooCow preference) just go ahead and START Ryan at second. This means less versatility off the bench, but that’s ok, we need to solidify that hole at second.
Worst of all: last night’s loss made me almoost forget about Welly’s faboo 6 shutout innings and the W we got in the first game.
:=8/
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by The MooCow on Jun 6, 2008 9:00 AM EDT 0 recs
maybe
the first 2 he got on dukes were excellent pitches low and away. then he went inside and somehow lost his ability to the outside spot again. he threw 2 in a row towards the outside, but were right down the middle of the outer half. lucky the first one didn’t go out.
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by sportsman on
Jun 6, 2008 10:28 AM EDT
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Let's not forget Dukes had a hell of a game last night.
A great sliding catch in RC field, I think 4 hits, etc. (Although Parisi was making everyone look like Tony Gwynn.) I disagree strongly that this was a devastating loss, and I doubt very much that the Cardinal players see it that way. Given the first 4 innings, I think the team will draw huge POSITIVES from it. Really, if the Nationals had lost that game, it would have been devastating for THEM. For the Birds to come back from 7 runs down with a lineup that weak (and believe me, lots of Cardinal players were asking themselves, “Why in hell is Tony putting such a weak lineup out here? AK hitting THIRD?”), is awesome, and they know it.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Jun 6, 2008 12:16 PM EDT
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Mather
I would not push this comparison too far, and I’m certainly not suggesting Mather is going to be this kind of player—but something about him at the plate reminds me of Jack Clark. I think the main thing is the way they both attacked the ball. Mather does not get cheated when he swings. He probably needs to refine how he starts his swing, but he absolutely pumps up there and even before he hit the homer last night he had me thinking of Clark. Something about the way his bat travels through the hitting zone.
They’re both tall, too. Their batting stances aren’t similar, really. I actually wouldn’t mind seeing Mather stand up a little straighter, more like Clark, but stances are individual. In any case, I certainly wouldn’t suggest he fiddle with anything right now.
by Youneverknow on Jun 6, 2008 9:04 AM EDT 0 recs
I just like the fact that he fought it
the at-bat description above is awesome.
by sdrone on
Jun 6, 2008 9:28 AM EDT
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Mathers stance resembles Pujols in the way he squats down at the plate like he is sitting on an invisible chair.
"Why does he keep saying that?"
by Red Blazer on
Jun 6, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
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He reminds me of a tall and lanky Brian Downing
mattnj
by mattnj on
Jun 6, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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Someone said Alex Rios
and if you look at their career path, it makes alot of sense.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jun 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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That was me
Though PECOTA doesn’t have Rios in the top 20 of comparables so who knows. I was just looking at it stance/swing wise but it does make sense career path as well. I’d be enthralled beyond belief if he becomes Rios.
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by joker24 on
Jun 6, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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Great game last night
Bad ending. I think I woke up the apartment complex when I saw “In play, run(s)” on both Miles’ and Mather’s ABs, but surprisingly didn’t have a ledge-jumping reaction on Dukes’ ball. I guess I just thought after we got down 7-0 that any good things out of this game were good enough. Maybe I never left that mindset. But I still think my new signature addition is the next step for the club this season. Oh well, on to Houston. Sweep the ‘stros!
Side note: Off to New Orleans this weekend for my little brother’s 21st birthday. Be back on Sunday if I’m alive :)
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 6, 2008 9:14 AM EDT 0 recs
Don't stray too far from Bourbon Street
New Orleans has really become a haven for criminals. Stick to where there are people and cops.
by indakind on
Jun 6, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
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Just got back...
From New Orleans on a little R&R trip…make sure you hit up Johnny White’s on Bourbon (happy hours from 3-5 PM and 3-5 AM—no, I’m not kidding) and the Absinthe House, two of the better places to drink and chill out. Plenty of good clubs to go to as well, and Sing Sing on Bourbon has a pretty darn good house cover band.
Also, check out Frenchmen St. for some good jazz clubs if you’re in the mood for that, (Snug Harbor is one of my favorites!!!
I’m sure some strip clubs will be on the menu, but stay away from the two Hustler clubs (Hustler and Barely Legal), Rick’s Cabaret has much better looking girls and it’s a much nicer place as well….
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
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Jun 6, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
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Almost forgot...
make sure you eat at least ONE meal at Bourbon House—it’s probably the best restaurant in the Quarter right now…sidle up to the Oyster Bar and let the shuckers razz your brother…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 6, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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How many total team blown saves
have the Cards amassed this year? Anyone with a tally? Maybe who and how many?
A little help, see I am too lazy to look it up and I am sure that one you stat geeks probably have it memorized.
Steriods is...is bad.
by Handsome Jimmy on Jun 6, 2008 9:29 AM EDT 0 recs
You could see that coming
after TLR burned through the bullpen in the first game, but in fairness to him, that was kind of a “perfect storm.” No solution to pitching-staff management in a doubleheader works well any more, even if the second game’s starter goes reasonably deep into the game—which certainly doesn’t describe Parisi. (AZ, I wouldn’t worry too much about him.)
Agree wholeheartedly about the Pujols punchout. I was watching that with my son, and we just looked at each other and said, “man, that home-plate ump blew that one.” Most egregious “outside strike” I’ve seen in a long time. But it happens.
Wonder who they’ll bring up when Parisi is returned (COD…) to Memphis? Interesting roster decisions are looming.
by StanTheManFan on Jun 6, 2008 9:30 AM EDT 0 recs
Hey, has Reyes' groundball to flyball ratio improved?
hahah
by sdrone on
Jun 6, 2008 9:32 AM EDT
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+1 sort of
ump called that pitch a few times, but was not consistent. if franklin had been able to get the ball in that area one more time, we probably win
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Jun 6, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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Reaction from being at the game:
I know that as Cardinals fans there’s no reason to justify not winning against the Nats, but last night was one I was ok with. The atmosphere was electric. Cardinals fans all over the place. It was awesome.
Mike Parisi was just bad. No control and was walking the bases loaded and just not attacking the bottom hitters in the lineup. However, I credit five runs to Skip’s mistake. Didn’t anyone see the first inning where he totally misplayed Duke’s triple? I attribute that to two runs. You can definitely say the Nats would’ve gotten one run in the inning, but that set the tone. Then Skip’s drop in centerfield was inexcusable. It would’ve been the third out and the Nats when on to score three more runs that inning.
I was glad to see Mark Worrell’s and Joe Mather’s first home runs as Cardinals. That was really exciting to be there for those events. With the lineup we trotted out on the diamond (Adam Kennedy hitting third for crying out loud), I was surprised we came back the way we did.
"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama
by Wizards on Jun 6, 2008 9:43 AM EDT 0 recs
Also at the game last night
Disagree about it being a hard loss to swallow. All the Cards fans in my section were PROUD of the fight the team displayed. I remember being at last year’s blowout in DC. The Cards didn’t show any of this year’s grit. I have lots of hope for this team. They will be in contention in September.
AK “lost” the game for us by being picked off/thrown out in the fourth before TGlaus’s HR. The ball dropped by Nieves wasn’t more than three feet away. AK had to see it, or at least McKay had to see it. I don’t see how the front office can justify keeping AK. I’ll be surprised if he’s on the roster after the ASB.
Yeah, Skip had a direct hand in giving the Nats three runs, but he did redeem himself with the ninth-inning triple. My beef here is with TLR. Mather/Ludwick need to play CF when Ankiel is out.
Speaking of Mather: this guy is for real. He’s got a great eye at the plate and puts the ball in play. Totally agree with AZ comments above. I hope he’s here to stay.
Finding a closer is now the priority.
Finally Iz2 gets a season pass from me. The guy can hit his weight as long as he fields the way he does. He got to three absolute ground rockets and turned them into DPs. Contrast that with Guzman’s two bobbles.
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Jun 6, 2008 10:12 AM EDT
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yea, promote him to iz3
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by sportsman on
Jun 6, 2008 10:32 AM EDT
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Right on, those are
my thoughts too. I was in Sec. 140, right field, how about you?
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Jun 6, 2008 12:20 PM EDT
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Upperdeck style
I was in section 405… along the third base line.
"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama
by Wizards on
Jun 6, 2008 12:43 PM EDT
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RF 225 mezzanine
Great park. I look forward to going again soon.
by gocards62 on
Jun 6, 2008 1:15 PM EDT
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It does remind me of Busch III (interior),
except in blue.
Both times I’ve gone I’ve approached from Navy Yard Metro, so I don’t really know what the facade outside looks like. Next time I’ll take a stroll around the thing.
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Jun 6, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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I thought
Nats stadium was pretty plain with too much concrete and no personality. They’ve been touting the scoreboard, but it’s really not that different from anywhere else. It would have been amazing to see the capitol from the seats, but they decided to block it with a couple parking garages. As is, you’ve got to be up around section 420 to see it. Nice place to see a game, but I MUCH preferred Busch, having visited it for the first time only recently.
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Jun 6, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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Agree
I was there on Tuesday night and was not impressed. It’s a nice park, but there was nothing special about it. Also took in a game at Camden Yards the night before. Now that’s a place to see a game.
by gdowdy on
Jun 6, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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To me new Busch isn't that great either
Pretty much a cookie cutter of all the other new stadiums ironically enough.
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by joker24 on
Jun 6, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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huh
no other new stadium has a huge ass pond
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
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Jun 6, 2008 9:38 PM EDT
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AK
Agreed about the fight and clawing back.
I think blaming AK for the loss is too severe. I agree that he shouldn’t have tried to advance on the ball. I know that he also GIDPed twice. But he did make a nice over the head catch and turned 3 DPs. Should we try to be more balanced in our critiques of players and not just point out their mistakes? Maybe I feel sorry for the guy as he seemed to be VEB’s punching bag.
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by totalloser on
Jun 6, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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Parisi.
Seems to need a little more time in the minors. At least now Duncan should have a nice long list of stuff he needs to work on.
As far as the game goes. Sucks we lost. But I said Tuesday that I love the way this team fights back. They don’t let though losses turn into prolong losing streaks. And apparently they don’t let being down by 7 runs bother them to much.
by Evilfrog on Jun 6, 2008 9:49 AM EDT 0 recs
AAA SP Replacements
Who could we call up for Parisi? I say this with a lot of concern since I was an idiot and bought tickets for Wednesday’s instead of Tuesday’s (Welly) Reds-Cardinal game.
I don’t see how we can honestly call A. Reyes up from AAA – his numbers aren’t looking great and he has yet to throw over 6 innings/many pitches down there. I’m sure he’d give us his typical 4-run 1st inning and 5 innings pitched, which is better than Parisi, but I don’t see how he has earned a call up.
Boggs is a possibility I guess with his GO ratio, Garcia is too young. But I don’t know as much about these guys as others so I’ll defer to other opinions.
Also, I guess the Cardinals might wait until Sunday/Monday to make this call.
by enoscountry on Jun 6, 2008 9:54 AM EDT 0 recs
I think the move will be made before todays game.
Parisi down and a reliever up. The bullpen will be short today so it makes sense to bring up a reliever. Also, Parisi’s next start is an off day if my math is correct. So we can actually just skip that start and hopefully Pineiro will be ready to go. Or there will be someone standing out down in Memphis.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 6, 2008 10:28 AM EDT
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heads up
parisi has thrown much worse starting than relieving. just needs his head on straight. may be best to send him down to do that, may not
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Jun 6, 2008 10:34 AM EDT
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I agree
That he has shown value with the big club as a reliever. But right now our bullpen is short. And he wont be adviable to pitch for a few days after throwing 70+ pitchs.. I can’t think of anyone else to send down. So a move should be made. Unless Tony feels we can win the series with a short pen and a short bench.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 6, 2008 10:49 AM EDT
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Ankiel
Today’s PD (Strauss) says Ankiel was checked out and went with the team to Houston. Well, he was on my flight back to St. Louis last night, left DC at around midnight. I saw him walk from the gate to the baggage area and he was favoring that leg pretty heavily. Hope he’s OK.
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.
by Glenn Brummer stole home on Jun 6, 2008 10:00 AM EDT 0 recs
Ankiel
I saw that galloping gazelle springing catch and it was amazing, what?, do they spray the warning tracks with sewer water? The man can”t wrap it in gauze? Is there an amputation in the works? Can’t they just say he banged up his knee and needs a few days off?
Other mysteries remain. TL
by BKKCard on
Jun 6, 2008 1:46 PM EDT
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Warning Track
it’s not dirt. It’s like kitty litter. If you slide on that I’m sure it would leave one nasty mark.
by Carps on
Jun 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT
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I don't get it either.....
I played baseball from age 5-22, got tons of cuts and never got an infection in my life!
I don’t know what’s up but it makes me think of the Spezio drama last year with the whole “Fake Infection”
Who get’s infections? He had the damb thing cleaned up right away last Sunday.
by ICbirdfan on
Jun 6, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
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Yeah I thought that was kind of a lame excuse as well.
If he is injured they are hiding something if he is not maybe they are just showcasing Mather and others for a trade. Could explain why Parisi was up and now that we know he sucks as a starter they bring up Boggs.
Maybe something is brewing.
Maybe I’m just bored.
"Why does he keep saying that?"
by Red Blazer on
Jun 6, 2008 3:37 PM EDT
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Dissent
Last night’s game WAS surprisingly fun, but I can hardly call it a favorite, and I definitely DO NOT wish to see it repeated ever again.
1. In the first place, Parisi is terrible. He was lucky to only give up 2 in the first. Virtually every ball in play was a hard hit liner. As folks have noted, the decision to pitch Parisi into the 4th, was a virtual concession of the game by TLR. The Nationals’ announcers were comparing it to when TLR left Marquis out there a few times in 2006 to “take one for the team.” But they wondered how this could be good for a young pitchers’ development. Good question.
2. The line-up was awful. Kennedy batting third. LaRue batting at all. No Pujols. If you remove Pujols from the line-up, you simply cannot bat both Kennedy and LaRue and expect to win.
Based upon those factors, last night should have been a blow-out. That we came back is nearly won is incredible.
But we didn’t deserve to win the game because our manager decided from the get go that he wasn’t especially invested in winning.
ps. The error on Skip in the 2nd was crap. It did bounce off his glove, but he did a good job to make it close. It was in the gap, and hit virtually to the wall. Had he been a step behind, nobody would have thought twice about calling it a double.
pps. Kennedy hurt the team even more by getting caught stealing just before Gluas’ homer. The ball got away from Nieves, and Kennedy ran for it. Bad decision. I bet he would like a do-over.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on Jun 6, 2008 10:02 AM EDT 0 recs
I'd like a do-over
Of the signing of Kennedy instead of Belliard after the 2006 season.
I''m a Jenius!
by gibbons on
Jun 6, 2008 10:04 AM EDT
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I'd like a do-over...
and re-sign Grudz and never have had to trade for the Belly in the first place….
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 6, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
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Or...
He could have left Welly in. Not got the HR from Albert or the insurance run from Mather. Left Perez in when he wasn’t locating the strike zone. Increased the chance of loosing the first game. And still had to deal with Parisi pitching the second game.
Baseball is a game of series. You play to win the series. Which is what Tony did. He made sure his team took the Series.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 6, 2008 10:12 AM EDT
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You're avoiding the issue
Post hac justifications are not persuasive. Why pull Wallemeyer in the 7th, given how well he was pitching and with Parisi pitching in the evening?
The sole rationale I can see is that arguably this was the most opportune time PH Pujols. But this rationale seems short-sighted, given that we had the lead and the dangers posed by burning through so many relievers.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on
Jun 6, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
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I don't think that...
the best time to PH the best hitter in baseball is ever with noone on and more than a one-run lead. Pujols homer had no effect on the game, and IMO wasted our most valuable bat that we may have needed later in the game…it’s reminiscent of replacing Barton in the fifth inning after the LH starter was out in April – that hurt us more than once.
by cardzfanbub on
Jun 6, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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no effect on the game?
Or win expectency went from 81.3% to 89.2%. Which was the highest change in the game.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 6, 2008 1:44 PM EDT
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Wrong
Glaus’s two-run jack put it up over 15%, which was almost twice as “impactful” as Pujols’s HR, both in fact and in “feeling” (a 2-run HR in a scoreless game vs. a later solo shot to increase the lead by a run).
by salvomania on
Jun 6, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
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With Izturis and Kennedy
Do we have the worst infield (offensive) production in the majors?
I''m a Jenius!


