Goo Goo Goo Joob
by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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PrintI'm sure everybody's heard by now; Brett Wallace is the Cards' pick at #13. Kid can hit. Let's just hope he's a little more athletic than he looks.
Here's his MiLB draft page .
Most of the draft reports are pretty similar. Good hitter, bad body. I really do question whether or not he's going to stick at 3rd base, but he'll hit enough to be excellent trade bait even if he doesn't.
Overall, he reminds me a lot of Daric Barton with better power.
Melville and a whole lot of others still on the board.
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If we can still pick up melville at what is it 37 or 39?
either way that would be great, I was hoping for a arm with the first pick. Don’t know much about wallace, hope hes as good as some are promoting, and he can stay at 3rd base
by from First to Third on Jun 5, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
I'll be very happy..
if the Cardinals can take one of these guys at 37:
Shooter Hunt
Tim Melville
Jake Odorizzi
Zach Collier
I’ll be unhappy if they take:
Gerrit Cole
Tanner Scheppers
Don't think
you have to worry about Scheppers that soon. I could be wrong, but that injury is going to drop him much further than the 2nd round.
What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?
by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Wallace...
Is going to be a LOT better fielder than what they are saying about him…..I’m telling you?... this kid can just CRUSH the ball….and his D is only going to improve at this level… I LOVE this pick as it addresses one of the true weak spots in our organization… 3rd base/ and a 3rd baseman who can show some Power at that..
Yanks take Cole.
Boy, he’s got an arm, but I fear that arm action like crazy.
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sound pick
He sounds like a sound pick and I think that we will have him at MLB in four seasons or less.
Redbirds Fun
2006 WS for JB and DK57RIP: Josh Hancock
Wallace? If he's in the minors for 4 years we have issues
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
I would take the under on four seasons
The kid is incredibly polished. He’ll be in AA next year.
boo cubs, hooray beer
no
you’re thinking of longie c**kenhall
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
LMFAO
"Cross a lawyer with the Godfather, make you an offer you can't understand" - Don Henley
by Futility Infielder on Jun 5, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Somone on the STLToday forums
said Melville’s agent has told teams that he wants top 15 money or he is going to school. Would the Cards pony up for a local kid? It would be good PR
boo cubs, hooray beer
dunno
might be good PR but bad baseball
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 5, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically every player in the draft is way underpaid even if you have to "overpay" relative to anyone else
If it takes 2 mil to sign the kid, he’s worth it in say the 4th round if we’re actually willing to pony up.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
good point
is he going to be drafted again this time around?
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll get drafted, not for what he was looking for last year though
He has a golf swing, it’s really unbelievable. He hit a 500+ foot bomb at Mizzou (I google Earthed it….among 3 other moonshots) but that swing would get chewed up by pro pitchers.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Maybe it is good we didn't sign him then...
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum
i really hope the sox can't sign casey kelly
i am a UT Vols fan, i need him to go to college…please don’t sign casey
University of South Carolina, that is.
Not U of Southern Cal.
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by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
after hearing more about this Wallace kid I'm very excited
Focus Area & Comments
Hitting Ability: Wallace may be one of the best hitters in college. He’s got tremendous plate discipline and is a very tough out.
Power: He has power to all fields, with the ability to turn on inside pitches or go with outside pitches and hit them out.
Running Speed: Considering his size, he’s not a bad runner.
Base running: Wallace is a good base runner—he’ll even steal a base here and there thanks to good instincts.
Arm Strength: Despite some funky arm action, Wallace has above-average arm strength.
Fielding: He’s got good hands that should make him fine at first base as a pro.
Range: His range is limited and he’s got bad feet. His lower half should keep him limited to playing first.
Physical Description: Wallace has been described as a good athlete trapped in a bad body.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: One of the better bats in the Draft class with power to spare and outstanding plate discipline.
Weaknesses: His body will limit him defensively, though the bat should make up for it.
Summary: Drawing rave reviews for his work in the box, he’s one of the best hitters in college and perhaps in the entire Draft class. His unbelievable plate discipline will undoubtedly be attractive to some teams, though it’s unlikely he’ll play anything but first as a pro. He could be the kind of Major Leaguer who hits .300 with 25 homers and a high OBP annually.
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 5, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
i would watch the wholesale cut and paste of proprietary content
could get sbnation into trouble.
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on Jun 5, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
didn’t know there were legal issues there
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 5, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay.
Now, I want Odorizzi or Melville at 39, and Flaherty in the second round.
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Yeah.
I’m really high on Eggs. Love that delivery.
Plus, then we could get both the Eggman and the Walrus in the same draft. It’s all starting to fall into place.
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by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Nats Game
In between games right now. Nice day at the ball park.
Miles played a surprisingly competent 3d. Glaus did just fine at 1st, with one nice snag.
I was surprised that Wally was pulled. He was pitching just fine, but I can’t complain about the Pujols pinch given the resulting dinger.
Mather had some nice at bats and looks really good in the field If the guy starts putting some lumber on the ball, it’s hard to see how Duncan gets back up. But, of course, Mather still lacks an xbh.
Good solid game against a really weak team. TLR thinks the Nat’s catcher sucks, so he’s giving the green light a lot. Makes for fun games.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
um
didn’t Mather double down the left-field line today?
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Y'all are right, of course
Mather had the rbi double. Hasn’t had many (any?) xbhs before that though. But you gotta start somewhere.
As for Miles, he played a pretty solid game. I didn’t see anything in the first that I would call an error. You must be referring to the Milledge hit, because Guzman’s was a genuine hit. He made a number of nice plays though. Otherwise, 0 for 3 with a walk and a dp.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
Shooter
goes to Minnesota. Can’t believe he fell that far. Really surprising.
What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?
Will Melville go to school if someone doesn't draft him soon? Where would that be?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum
North Carolina
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
i don't think any of the next few teams will take melville..
none of them will pony up the cash. getting past the mets is good
Don't be so sure..
He might just end up taking the college route…...he’s accepted at Louisville right?
well hoepfully
he won’t sign and decide he would rather go to louhvull and be available in next years draft with a little seasoning ehh?
You mean the 2011 draft
Gotta stay for three years once you step on campus…
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
He'd have to stay at Louisville until the end of jr year
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum
If
we’re looking for a 2B, I’d rather take Ryan Flaherty.
And as I say it, it becomes academic. Giants take Gillaspie.
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by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I
have no idea who the hell the Astros just took. Don’t think I’ve ever heard that name before.
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Welcome to the organization
Michael Lynn
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Excuse me
I guess he goes by Lance Lynn
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You didn't hear?
The Arizona Cardinals are moving back to STL
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he sorta sounds like a homeless man's jeff suppan
except for a homeless man he sure eats a lot
e'rebuilding mang
wow
the mlb draft tracker says “he won’t wow you, but will be a solid innings-eater”
is larussa running the draft today?
Yeah I saw that.
It’s never good when the draft tracker can’t even give a positive review.
On with the (good) youth movement!
we would have had to pay melville way to much money
i don’t like lynn, but melville would have asked for to much….still should have taken melville
there's only one way to know for sure
Lynn seems like a dime a dozen player.
On with the (good) youth movement!
Lance Lynn
Lynn threw his fastball in the 88-90 mph range in this outing, though he’s been a tick faster than that in the past.
Fastball movement: He’s got some sink on the fastball.
Curve: He throws an average curve.
Changeup: His changeup also grades out as average.
Control: He really commands the strike zone well.
Poise: A good competitor, he really knows how to pitch.
Physical Description: Lynn is a big right-hander who is kind of built like Joba Chamberlain and will have to watch his conditioning.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Excellent command, knowledge of how to pitch, outstanding makeup and competitiveness on mound.
Weaknesses: He doesn’t have a true out pitch, with average stuff across the board, and he’ll need to stay on top of his weight.
Summary: Lacking great pure stuff, Lynn is a level behind the elite college arms in this Draft class. But he makes the most out of his average offerings with excellent command, a knowledge of how to pitch and a real competitive streak on the mound. He’s done a good job of maintaining his weight this year and will have to continue to do so as a pro. He won’t wow you, but he’s the type who could be a solid innings-eater who presumably won’t take long to be big-league ready.
Sounds like a TLR/DD prototype
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Son of a bitch.
Fucking Cubs.
This is starting to seriously piss me off.
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Going after the Prince Fielder mold
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Another kid..
with a weight problem though…..hmmm…do I see a trend here?.... the “Jenny Craig” Cardinals?
Yeah, saw him the other day against Mizzou
He’s not very good IMO.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
He's not even a hard thrower for a big body guy
I just can’t get behind that pick at all.
boo cubs, hooray beer
its a trend of cardinals picks
every year, we have some stud left on the boards (porcello, melville, etc.) instead of spending $5-6, we end up drafting the pete harnisches of the world
What's our next pick number (overall)?
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of course
Steve Phillips has to have plenty of time to prove why he’s an ignorant anus.
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 5, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
oop - wait, he just did it
nevermind, carry on – too long of a break
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 5, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
wow...the main plus for lynn is that he pounds the strike zone
pitchers that pound the zone with 88-90mph fastballs with minimal movement get POUNDED themselves…i hope he really hits the corners…fat maddux hopefully
fat maddux?
sounds like a new Mike Meyers character
Not
a fan of Lynn, though, for whatever it’s worth, he does have a nice arm action. Given his size and mechanics, he should be durable. I’m just a little unsure as to what his upside is.
He does seem to have fairly good movement, but I haven’t seen enough to be sure.
Still, I guess a durable #4 guy isn’t the worst thing in the world.
Oh, who am I kidding? I don’t like this pick.
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He kinda looks like Jonathan Broxton
That could be good
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Looks
like him, yes. Throws like him, no.
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by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
True on both accounts
But, I’m holding out judgment on the pick until we see how he progresses.
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Probably
a good idea. However, holding out judgement isn’t nearly as cathartic as flying off the handle and spouting obscenities. So, you know, there’s that.
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by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Having just seen him 6 days ago on ESPNU
I can say I hate the pick.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Heheh
I’m into college football recruiting, and I know that many times it’s very hit-or-miss. My team hardly ever gets all the 5-star recruits, or is ranked in the top ten in recruiting rankings. Yet we’ve been very successful over the past ten years because our coach knows what kind of kid he wants to recruit and doesn’t think about star ratings. It’s probably not the best analogy, but when Alabama brags about how many great recruits they get, then we beat them 6 years in a row, it really shows that he’s done a great job.
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And a War Damn Eagle to you, my friend :)
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Michael Lynn...
Lynn pitched for the U.S. National Team last summer ….striking out 26 in 25 innings…and compiling a 2-1 1.80mark in four starts
I haven't even seen this guy pitch
But given that every analysis of him online says “he’s a step down from top tier pitchers”, why did they pick him so soon?
Cool quote from Wallace over at DG's blog
"I think it’s locked in that I’m coming to St. Louis," Wallace said in a conference call with reporters this afternoon. "I want to get my career going. I can’t think of another team I’d rather start it with."
boo cubs, hooray beer
easy to say before numbers are discussed
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 5, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but he'll be signed.
Cardinals won’t let their first rounder go unsigned.
boo cubs, hooray beer
That's different from what he said to Ravech earlier
“How do you feel about being drafted by the Cardinals?”
“Well, I’m just glad to be drafted. I’ve watched Albert Pujols and TLR coached in Oakland, so I have great respect for the organization.”
That’s very loosely paraphrased, but it seemed to me like he didn’t care too much who drafted him. Maybe now that he’s had a chance to let it set in, he realized this is a good place for him.
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watched him in HS
Had the opportunity to coach against him in HS. He was the ace pitcher for an undefeated high school team and state champion in Indiana. I think he was a something like a 10th round pick as a senior by the Mariners. He could bring it back then.
no need to apologize man....
and thanks for the good info on him in high school…....I personally have a real good feeling about this kid…. time will tell huh?
Just saw that Will Leitch of Deadspin.com is stepping down as editor
Taking a job at New York Magazine. I’m sorta sad.
Been reading some posts about this guy over at the cards talk forums
and i’m hating the pick less. Sounds like MLB report was understating his velocity. According to others, he sits around 92 and can bump it up to 95 when necessary.
boo cubs, hooray beer
He can pitch
Lance was throwing between 92 – 95 in the state championship game against us. He has pitched in big games his whole life: Little League World Series, State title game, and the junior olympic team as a college freshman.
About the "bad body"
I think that’s a bullshit way of looking at a ballplayer. Not everyone is going to be Rolen…and if the guy can hit and get on base, that’s great – more time to work on fielding in the minors. BTW, this whole draft is a crapshoot.
Andy Benes is the most successful pitcher ever drafted at #1 or something like that?
I like the pick.
I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck
still some unique talent on the board
cutter dykstra; lenny’s son
melville, of course
isaac galloway - extremely high ceiling HS outfielder who should go in the 2nd rd
brandon cox - college SS who slumped, was a 1st rd pick up to this spring
sonny gray - smallish hs pitcher
harold martinez - hs corner if who slumped; ethan martin like guy
kyle lobstein—hs lefthander
zeke spruill
petey paramore; hs catcher
destin hoo
frankly i think we should take maverick lasker based on namesake
some nutty first names of players in the draft
Cutter , Sonny, Zeke, Destin, Maverick
boo cubs, hooray beer
don't forget Shooter and Tanner
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 5, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't Dykstra go in the first round?
Or are there two Dykstra’s?
Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)
Lynn
Fastball has “some sink.”
Curveball is “average.”
Change “grades out as average.”
Why was he the 39th player drafted, and by the Cardinals? Don’t we usually hit the scrap heap for MLB veterans?
This is frustrating.
as I mentioned above.....
Lynn pitched for the U.S. National Team last summer ….striking out 26 in 25 innings…and compiling a 2-1 -1.80 mark in four starts
He’s got great Up-side ..in my opinion.
I'm assuming they know plenty that I don't
It’s way to early to criticize the Card’s picks based on what a few analysts say about the pick.
To early?
I mean it only takes years to see baseball players develop and advance through the system. I’d say 10 minutes and a scouting report qualifies as enough time to pass judgement.
Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)
More than one scouting report
Cites an average repertoire, no out pitch, and needing to keep his weight down. However, there are discrepencies in his velocity that would make a bit of a difference. And his mentality is oft-praised as the bulldog-type competitor.
Still, an average repertoire, no out pitch, and a “slight sink” on his fastball would be right up LaDunc’s alley. That is, if they are even around after the years he spends in the system.
by bgh on Jun 5, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And, for the record,
I hope that all of you can shove the above comment down my throat with crow and that I’m completely and utterly wrong.
by bgh on Jun 5, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Wallace
he’s not more athletic. He’s probably less athletic. He’s not a 3B and a lot of teams aren’t even sure he’s a 3B. He’s 6’1” and 245. He can hit but, unfortunately, there’s no DH in the NL. This is a real missed opportunity for the Cards. Most are probably aware that we already have a 1B and almost nobody thinks Wallace can play LF. I guess we’ll find out! Hope the Cards can make up for this disappointing selection w/ some better ones later on.
He's out in LF now though
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Damn. Duncan should get a wheel chair maybe that would help his defense.
"Why does he keep saying that?"
I wouldn't sell Wallace's athleticism short
Scouts consistently say he has good feet. My son’s team played ASU three games this spring and they say that not only can the kid rake, but he runs very well. He had two triples in a three game series.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
I disagree
The guy can mash. If Chris Duncan can be thrown in LF, then this guy can play there. He’s been working on “the body.” He told Bernie and Randy that he is down to 9% BF.
I’m going to watch ASU in the CWS, thats’ for sure. I’ll formulate an opinion from there. Hopefully ASU isn’t knocked out too early to get some info.
Its probably safer to say
if Matt Stairs can play outfield, then….
Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)
If Jack Cust can play the outfield...
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Jack Cust has
895 career PA’s. If we just drafted Jack Cust redux, it was an even more grievous error than I presently believe it to be.
It was tongue in cheek and only regarding defense
The guy can mash. Worst case scenario we have to trade him to a team that can use him at first base. You think the Brewers are sweating that they don’t have a position for LaPorta?
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
He's not LaPorta
No one has even remotely suggested that he is LaPorta either.
And why do we look forward to trading away our first round pick - the 13th overall. We should look forward to him being an All-Star. Again, Wallace isn’t terrible but the Cards had an opportunity to select somebody w/ a higher upside than Wallace and they chose the safe pick - again. It’s disappointing. Hicks or Kelly would’ve been much better selections. They’d be less likely to make it to the show but the potential ceiling is much higher.
I'll bet a hypothetical internet dollar you'll be pleased with the pick in two years
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
disagree...
I don’t think they would draft this kid in this position unless they were pretty sure they wanted him to play 3rd. .....and his defense is not bad….it’s just not exceptional.. ...he’s in his early 20’s….and to me?..that means he CAN lose some weight and improve his defensive skills to match his already VERY good offensive abilities. I like the pick and am looking forward to getting him signed and playing.
No scout sees Wallace as a 3B -- none!
No one doubts that Wallace can hit but is there anyone who can answer why the Cards passed on Hicks, Lawrie or Friedrich for this guy? He’ll be a good hitter and he’ll move quickly through the system but he was an overdraft. If nothing else, w/ Hicks on the board, he should have been taken before Wallace—ditto for Friedrich. There’s, at least, a decent argument for passing on Lawrie as he’s liable to end up behind the plate.
No one saw LaPorta as a LF'er
If you can hit you can play.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
disagree ...
The Cards scouts must have seen him able to play 3rd….or WHY draft him?....for is bat alone?. I have to put a little more faith in the staff then that… He’s made 8 errors in 50 games at 3rd….has shown a decent arm and one scout said he had “nimble feet” for a guy his size.. Look it’s all a crap shoot at this point…..but I just happen to think the kid is going to be okay at the corner given a couple of years to keep working and learning
They passed on Casey Kelly as well
a guy w/ tremendous upside! Selecting Wallace was too safe - as Kozma was last year. He’ll hit and he’ll move through the system relatively quickly and few, IMO, will be disappointed in him - at least from an offensive standpoint. The problem is what we might have missed out on - a player such as Hicks or Kelly w/ a much higher upside. Disappointing. I could have stomached a “safe” pick if it had been a pitcher such as Friedrich. Wallace gives us another DH to stick in LF - hopefully, or to play 1B if we don’t resign Pujols in a couple of years. Disappointing.
All valid points....I grant you...
But Wallace was always projected as a top 20 talent….so I guess that might mean he’s considered a “safe” pick… and I just don’t see Hicks and Kelly having the offensive upside that Wallace does…. Hey? You’ve always shown to know your baseball HC….so I’m not saying you are wrong… I just think the pick was a good one…
Why all the hate for Lynn?
This guy has struck out 10.65 and 11.04 batters per 9 innings, and walked a little over 3 per 9 the last 2 years. He improved on everything but his hits and home run rates. Yeah, home run rates are pretty big, but I don’t know much about him, his league, or his compettion. All I know is, if this guy pounds the strike zone, strikes a ton of guys out, and no one knows how he does it, I like him.
SEC is one of the strongest, if not the strongest, conference in college baseball.
I don’t really follow college baseball (mostly because Auburn is just god-awful in baseball despite having one of the best parks in the country) but I know that the SEC got at least 8, maybe 9 teams into the NCAA tournament.
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adam kennedy
batting third?? are you freaking kidding/killing me!
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
Oh my Lord!
I’m not even mad. I’m laughing too hard to be mad.
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Do we have some Tim Donaghy Pete Rose action going on here?
Whhhhy?
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
What was AK’s reaction when he saw this lineup? I would think that TLR was mocking me. This is just too funny…
Maybe TLR knows he's gonna be DFA'd tomorrow
And wants to give him a swan song.
Maybe it was Aaron Miles “Hey Tone, I want Adam to hit third tonight”
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Actually, I take that back
TLR wants to bat Kennedy 3rd so that the pitcher has to face him in the first inning
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[Insert joke regarding the location of this conversation]
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Miles and Officer
Am I the only one who merges Aaron Miles with Officer Farva when talking to Tony?
“Hey Tone, who wants cream?”
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by themanthemyth on Jun 5, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
wallace was the best player left on the board
thats all you need to know…best player on the board…i will never begrudge the team for taking the best player on the board
so if i gather correctly
he was the best player on the board, or the players on the board he was the best, there we no players better than him on the board.
That's a subjective claim
Ryan Leaf was probably the “best player on the board” in 1998 too
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i'm a colts fan
ryan leaf was not the best player on the board…craziest maybe, but not best…as wallace was at 13, best on the board…
Just one thing ?
Who was the best player on the board when Albert kept getting passed over and over and over the year he was drafted?...........yeah….so lets just hope they made some good choices early…..and CONTINUE to make good choices in those later rounds…...
Exactly
If we had taken Albert Pujols with the 13th pick in the draft he was in, people would have been jumping off bridges. I know that’s a very rare case, but it’s such a crapshoot right now.
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The playoffs are a crapshoot as well
Does that mean you don’t want to have the best team possible going into them?
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Different kind of crapshoot
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I didn't say it to be EXACTLY analgous, it's the point of the situation
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Yeah
Well, I’m just not gonna get too down on the picks. They could turn out to be great. They could turn out to suck. It’s the nature of the beast I guess.
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All right, it's our round 2 pick
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did you see the video
approach at 3rd looked pretty bad. Like I said before, I’ll pass judgement after I see him in the CWS.
At least he can run...
and throw. Wallace basically has to be Jim Thome to hold down a roster spot… and it isn’t easy being Jim Thome.
That might be...
A good comp for Wallace’s ceiling. (absolute ceiling of course)
every scouting report i have read says he's got a weird throwing motion
but that it’s effectively average from 3rd base…listen he won’t ever be a gold glover…but he may just be a silver slugger
Egad
Did he have an arm injury or something? It looks like he can’t get that right arm above his shoulder
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Shane Peterson
Long Beach State OF
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Oops
Cal-St. Long Beach
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Ok...
Since Wallace can’t play the corner outfield or 3rd, let’s speculate which American League ace he’ll get traded for in 2010.
I’ll say Scott Kasmir.
i think we just got skipschumaker's clone with shane peterson
he apparently crushes in bp, but no dice in games
2nd in average, not slugging
Not in top 10 in either homers or doubles, though.
by bgh on Jun 5, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
BA has this guy...
With plus power. They said he can hit it out of any park.
So I guess Melville won't be drafted?
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He should have kept his mouth shut...
about requiring 5-15 money.
eh...
he probably wanted to move to Chapel Hill and chase co-eds all along. I’d take that over Batavia for a year or two myself.
That's true
Chapel Hill is where the money’s at, too
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Melville will either look smart or foolish...
all depends on how well he performs at UNC. I think he likely made a smart move, and will become more polished at the NCAA level and be a top 5 pick whenever he decides to come out again.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Game theory on this sign/not sign out of high school
If you look at it from the endgame perspective that you either have major league talent or you don’t. If you do have the talent and you go to college, well you get drafted 3 years later anyway and you make the majors. If you have the talent and sign, well you make it to the majors maybe a year earlier if you are a total stud.
If you DON’T have the talent and go to college, well you end up getting your college education while getting the college experience (you couldn’t pay me enough money to make me miss out on all the fun). If you don’t have the talent and sign, well you waste 3-6 years of your life riding buses in nowhere cities in the low minors most likely with at least half the team in rookie ball unable to speak English.
Now that assumes the coaching is the same (personally I think you’re just as likely to get a terrible/great coach in college vs. pros), but to me unless you’re getting truly life changing money that you simply can’t pass up, it’s not even a question whether to sign or not…
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Um...injuries.
One never knows what might happen in college maybe you blow out your arm and never see a second in pro ball, not to mention never getting a dime.
The future is now when you’re drafted out of high school. It’s a pretty complicated decision.
And if you blow your arm out you think you're going to make it????
The injury factor plays right into going to college.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
Anyone else hoping
the Cards draft Chris Carpenter from Kent State? Is he related to any of the other Chris Carpenter’s that pitched for the Cardinals?
not to worry
below are typical starting line-ups for cubs and cards with the player’s draft status listed (udfa=undrafted free agent) all from the cube. cubs have one 1st round, while we often two, though counting ankiel may not be cricket. in any case, i give this one to the “draft is a crapshoot” crowd.
Cubs
soriano udfa
theriot 3
lee 1
ramierz udfa
fukudome udfa
soto 11
edmonds 7
derosa 7
Cards
schumaker 5
duncan 1
puhols 13
ludwick 2
ankiel 1
glaus 2
miles 19
izturis unfa
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