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Young Americans

Ahhhh, draft day is here at last! I'm so happy, I don't precisely know what to do with myself.

By the by, before I forget, thanks to whomever it was who suggested Young Americans for the draft thread. I am forever in you debt.

Thanks also to everyone who took the time to send me their picks yesterday. We ended up with, (including myself) 44 total ballots. Without a whole bunch of extra talking, here are the results:

Player Should Will
Christian Friedrich- LHP 7 28
Brett Lawrie-??? 24 2
Shooter Hunt-RHP 3 6
Tim Melville- RHP 4 2
Ryan Perry-RHP 1 4
Casey Kelly-SS 2 1
Jake Odorizzi-RHP 1 0
Aaron Hicks-RHP/OF
1
1
Eric Hosmer
1

0

 

First thing to really note: that's an amazingly small number of players for that many votes. I'm really shocked there aren't more names on that list. You would think that, within as large a grouping as this, there would be more variance among everybody's opinions. Very impressive. We're apparently a pretty grounded group as a whole.

For the record, I'm the guy who took Odorizzi, but I think they'll take Friedrich if he's there. (In my mock draft, he's already gone.) He's not my choice, obviously, but he won't be a bad pick, if that is in fact the direction the Cards go.

I emailed erik over at Future Redbirds a couple of days ago to get his choices, and he actually sent me back pretty much an entire mock draft. (I actually forgot to specify I was only looking for the first round pick, so it was entirely my fault.) Here's erik's picks:

"Should" picks: 13- Brett Lawrie, 39- Destin Hood, 59-Tyler Ladensdorf, 91- Cutter Dykstra, 123-DJ Mitchell or David Duncan

"Will" picks: 13-Aaron Hicks, 39- Wade Miley, 59- Tim Murphy, 91- Scott Bittle, 123- Mitchell or Duncan

Thanks to erik for doing all that extra work. I found myself inspired by his effort to try my own hand at a little mock up.

"Should": 13- Jake Odorizzi RHP/SS, 39-Wade Miley LHP, 59-Ryan Flaherty SS/2B, 91- Harold Martinez SS/3B, 123- Justin Parker SS, 155- Tanner Scheppers RHP

"Will": 13- Jemile Weeks, 39- Zach Putnam RHP, 59-James Darnell 3B, 91-Zach Cone OF, 123-Danny Espinosa SS

I have no idea who they might take in the fifth round; projecting that far out is really tough.

I don't necessarily know how far Scheppers will fall; he was seen as a mid first round pick before he was diagnosed with a stress fracture in his shoulder. I don't think I would take him real high; that's a scary injury. A fifth round pick, though? I would be willing to risk that on a guy with the kind of talent Scheppers has.

One caveat: there have been a couple of mock drafts I've seen where Conor Gillaspie, the third baseman out of Wichita State, has fallen as far as 39. If that happens, the Cards need to take him as quickly as possible, before some other team realises they passed him over and request a do over.

A while back, I did a mock draft over at my other gig. Here's my final mock up, going into the draft.

1. Tampa Bay- Tim Beckham, SS- Athletic MI fits the profile of Rays' picks.

2. Pittsburgh- Pedro Alvarez, 3B/1B- Pitt takes top player in draft, makes big splash

3. Kansas City- Gordon Beckham, SS- KC moves to establish left side of IF for years to come

4. Baltimore- Brian Matusz, LHP- O's see a little bit of Bedard in Matusz, take top pitcher in draft

5. San Francisco- Buster Posey, C- Big bonus demands force Posey down from rumoured top slot; SF goes over slot for intriguing talent

6. Florida- Yonder Alonso, 1B- Marlins take local, polished, affordable talent

7. Cincinnati- Aaron Crow, RHP- New Jocketty regime drafts just like old Jocketty regime

8. Chicago (AL)- Ethan Martin, RHP/3B- White Sox gamble on high upside, two way talent

9. Washington- Kyle Skipworth, C- Nationals, in long term building mode, take far off, high ceiling talent

10. Houston- Justin Smoak, 1B- 'Stros take safe pick of impact bat, worry about position later

11. Texas- Shooter Hunt, RHP- Rangers love arms, and they tried to draft him once before

12. Oakland- Christian Friedrich, LHP- Polished, college pitcher? A's are all over it

13. St. Louis- Jemile Weeks, 2B- With Friedrich off board, Cards take advanced college player at position of need

14. Minnesota- Brett Wallace, 3B- Twins take advanced hitter, hope to fill long term 3B hole

15. Los Angeles (NL)- Aaron Hicks, RHP/OF- Dodgers love high upside, HS arms, and take local two way product

That's all I got.

I'll stick the game thread up above this one a little closer to game time.

Happy draft day!

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great baseball day today!

game 1 at 1pm Eastern.
draft at 2pm Eastern.
second game of the doubleheader at 7pm Eastern.

Can’t wait.

by jroman on Jun 5, 2008 10:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brett Lawrie

I really hope Lawrie is our guy if he’s there at 13. Maybe it’s just Ryan Braun’s recent surge, but a talented 3rd baseman with power seems like a no brainer for a need.

I’d be happy with starting pitching too, you can never have too much pitching. I just don’t want us to stretch out and get someone who may fall to the second round, just because he’s a pitcher, and pass up on a guy like Lawrie.

I''m a Jenius!

by gibbons on Jun 5, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I really

like Lawrie too. Erik’s stumping over at FR must have worked; he was an awfully popular choice. Hell of a bat. In fact, his bat may almost be too good. Whatever team drafts him may be tempted to move him to a less demanding defensive position just to get his bat to the majors as quickly as possible.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which raises an interesting question

If the Cards take Lawrie, is he our future 3rd basemen or 2nd basemen?

I''m a Jenius!

by gibbons on Jun 5, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3b

you’d have to think right?...from what i’ve heard he’s a great athelete w/ a good arm…an arm that might be a little underutilized at the keystone…but his bat would certainly project to be all star quality there (also he may outgrow the MI—-heard alot of morneau comps)

grow back the beard adam...it couldn't hurt

by intimidator45 on Jun 5, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would also follow my Ryan Braun comparison

Although I’m not sure he’d make it out of the infield for the redbirds with our current OF log jam.

I''m a Jenius!

by gibbons on Jun 5, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, I'll jump in

I don’t usually pay that much attention to draft predictions, but, in order the top three possibilities for pick #13:

Christian Friedrich
Brett Wallace
Ryan Perry

That’s, of course, counting on Crow and Beckham are gone by then.

by ArkansasTravs on Jun 5, 2008 10:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

something wrong there

I didn’t mean to create a quote box. My list was: Christian Friedrich, Brett Wallace, Ryan Perry.

by ArkansasTravs on Jun 5, 2008 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems early for Perry.....

Unless he can be turned into a starter?

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 5, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weeks would be nice-

I’m tired of “rent-a-guy who used to be good elsewhere.” However, I make no pretense of knowing anything about the draftees.

by vinniefromjersey on Jun 5, 2008 11:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Lawrie is a tremendous talent, so I wouldn’t be upset if we draft him, but we have Allen Craig and David Freese on the farm. Weeks could fill the black hole that is 2B…

"Cross a lawyer with the Godfather, make you an offer you can't understand" - Don Henley

by TurdFerguson on Jun 5, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would love b law

@ pick 13 also but with his recent wood bat performance it seems likely for someone to pop him first! RB…if Friedrich, Crow, etc. are gone by our pick i could perhaps see us taking Weekes but that seems more like drafting for need than taking the best available talent…don’t get me wrong i really like weekes—speedy MI w/ surprising pop i just feel like talent-wise he belongs in the 20-25 range…but that being said i wouldn’t be all that upset if he was the pick…although personally i’d opt for hicks (tantalizing but scary as a position player b/c of hitting inconsistencies) If i have to narrow down i’d say the cards would take friedrich, hicks, lawrie, and wallace in that order

grow back the beard adam...it couldn't hurt

by intimidator45 on Jun 5, 2008 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sidetrack

With Pujols not playing in either of today’s two-fer, how many different players do you think TLR will use in his starting lineups?

Parisi: Over/under 5 IP?

by bgh on Jun 5, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eighteen?!?!

No Pujols and no Ankiel, but we may see an outfield of Looper, Waino, and Lhose.
BTW, anybody know if the first game will be on DTV EI?

by divingcardinal on Jun 5, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Project Prospect

has a good article about possible draft sleepers. Some of those might be interesting to think about around the 5th round.

I don’t know who I would love for the Cards to pick, but I have to think if Friedrich is there, he will be taken.

by JBagKY on Jun 5, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brett Wallace

why is no one talking about him? Did i miss an injury or slump or something? Polished 3B college hitter could move quickly to the majors. Most places i’ve seen have him ahead of Lawrie.

by gossard56 on Jun 5, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wallace

is a tremendous hitter, possibly the best bet to hit in the whole draft. There are significant concerns about his athleticism, though, with many teams seeing him as strictly a 1B type down the road. That’s primarily the reason I don’t like him. He does have an awfully good bat, though.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd really like to see us take Wallace

but that’s probably just a byproduct of me being an ASU student also. In most of the mock drafts I’ve seen him go 11 or 12.

by Phizzle on Jun 5, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love the flyer on Martinez as a late pick

Like to see that happen prior to the 4th round to avoid Kyle Russell part duex

by azruavatar on Jun 5, 2008 11:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly.

Still an awful lot of talent there, and if you just can’t get a deal done in the third, you get next year’s pick. Seems like a win win to me.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he went from a clear firstrounder to possibly not even the second round

You’d think he’s still gonna want a nice signing bonus or head back for school. But it’s worth a shot. Plenty of young players have had down years and bounce back.

by azruavatar on Jun 5, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wallace is great...

but it seems likely everyone loves the fast riser and there might be no one out there with more helium than lawrie after he went crazy w/ the wood bats against pro competition recently. Also AZ/RB if Martinez is there in the third, i’m 100 percent w/ you on trying to buy him away from miami…his situation sounds alot like michael burgess last year and he’s done nothing but hit since falling in last years draft

grow back the beard adam...it couldn't hurt

by intimidator45 on Jun 5, 2008 11:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'd also...

love to see trey haley in our pockets somewhere in the rd2-3 range

grow back the beard adam...it couldn't hurt

by intimidator45 on Jun 5, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Haley’s great. I just couldn’t quite figure out where to fit him in.

Probably be a reach at 39. Hmm, I really, really like Flaherty though. He’d be a reach at 39, too, but definitely wouldn’t be there at 91.

Maybe Haley instead of Miley? Maybe not. That’s a tough one.

Btw, I really, really love the draft. It’s just so much fun.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I was a kid I thought

Haley Miley was really hot in all those Disney movies.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Jun 5, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the draft too

and I may be mistaken but, isn’t this the first year the MLB draft has been on ESPN? Perhaps I’ve just been preoccupied on draft day in the past.

I''m a Jenius!

by gibbons on Jun 5, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Junior Spivey

Sort of OT I guess but everytime I hear about the hole at second base I remember how happy I was when the cards signed spivey. I always liked him before he got here, a great athlete. Where is he now?

I''m a Jenius!

by gibbons on Jun 5, 2008 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Booo MLB Extra Innings

They did not add the 1st game (last night makeup) to today’s lineup.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 5, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they must know the track record for the series

Long rain delays and no Pujols in the lineup.

I''m a Jenius!

by gibbons on Jun 5, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game 1 Lineups per Gameday

STL

Ryan 3B
Barton LF
Mather CF
Ludwick RF
Glaus 1B
Molina C
Miles 2B
Wellemeyer P
Izturis SS

WAS

Guzman SS
Dukes RF
Milledge CF
Boone 1B
Casto 3B
Flores C
Pena LF
Harris 2B
Lannan P

These are the exact same as last night. Don’t be surprised if Gameday just put the same ones up, and the real lineups are something different.

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 5, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as much as i think

are lineup stinks, I look at Washington’s and feel a lot better.

by enoscountry on Jun 5, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Three words. Aaron. Boone. Cleanup.

by Phizzle on Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game thread's up, everybody.

Though why you would be interested in real baseball, instead of pie in the sky, five years away, imaginary baseball is beyond me.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone explain to me

what this Negro Draft is all about? And that looks really weird to type.

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Jun 5, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is exciting for me

I played baseball and soccer all through my childhood with Friedrich. We were pretty chummy. I should send him a good luck message.

He was always a Cubs fan, for those that care, haha. I’d love to see him get a shot in Cardinal red.

by mojowo11 on Jun 5, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BP's Top 50 Talents or Mock Draft...

anyone take a look at these? Agree/Disagree with their take on any of the top guys or who teams will be taking? They have the Cards taking Friedrich w/ the 13th, as does Keith Law.

I haven’t been big on the draft in the past, but my interest has been piqued in recent years. Just looking for some insight from someone with a little knowledge.

by dj tanner on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1st pick is...

Tim Beckham. Good call baron.

by stlfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd pick is...

Alvarez, no surprise there.

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 5, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft

Not sure who I’m hoping for. Wouldn’t mind getting an arm like Friedrich or maybe Hunt, but a bat like Lawrie or Wallace would be nice too. I also like Weeks, but you can’t draft him that early.

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

slot values

Does anyone know where a list of recommended slot values can be found? I’m curious…

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum

by IrishDomer08 on Jun 5, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Surprised

by KC going with Hosmer a little. I thought they would have gone with a college kid, someone who was going to move in a hurry.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crow

may fall to us. I don’t like his arm action, but he’s still an awfully good pitcher.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

never mind

Nats took him.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I live in Baltimore

and I gotta have ONE team in this region that I can go to see live and, you know, actually enjoy watching. So I’m pulling for ‘em. Sorta.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Young Americans is one of my favorites

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by jealousblues on Jun 5, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Shocker at 10. Houston goes with Castro? Didn’t see that one coming. At. All.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Three C's in the first round...

decent crop this year, Baron?

by dj tanner on Jun 5, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Strong on catchers at the top, although Castro wasn’t looking like any better than a 20-25 pick. Now that those three are gone, though, bupkes.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smoak

So do we take Smoak? If he makes it to us?

by winzy11 on Jun 5, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No.

Even if you’re looking for just strictly a bat, there are better picks still available. Wallace, for instance. (though I don’t want him either)

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gone

He made sense there for the Rangers, don’t you think?

by dj tanner on Jun 5, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He does,

but I’m still a little surprised. I thought the Rangers would take a pitcher.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Most had Smoak as top 5. I’d think he’d be the best bat available.

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

He may have been. I’m a little lukewarm on Smoak. The power’s very real, though. You could be right. Obviously, he’s a good hitter. I think there are a couple of others whose overall hitting skills I would rate a bit higher, though.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant...

not purely from a talent standpoint. Thanks for taking it completely literally though.

by dj tanner on Jun 5, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pardon?

I’m missing something, I fear.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry...

meant to hit “Reply” to Soonerfan for taking me to task for making what he felt was an “obvious” comment.

by dj tanner on Jun 5, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

I was confused.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually.....

My comment was directed at rb, so try again?

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright man,

...just sitting at my apartment enjoying the draft. Not trying to have a flame war here. Your comment to rb posted on my board b/f his own did. I’m not trying to call you out.

by dj tanner on Jun 5, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy Shit.

A’s take Weeks at #12. Again, I say

Holy Shit.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's the A's. They must know something no one else does....

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum

by IrishDomer08 on Jun 5, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.....

Seems early for a pick like that.

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Friedrich

coming up here for the birds? Or Lawrie?

by dj tanner on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wallace.....

Though I’m not sure that’d be my pick.

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 5, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright.

Here we go.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No Perry

no perry no perry no perry no perry

Stop!

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Goddamnit.

I really, really don’t like Wallace. Sigh.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We have

a first baseman, and we don’t use the DH. I just don’t think Wallace is staying at third.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the 'draft the best player available' strategy?

This would seem to follow it.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum

by IrishDomer08 on Jun 5, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't

necessarily think he was the best player. He’s the best hitter, but there are other elements of the game that I just don’t think he’s going to do all that well in.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course,

now I hope he proves me wrong. But still.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok. Well, the pick is made. Let's hope it turns out well.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum

by IrishDomer08 on Jun 5, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes...that body,

Not that I should talk, but can he stay at the corner?

by dj tanner on Jun 5, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just curious. Why. Don't know too much about him.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum

by IrishDomer08 on Jun 5, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

????

Was that pick just out of left field or what?

by holden on Jun 5, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Look at those hips.

He should be able to have sixteen, seventeen children.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think.....

That this truly was, a Moneyball pick.

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 5, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wallace better move pretty quick through the system

he’s already almost 22!!!!

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Jun 5, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Compared to Billy Butler over at BP

...Butler’s top comparables are 1) Marc Newfield, 2) Greg Luzinski and 3) Gary Carter

by dj tanner on Jun 5, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Based on that video. . .

Dude appears to hop a lot

by holden on Jun 5, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Based on that video...

he doesn’t look like he’s really 6’2’‘

but he is really hunched over at the plate

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Jun 5, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota

takes Hicks at 14. My original mock draft was actually correct, and I talked myself out of it.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so is this a good pick or a bad pick?

dude doesn’t look like any 3rd baseman i’ve ever seen. Albert ain’t going any where, so was this just a case of taking the best player & hope for the best?

i ask, because i have no idea.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 5, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well,

that’s the crux of the debate. I don’t think he’s a third baseman. Fewgoodcards, over at future Redbirds, loves him. He’s a pretty safe bet to hit his way to the pros, but I have no idea where.

It’s a tough one to really say just what kind of pick it is. Personally, though, I’m not a fan.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe.....

He is insurance in case Albert either a) doesn’t resign, or b) has a bad injury?

Worst case, he knocks the cover off the ball, and we have trade bait in a few years. Or he moves to a corner OF spot. Or he makes it at 3B.

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 5, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks, i just got done reading the thread hoping no one had already asked that

the WWL is super high on his bat, of course i take that with a grain of salt.

so its good to hear Future Redbirds like his bat as well.

so the thinking is, stick him at 3rd, see if he fits. if not, move to 1st. and if Albert ever leaves, he steps right in. a la Howard did in Philly a couple season ago when they traded Thome. am i close?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 5, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers

take another HS player from Missouri and take Melville here?

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha. That made me laugh.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum

by IrishDomer08 on Jun 5, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that's true.

I don’t really like Duncan out there either, though.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RB,

What’s this guy’s ceiling as a hitter?

by MdRedbirdFreak on Jun 5, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh,

he’s a hell of a hitter.

He’s a little bit like Daric Barton, honestly, but with more power.

Probably about a .290/400/.500 guy. Tough to say, of course, but he will hit.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewers

take Lawrie. Great. Now we’re going to have to watch him bash our brains in 15 games a year.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They just

interviewed Wallace on ESPN. Seems like a really nice kid, talked about how glad he was to be with such a strong organisation. Grew up in the Bay Area, loves La Russa, etc.

Welcome to the Cardinals, kid. Glad to have you aboard.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The hell

are the Mariners thinking with Fields there? Bizarre.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is there no chance

Wallace is some sort of Kirby Puckett/Terry Pendleton? Looks can be deceiving if you got quick feet.

And are the super-regionals on TV?

by enoscountry on Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so many pitchers dropping

friedrich, melville, hunt, odorizzi, perry – every single pitcher (not counting hicks) we as a group identified for the cards’ pick at 13.

so, now that we’re all the way to 21 and they’re all still on the board, i guess the question is, will any be available at 39? i’d have to think any one of them would be a bargain at that point, and some would be an outright steal.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jun 5, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well, there goes perry

1 down, 4 to go – s’ok, the cards need starters more than relievers anyway

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Jun 5, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God,

I hope Odorizzi falls that far. Can’t imagine that he will, but I would weep with joy if he did.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 5, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i guess

thats two down, three to go?

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by jealousblues on Jun 5, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gotta say i kinda feel like i called the pick

i wondered why there was no talk about Wallace around here when he was the highest rated bat and 3B on the board.

by gossard56 on Jun 5, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did i just see

tino freaking martinez?

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by jealousblues on Jun 5, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You did. He's with the Yankees.

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by IrishDomer08 on Jun 5, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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