Game 61 Open Thread- 4th June, 2008
The Colonel John Lannan
6-1, 3.16 4-5, 3.52
This is a matchup of two hugely surprising pitchers. Wellemeyer, of course, we all know about. The Colonel has been the Cards' second best hurler this season, and is quickly becoming one of those pitchers you always hope to see on the mound when you check the day's pitching matchup.
Lannan, on the other hand, is a product of the Washington farm system, and has just flown through. He's young, talented, and a soft tossing lefty. Ordinarily, that would be enough to send me into a panic, but I'm really liking the Cards' all righty lineup lately. Let's hope they can continue their success tonight; this is the sort of team the Cards really need to clean up against. June's going to be awfully tough. Got to take the wins where we can get them.
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But our all-righty lineup tonight
doesn’t include Albert Pujols…
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 4, 2008 6:25 PM EDT 0 recs
dammit, the lineup feels naked
without him
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by ihavebadknees on
Jun 4, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
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But hey!
This mean Izturis will bat righty. That means something right?
right? hello? is this thing on?
by paposse on
Jun 4, 2008 6:37 PM EDT
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Abort (A) Retry (R) Fail (F)?
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 6:41 PM EDT
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Whoa
a DOS joke.
Don’t know if this well will be as deep as the NES one last night for rain-delay time killin’.
by liam on
Jun 4, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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The sad thing is I had to do a quick Google search
to make sure I was doing it right
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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does that mean
that for tonight it is …Kernal Wellemeyer?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 4, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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At least nobody gets pitched around.........
Success against a finesse lefty is take him to right field, don’t over swing. That means you Mather….........and Troy….....
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by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 4, 2008 6:39 PM EDT 0 recs
pujols
does anyone know if something’s actually wrong with him? or is he just taking a couple days off to rest? consecutive days of for Pu can’t be normal…
by soccerfreak on Jun 4, 2008 6:40 PM EDT 0 recs
Additionally, is he availible to pinch hit?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Jun 4, 2008 6:41 PM EDT
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maybe he could come in as a defensive replacement
in the 6th inning, tlr loves to do that
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by ihavebadknees on
Jun 4, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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that should be
defensive AND offensive replacement
by soccerfreak on
Jun 4, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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Whole team may get the night off
DC under severe weather now
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=LWX&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
by gocards62 on
Jun 4, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
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Looks like a pop-up thunderstorm
I wish that storm line had gone about 500 miles south…for one thing I love thunderstorms (no tornadoes though) and for another it’s already starting to look like another drought-stricken summer…
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
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i like a good storm too, if im at home
in florida we get a fair amount
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by ihavebadknees on
Jun 4, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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It was 96 degrees here today
And I looked at the 10-day forecast…more of the same for the next week and a half. Technically, it’s not even summer yet!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
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Glaus has played a whole one inning of 1B in his career (per STLtoday.com)
Shit, Mather had more than that last night
AK must really feel slapped in the dick by being the only MIF not in the lineup tonight. He’s definitely the weak link (and the only guy who hits exclusively lefty)
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 4, 2008 6:44 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah maybe I should have put the word hits in quotations
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
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Lineups per Yahoo!
STL
Ryan 3B
Barton LF
Mather CF
Ludwick RF
Glaus 1B
Molina C
Miles 2B
Wellemeyer P
Izturis SS
WAS
Guzman SS
Dukes RF
Milledge CF
Boone 1B
Casto 3B
Flores C
Pena LF
Harris 2B
Lannan P
I was at the Willie Harris 6-hit game in Atlanta last year. I don’t know if he’s ever played MIF or if he’s trying it out or whatever. I also don’t know why Aaron Boone is over at 1st base. Actually, both teams have 3B playing 1B tonight…interesting…
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 4, 2008 6:50 PM EDT 0 recs
Willis Harris
Willie came up as a 2B / CF with the White Sox way back when, if my mind serves me correctly…
...which his baseball reference page confirms
by djsmokyc on
Jun 4, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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Yeah I took a look at that
Honestly, the first time I’d ever even heard of him was in that game last year.
Also looks like Boone has played most of his games at 1B for them.
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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College...
I watched a bunch of white sox games growing up in Chicago, and going to school in Champaign. No FSN MW in either place (at the time).
by djsmokyc on
Jun 4, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Pujols
Rotoworld sidebar says his calf is acting up. Tony hopes 2 days rest and he’ll be ready to go Friday. sounds like only playing time he could get is pinch hitting—no defense
by soccerfreak on Jun 4, 2008 7:02 PM EDT 0 recs
We shouldn't (emphasize SHOULDN'T) need Pujols to beat the Nats
However, our #1 and #3 (Ankiel) guys in OPS+ are out tonight. Actually, we’ve only guy two guys in the lineup with an OPS+ over 100 (Ludwick and Glaus)
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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Leach
Matt Leach is awesome BTW: http://yourenotagolfer.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/06/wednesday_evening_tidbits_pujo.html
Here is his post from today, looks like Ank won’t even be on the bench tonight.
Greetings from Nationals Park, where evidently at least one more line of storms is on the way. If you’re settling in to watch the game, be prepared for a long night.
- Pujols is out at least tonight with discomfort in his left calf. TLR says best case scenario is that he’ll be back Friday in Houston, while Pujols hopes to play tomorrow. Dicey weather here mens Friday under the roof is a much better bet, it would seem.
- Ankiel is also out, probably for a couple of days, because he’s come down with an infection in his scraped right knee. He was sent back to the hotel after he was checked out and treated.
- STL lineup: Ryan 3B, Barton LF, Mather CF, Ludwick RF, Glaus 1B, Molina C, Miles 2B, Wellemeyer P, Izturis SS. Yes, that is correct—he flipped Mather and Ludwick in the outfield today.
by StLHugo on Jun 4, 2008 7:08 PM EDT 0 recs
I like Leach
He hasn’t been bloging as much as he did last year though.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 4, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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even if you had an infection (which we seemed to have a lot of last year)
how does it prohibit you from playing?
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by jealousblues on
Jun 4, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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The problem is...
getting more dirt/bacteria/other yuckies into the original injury. Ank’s apparently got a pretty well-scraped knee; cover it with anitbiotics, tape a gauze pad on it, and send him to the hotel to rest. His infection (according to the P-D) is underneath the “scab”.
What they’re trying to avoid is a staph infection, which could require IV antibiotics and a trip to the DL.
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on
Jun 4, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Gauze and a wound
As a physical therapy student, I want to let you know that gauze shouldn’t be used on a wound, unless it is the only option. There are much better options for dressings out there.
If the infection is underneath the wound covering, it should have been debrided. Cards medical staff always has me wondering, exactly what are they doing sometimes.
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by scoot on
Jun 4, 2008 8:56 PM EDT
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maggot time!
will they eat the dirt as well as the dead skin?
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by mattnj on
Jun 4, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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maggot therapy
It’s a very beneficial treatment for a patient with a large wound. They eat the necrotic tissue only and leave behind the viable tissue. Dirt should be long gone, should have been cleaned out in the dugout immediately after the injury.
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by scoot on
Jun 4, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
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usually only with burn victims, right?
...So basically, the wound wasn’t cleaned properly after he dove? Is that the consensus here? The cards medical staff is under a microscope…and I had my own reasons for thinking they might suck because of some of the names associated with them….
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by mattnj on
Jun 4, 2008 9:27 PM EDT
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I'm not interested in blasting anyone...
I’ll leave it at that…those who know, know….
mattnj
by mattnj on
Jun 4, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
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No, not necessarily
Maggots are used on wounds that are large and have a lot of necrotic (dead) tissue; large pressure ulcers make good candidates for maggot therapy. They aren’t used that much because they are a bit expensive and most people don’t like the thought of maggots crawling around inside their wounds.
I didn’t mean to imply that the medical staff didnt do their job. I recall them working pretty hard on his hand and leg immediately after the play. I’m not big on saying its someone else’s responsibility to make sure that something like that is cleaned. Ankiel is an adult, I’d say it is his responsibility to make sure the thing was kept clean.
Infection could have come from many things, not just from the wound not being kept clean. It is important to remember that we all have a large bacterial presence on our bodies at all times. Sometimes things like that are just not so easy to prevent. I’d just expect it to be treated a little better now that it has become a problem.
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by scoot on
Jun 4, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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Infections can be nasty...
recall the case of Calvin Coolidge, Jr.
by guayzimi on
Jun 4, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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ETA on a first pitch?
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 4, 2008 7:13 PM EDT 0 recs
8:00 pm EST at the earliest
is what the Nats broadcasters said.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jun 4, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Is there any chance of this game being played tonight?
It looks like DC is covered in red on the radar
by Cardsfan_inCHI on Jun 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT 0 recs
damn commies
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by ihavebadknees on
Jun 4, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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weather.com says it's gonna rain until 3am
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USDC0001?from=36hr_bottomnav_undeclared
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by rocKStark5 on
Jun 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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The Colonel
Remind me again how Wellemeyer got the nickname “The Colonel”? And btw, KTRS is playing some funky jazz right now. Still better than FSN’s rain-delay coverage last night. :)
by blehmann on Jun 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT 0 recs
FSN's rain coverage tonight...
is the same freakin’ shows from last night’s rain delay… Sheesh!
Heck, lemme into the booth and I’ll tell Cardinals stories from back in the day; I’ve been watchin’ the Birds since Shannon played (grin)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on
Jun 4, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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there are few things better
than some funky jazz
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 4, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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Or is it jazzy funk?
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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there are NO things better in life
than some jazzy funk
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 4, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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Rat Own, Rat Own....
cue up the P-Funk! YOW!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on
Jun 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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"How many y'all hip to Aqua Boogie? How many y'all really hip?....Shit!"
George Clinton, poet
by random on
Jun 4, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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I hope the game gets rained out...
without Albert in the lineup,
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Jun 4, 2008 7:34 PM EDT 0 recs
That storm line that's nearing Fredericksburg right now
is picking up some serious steam
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 4, 2008 7:38 PM EDT 0 recs
i want baseball!
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Jun 4, 2008 7:40 PM EDT 0 recs
I want baseball, but
only with Pujols in the lineup. Lacking that, I want rain.
by StanTheManFan on
Jun 4, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Normally I'd agree, but the Nats lineup is pitiful right now
by hannah_in_va on
Jun 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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and if APu is going to
get the amount of time of this year that Tony implied, might as well have a couple of them be against the gNAts
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 4, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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im not rational, those are good argument
but i want baseball!
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by ihavebadknees on
Jun 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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Radar looks like the heavy rain
will pass through D.C. about 8:20… 8:30. EDT…... too late to start a game?
Doubt they would play a D.H. tomorrow…... would have to use a east coast open date to make it up.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Jun 4, 2008 7:46 PM EDT 0 recs
That would be 7:30 here
Which isnt to late in my opinion.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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They won't make it up
unless we are still in the Wild Card hunt at the end of the season.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jun 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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well, if you're that optimistic
Why not the division lead? Think the Cubs have staying power?
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on
Jun 4, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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I do
Think 2004, but with us and them reversed. Of course, it would be nice to write a happier ending than they did that year…
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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too late?
damn pacific games kill me
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by ihavebadknees on
Jun 4, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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Betcha they play tonight
but fergoshsakes, don’t tell Pete Rose!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on
Jun 4, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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They might have a DH tomorrow
Should be just about clear all day. But I agree with Hardcore…unlikely they’d try to make it up unless it had a direct impact on a playoff race (probably Wild Card)
Actually, July 7 is a day they could do it. They’ll be coming back from Cincy about to open a home series with Arizona. We’ll be leaving Chicago for Philadelphia. I think we could swing a quick trip into DC for a day…but I don’t make those decisions.
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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Don't know if this will help baseball fix but
I’m moving to Thailand, and I have a bunch of Cardinal books, encyclopedias and the like. Free to a good home – or even an abusive one. First come first serve. I’ll box and mail them.
by akaitori on Jun 4, 2008 7:50 PM EDT 0 recs
Damn you, Hardcore
and your lightening-fast “dibs”
by effin fisk on
Jun 4, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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I'll access your blog from home. I'm at work now and can't get through the filters.
Hope you enjoy. Look at the amount of postage and give it to the charity of choice.
by akaitori on
Jun 4, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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Where in Thailand?
Oki, Thailand: you’re hitting all my old stomping grounds.
by random on
Jun 4, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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Storms look nasty
If you’re in it’s path…. I hope you got your butt parked in the middle of the house.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Jun 4, 2008 7:57 PM EDT 0 recs
It looks like if we can hold out for this last line to get through, there's a sizeable window to get at least 5 in
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 4, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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That depends how fast the grounds crew gets the field ready....But I think the game will start and attempt to go 5.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum
by IrishDomer08 on
Jun 4, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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The grounds crew were not real sharp
last night according to TLR and the umps. Hope they got it together now.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on
Jun 4, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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without pujols and a big card lead
i bet they are
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