Marky Mark
I saw "The Happening" directed by M. Night Shyamalan last night. It was a rather suspenseful and intense movie. The mysterious "cause" throughout the plot was a bit lame and the script had a few glaring hiccups ("Look everyone there's a house!", says Mark Wahlberg in a painfully poor segue.) but it was a nice 90 minute escape after a bad day. I've been thinking about Mark lately. No, not Mark Wahlberg (and yes, this is only a marginally better segue than the one in the movie) but Mark Mulder. With a recent spate of articles by both Joe Strauss and Derrick Goold, I've been reminiscing about this love/hate relationship I have with Mulder (used to love him. . . . not so much anymore).
I wish I could say I didn't like the Mulder trade when it happened, but I can't. I recall hearing that Tim Hudson had gone to the Braves and was quite disappointed that the Cardinals had let him slip by. I wasn't as well versed in baseball stats as I am now; I was much more of a casual but still informed fan. I knew who the "Big Three" were in Oakland and I knew that there were rumors that they were about to be split up. I wanted the Cardinals to acquire a top of the rotation pitcher and at the time I approved of the deal. There were obviously vocal critics and, in hindsight, I'd certainly love a do over. If you transport me back in time and erase my memory, I can't say that I wouldn't make that deal again though.
Regardless, Goold does a fine job of tracing the assets that Oakland received stemming from the Mulder trade and I'm not really here to relive that. Fastforward from the trade to 2006 offseason when Mulder was resigned by Walt Jocketty (January of 2007) for 2 years with a club option on the 3rd. $13 million dollars is nothing to sneeze at but his salary wasn't going to cripple the team by any means. A lot of people had wizened up to Mulder by then and it would appear rightfully so. But I'm not really here to relive that either.
It's 2008. Three years after the trade. 18 months after the extension. The Cardinals are contending for the wild card in the National League and the Brewers are hot on their heals. It's not 2005, 2006 or 2007. It's 2008. Just to repeat, in case the front office missed that, it's 2008.
The talk of Mark Mulder possibly pitching for the major league club in the very near future nauseates me a little bit. There's really only a few reasons why this would be justified:
- The club needs to recoup on it's investment.
- Mulder has proven himself in the minors and is ready to step into the rotation.
- There are no better options internally.
- They need to see what they have in Mulder.
Let's address these in order. The first one is probably the strongest and most discussed justification that I've heard. It's too bad that it's patently false. John Mozeliak has no reason to try and recoup on this investment. He has the perfect excuse (blame Jocketty) and there's no real return to be had unless reasons 2 or 3 are met. It's not as if the Cardinals get money back in their pocket if Mulder pitches. Mulder isn't a crowd draw at this stage in his career. The 13M has been spent -- there's no way to put it back in the club's coffers.
If the club was looking to "recoup" that would probably be best achieved if Mulder pushed the club over the hump to the playoffs. That requires him to be able to pitch at the major league level. A prerequisite to pitching in the majors is being able to pitch in the minors. On the 19th, he surrendered 6 ER in 3.2 innings allowing 10 hits. Add the random back stiffness that Mulder has had and he can neither retire minor leaguers nor stay healthy enough to attempt to retire minor leaguers. His outing on June the 14th was good (5IP, 5H, 0ER, 3K, 0BB) so at best you can make the argument that he's inconsistent. If the best Mark Mulder can offer the big league club is inconsistency, then he doesn't need to be pitching for them unless there are no better options internally.
Internal options exist though. In fact, there are quite a few. Mitchell Boggs seems to be the most logical counter to that justification. Boggs certainly hasn't been exceptional in St. Louis but he's gotten groundball outs and he hasn't been blown out of any games yet. He's got a good not great minor league track record. Or maybe you really want a lefty in the rotation. Jaime Garcia went 6.2 innings allowing 3 ER on 6 hits and no walks last night. O ya, he also struck out 10 batters while recording 8 groundouts against 2 flyouts. Is Mulder really a better option than Garcia right now? Because that's what I think the club should be worried about. Right now. 2008.
But maybe they aren't. Maybe they're also looking ahead to that 11 million [/gag] dollar option. We know there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that that isn't getting bought out for 1.5 million. Still, they could be evaluating Mulder for a Matt Clement type incentive based contract (because Clement has worked so well). Is it possible that the Cardinals could evaluate Mulder in the majors without (basically) committing a game to his hands in the form of a start? I mean, is it possible that there's a way he could pitch for just an inning or so at a time in low leverage situations? Or maybe hone his craft against a few lefties just to get his feet wet? We haven't had any left handed relievers hit the DL recently have we? And by the same token, can't the Cardinals look at young players like Garcia or Boggs as well to see what they offer in the future? Those players are "free" so it would be nice to know if they can be penciled in for 2009.
But again, it's 2008. The Cardinals are contending. They aren't running away with the wild card and there's plenty of time to mess it up with silly roster moves like putting unproductive players in the starting rotation. There's no viable and compelling reason for the Cardinals to give Mulder a start. He hasn't earned it. It shouldn't be given to him in some poor attempt at saving an ex-employee's reputation. He's had to totally revamp his mechanics. Sure he says he's feeling good when he's pitching but didn't he also "feel fine" when his shoulder was in threads? The Cardinals have better options for now and the future.
I'll never forget that 10-inning complete game he threw against the Astros with Roger Clemens opposing him. That was an awesome game in 2005. But enough is enough. End the charade. Don't try to grease the wheels for his probably disastrous return. Call us when you can retire AAA batters. It was nice knowing you Marky Mark.
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Murky Mark
and his troubles are best forgotten. I, too, was all for the trade when it happened. The question (raised by many here and elsewhere) will always be was he damaged goods when we got him, and isn’t that the domain of the people who get paid to obsess about these things (as opposed to those of us who do it for free)?
To get back to the point, I agree with you, azruavatar, that they need to focus on 2008 and can’t waste starts on Mulder and his murky arm slot.
On that note, does anyone know why WonderBrad is in the minors and Parisi is allowed to lose game after game? Isn’t Thompson a better option? A least he’s had some success.
Yesterday was a horrendous loss, exposing the black hole in our lineup (#’s 4,5,and6), with 2 of Detroit’s 3 runs coming on bases-loaded walks. The 4 and 5 holes are beginning to resemble last year’s ineptitude.
Anyone think it’s time to bat Albert #4 with Lud or Ank #3? That might help kick start either of them.
Sorry for the rambling nature of this, but yesterday was extremely frustrating.
by vinniefromjersey on Jun 27, 2008 7:41 AM EDT 0 recs
"Black Hole" defined:
The #5 hole in the Cardinals’ lineup is currently #5 in all of baseball in OPS. Hardly a great void. In fact, I’d say it is rather productive.
The #4 slot is about average as far as #4 hitters go. Is it Jimmy Edmonds at his peak? No. Absolutely not. A black hole that does not make. An .804 isn’t setting the world on fire. It’s slightly below average.
The production from the #6 hole has been lackluster to say the least, but still a bit better than the black holes that are Izturis and Kennedy (not that that is saying anything). The .711 OPS is in the bottom one-third of the league as a whole. Nonetheless, it is still better than our #7 and #9 hole production. I would designate them as the black holes of the lineup. I didn’t even put up their OPS numbers because they are so horrendous.
by bgh on
Jun 27, 2008 9:13 AM EDT
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Totally agree about WonderBrad...
even though Thompson is not pitching well in Memphis, he should be pitching instead of Parisi. I can’t imagine that Thompson would be worse.
by jdubya on
Jun 27, 2008 1:38 PM EDT
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Depends
As relievers…
Parisi: 16.1 IP / 4.41 ERA / 10 SO / 8 BB
WunderBrad: 7 IP / 7.71 ERA / 2 SO / 6 BB
Now, overall, including starts, he has been the better pitcher.
Parisi: 23 IP / 8.22 ERA / 13 SO / 15 BB
WunderBrad: 22.2 IP / 4.37 ERA / 14 SO / 10 BB
I will say that I don’t ever want either of them to pitch late in a tie ballgame.
by bgh on
Jun 27, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
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agree that i wouldn't want either but...
if the choice is Parisi or Thompson, i would take Thompson. Brad also has more mlb experience.
also, you gotta think that Parisi’s confidence is as low as it can get right now. as Yogi said, “90% of baseball is half mental”.
by jdubya on
Jun 27, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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+1
lineup change would help. have to break the strikeout chain that is LUDDY, RICK, AND CLAUS
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Jun 27, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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I've heard The Happening is terrible
but I still kinda want to check it out, because i always watch those M Night Shamaylan movies. In a related note, watching Mike Parisi pitch kinda makes me want to throw myself in front of a giant lawnmower.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Jun 27, 2008 8:47 AM EDT 0 recs
If people are expecting a masterpiece they are going to be disappointed
but it wasn’t nearly as bad as Lady in the Water and I thought it was better than The Village as well. There were 3-4 different times where I almost jumped out of my seat and several occasions where I couldn’t watch what was happening because of the sheer imagery shock. I think it’s gotten a bad rap because everyone is looking for Shyamalan to come up with another Unbreakable or The Sixth Sense but it was a solid movie.
by azruavatar on
Jun 27, 2008 9:02 AM EDT
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Unbreakable
I thought that was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen, so if he was coming up with another one of those…count me out.
The Sixth Sense wasn’t so bad the first time around.
by stlfan on
Jun 27, 2008 9:15 AM EDT
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those movies were radically different experiences for me
I could watch The Sixth Sense over and over again. Noting the nuances that are used to make it seem as if Willis is - well you know - was an incredible bit of filmwork. The emotional connection between the boy and his mother was particularly well done too especially when he discusses his grandmother with his mother at the end of the movie.
The twist in Unbreakable was very unexpected and caught me off guard but I thought it really made the movie. Plus the link back to the beginning with the Mr. Glassman line—genius. But that was a one time watch for me b/c it didn’t resonate much beyond the plot twist.
by azruavatar on
Jun 27, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
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Same thing for me but the exact opposite....
I could watch “Unbreakable” over and over again. I think the story had more structure having been built upon a sort of comic book story frame work. Overall I think it was the better written film of the two.
Once I saw the twist in the “Sixth Sense” I couldn’t really enjoy it.
I have said it a lot that I think that M. Night Shyamalan should stop writing his own work. He is an incredible director that has built a terrific brand name for himself. He could take other gifted writers works and really build on them.
by BigJawnMize on
Jun 27, 2008 10:09 AM EDT
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Review
Only for those who already have seen it, or never will (contains spoilers): I found this to be hilarious…
by Woodwork on
Jun 27, 2008 11:08 AM EDT
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Unbreakable was okay
but I liked Sixth Sense and Signs better. I’ve heard The Happening doesn’t really explain what is going on, and that everyone is left at the end of the movie with nothing more than they started out with.
by saladdays on
Jun 27, 2008 11:54 AM EDT
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The twist in Signs annoyed me to the point that I couldn't handle it
You’re aliens, and WATER is your poison? And you chose to invade the effing EARTH? And out of all the places, you land in Pennsylvania? How did this race manage to muster enough intelligence to build a spaceship?
On the other hand, I though Unbreakable was well done.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Jun 27, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
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I didn't consider that the twist as much as a few other things
The twist was that there were reasons why the girl left glasses of water everywhere and why the boy had asthma. Plus, these were “signs” that Gibson’s character saw as being from God, and were brought him back into the priesthood.
Obviously the aliens bit is important, but remember that they did invade other parts of the world as well.
by saladdays on
Jun 27, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
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+ 1
And the signs were for communication? How the hell did all of them get to earth in the first place then? Nuked the fridge ;-)
by Woodwork on
Jun 27, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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Aliens. Other planets. No water....... Dunno what water is.......
Heh.
Also, they were in many places. They were watching a TV news thing about the aliens in Brazil.
by sdrone on
Jun 27, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
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But water is one of the easiest chemicals to synthesize
Even if you lived in a world that didn’t have water, it’s pretty inconcievable that you wouldn’t know what it was, and be able to recognize it from a simple spectral analysis of the planet’s surface.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on
Jun 27, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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All movies fail then
Because there’s always something in them that isn’t real life.
by saladdays on
Jun 27, 2008 3:59 PM EDT
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Except the Pagemaster
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on
Jun 27, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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And
The Postman
Well who the hell can see forever?
by Alxfritz on
Jun 27, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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Oh, and Carlos Zambrano is tempting the baseball gods
CHICAGO (AP) - Carlos Zambrano wants to pitch in next month’s All-Star game - to help the Chicago Cubs gain homefield advantage in the World Series
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Jun 27, 2008 8:49 AM EDT 0 recs
What a stupid decision that is....
that’s assuming a lot—from a guy who got beat in the playoffs last season when they were swept by Arizona in the first round.
On that note, since it counts, it’s time to take the fan vote seriously and look at coupling it with the votes of the players and managers into some kind of system that allows the players playing the best and giving the team a best chance to win to make the team. Also, I’m a big fan of playing the very best players as long as possible, extending the AS break to 4 days so that starting pitchers can actually pitch, and making sure each team has 3 closers.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 27, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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Sarcasm
I hope everyone takes the above comment as sarcastic—but that’s how ridiculous it is to make the all-star game have an impact on the outcome of the championship series.
I’m sorry, how about we give the team with the BEST RECORD home field in the World Series??
?
?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 27, 2008 3:49 PM EDT
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They wouldn't do that
Because it would be FANtastic.
"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin
by That's a Winner on
Jun 27, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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Here, here! Great article
I’m glad someone is finally talking about the Cardinals having a chance this year, and expressing concern over sacrificing the team’s chances for the sake of one player. How many times have we heard “keep __ on the DL for as long as possible. This season isn’t important. If we fall out of contention, we fall out of contention?”
I’d love to see Garcia pulled up (send Parisi down, perhaps). Give him a chance and see if he’s got the right stuff.
Patiently awaiting Mulder's return, circa 2012
by bjork24 on Jun 27, 2008 8:51 AM EDT 0 recs
Garcia isn't ready.....
Check out his last few starts in Memphis.
by SoonerfanTU on
Jun 27, 2008 9:40 AM EDT
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Garcia could come up
right now and get lefties out from the pen. It’s interesting that you wrote that b/c AZ included last night’s start in his column—6.2 IP, 0 BB, 10 K, 8 ground ball outs, 3 ER and 6 H. He may not be ready to start games for the team (though he’d be as good as Boggs or better if he did) but we probably don’t want him pitching 180 – 190 innings this year anyway. He would instantly become our best LOOGY from the pen if the team decided to go that route.
by houstoncardinal on
Jun 27, 2008 9:56 AM EDT
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What are hus numbers against lefties in Memphis?
Because, unless I’m looking at the wrong ones, they aren’t that great.
by SoonerfanTU on
Jun 27, 2008 11:33 AM EDT
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are you looking at the ones
that show a grand total of 19 plate appearances? Not much to work w/ but striking out 6 out of 19 isn’t too shabby. Still, sample sizes don’t get much smaller than 19. It tells me that AAA managers don’t play many lefties against him.
by houstoncardinal on
Jun 27, 2008 11:46 AM EDT
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Fair enough.....
But can’t the opposite be said too then, that we don’t know that he could even get lefties out consistently at the big league level?
Just b/c he is a lefty, and a pretty good pitching prospect, doesn’t mean he’s ready to mow down lefties.
by SoonerfanTU on
Jun 27, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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A pretty good prospect
he wouldn’t be a pretty good prospect if he couldn’t get out lefties. Look at more than just this year please.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 27, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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His start last night was a masterpiece
with no help from his defense
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jun 27, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
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He gave up more than a hit per inning.....
Nothing masterful about that. 3 ER, not bad, but not steller, and this was one of his better starts in recent weeks, I think.
Not saying the kid stinks, just saying he isn’t ready. I, personally, and not a big fan of letting kids that aren’t ready experience failure at the major league level, and then turn around and get shipped back down to AAA 2 weeks later. We have other choices.
by SoonerfanTU on
Jun 27, 2008 12:36 PM EDT
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Yeah but...
he struck out 10 and didn’t walk anyone! I call that an excellent outing. sounds like the defense let him down as well (he had 2 unearned runs).
also, your comment that he gave up more than a hit put inning is misleading. He gave up 7 hits in 6 and 2/3. That’s just barely more than a hit per inning. for the season he’s given up 59 hits in 59-1/3 innings and has 52 Ks.
by jdubya on
Jun 27, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
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7 baserunners
in 6.2 IP is excellent at any level, even in AAA b/c the defense often lets the pitcher down. Would 4 baserunners have been better? No question but Garcia’s not far from being able to contribute at the major league level. In fact, there’s little doubt that he could step into the pen now and be better than Villone or either of the Floreses.
by houstoncardinal on
Jun 27, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
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You have ridiculous expectations
If you don’t find that outing masterful for a 21 year old at AAA
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jun 27, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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Are you really trying to say
that it would be worse to let Mulder have one last try to be a big-league pitcher than to give his roster spot to Parisi, who’s showing all too clearly that he can’t?
by StanTheManFan on Jun 27, 2008 9:22 AM EDT 0 recs
No
He’s saying give his spot to Boggs are Garcia.
by mikedallas45 on
Jun 27, 2008 9:23 AM EDT
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Comparing apples to firetrucks
Parisi is pitching in relief. If his roster spot were to go to another hurler, it would likely be of the relieving variety. Mulder is a starter, who has not shown any sort of consistency and barely thrown any innings in the minors since getting a second opinion on his shoulder and then retooling his delivery and mechanics. Starting him for the big club is likely not what is best for either Mulder or the Cardinals. I type this in ignorance as to his rehab status, but allowing him another start or two for Memphis would probably be in the best interest of every party here. Let Mulder develop some consistency with his new mechanics in games that are not as important as those that have a direct impact on the playoff hunt.
by bgh on
Jun 27, 2008 9:27 AM EDT
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Parisi
i dont think I saw his name in the post, let me double check. i think the point stands, mulder has shown very little at the AA level and even less at the AAA level, and to boot, other guys are dominating those levels. the point is, why bring mulder up? to me, it just doesnt make any sense.
by UNCDubya on
Jun 27, 2008 9:47 AM EDT
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it's annoying when people try to comment on the post
when they haven’t taken the time to read it, isn’t it?
by houstoncardinal on
Jun 27, 2008 9:57 AM EDT
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Completely agree
What angers me the most though is why do I have to keep reading posts about acquiring Greg Maddux? I’m sick of it. The guy is a 5 inning pitcher who doesn’t help our situation at all.
News Flash!!! Maddux likes pitching in San Diego (for whatever reason) and has a no trade clause. Don’t you think if he were to approve a trade, it would be to a team on the west coast near his home? Makes sense doesn’t it?
So please. I’ve heard ENOUGH about the Greg Maddux crapola. We do not need him.
by Tackle Box on
Jun 27, 2008 11:38 AM EDT
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Trade Duncan
to San Francisco – they need a 1st baseman!!!
by njnick on
Jun 27, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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Calm down
and get your facts straight. There is no reason to be so pushy and sarcastic. Maddux is averaging just over 6 innings in his seventeen starts this year and is holding down a 3.52 ERA. He would be a hell of an addition at the trade deadline if we are still in it, and if he holds up for the entire year. He is still averaging over 200 IP for his career and threw 198.0 last year. He’s on pace to through over 200 again this year and last I checked after WW went down we don’t have a pitcher on that pace right now. Lohse, Looper, and WW may get ther but they are going to have to start going deeper into games like oh lets just say Maddux for instance.
by DJ4508 on
Jun 27, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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Attention
*there may be some sarcasm in this post.
(apparantly forgot to add that part)
by Tackle Box on
Jun 27, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
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Attention
Sarcasm doesn’t translate into written text unless it’s completely over the top and non-sensical…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 27, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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just steal my sig
I don’t mind at all
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 27, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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Home/Away
In SD: 2.46 ERA over 55 IP
Away: 4.75 ERA over 47.1 IP
He wouldn’t be holding down a 3.52 ERA if the majority of his innings weren’t thrown in the pitching-friendly confines of Petco Park. With numbers like these, sarcasm aside, anyone would like pitching in San Diego. They also make him a much riskier proposition in terms of what to expect.
by bgh on
Jun 27, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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OKAY OKAY OKAY
EVERYONE STOP PROVING YOUR POINTS!!!
Obviously, I failed at my attempt at a sarcastic reply to HoustonCardinals response about reading the entire article before responding. Please stop responding to the Maddux thing. I didn’t mean any of it.
Then again, with the way I worded things in direct response to HC’s comment, maybe his recomendation has some merit to it. Either way, I appoligize to bgh and DJ. Some got it, and obvioulsy others didn’t. I by no means want people searching for stats to refute me on this.
by Tackle Box on
Jun 27, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
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who wouldn't
want to pitch in petco, which occupies an alarmingly large part of north america
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Jun 27, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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Bullpen
If Mulder comes up he should be slated as a long reliever and not as a starter. Until he can prove he deserves to be in the starting rotation.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 27, 2008 9:23 AM EDT 0 recs
I think he should be a reliever instead of as starter
because..he hasn’t been in a rotation for almost 2 YEARS! If he can only be effective for a couple innings at a time, why not take advantage of that instead of expecting more?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 27, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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by the way
there is a link on side of the page to marky mark ringtones, if anyone is interested.
by UNCDubya on Jun 27, 2008 9:49 AM EDT 0 recs
if Mulder were a horse
we would have shot by now as the humane thing to do.
by jjray on Jun 27, 2008 9:57 AM EDT 0 recs
I'm not sure when his 30 day window expires
but it’s gotta be coming up soon. This means that the Cards’ brass will have to make a decision on Mulder that, likely, won’t involve keeping him in the minors. They’ll have to pull him up to the big club, DL him, or DFA him. They’re not going to DFA him, whether they should or not. They might try another DL stint, ala Izzy, Flores, and Mulder a few weeks ago but it seems to me that he’s coming whether we like it or not (and I don’t, BTW).
I’m not sure what the options really are. Ideally, I suppose they could DFA him and, when he’s not claimed, send him outright to Memphis but, as I said, that isn’t going to happen. They could release him but that won’t happen either. I imagine we’re going to have to cross our fingers and pray he does at least as well as Boggs. God knows what they’ll do when Wainwright comes back but they’ve got 6 weeks to work on that.
by houstoncardinal on Jun 27, 2008 10:01 AM EDT 0 recs
I'm not so sure we can say they won't DFA him
Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the real reason they wanted him to make a major league start so soon. They have to realize they’re pushing their luck with the DL thing this year and can’t just keep repeatedly throwing underperformers on it without real injuries.
Given Mulder’s 30 day window I bet they really wanted to see what he could do and make the DFA decision.
by birdo rojo on
Jun 27, 2008 10:15 AM EDT
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Boggs will go on Sat. instead of Mulder
Here’s a link to the Notes page on STLtoday that says Mulder’s not ready and Boggs will go.
by birdo rojo on Jun 27, 2008 10:16 AM EDT 0 recs
The side bar ad.
Now has Marky Mark Ring tones. I’ll leave that one where it is.
Anyone live down thwards Steelevile? I am camping out in that area this week and was wondering if there was a local station that carries the Cardinals broadcast?
by Evilfrog on Jun 27, 2008 10:55 AM EDT 0 recs
Radio broadcast
I used to live in Rolla and I think it was 102.1 out of Sullivan that had the games. You can probably get that in Steelville. If not, try 99.7 out of Rolla. Unless you mean Steeleville, IL. If that’s the case, you might be able to pick up 93.1 out of Perryville, MO.
by capeboda on
Jun 27, 2008 11:09 AM EDT
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yes
99.7 is the only one i know of, they also have foxsports-talk all weekend other than ball games
are you taking a float trip, or just the camping?
Pujols is the greatest Cardinal in my lifetime.
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