Game 80 overflow
by lboros on Jun 26, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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Don't get picked off Brendan
and we should be bunting. It ensures Albert bats twice more.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
how'd ryan get on?
my gameday seems to be on the fritz.
Comeon
double leadoff.
Productive at bat barton, bring it.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
for fuck sake
all around. bunting on a ball a foot off the plate, the call, all of it
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
We scored!
on a throwing error into the dugout!
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Miles we need some of that grit
extra helping, thanks
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, we could use some seconds.
and thirds.
Aaron Miles loves the chalk lines
of the OF, that’s for sure.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Why are you people so slow?
these things happen 5 minutes before you guys reply.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
think it has to do with
MLB.tv always being SO FAR BEHIND.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
don't use 1.2M and it's not so far behind
plus this broadcast isn’t in HD anyway so 1.2M is kinda useless.
nevermind, i know what you're talking about...
i dont use 1.2M, ever.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
game gets backed up on mlb.tv
with buffering on mlb.tv you can get a few minutes behind reality.
couldnt tell...
but did they need to hold Ryan?
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
ran on the grass...blocked the view of Miggy
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
throw didnt hit him...
just obstructed the throw/catch
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Barton bunted past the pitcher
Robertson picked it up and threw to first. Barton was running on the chalk line/edge of grass. Cabrera’s fat ass stood on the bag and they called Barton out for interference.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Miles hit a double into the corner
they threw it to the new 2B for the cutoff and he gunned it 20 feet up the line into the Tigers dugout on the fly.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan also stopped at 3B
so there was no reason to make the throw.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it sad
that isn’t probably enough?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
It’s almost comical how they win all these games late….
by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Glaus,
productive. out. thanks.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
pitching change?
Glaus has struck out twice against this guy. Would you change it?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Fernando Rodney
with 2 guys already on. Are they trying to walk in a run?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
for some reason, gameday is showing that the first intentional ball to albert
was right down the middle. heh.
Nice
Consolers of the Lonely is a great great rockin’ song
by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
I just saw them live in STL 2 weekends ago i believe it was at the Pageant
boo cubs, hooray beer
I'm dumb on this but...
Are the White Stripes no more then?
by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure
I don’t think they are no more, but I think they are on the back burner for Jack right now.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Glaus, nothin' but love
but this is the shittiest game you’ve had for a while, all around.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
Ludwick broken bat
groundout to 2B. No runs.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
That's two more LOB
what is the total now?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
Watches that wheelhouse pitch go by
and swings on that insider.
MF..
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
agreed
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Just think
if it wasn’t for that error, we would have left bases loaded with only one out and not scored a run
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
true
best case scenario
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
thrown out for bitching to HP ump
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Glaus
always swinging for the fence, when his shortened swing is 1000 times better. Ludwick thinking every pitch is a fastball.
But when they’re on?!
What happened to Ludwick?
He looks more and more like Chris Duncan
he’s swinging at any outside pitch
You know what's odd.
If you watch Dunc he actually has good AB’s but can’t square anything up…...
You watch Luddy and Ank lately and they have shitty looking AB’s but they manage to square one up once in a blue moon.
Something wrong with Izzy
they were checking him, but he is going to pitch anyways. Where have I seen this before?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions
From everything I've read about him
Regardless of his recent struggles.. The man seems like he could step on a landmine and still try to pitch… In some ways I have to admire that (just wish that it didn’t cost us as many games as it has)
by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
a traditional result for a Albert based lineup. Didn’t miss a beat
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert is killing this team
with his selfish hitting the ball really hard and taking walks.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
assuming you noted my sarcasm, eh?
I’m not bitchin’ about Albert being in, but when he was in all of the talk around here was our LOB woes, now that he’s back we leave ten with a couple of at bats to go. Didn’t miss a beat.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
What's funny
Is that this is what’s happening with the Mariners now. Pitchers like Silva who suck are complaining about Ichiro, as if the one skilled player on that team is the problem with that horrible team.
Ludwick is hurting his trade value
he needs to start hitting again so we can flip him for something of value.
boo cubs, hooray beer
that would be nice
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He must have hurt his hip
back into it’s natural place. It’s 2001 all over again for Jason!
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's hope so!
We need Izzy “old style” if we want to copete this season
by Brianzaredbird on Jun 26, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
old school, please.
old style is a shitty, shitty beer loved only in wrigleyville.
e'rebuilding mang
Kennedy just stands there
as Ryan runs to the other side of the bag to try and make a play on Granderson’s single.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
he's playing 1st base
from second, since playing second from 1st worked sooo well
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
don't forget his wonderful decision to run for that fly ball in CF
and cause Ankiel to freak out and miss it.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Yeah
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
well ryan is the best bet
considering he can throw it on the run but Kennedy would have to change his momentum.
Oh, I know this
but Kennedy just stood there like ‘Heh, look..a ball!”
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Did Granderson fall down?
Cause that was a changeup and then a lollipop throw by LaRue and they still got him stealing.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions
Stache and Gun!
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions
so on that MLB.tv commercial with all the Yankees...
I don’t know who the second guy was, but he was obviously reading.
A-Rod is definitely trained in media-things…
Giambi looks like he’s a big kid.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
I was trying to figure that out yesterday
and while i don’t know who he is, i had a feeling it was duncan. But, he was doing a David Ortiz job on that cue card.
It's funny but..
man that sounds wrong on so many levels… :)
by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If Ankiel gets an 8th inning hit
I’ll do a dance.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions
Not a chance
what an odd split this is.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i just got around to checking out the video of miles' double
it’s almost like raburn was trying to throw the ball exactly between 3B and home
With a short bench
the umps have instituted the ‘peg out’ rule.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
can anyone confirm
whether fernando rodney is fatter than dmitri young? based on the gameday mug, it looks close. which is awesome in and of itself.
e'rebuilding mang
Rick Ankiel may have to be PH for in late game
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
i went outta town for a bit,
come back, and LaRue has a .232 average? holy hell, he’s amazing.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
Just watched the Raburn throw on Gameday
Seeing as how he was standing right on the foul line when he started to throw, I think he missed home plate by about 30 degrees.
That was an awesomely bad throw.
Russ Springer coming in
he has been nails, which means that since we expect him to be good…he will take the loss.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
Izzy is
Springer was warming up. I didn’t think he’d stay in.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ankiel needs to be our LOOGY
after he’s played center to start the game. that way we can take him out before his last at bat
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
I'm going on record as saying
i really don’t understand the “They’ve Landed” commericals with the Statue’s of Liberty.
Since I have no idea what you are talking about
I’m going to go on that record too.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It's on mlb.tv
Its two white statue’s of liberty with baseball logos painted on them, one looking at the real Statue of Liberty, the other with it’s back turned to the statue. They’re sort of going up and down and then it says “They’ve Landed”.
sounds like some kind of advertising
unless the aliens are here
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
They've landed
For the all-star game. Where they came from (France, China?) and why they’re bobbing up and down only Bud knows.
I'm going on record as saying
the commercial with the little asian girl singing “America” makes me want to throw my glass through the television. “Let Fweeedum Wiiiinnng”
KILL ME
ya but kids like kidz bop
they are not the best judge of musical talent
That's not very cool
what do you have against your glass?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing is as bad as the new Six Flags commercials
“MO FLAGS! MO FUN!”
Aside from the hilarious racial exploitation of the Asian dude, those commercials are just incredibly irritating.
yeah
I think no one gives a shit how many flags there are
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I stand corrected
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I was making fun of that commercial 2 days ago.
HATE IT!!!
It’s not cute! She has a speech impediment! Get her to a tutor!!!
That curve was nasty
I’m glad Izzy forgot about it for 2 years.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
very
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Set up, Nice Izzy
(can’t believe I’m saying that)
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah,
they’ve been secretly stretching him out. You know how ladunc loves to do it.
by chicagocardfan on Jun 26, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
7-0
Os over Cubs. BiPolar Betty in full force.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
Careful
That can be extremely painful and cause hearing damage!
by Red in Chicago on Jun 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we continue to dodge the Cabrera bullet
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
No, the bullet caught Kennedy
but he was able to knock it down and throw lard butt out.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that because Miggy is fat and
(wait for it).....LAZY!
uh, yup
lol
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The entire league has been dodging the metaphorical Cabrera bullet all year
He’s been sort of a disappointment for them.
How about Izzy!
I sort of like him better as the 8th Inning guy.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
O/T for those who care...
Spain and Russia 0-0 at half.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
Commercials
These Little Ceasers commercials are made like they were designed for the 90’s with the over the top goofiness.
And that Gary Sheffield commercial was almost like a ‘Feed the Children’ ad.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
I miss Dominoes’ “Noid”, Everytime I see Little C’s commercials I think to back then
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
please *load* bases so they'll pitch to albert
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
double-leadoff men!
Built for this situation!
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
If we do
Duncan will start hitting homeruns again, and Flores will become a shutdown LOOGY
boo cubs, hooray beer
Duncan would then teach Edmonds his newfound secret
And Edmonds would hit 40 homers a year for the next decade for the Cubs.
I think the take sign is 'scratch your butt'
and Oquendo does it every time Ryan is up.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
wow, Todd Jones is 14/14 in SV OPPs?
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
Nice handlebars, TJ
Maybe LaRue could get himself a set like that?
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
I'm going in the other room
for this final inning.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
I think in a tie game,
the team with the most hits should win.
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
way to go skip!
now let’s make sure AP comes up.
Skip!
i’ll take it, come on grit
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
I'll take a simple
“In play, no out” or perhaps a walk
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
I think it's enough
to say he owns him…
by husker4cards on Jun 26, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols v. Jones today:
IBB
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
Remember, it's Leyland
there’s no telling
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
the better question is why would you pitch to albert?
"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon
I'd take either way
The bases loaded with nobody out?
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
woops, forgot
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
Grit!
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
a lot of scoreboard watching going on in the Cardinal dugout
Orioles – 7, Cubs – 0 in the 5th.
Big, big, big.
gotta make up for yesterday's
loss of game in the standings
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Schumaker needs to be a late-game specialist
Regardless of what Barton does innings 1-7, Skip pinch hits for him.
Skippy would hit 1.000.
Take that man to a copy machine
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 26, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
4-4 on base all 5 times!
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
Where's the power?
he’s just a singles hitter these days :)
Dammit
Why didn’t he tell him to hit HRs? They are even easier on the calfs…Bad advice!
by husker4cards on Jun 26, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, Glaus and Luddie
We need more. Don’t add to your cumulative 12 LOB.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 26, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
amazing
he may be even better now!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
First 9th inning call you've made lately that I like Tony
get Albert off his wheels
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
what's the score?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
I wonder if they'll bring in Perez...
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
2-1
runner on 1st, 2nd one out
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd only to Pujols
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Troy needs a couple of days off
you can just see it
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
Wasnt part of the plan at the start of the season to let troy have a day off at least once a week?
by cd on Jun 26, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
injuries have hampered that
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He's played *alot*
since we started having injuries. He wasn’t going to be used so hard this year until the injuries
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If the mugshots were any indication of their ability
Albert would be MIles and Franklin and Peres would be Mariano Rivera
by Red in Chicago on Jun 26, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
based on the mugshots
it looks like Franklin and LaRue are getting ready to go shoot beer cans off a log after the game.
so far we have 14 hits for 2 runs and the tigers have 8 hits for 1 run
so it looks like it takes somewhere in the neighborhood of 7 hits per run today.
as long as franklin can hold them to 5 hits or fewer, we should be okay.
Um
I don’t think that is mathematically possible.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe...
Single, single, single, single (runner from third falls down and is forced out at home on epic throw home by Ankiel), single (runner from third falls down and is forced out at home on epic throw home by Ankiel), strikeout.
It could happen.
actually it is
single – thrown out trying to go for 2
single – thrown out trying to go for 2
single
single
single – bases load
out
5 hits no runs 3 outs
"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon
The fans are really giving it to
this ump. Some nasty stuff being said. I think one of them just called him ‘baby poop’.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
well, the ump is being consistent...
calling the low strikes.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, me too
Sudden sinking feeling, followed by a big sigh of relief when he finally said “it is…foul!”
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 26, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
By the looks of his picture
Clete surely is short for Cletus…
warm me up Tony
I can pitch better than these guys
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 26, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
Sigh
didn’t miss that one
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
He isn't garbage just stupid...Sheff nearly took him over once and he came right back at him & BOOM!
"Why does he keep saying that?"
Fucking useless
Don’t even know why I watch, truthfully. You knew he was going to crank it.
Miles in '08
what the F happened?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
FRANK is the greatest closer evar****
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Man the Tigers are stupid
out at 3rd trying to make a triple.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
Why on earth would you keep shoving fastballs down there
when it was clear that he just needs to adjust timing and it’s gone? sigh.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
As azru? said when Franklin gave up the walkoff HR
a few weeks ago: You already threw that pitch Franklin 5 seconds ago.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright Luddy and Ank...
Time for Luddy to break out of this funk and Ank’s gonna bring the ding as soon as Frank get outta this.
He needs to
Go sit in “time out” and think about what he has done!
by husker4cards on Jun 26, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Franklin needs to
buy Luddy, Ryan, and Miles a few Franklins for that one
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
closer?
not familiar with the term
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
so does anyone really know
why Perez isn’t being used in this capacity at this point? What are we waiting for?
He is unavailible today
after 2 innings of relief yesterday.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
I was at the Boston-Stl game on Sunday, was not pretty…
another extra inning affair?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
These American League games are too
freaking long. No wonder Bud is pissed.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
Ryan Franklin and Solomon Torres
The reasons why neither us, nor the Brewers, are legitimate contenders.
boo cubs, hooray beer
he's been no better than Franklin
and neither is a legitimate closer for a team that hopes to win a world series
boo cubs, hooray beer
Not really
he has been ‘good enough’ to give up just enough runs to not blow the save.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Soloman Torres is not a good pitcher, he'll regress, just like Franklin
which is why neither would be a closer for a contender
boo cubs, hooray beer
Im at work
and haven’t been following the game. Looks like a good game from Albert and the Colonel. I jumped on gameday just in time to see in play (runs)
Oh fooy. Back to work.
LOL
nice call ump, at least they’re going our way some
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
hahahahhaahahah, you aren't serious are you?
Ankiel is completely unable to produce after the 7th inning
boo cubs, hooray beer
the universe would explode
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if we go up by 1 next inning,
what makes you think our ‘pen will make it stand up?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jun 26, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is to avoid
the 2 run walk-off HR…
Would it have mattered?
They walk sheff, Hollimon still doubles and Sheffield scores anyway
boo cubs, hooray beer
same reason they didn't pitch around APu?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You know
For as many times as Izzy has made us crazy and as bad as he was in 2006, Franklin makes me wish Izzy was is old stuff.
Well either that or that the Cards should have Perez closing…
Hows abouts a Studwick moment?
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
Wellemeyer
are they still just being cautious with his elbow? I think he only threw 76 pitches?
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 26, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
called it
and I don’t even like soccer
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Seay
This guy has allowed three HRs in the last three seasons, 82 IP
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
swing the freaking bat LUD
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Its funny
the chemistry between Izzy and Franklin, also Glaus and Ludwick behind Albert. Not much of a team thing going…
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 26, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
If we're going to have blown saves and lose extra inning games
Why can’t we just have a freaking bullpen explosion and not have all this drama?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
So you don't count is TWO HRS yesterday?
“Yeah, but what have you done for me LATELY?!”
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
He said RIGHT NOW. As in...that 5th at bat. :-)
Don’t get me wrong, I think Anks doin work out there, but coulda used him right then.
No
the bullpen is killing this team.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe rather than trying to trade Duncan for
10 cents on the dollar we should be trading Ludwick for $1.50 on the dollar.
or trade Flores, Franklyn and Villone for $.050
by Brianzaredbird on Jun 26, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
How about both.
With the number of talented young relievers in the minors players like Franklin and Izzy offer the team little.
shut up already
mr. “I can just feel it, Ank’s gonna homer”
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
frustration
shouldn’t be aimed at you. apologies
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
no
just back up a non-dfa canidate
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Kennedy?
that’s what you typed in the original post
and one could see that there’s a case for it
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The shitty thing is
El Hombre can’t be the hero (again)
This is the flaw with the Cardinals
Without Albert in the lineup in close situations with home run and strikeout players like Duncan, Ludwick, Ankiel and Glaus kill this team. They all try to kill the ball and win the game with one swing. You saw it in Boston and we are seeing it again today.
I thought that's what putting Parisi in meant.
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
I also enjoy
Rooney using a variation of the word “Lolleygag” whenever describing what Miggy C does.
Well who the hell can see forever?
are you serious?
TLR has got to be drunk. I hope the team bus will be taking him back to the hotel
boo cubs, hooray beer
who else is gonna go?
gotta save Springer for the save situation (rolls eyes)
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 26, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
What's this guy still doing on the team?!!!
The notion that he’s the best option is laughable! Who could be worse?
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
it seems like every game lately is close
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
it's been like this all season
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
make it fun to watch
We’ll get this one. Parisi, don’t let us down, just this once!
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
im out
enjoy the walkoff splendor
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
We need a new overflow
for all the ranting after Parisi coughs it up.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
Use 'em if you got 'em
is he being sent down for Mulder? Or will that be Boggs?
Just wondering if this is Tony giving him a last chance.
he may be getting some Jiminez time
use him now, because he’s back to Memphis
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
gonna have to, anyway
with one out, he’ll either bat with 2 men on and one out or one man on and two outs. Unless we hope for the “fly ball to ankiel for the FBDP” on the tag-up, or something.
Might as well set up the GIDP…
"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN
eh, guess we could have IBB'd Magglio if we got Guillen out.
N/M, following ya now.
"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN
does anyone think
parisi can even get 2 outs before the tigers win it?
Parisi vs.
Ordonez and, if pigs fly, Cabrera is frightening.
Tony must have early dinner reservations.
wonder what Dave is telling Parisi now?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Nice work by Tony here putting 2 men on, realizing that the
3 run home run Parisi is about to give up will make that 8.06 era higher.
anyone taking bets
on what row this lands in
by MotherTruckinSteve on Jun 26, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
what's the over/under?
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
I'd have gone 30
but it was under….somehow
by MotherTruckinSteve on Jun 26, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
this'll be an interesting test
for the pitch-tippers.
Who is laughing, exactly?
"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN
Wait
we are walking the bases loaded so Parisi has to throw strikes?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
They didn't trust him to pitch around Cabrera
He’d miss right over the middle of the plate. You wanna lose by 1 or by 3?
I was wondering the same
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Jun 26, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If we get out of this
I’ll need a smoke.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
damn your eyes
i quit 3 weeks ago and feel like one now
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Jun 26, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
just dont try & get one from Jim
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
question
can anyone explain why you intentionally walk guillen to put granderson in scoring position?
I'd prefer a ball that's swung at
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
So the question of the moment...
If the Cards get out of this, does Tony double his money and bring Parisi back for the 11th?
Doubt I'd do it
but it’s interesting. Put the bases loaded mentality into the batter, any base is a putout, one run will lose it anyways and he’s on third.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
4 curveballs in a row
does Parisi just throw the same pitch over and over again each at-bat?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
bye bye mike
wave goodbye to the major leagues forever
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 26, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
I'll believe that when I see it
Parisi’s done everything he can to get back to Memphis, but LaRussa just can’t seem to quit ‘em.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
he quit on reyes
so why not Parisi?
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 26, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Getting sick of these walk offs.
LOL
ha ha ha
Can’t help but laugh at this shit, Holy hell does out pen suck shit
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
our*
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a lot of room for error when you're instructed to intentionally walk 2 guys
But yes, the bullpen is hurting right now
Not just on Mike directly. But Izzy and Franklin both gave up runs today, and knowing yesterday’s issues..
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't think izzy did.
wasn’t it Villone?
by chicagocardfan on Jun 26, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
mixed yesterday and today
my bad
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
What else would you expect from this bullpen?
The Tigers scored three runs: two of them on bases loaded walks.
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
swear words...
many of them unrepeatable…
enjoy the trip to Memphis Mr. Parisi…
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 26, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
Unworthy of Memphis
Didn’t see or listen to the game. Just saw the result. I vote to bypass Memphis and send Pathetic Parisi to Springfield. Better yet, just give him to the Cubs. The guy is even horrible at reading a lineup (his performance reading the lineup on Saturday for Fox was just as embarrassing for St. Louis as his pitching has been.) He’s gotta go. And go quickly.
by RedbirdattheBeach on Jun 26, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna be sick
Two of their three runs on bases loaded walks.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 26, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
*we wish we'd never met
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
I am sure Parisi is a decent person, but
Please do him a favor an send Mike back to AAA where he won’t be embarrassed.
He forfeit the game when he brought Parisi in
I don’t care how old Springer is.
boo cubs, hooray beer
because KMac did such an amazing job of not giving up the game winner last night
No one in this pen is truly solid.
boo cubs, hooray beer
i've always hated
walking the bases loaded… it gives the pitcher no maneuverability. i know thomas isn’t the hitter cabrera is, but with the bases loaded, his odds of driving in that run increase dramatically (it’s basically cabrera’s AVG vs. thomas’ OBP). at the very least i’d’ve had parisi throw junk to cabrera, try to get him to go fishing (which, trying to be the hero, cabrera may be more apt to do). we all know parisi is no good, but i still feel like TLR hung him out to dry. damn…
bullpen goes to 9-18
just despicable
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 26, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
1. Parisi is just bad...
2. Why would you give them so many free baserunners?
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
the runner closest to home is what hurts
nothing else.
runner was on 2nd as a result of the bunt
runner was on 3rd as a result of the flyball and advance
the runners behind him meant nothing, but extra putouts
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
without all the free runners...
you dont have a walkoff walk…
at least make them earn the damn thing with a hit.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
they meant a bases-loaded
walk off walk…
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
well, I expect a major league pitcher to throw strikes
it’s not that difficult. And please don’t make a comment about Parisi in regards to strategy. You have to pick Thomas over Cabrera there. It’s not even a choice.
The bullpen can't throw strikes
that is their problem.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
But that's like sayin
I can’t walk a straight line, so what does it matter if I walk on the window ledge or on the sidewalk. One is increasing your chances of failure exponentially.
As someone pointed out, we made it Miggy’s BA vs Thomas’ OBP. Thomas OBP will win.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd take a hihgher percentage of getting beat over a lower
percentage of getting beat?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not quite as simple as that
But it’s not a higher percentage since walking the batter really isn’t an option for the pitcher. It ensure’s a run and the end of a game. Either beat him by striking him out or force him to hit the ball which gives you roughly a 65% chance of getting out of the inning.
How many times has Thomas walked in a situation when he absolutely cannot be walked? Possibly never. And that’s the situation you were in. I agree in any other situation, its ridiculous to load the bases and create a situation where a walked in run is a posibility. But this is an entirely different situation.
At any point in a game, a walk does not end the game. In this situation, it does. Basically, you take on base pct. out of the equation because it isn’t an option. Thomas didn’t draw a walk, Parisi walked him with a stupid pitch that wasn’t anywhere near the strike zone. Parisi failed to execute his job. It wasn’t a bad call. It wasn’t a borderline pitch that could go either way. It was a horrible pitch.
Plus, you increase your chances of getting an out by creating a force play at every base on the infield.
Don’t confuse Parisi’s failure with Thomas’ success.
Our bullpen sucks
Please Mo trade for some decent reliever
i can’t watch those miserables throwing games way like this
3-3 trip against Boston and Detriot...
trying to stay positive.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 26, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
And all 3 losses
Were walk-offs given up by the pen. Although the offense deserves equal blame for two of those losses…
MY KINGDOM!
MY KINGDOM FOR A RELIABLE BULLPEN!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
The most significant outcome of this trip
will be Izzy – ready or not – regaining his closer’s job. Yeech.
Franklin can barely get the job done, even when he does get the save
So, fuck it, might as well give Izzy the chance
boo cubs, hooray beer
seriously
we should stop talking about getting sabathia, bedard, or furcal, and just get some relievers who don’t lose multiple games a week
think about it.
is there anyone in the bullpen that you consider reliable other than the rookie?
Russ Springer
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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I am so frigging mad right now
our bullpen has sucked ass all year, and tony sucks at managing it
They say I look like yadier molina
I still don't understand where
Springer has been the last two games…
with this bullpen
300+ a day point drops in the stock market, $140 dollar a barrel oil, $4+ dollar a gallon gas, flooding in the midwest, fires in the west,
it damn well may be ending
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Do you live in Mexico?
Or somewhere else that gas is subsidized by the gov’t?
When I lived in Australia (I'm sure it's up now)
it was 1.30/Litre.
so I won’t complain on these rates – knowing it could be worse
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Aussie
but this was back in 2000-2005, so keep in mind where our gas was then
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I left here paying less
per gallon than litre there. I loved my Commodore SS though, so it was worth it.
They made it as the Pontiac GTO up here. Very nice car.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, me too
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta love Cali****
ouch bro, but in my defense, i did say $4+ a gallon. the + is the key
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Needs....a clinic on throwing strikes with the bases loaded for the bullpen staff.
I count at least 3 runners now in the last 6 games that were walked in by our bullpen. For Gods sake throw a strike even if it gets ripped at least there is a chance.
That was horrible nothing pisses me off more than going out like that….
"Why does he keep saying that?"
The problem is..
they’re playing way better than the Red Sox and Detroit right now
by Brianzaredbird on Jun 26, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The mismanagement of the bullpen has got to stop
it is causing me to break the keyboard
They say I look like yadier molina
Yeah, Parisi is absolute garbage
He’s just inexcusable. Question is, if we get Mulder back on Saturday, do we send down Boggs, or throw him in the pen?
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
Worst case
Make Boggs the long relief and consider the fact that he may end up pitching from the start should someone else go down.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This is why I hate day games
now the rest of my night is ruined because of this crap
boo cubs, hooray beer
Our pitchers have walked runs in with the bases loaded 3 times this week
They say I look like yadier molina
the only thing that will make my day better
is if i get laid
and the odds of that happening are about as good as the odds that Parisi wasn’t going to give up the winning run with the bases loaded
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
First the ron villone coming in was a total waste and just stupid
and then parisi when you have a number of pitchers still available
They say I look like yadier molina
Regressing to the mean, my friends
That’s what this ballclub is doing right now. Ludwick, Franklin, Ankiel… Not the end of the world yet, but it is a bit worrisome as we look down the road this summer.
We'll see...
That’s what people have said after every tough loss we’ve had this season. Then the team bounces back and wins a bunch of games.
boo cubs, hooray beer
this team really only has one glaring weakness and it is the bullpen
whoever thought signing villone was a good idea needs his head examined
They say I look like yadier molina
ANKIEL regresssing
GeezLafuckingwheez. What the hell does Ankiel have to do?
I forget, he has had a terrible f-in week..
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
2 homers in one game last night doesn't count for much I guess
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
and you can't regress to a mean
when there isn’t yet a mean to regress to.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
so we have to discount homers on fat pitches now?
you don’t get credit for hitting pitches you are supposed to hit?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you walk in the winning run. Throw a strike or lose. I guess Parisi was to scared to lose like a big leaguer.
"Why does he keep saying that?"
That's why I hate walking the bases loaded in that situation
I know you have to pitch to Clete Thomas over Miguel Cabrera, but it’s almost inviting the inevitable walk off walk
boo cubs, hooray beer
of the 6.8 billion people on the planet
If I ranked everybody on earth by how comfortable I would feel with them on the mound for the Cardinals, Mike x%x##$ Parisi would be 6,792,104,953rd, behind the 62-year-old Botswanan man who lost both his arms in a civil war, but ahead of the 117-year-old European woman.
$x%x$#%x%x%&&%$#%$x%x$x%xx%x*&^
The checker at the grocery yesterday...
Pointed to a woman in one of the aisles and said she was 105 years old.
I think the checker was crazy
I would have guessed the woman
was 70 or 75…
that game is over
Cubs are good, and have a flare for the dramatic, but they won’t come back
boo cubs, hooray beer
The Mariners in 2001
Lost a game to the Indians after having a 14-2 lead going to the bottom of the 7th. Funny thing is, if the M’s had won they would have won 117 on the year and broken the single season record.
I watched that game
for reasons I’m still not sure why. But it was epic and it was awesome.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If Theriot goes deep here
I’ll start to worry…
ludwick's day
runners on first and second - struck out to end the inning
runner on first - grounded out to end the inning
runners on first and third - popped out to end the inning
runners on first and third - grounded out to end the inning
then struck out to lead off the 10th
yeesh
and he looked bad all day at the plate
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 26, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
that's your scapegoat right there
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
at this point, i'm ready to give Kelvin Jiminez a shot, if it means getting Parisi off this damn team.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Oh he'll get into a groove all right
Right down the heart of the plate
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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If it were me?
I’d fast track 2-3 who are projected to be bullpen pitchers into memphis and start having bullpen rotation based games. Flush a couple of good ones out and then clean house.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
gonna have to anyways
I mean, most of these fools are contract up at the end of the year
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Giving away games is foolish.
And frankly, the pen has given up 18 of them.
So the terminology stands
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Um no
That is what we call a waste of money.
Look at how well over-spending for last year’s top reliever on the free market has worked for Baltimore. relief pitching is pretty unpredictable and spending valuable FA dollars on it is no better than gambling.
I know, relief pitching is a crap shoot
I guess i’ll just be happy if we can sign a good LOOGY instead of scouring the scrap heap for Ron Villones
boo cubs, hooray beer
Ron Villone
is an excellent LOOGY. Beyond that, though, not so much.
Well who the hell can see forever?
if only the LOOGYs
were in only to do their jobs. I wouldn’t have so much much to bitch about though.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
the tough thing
is that you usually can’t buy your way into a decent bullpen. relievers are so variable - even the good ones generally peak for a year or two before fading - that almost every time a team declares they’re going to unleash some payroll on bullpen-building, they end up throwing away a lot of money (the phillies, e.g., tried that for years). of course our bullpen needs to be rebuilt, but for the most part it think it’ll take good scouting rather than “every last penny”...
and i just
repeated JMedwick’s point by accident (in other words, i agree with him)
Indeed
I think one of the greatest remaining inefficiencies in baseball is that teams still try to spend their way out of bad bullpens. I wonder how good of a farm system/ team you could build by focusing on developing a bullpen from within and then after a breakout year from some of the players, trading them off at the deadline for other valuable pieces. For bad teams like the Pirates and Royals, it seems like a faster way to improve the team talent base by ensuring that each season you have enough cheap relief talent that a few gems emerge and then trade them away at the deadline for players that can help long term.
i'm going to call that strategy
“the Larry Andersen”
alright, “foolish players”..
you all content?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
sadly enough, I’ve read.. and agree with several more terms used today on here alone, but “fool” is what bothers you, i’ll change it to make it all better
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
fine, my point was scroll up.
but if throwing more fastballs to Sheffield after it’s clear from his foul balls that he connects and it’s fair it’s gone isn’t a fool’s decision, then I don’t know what to say.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 26, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Parisi
Can we take him behind the woodshed now? As soon as I saw his name as the pitcher, I knew it was a lost game. Just like Sunday.
Negativity be damned
We are sweeping the Royals this weekend. I’m calling it and it is going to happen. Bet your first born.
boo cubs, hooray beer
+1 my man
I am very happy with this team and that is why I get so upset when they lose games like this. But this has got to be in my opinion the worst loss of the year considering if we had won we would have taken two series in a row. Not to mention the 14 hits and only 2 runs. When you have that many men left on base you can feel that it is gonna come back and bite you. Even so we were two outs away from winning that game and the series. Something has seriously got to be done to the bullpen. Heads need to roll and changes need to be made starting with the aquisition of a knew lefty reliever. Also I wish Tony would designate more obvious rolls for the bullpen, it is anyones guess on any given day how the bullpen is going to line up. I actually like how much he changes up the offensive lineup, and seeing all the lobs today makes me think that it is time for yet another lineup switcheraroo. How about putting yadi higher in the lineup or even boog and possibly resting luddy and/or glaus for a couple games, give stavinoha a couple shots in rbi situations. The 4 5 and 6 spots in the lineup are the biggest rbi spots so it is tough to have those three spots occupied by very streaky hitters. Those are just my thoughts…..........................
Now go sweep the Royals you Red Birds, I expect 13 games over the 500 mark
They say I look like yadier molina
Wow
cubs with two outs in the bottom of the 9th and they send Neal Cotts up to bat for himself. Maybe they didn’t have any more hitters, but thats just a blatant give up.
Anyway. cubs drop 2 of 3 to Baltimore at home. I’ll take treading water with the cubs if we’re in Detroit and they’re hosting the O’s.
But now the Brewers are a single game behind us for the Wild Card :/
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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Their bullpen is as bad as ours
They won’t run away with the Wildcard, it’ll likely be a neck and neck battle between them, us, and at least one other team that makes a run (I’m looking at you, Braves)
boo cubs, hooray beer
the season isn't halfway over yet though
who cares?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, someone posted some ugly stats on the STLToday forums.
Cardinals have blown 17 games when leading in the 7th/8th innings. Imagine if we’d been able to close out half of those. The Cardinals bullpen is like my short game in golf. I can drive far and straight, take great shots with my irons, but when it comes to finishing it out I 3 putt way too often.
boo cubs, hooray beer
yeah
we could be ahead of the cubs if we could stop the bleeding
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Off subject
Has anyone hear any news on how Jess Todd has been doin this last week? Last I heard the guys was damn near ready for another promotion.
got roughed up a bit in his last start(5ER in 5 IP) before the Texas League ASG
but struck out 5 in two innings in the ASG
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
These last three losses have been hard to swallow
Because we were in the game until the very end in all of them. When I looked at the schedule at the being of the year I said to myself. “man, we would be lucky to get out of 2-4 from boston and Detriot.” Actually, it was more like “what the F&$. Why are we going to bostong and detriot. In the same week. That bullsht.” Or something like that.
So to get 3-3 from those two. I’ll take it. Sucks we could have gone 6-0. And it’s clear that our bullpen is our weakness. Just not surprising against line ups like the Red Soxs and the Tigers.
Good the see Welly and Pujols back.
the 3 losses to the Royals
hurt a lot more. although we could have swept both the Tigers and the Red Sox, how cool would that have been? maybe it’s better we didn’t, cuz every team then would be geared up for us like no tomorrow
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
why do the Royals have to be playing do good NOW?
won 10 of 11? C’mon, you are supposed to be the ROYALS!!!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
in all fairness
at the start of the season they looked like they were going to contend for the AL Central (maybe they still are)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The Royals?
They did not look like they were going to contend at all. They had no chance vs CLE, DET, and CHW. They probably were going to be fighting neck-in-neck with the Twins for last place.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
what I meant by start of the season
was that they were off to a good start. before the season, of course they were picked last or whatever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
granted
they were only in first place for the first two weeks or so
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Great, I'm pretty excited about seein how he progresses
Hopefully he’ll be able to ad some of that good homegrown talent everyone seems to be lookin for these days
Holy Shit
TLR said that Miles was the next pitcher to come in, after Parisi. I guess if we go into extra innings, he is just going to start forfeiting games?
boo cubs, hooray beer
I'm guessing the Rotoworld comment about Pujols is sarcastic/joke?
“he has now had five plate appearances without an extra base hit. he might be done”
Obama/Pujols 2008.
he's just warming up
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a particularly nice
piece of snark at that.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
so do you think
that our bullpen is sucking because the starters aren’t putting in enough innings? I think it’s probably more of a mismanagement thing (although everything else is managed pretty well) as well as needing an effective shutdown guy there. But is the bullpen actually getting taxed?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions
I think it is because
they don’t throw strikes.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 26, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
second that.
Though it would be nice if our starters could go deeper into games. Less innings is a resault of shuffling pitchers though.
Victim of circumstance
The last two games were unfortunate in that typically (except maybe Boggs) our pitchers had been going deep. Yesterday, with the rain delay, Lohse was shortened. Granted, he wasn’t throwing well and had a high pitch count, but he would have at minimum gotten through 5 and possibly through 6. Today, Wellemeyer was pulled due to a pitch count. He looked to be firmly in control. I forgot to check his pitch count, but I think it’s safe to say he typically would have gotten into the 7th had he not been coming back from an injury.
Most of them don't have the stuff to get away with strikes.
We have too many “no stuff” pitchers on our staff that need pinpoint control to survive. If Flores, Franklin, Izzy, Villone, or Parisi throw strikes they tend to get hammered.
yeah
this is payback from getting lucky last year with the bullpen. unless Ryan Franklin was the one holding things together
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
correction
meant to say Tyler Johnson
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he did
55 games, actually. He was overused early, unfortunately, but with a DL stint in between he was able to finish the season. Hurt his rotator cuff this spring, though, or admitted to it being hurt last year (how huge is THAT injury looking right now?) and had arthroscopic surgery in May.
Are you thinking of Josh Kinney? He’s not a LOOGY, but is a righty with a wicked slider that lefties couldn’t touch… he had TJ in spring training of ‘07 and then broke his arm or something while rehabbing?
Either one of those guys would be a huge pickup right now.
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Realy, 2007 was the one holding things together
by being a closer we could count on. Springer and franklin were also flat-out awesome, though.
"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN
good point
not enough confidence, or just not very good control-wise?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding!
Parisi is a guy who does not have an “out” pitch…..... He got up 1-2 and he does not have a wipe out pitch, therefore he fucked around and eventually walked the guy..
The only pure strikeout pitcher in the pen is Perez but he doesn’t know where the fuck he is throwing the ball as of late….
To have a good bull pen you really need strike out guys….....
AKA…Carlos Marmol, Bob Howry (good fastball, thats all he really throws), Kerry Wood
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