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Game 79 Open Thread: June 25, 2008

St. Louis Cardinals at Detroit Tigers, Jun 25, 2008 7:05 PM EDT


Lohse Galarraga
9-2, 3.63 7-2, 3.03

the springfield cardinals host the Texas League All-Star Game tonight, with jess todd starting for the north all-stars. i'm pretty sure you can get a gameday feed here.

armando galarraga was one of the three players washington dealt to texas for alfonso soriano. he has been particularly hard on national league hitters, holding them to a .162 / .260 / .235 line so far in 3 starts (77 plate appearances).

according to josh kalk's pitch-type profile, galaragga throws a fastball, slider, and changeup. he averages about 91 mph with the fastball, and he throws the slider nearly as often (37 percent of the time) as the fastball (44 percent). with 2 strikes on the hitter, he goes to the slider more than half the time.

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No Studwick in the lineup tonight, according to Yahoo

I choose to spin this favorably by saying that he wasn’t hitting anyway.

by mojowo11 on Jun 25, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't mind him getting a day off

he was slumping. Might as well rest him, and let him come back fresh later

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jun 25, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Why make this into a negative? He clearly needed a day or two off.

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 25, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

I don’t actually mind, per se, but it’s still scary to see the lineup without our two best bats.

by mojowo11 on Jun 25, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hot start or no

I’d be surprised if Glaus didn’t end up with a better offensive year than Ludwick. And that’s not really meant as a rip on Ludwick

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jun 25, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I’m sure we’ll see him pinch hit.

by mojowo11 on Jun 25, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

great interview with pinero on fsn

seems like a cool guy

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 25, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

short recap

for those who missed it?

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't miss much

He seems like a personable guy, but he basically just gave stock answers to all the baseball questions. I thought the most interesting part was him joking about how bad of a hitter he is and how “Looper thinks he’s going to hit .500 this year or something.”

by mojowo11 on Jun 25, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love how

he likes interleague play bc when he pitched in the AL he looked forward to hitting, even though he wasnt any good at it

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 25, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

any national coverage or streaming video feed

of the TL all star game? I’d really like to see Todd pitch…

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

On pitching, anyone think Mulder will contribute anything to any team this year? (other than Cardinal opponents)

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

like everyone else,

I was pumped about the new arm angle and the 91mph throwing…only to get dejected by rocking he received last start and yet another setback.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jun 25, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really does sound like more of a "we'll see" than anything.

But yeah, it’s hard NOT to be skeptical about the guy

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jun 25, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You really love that guy don't you...

Why is that? And this is totally a question out of curiosity, not to pick a fight. I have just seen you repeatedly cut Mulder slack in your posts that you don’t hand out to other players in the organization. Just wondering what your thoughts are on him…

by moser34 on Jun 25, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he may not contribute much as a starter

but I think(hope) he replaces Flores at the least

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

chat on p-d said that wasn’t happening. not that i think they’re the know all be all, but at least from the “almost inner circle” that’s whats being said

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell, even the Cardinals may have said that

but if Mulder does make it back and they find he can pitch effectively , but for not more than a few innings at a time, they would have to be crazy to not think of putting him in the bullpen. A mostly effective Mulder can be no worse than what they have gotten out of the LOOGYs lately.

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't think I don't agree with you

I’d take Mulder (upon return) over flores anyday.

just passing along what came out today

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got your drift

if only they listened to us like they should

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good lord, the Tigers averages against Lohse are frightening

This’ll be a good test for ole Lohsey

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 25, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

holy shit

skippy leadoff homer

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 25, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Skip!

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 25, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Gone!

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

The Skip

Is LEGIT!

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Who the hell is this guy?

did an alien replace Skip?

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

damn, his fastball has some nice movement

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

We need a new batting coach

these idiots are still swinging at the first pitch!!

by Tackle Box on Jun 25, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Rick!

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 25, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

ank's turn

something special tonight?

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 25, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Ank!

lol, Gone!

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

hey

Rick took the first pitch.

by Evilfrog on Jun 25, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

And look where it got us. They only need 14 pitches to get out of the inning :-)

by Evilfrog on Jun 25, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great way to work the count!

Fire McRae!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think i need to add that sarcasm disclaimer to my signature.

by Tackle Box on Jun 25, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

you may

it’s too subtle, lol

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is the big boy pants league

taking pitches just because is for 12 year olds.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jun 25, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Galaraga doesn't

seem too interested in crossing the plate…....

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 25, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

When

I watch GameDay and Dunc and I see that it’s an in play, out. I look for the red dot in the infield out of habit:( sigh

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I know

but there’s still a habit

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a pretty hard hit ball

just right at cabrera

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 25, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

that out

was better than a Miles single

by enoscountry on Jun 25, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

no out that doesn't score a run

is better than a single

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahh

I thought you had lost your mind

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good start boys

I love this team

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 25, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm supposed to relay a message

Kennedy wants to have your baby

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

My name is andrew kersting therefore ak

Way to pitch out of it Kyle, now settle down

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 25, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else miss Polanco? Would you trade Glaus straight up for Polanco?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

no

who would play third?

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell No!

That wasn’t quite enough

FUCK NO!

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Preach it brotha

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet...

your sig says otherwise, no?

by dj tanner on Jun 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you consider Glaus’ new feet here, where our prospects line up and how Glaus’ contract allows us to put Wallace on a two year time scale, and what he provides our lineup, I’ll stick to thinking that trade would be ignorant at best, down right stupid as a worse case.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus trading a power hitting third baseman

for an older non-power hitting second baseman is not a good trade in my book

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

not when you have ryan

if without being platooned may make that 2nd baseman a far less issue.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

When you consider your condescension dripping response to 2 harmless links about Win Shares, you might question whether a well-meaning person may take you to be a trite and arrogant Cardinal fan, out to prove, at best, he’s a die-hard fan, and at worst, that he’s got some sort of inferiority complex.

Dunno…just thinking out loud, I guess.

by dj tanner on Jun 25, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You typed “if you’re interested” in reply to me, I replied “I’m not”.

Seems you’re the one making it out to be the big issue and lean on a single stat. Fine with me, but your rants to follow it up on are pretty baseless. Continue though, I’ll read them :)

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright

then…My fault. Just really meant to put them out there for the other people in here. I apologize for hitting the wrong “Reply” button and burdening you w/ the deadly Win Share.

by dj tanner on Jun 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Polanco

but that would be a horrible trade

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan

has started 19 games in right field this year? i remember some starts in colorado, where else?

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

let's get a lineup up in here

Schu – RF
Miles – 2B
Ank – CF
Glaus – 3B
Dunc – LF (uhoh)
Molina – C
Kennedy – 1B (huh)
Stav – DH
Ryan – SS

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa

was that called strike on Ordonez REALLY that far outside?

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

whew!

can’t believe he made it outta there unscathed, having to face ordonez and cabrera

by djones9 on Jun 25, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Lohse

you are the savior of ‘08

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Elias type question

I can’t find anything on this on the Internet. If anyone knows these answers I would appreciate it.

What is the record for most number of different team starting lineups during a regular season? Who else but Tony would own it? And, are we on pace to getting that record this year?

Good job Lohse to get out of that..

by enoscountry on Jun 25, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I would think

that we are going to blow that record out of the water this year

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

last year

he used a ton of lineups even before he switched the pitcher from 9th to 8th.

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he had to be close

to setting or breaking it last year

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't remember where I saw the number...

But Tony wasn’t leading it – he was in 3rd or 4th. I think it was for the ‘07 season. Crap – can’t remember who was number 1 either.

by birdo rojo on Jun 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found this

“During last year’s 162-game season, La Russa varied his starting lineup 150 times – more often than anyone else in the National League.

In the two previous seasons, La Russa used 131 and 138 variations”

from here

by enoscountry on Jun 25, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way to pitch out of that one! If we hold on we'd be 4-1 so far. NOt bad

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep.

They started the runner so Glaus came home with it. Yadi backed him up and Glaus applied the tag.

by Egyptian on Jun 25, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it wouldn't surprise me if they haven't

How many announcers really do their job right?

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 25, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not

the wink means I’m kidding…

I’ve always known Skip could hit at the ML level but I never thought he’d have 6 homeruns at this point in the season.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

That's a sharp slider.

no wonder he’s so good against RH

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

his fastball

has a solid break in it as well.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

A W F U L

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the risk you take

when you play a guy at an unnatural position.

Tigers announcer says that was Lohse’s mistake. What a moran.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Yesterday Shannon was gushing over Kennedy - not so today. Is Kennedy a regular customer at Shannon's restaurant or something?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

at least ank canned another at 3rd

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 25, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

He better be in serious contention for

GG

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

buckle down Lohse

don’t let ‘em hit it to our second baseman. I mean, first baseman

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe we should try busting them in

the rest of the game because spraying it to the right side is exposing our defense.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, we could switch positions and still keep the same lineup, Tony has to reconsider what he’s doing. Stav can’t be that bad, I didn’t look past last year, but he wasn’t exactly error prone

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

he = stav

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

la russa lineups by season with stl

number in parenthesis includes pitchers

2008 – 51 (72)
2007 – 125 (151)
2006 – 101 (144)
2005 – 92 (133)
2004 – 93 (132)
2003 – 98 (141)
2002 – 79 (123)
2001 – 87 (131)
2000 – 113 (144)
1999 – 116 (142)
1998 – 114 (143)
1997 – 111 (136)
1996 – 80 (124)

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

so he's not on pace

to break last year’s count since we’re halfway.

Still, with the pitcher batting 8th – 9th last year, we certainly have a good mix this year

by enoscountry on Jun 25, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait

those are just defensive lineups, not batting orders. i’ll have those in a minute

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't see the game. Lohse not too sharp or are the Tigers hitting good pitches?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

little of both

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little of both

Not much motion in the fastball

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 25, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Kennedy stays at first...

on the ground ball, Lohse might still be pitching a shutout or 1 run allowed.

by jdubya on Jun 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or if someone who has played 1st base for more than 24 hours was playing first....

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 25, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about the rest of the game we

swing at first pitches? it’s obviously working this game.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

whew

I sat in the seats right behind the dugout in left last year and the sun can be miserable. I’ll take it though.

by birdo rojo on Jun 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

it wasn't the light

it was miles’ grit—thames couldn’t handle it

by djones9 on Jun 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice. Is Albert back for sure tomorrow?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

He's sure hitting it hard

hope he’s heating up a little. Would love to see him on fire as Pu comes back

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Gallaraga is sporting a .212 BABIP

He’s good at making those balls find gloves. For now.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 25, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strike?!

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got home from softball

Listened to the Kennedy travesty on the radio, and thought, the Detroit guys are just making it sound worse than it is. I just saw the replay on Gameday. What the fuck was he thinking?!

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

as a career 2nd baseman?

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not his fault he's playing 1B when we actually have a 1B on the roster AND IN THE FUCKING GAME

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 25, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah

did Tony really think he’d get away with this two games in a row?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

For real

I think I’d honestly rather Kennedy play LF and Dunc first than the way they’ve got it right now

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

kennedy

doesnt have thier bat.

by Evilfrog on Jun 25, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not what I'm talking about

Just defense. We’d be better defensively with Kennedy in LF and Duncan at 1B. This is considering we have all the same guys in the lineup Tony does.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

and while he has good feet and can shift quickly

he’s not really fast, you’re not going to get a traditional burst like you do with most outfielders.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think of it as opportunity cost

Duncan has played OF some in the majors, buthe’s still a butcher in LF. He’s not great at 1B, but he’s passable. You either have one guy in his natural position and one guy way out, or you have one guy in his “learned” positon and the other guy way out. IMO you are better defensively the other way.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans

by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen Kennedy play 1st now

I can’t imagine it’s any worse

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 25, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd give Kennedy the day off

and put Barton in the outfield. but that would break the Larussa code

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

W R E T C H E D

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

to be fair

that second pitch was NOWHERE close.

Dunc had to commit on the last one

by gocards62 on Jun 25, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he had two more

in the same area that were called correctly, he has to assume the first call was errant

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pu

looks to be Dh’ing his way back in.

Nothing new on Mulder, except the two missed starts (back to back days) due to his back

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Carroll at BP

had it in his column this afternoon. Link is subscription only.

by dj tanner on Jun 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's only a side-session

and only if his back doesn’t hurt. MLB.com

by Red in Chicago on Jun 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man...

My girlfriend and I got pulled out for the “going-through-all-your-sh$t-asking-you-4,000 questions-20 minute delay-Security Screening last week at the aiport.

I’ve tried to block it out of my mind, unsuccessfully.

by dj tanner on Jun 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought he was throwing today? (bullpen session, obv)

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

seven hits for six outs. Ungood ratio

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

ok

I screwed up and posted the number of defensive lineups before… so…
TLR batting orders since 96, (pitchers included in parenthesis)

2008 – 67 (75)
2007 – 148 (159)
2006 – 131 (155)
2005 – 138 (155)
2004 – 119 (147)
2003 – 126 (153)
2002 – 117 (141)
2001 – 117 (147)
2000 – 136 (156)
1999 – 138 (154)
1998 – 133 (156)
1997 – 146 (161)
1996 – 120 (151)

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

'97

was just as bad as ‘07 for confusing people

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

'97 leads the way?

was that also the year when he experimented with the 8 spot? That means only 1 day he had the same lineup – amazing. So the only way it’s not the record is if it someone has 162

by enoscountry on Jun 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

including pitchers means if morris bats 9th one day and woody the next, but 1-8 is the same, its two different lineups

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

but after 1 time through the rotation that shouldn’t matter. Look at it this way, only 16 times did he have the same 1-8 out of 162. I can’t imagine anyone beating that.

by enoscountry on Jun 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

How horrible is Laz Diaz?

Get rid of this clown. He’s a punk.

by MichiganBird on Jun 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Love it

Tigers announcers say “looked fair from here.” They show one replay that shows its foul… then don’t show it again.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

no wonder kyle has been so good this year

they put everyone who can hit him on one team

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 25, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

brilliant

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

as they taught me in umpire school...

“When they argue, they are really just mad at themselves.”

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks man

you get a freebie hit, then you argue called strikes. the umps are now in our favor

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

did anyone see the Beltran/Manuel ejection?

that umpire instigated the bump and should be suspended.

by enoscountry on Jun 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but this one Thames practically tried to make out with the ump.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big K there

way to go, Kyle. One more!

by gocards62 on Jun 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

bye, bye

glad he’s out. he’s been killing the ball.

by jdubya on Jun 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice two outs on one pitch not in play

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

rooney sid

“the way this strike zones going tonight, someone’s gonna get thrown out”

next pitch…

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Thames Ks

have saved our ass twice over. I’m gonna miss him.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

i'll take a make-up call strikeout

after the phantom HR yesterday and the fake fair ball tonight.

by effin fisk on Jun 25, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Corret way to phrase that:

“What’s the Sheff cooking?”

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jun 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nor a dead dog

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll believe it when I see it

I’d say there is about a 5% chance of AK being on this team at the start of next season.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you expect them to waste money?

I think he’ll at least be a back up guy if nothing else (no one would want him)

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone brought a defibrilator

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball Gods come through

on the foul ball that was called fair.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, Tigers have 8 hits already...

unless Lohse settles down, looks like the bullpen is going to get a workout tonight.

by jdubya on Jun 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

it's not that Lohse is unsettled

so much as it is that EVERY PLAYER in the Tigers lineup owns Lohse. This is a brutal matchup for him. But as ANDYAK47 said, just be thankful they all play on one team.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sixty pitches through three. Not likely to go past five at this rate. Izzy? Perez? Miles? Pisspoorisi?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Would you burn Boggs

and bring up Thompson? When’s the last time he pitched? avail for Sat?

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

he kicked a puppy last night

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

not disclosing his elbow issues

that put him on the dl soon after being put in Memphis

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seen that

but it read as if he was in the doghouse around going down in April. He came up once since, thought they may use him on Sat.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Former Auburn great Clete Thomas in LF :D

One of my best friends was roommates with his wife while we were in school

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DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

You gotta love

the way Detroit stands in there. They will hit the fastball, but don’t seem to be off balance for breaking stuff…........Its doing to take 6 or better to win this..

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Jun 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Why not Boggs anyway?

Doesn’t he have to throw a side tomorrow?

by Red in Chicago on Jun 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL wow

good effort Mags

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually

He did. Yadi is on second and Kennedy is on third. Shhh. Don’t tell the umps.

by mojowo11 on Jun 25, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kennedy is really hitting the ball well

Here is some love Adam

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 25, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like backing a 1000-1 horse.

You know it will probably die before the finish line but you can’t help cheering for it.

by notmorganfreeman on Jun 25, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kennedy is starting to win me over a little bit

but I’m sympathetic to the scapegoat I guess

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont look now

Kennedy is hitting 271!

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

not too shabby

that’s about what I expect out of him

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's like I've

kicked the shit out of him for almost a month and now he’s giving puppy dog eyes and a lil tail wag.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

Maybe that could be our selling point in a trade

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DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

the tigers can't play defense against the cards

and we got a world series outta them

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Jun 25, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Stavinoha

is making a GOOD case to stay with the big club

by gocards62 on Jun 25, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Tigers have T-ball D

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Tigers' Defense,

Thank you.

Again.

Sincerely,
The St. Louis Cardinals

by bosman on Jun 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Huge fan of productive outs.

Nice Stav, two days in a row

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

If Guillen catches the ball

It’s a complete failure at execution instead of anything that should be called “productive.”

by mojowo11 on Jun 25, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll still take it

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stav infection

Doing all the little things

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

for ‘Stav infection’.

by Phizzle on Jun 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Tigers got lucky

that there were 2 RH hitters back to back, because other than Chris Duncan, Galaragga isn’t fooling any right-brainers.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I love this strike zone

Dan: “That’s a strike.”

Not a strike, sorry.

by mojowo11 on Jun 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

No

That’s why it’s not in quotes.

He didn’t correct himself, though. I guess he figured there was no point.

by mojowo11 on Jun 25, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn..

Alright Skippy pick him up.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

delay

they better resume play, dammit. hopefully they can get a good inning from lohse first. detroit seems to be totally out of it.

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

delay?

They are still playing?

by Evilfrog on Jun 25, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHA? DELAY?

Just wanted to be the third person to say it.

by mojowo11 on Jun 25, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game will get played

radar looks like it won’t last long: map

by enoscountry on Jun 25, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

8 pitches wasn’t that nice

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was nice

but it doesn’t make that last swing any less ugly

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 25, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

that last pitch was nasty

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 25, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice battle Skippy

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Hope we're not gonna regret

leaving those two guys at third in the last two innings

by gocards62 on Jun 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Raining hard

about ten miles west of the stadium. If they finish this one, it’ll be pretty damn early tomorrow morning.

by MichiganBird on Jun 25, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice clean inning Lohse

Kennedy, don’t forget, you’re playing 1st

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably so giddy from having a job, he forgets where he is! As well he should

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

a couple of those were close., Ok lohse. Just one out

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

lohse's high pitch count

plus the possibility of the game being called early

equals

franklin / springer / mcclellan in the fifth? if the game hasn’t stopped yet?

by adiueordie on Jun 25, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Anybody watching the CWS?

They just showed a replay of one of UGA’s players in the dugout yelling “fuck you bitch” at the HP ump. Note: it wasn’t a live feed, it was a REPLAY. That was awesome.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

was it deserved?

did the ump screw up?

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 25, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Borderline 3rd strike call

It was close, but too close to let go by. He would have had a really tough time doing anything with it, though.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans

by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

they’ve just been hanging around Ozzie Guillen too much

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

My favorite slo-mo replay of the day

A German player yelling “gotta be fuckin shittin me”.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 25, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, sweetness

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 25, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

That’s like Kobe cursing in foreign languages to avoid the tech. That’s awesome.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans

by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

So nice to see the youth of American emulate their heroes.

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

did they show the replay

to show that he said it?

Was he tossed?

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 25, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not tossed

Kinda surprised. Maybe the ump didn’t hear it

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans

by Mr Redbird on Jun 25, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

SCHEISSSSSEE

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 25, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Damnit

Guillen is a Lohse Killer tonight

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

well shit

time to go get some dinner

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 25, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa

He hit the snot out of that ball.

by six on Jun 25, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Kuso mada, kuso

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKI

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 25, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Too many looks at that flat ass fastball

come on lohse, let’s get out of this and see if we can get back into it

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 25, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Get Lohse out of there

the Tigers own him, with those numbers against him, i’m surprised they even let him start today.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 25, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Question - if the game were postponed and replayed on another day, would Albert be eligible?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 25, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Gameday freaking out

What’s happened so far this inning?

by Phizzle on Jun 25, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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