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Pitchers lack of aggression on 2-2 count?

 I feel that Cards' pitchers (Wainer excepted) are not aggressive enough on the 2-2 count which leads to a full count or worse a BB.  Sometimes I see Moina clearly setting up outside the zone on a 2-2, so I wonder if this is Duncan's philosophy vs. the pitchers themselves.   I wanted to compare our pitchers to the rest of the league, but it turns out to be more than I could handle right now.  But I did manage to compile some data on the Cards' pitchers.  (BTW, thanks to houstoncardinal and astrostl pointing me to data at baseball-reference).  The data is a bit old (by a few days).

Pitcher G PA AB R H HR BB BA OPS BAbip NE/2-2 BB/2-2 OBP
Wainer 13 58 54 3 8 0 4 0.148 0.429 0.267 32.76 7.41 0.207
Looper 14 88 79 8 20 1 8 0.253 0.684 0.275 30.68 10.13 0.33
Lohse 15 88 76 2 16 0 11 0.211 0.557 0.271 39.77 14.47 0.307
Colonel 14 77 68 4 14 2 9 0.206 0.666 0.273 36.36 13.24 0.299
Villone 19 36 29 4 5 1 5 0.172 0.581 0.286 47.22 17.24 0.306
Flores 14 22 17 7 6 1 4 0.353 1.147 0.556 36.36 23.53 0.5
Izzy 13 20 14 3 4 0 5 0.286 0.807 0.364 45.00 35.71 0.45
Franklin 17 23 20 3 3 1 2 0.15 0.611 0.167 39.13 10.00 0.261
McCle. 21 35 32 1 4 0 2 0.125 0.325 0.2 34.29 6.25 0.2
Springer 16 21 19 1 4 0 2 0.211 0.602 0.333 42.86 10.53 0.286
Perez 7 12 12 0 1 0 0 0.083 0.167 0.125 25.00 0.00 0.083

All the columns are standard except for NE/2-2 and BB/2-2.  NE/2-2 is the percent of time when the at-bat did not end after the 2-2 pitch.  I computed it by subtracting the "after 2-2 count" with the "2-2 count" at bats.  And BB/2-2 is the number of BBs after reaching a 2-2 count. 

My thoughts:

1.  My personal impressions on lack of aggression is probably wrong.  As a fan, I get so frustrated seeing a BB after a 2-2.  I think those moments stick with me more often than other cases when the hitter gets out. I thought that the percentage was over 50%, but I was wrong.

2. OBP of 0.5 and 0.45 for Flores and Izzy are disturbing. I think Izzy's fixed now.  But TLR is still very supportive of Flores.  What bothers me about Flores is that he gives away bases.  I'd rather see him give up single dingers consecutively than walking a few and then give up a big one.  I liked Looper's approach last night where he gave up a few single dingers and was aggressive.

3. Villone, Flores, and Izzy have the highest NE/2-2 (47 36 and 45%).  I think this data somewhat supports my frustration that they throw away the 2-2 pitch.  I wish they would not waste a pitch when many hitters are not chasing. 

What are your thoughts?

 

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