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Off Day Miscellany

Morning. Lboros and I are switching days this week, so Happy Monday!

Yesterday morning,as I was considering the day ahead, I perchanced to look at the matchup in the baseball game of the day. And what did I see? I saw Joel Pineiro, who despite his successes in the Cardinal uniform fails to inspire feelings of confidence in me, going up a against his old team, the Boston Red Sox. I saw Jon Lester, who just happens to be as close to a shutdown lefty as you're going to find in the game at the moment, pitching for the Sawx. I saw an angry, pent up team, ready to rain some destruction upon the fragile skulls and fragile egos of our boys in red as revenge for the ambush that the Cardinals had sprung in the first two games of the series. I saw a Cardinal offense that, despite the explosion of Saturday night, has struggled to score runs in the absence of their anchor. In short, I saw a game that didn't look all that promising. And that led me to make a rather fateful decision, as it turns out.

I didn't watch the game.

That's right, friends. I didn't watch the baseball game yesterday. I set my DVR to record it, and I went out antique shopping for the day. Unfortunately, on this particular day, the Cardinals apparently decided to play possibly the greatest single game of the entire season. And I didn't see a single, solitary minute of it.

Don't take me wrong; it wasn't a complete loss by any means. I did come up with a really gorgeous cut crystal decanter that I plan on filling with Scotch just as soon as possible, some really beautiful silverware that originally came from a Louisville hotel in the early 20s. On the baseball front, though, not so good. Of course, due to another miracle of modern technology, (my cell phone) I ended up following the game and was already aware of how it ended, thus essentially turning the idea of trying to watch the greatest game of the year into something very similar to watching The Sixth Sense after you know the twist. The best you can possibly expect to do is follow the tiny little clues that lead up to the end, but really, the whole thing's just ruined.

And so, what can I possibly say about the game? Hell, what can I say about the series, for that matter? The Cardinals come off playing the most pathetic, lifeless, just plain bad baseball you can imagine, getting swept by the Kansas City Royals, then go into Boston to play, quite possibly, the best team in the game, and play them to a series win and a heart stopping, extra inning contest in the finale. I have no idea what the hell this team was doing against KC; I just don't see how you can possibly be so good against the top of the league and so bad against the bottom. I gots to tell you, it's a little frustrating.

The one thing I was really a little concerned with was the Chris Perez meltdown we saw in the eighth inning. We haven't seen that before from Perez; even when he has struggled, it's been fairly mild. This, though, this is what we were afraid of from Chris. We saw this every so often in his minor league career; games when Perez would just find himself unable to find the plate. Sadly, the walks tend to come in bunches for Perez. When his control goes bad, it goes almost completely south. Really, it's the only thing that can possibly stand between the kid and being a top flight closer; the truly elite closers don't lose it like that. They may allow a baserunner or two, but the don't walk three hitters in a row after getting two outs in the inning.

Congratulations to Mr. Nick Stavinoha, who becomes the ninth Cardinal player to make his ML debut this year. He seems to have a nice swing and a bit of an idea at the plate; we could certainly do worse than to have him DHing for the next six games. In fact, I have a really hard time understanding why this move wasn't made before. There is no excuse, and I mean absolutely none, to ever see Adam Kennedy as the Designated Hitter as we all did on Saturday. I'm sorry, that's just bad roster management.

A few things:

R.I.P. Mr. George Carlin. I was never a huge fan of Carlin's work, to be perfectly frank. The influence of the man, though, cannot be denied. He was a giant in the comedy world for well over fifty years. The world is a little less funny this morning.

Jess Todd, the Cards' wunderkind, had his first bad game of the year last night, giving up 5 runs in as many innings. Kid'll never be anything with numbers like that. I want that ERA back down below 1.50, and I want it now!

I saw the greatest movie over the weekend, and I want you all to run out and find it right now. If you can't find it, demand that someone get it for you. It is called "Flesh for Frankenstein", and it will rock you. Andy Warhol was one of the producers, and it's every bit as brilliant as, well, hmm. Never mind, there's nothing worth comparing this movie to. It's that damned good. You'll never see a better Sci Fi/ horror/ comedy/ love story/ excuse to drop LSD. If you love zombies doing it, (and if you're anything like me, you rarely think of anything else) then this is the film for you. Do yourself a favour and don't miss out on one of the true classics of American cinema. The author of this piece takes no responsibility for anyone inadvertently exposed to awful, awful things by viewing of the film in question.

Below this post, Azruavatar has a quick writeup of some of his own thoughts following the Boston series. Check it out.

Have a nice off day, everybody. Next come El Tigres, and they are, unfortunately, looking more and more like the team we all thought they were. Just in time.

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Blackout

You didn’t see yesterday’s game; many of us out-of-towners with FSN-Midwest will miss the next three, with Detroit. They are on the blackout list. As are next week’s Mets games.

Carlin’s baseball v. football bit was funny.

by Youneverknow on Jun 23, 2008 12:46 PM EDT   0 recs

wow.

That’s just unfathomable awful. I’ve never had to deal with the blackout problems, seeing as how I live right here in St. Louis. I’m eternally grateful, too. It seems like just the biggest nightmare imaginable.

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 23, 2008 12:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I still feel lucky

It was not long ago that Des Moines cable baseball was all about the Cubs. When the Cubs games went to Comcast, Mediacom picked up Fox Midwest and I bet you could hear the howls all the way to the state border.

I’m not sure what the blackout is all about. They picked 19 games over the course of the season. At least this year I know the games in advance. Last year I would turn on the TV and be surprised and it would absolutely ruin my evening.

by Youneverknow on Jun 23, 2008 2:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I feel thankful

for getting to see back to back games this weekend.

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No baseball watching for me

this series. I rely on MLB.tv to watch my beloved Cardinals up here in Michigan, but according to El Tigres I should be watching THEM on cable, which I don’t have. So I am blacked out from this series. At least there is Gameday Audio so I won’t be totally in the dark. Added bonus: I can choose between home and away broadcasts and listen to Mike and John if I want to.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 23, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is my life

I’m blacked out from MLB.TV because I live in Little Rock. We get the game feeds on an “extra” channel on cable (FSN Southwest is our dedicated regional channel); but, while I love seeing the games, with $4+ gas, cable was something I decided to cut out. I’ve ordered Gameday Audio since about 2002 and I love it…it’s cheap and Mike Shannon is the best.

by thisgirllovesbaseball on Jun 23, 2008 2:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fun little tidbit for DSM Mediacom subscribers

My mom gets Mediacom cable and was put off when the Royals/Cards games weren’t on, even if it turned out to be a blessing in disguise (um…sweep). So she fired a complaint via email off to Mediacom and got this in response:

Thank you for your concern regarding our St. Louis Cardinal broadcasts on Fox Sports Midwest. Fox Sports Midwest added 20 games to their Cardinals schedule after the start of this baseball season. They asked for an additional charge to show these games after our original agreement. We have decided not to show these additional 20 games over the 110 game package that we originally agreed to rather than passing on this additional cost to our customers. We will forward your comments and concern to our marketing department. Additional baseball programming is shown on ESPN, ESPN2, TBS, WGN, and the national FOX network.

How much can 20 games cost?

by bgh on Jun 23, 2008 3:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I love that

Like when has a cable company not liked passing on a fee to subscribers? F-in mediacom.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 23, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Turns out...

About $1 per subscriber in the viewing area…that turns out to be around $1.5 million or so.

While that doesn’t seem like a lot, consider that customers pay around $1.50 per sub for the FSN Midwest channel the entire rest of the year (not to mention that FSN channels are purchased using a tiered agreement at the corporate level). Charging an additional $1 per subscriber for 20 games amounts to highway robbery.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jun 24, 2008 10:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Also...

Mediacom would have carried those games in the Mediacom Connections channel, but it was blacked out in the viewing area by MLB because we fall in the KC Royals blackout area.

These blackout deals are so fucking dated that it’s sometimes impossible for carriers to even navigate to get the programming their subscribers want.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jun 24, 2008 10:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

I listen to most games on gameday audio too

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2008 4:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: George Carlin

It seems that most in our age group (mid/late 20’s) don’t find Carlin all that funny, but respect the hell out of his influence on other comics. I think that the work he (and Bruce) did tearing down the obscene barrier walls meant that by the time the next generation of comic fans came around, their stuff was no longer fresh/shocking at all and seemed kind of hack and dated at times, in a Andre Dice Clay way.

Also, his football/baseball bit may be my least favorite famous comedy bit of all time.

Loved him in Bill and Ted’s though!

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Jun 23, 2008 12:53 PM EDT   0 recs

And "tits" doesn't even belong on the list!!!

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jun 23, 2008 3:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

one of the best bits ever

i was a big fan of carlin, prolly only second on my personal favorite list after richard pryor

Pujols is the greatest Cardinal in my lifetime.

by bigcardsfan5 on Jun 24, 2008 12:22 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Early 30s here

and while most would consider me to be at the other end of the spectrum from George Carlin, I’ve always found him to be downright hilarious and often agreed with him more than I didn’t for unknown reasons. Just adds to my own complexity, and i thank people like George Carlin for making me think.

Rest in Peace my good man. We have truly lost a great thinker.

by Tackle Box on Jun 23, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Early seventies here

and I never agreed with anything George Carlin said; never thought him funny: never could watch him for over a couple minutes without being annoyed. Just shows how people differ I guess…never wished him dead though.

by ridgesee on Jun 23, 2008 3:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I thought he was pretty goddamned funny

for the most part. although he sort of ripped off Bill Hicks at times (who doesn’t?). RIP, George

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2008 4:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

um

I think you have that backwards actually—Hicks was an edgier Carlin. In fact, Hicks listed Carlin as one of his idols.

You want to see a Bill Hicks rip-off? Look at Denis Leary’s entire stand-up career….

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jun 24, 2008 10:39 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Carlin in my eyes was nothing short of brilliance.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 23, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pitching matchups with Detroit

We’re missing Verlander, which is a HUGE relief. We’re facing off against:

Kenny Rogers (5-4, 4.36)
Armando Galarraga (7-2, 3.03)
Nate Robertson (6-6, 5.60)

While we’re sending out Looper, Lohse, Wellemeyer

I like the matchups

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 23, 2008 1:31 PM EDT   0 recs

has verlander gotten it back on track this year?

If you are in St. Louis check out my band, Griffin and the Gargoyles
(formerly Gargoyle Reign, Gargoyle Lounge)

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

:-D

by jealousblues on Jun 23, 2008 1:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

His last 8 starts

3-3
53.1 IP
42 H
20 BB
42 K
16 ER

2.70 ERA
.213/.289/.305/.594 against
1.16 WHIP

I’d say so. But Galarraga is nothing to sneeze at, either. 138 ERA+, 1.065 WHIP, we’ll need to have the bats on fire and K-Lo pitch a gem to take that one…

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 23, 2008 1:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rewind 6 to 8 months and see how ridiculous

that last sentence sounds. Amazing isn’t it?

by Tackle Box on Jun 23, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hope we see the May version of Welley

Along with the last two games version of Looper and the first few weeks of the season version of Lohse

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 23, 2008 3:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What was wrong

with the last two starts version of Lohse that you would rather see the early season version?

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 23, 2008 3:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nothing

But as Evilfrog pointed out, 0 ER in his first 17 IP is pretty incredible. I’ll take that any day of the week!

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans

by Mr Redbird on Jun 23, 2008 3:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok

That makes sense, but except for the two games he has lost (against the Cubs, 8 runs on 9 hits, and the Rox, 7 runs on 8 hits) Kyle has been good every time out. Guess I am just saying that he gives us a pretty good chance of winning every time he takes the ball.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 23, 2008 4:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lohse

Considering Lohse has given up three or fewer earned runs in each of his last seven starts (two ER in six of those seven games), I’ll take the present version myself.

by bgh on Jun 23, 2008 3:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i like the present verison

But the beginning season version where he gave up 0 runs in his first 17 innings would be better.

by Evilfrog on Jun 23, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

matchups

Rogers will give the Cards trouble—soft throwing lefties who can locate the ball seem to give the Cardinals fits. Robertson pretty much fits this mold as well, and Galarraga has been pretty damn good this season.

If we’re talking matchups, you have to like their offense against our pitchers vs. our offense and their pitchers, on paper anyway. But you could have said the same thing about Boston before Dice-K got shelled. As they say, that’s baseball…

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jun 23, 2008 3:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That just atomic balm

You know, to ward off the chills at night. Or during the day. Gets cold sometimes in Detroit in June.

by Red in Chicago on Jun 23, 2008 3:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it's a revenge game for us, though

evident the wash!

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jun 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

someday

i’ll figure out what “evident the wash” means…

by mattybobo on Jun 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

make sure you don't

Load up all the clothes on one side of the washing machine. Because if you do it will be uneven and cause the washing machine to shake and kinda walk.

by Evilfrog on Jun 23, 2008 4:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it came from here:

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/comments/2006/10/22/233021/36/60#1296237

If anyone goes to the game on Tuesday, they need to bring a sign that says that.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jun 23, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

it reads like somebody in japan was using google translator or something...

very funny though. on halloween that year, a very cute girl about 10-12 years old came up to my parents house in a costume, and when i asked her for a joke, she said “what’s black and white and brown all over? kenny rogers, the cheater.” best joke of the night.

by mattybobo on Jun 23, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

and thanks guys for cluing me in

i kind of vaguely remember it now that i’ve seen the original context again, but that VEB inside joke has puzzled me for months.

by mattybobo on Jun 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

country hardball = no helmet?

Because a beanball would go a long way towards explaining some of his comments. My brain still hasn’t recovered from one these

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 23, 2008 6:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

now that was uncalled for

I apologize

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 23, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Perez

You know what I did like about the Perez inning was the way he did not completely go to shit and give up 3 runs or anything like that. He was able to come back and strik out Yuklis (SP)? who is a tough out….

We had all seen based on futureredbirds coverage that Perez can be wild at times.

I thought Perez handled the situation well and did not make things worse which was a great sign.

by ICbirdfan on Jun 23, 2008 1:39 PM EDT   0 recs

I agree

Perez hung in there, even when the pressure seemed to be building.
The TV guys loudly wondered why LaRue (or even Yadi, who was playing first base at the time) didn’t go to the mound and try to ‘calm him down.’ I guess they got ME wondering, too, because their talk, and the situation, got my spine stiff. But I concluded that LaRue and Molina know Perez well enough to conclude either a) it wouldn’t help any, or b) even be counter-productive. (neither catcher seems bashful, to me)
The TV camera DID show Duncan (Dave) imitating deep breaths out to his protege, while LaRussa looked grim. Of course neither of them could go to the mound, or Perez would have had to be removed.

by the Tewk on Jun 24, 2008 1:04 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

aw crap

I cant resist a zombie movie…

Now im gonig to have to search for this thing, and im sure its going to be impossible to find.

on a side note, off days suck

If you are in St. Louis check out my band, Griffin and the Gargoyles
(formerly Gargoyle Reign, Gargoyle Lounge)

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

:-D

by jealousblues on Jun 23, 2008 1:50 PM EDT   0 recs

agreed

Off days suck. At least for fans.

For a team that used all thier relievers in a lost the night before. Offdays are alright.

by Evilfrog on Jun 23, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

anybody see that one stretch in August?

Cards are off Monday AND Thursday two weeks in a row. 4 out of 10 days off. How awful

At least he's better than Esteban Yan.

by jacksonian on Jun 23, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We'll see if that holds up

Might have to push some rain-postponed games into those slots before it’s all said and done. It will be a treat for the team, as well.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 23, 2008 3:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Out of curiosity

know how many games we still need to make up? Can’t be many considering we have played 77 games with only a few teams having played that much and Boston playing more (78). Btw, only the Reds have played as many games as the Cardinals so far with the cubs Astros and Pirates playing 76, and the Brewers playing 75.

by Tackle Box on Jun 23, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We don't have

any make-ups, do we? The only two games that were rained out were made up the next day. Opening day against the Rox was played on the next day, which was originally an off day, and the rain-out vs. the Nats became a day-night double header the next day. Am I missing any?

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We don't have any yet

But I’m just saying that off-days late in the season many times don’t turn out to be off-days after mother nature intervenes.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans

by Mr Redbird on Jun 23, 2008 3:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gotcha

Thankfully we’ve made it though the most difficult part of the season weather-wise (i.e., the spring)

by Tackle Box on Jun 23, 2008 4:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

I’m going to have to check out that zombie flick. sounds like a good one!

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2008 4:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Perez: Throw strikes, kid

Yesterday’s meltdown by Perez reminded me of a game I attended earlier this month here in D.C. - the first game of that day-night double-header with the Nationals to make up the rain-out the night before. Tony brought Perez to pitch the 8th inning w/the Cards up 4-0; he got Aaron Boone to ground out and then walked two of the next three batters before TLR yanked him - only threw 7 strikes in 17 pitches. Just couldn’t find the strike zone, even facing the pathetic line-up the Nats fielded that day. I love Perez’s stuff, but he definitely needs to get these control problems solved before we automatically anoint him the closer for 2009.

by DCRedbird on Jun 23, 2008 1:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Perez

Generally agreed with the sentiments in the post – we saw something very similar in the KC series. He’s a bit more fragile than he needs to be. His walk rate is still terrible, and will need to improve if he’s going to be a top reliever in the big leagues. DCRedbird is right – although, of course, the closer spot isn’t always getting the biggest outs. I think Sunday’s game is just further evidence in support of Kyle McClellan getting the biggest outs down the stretch and in the postseason if we’re so fortunate.

by alasbabylon on Jun 23, 2008 1:58 PM EDT   0 recs

that was my only reservation about bringing up Perez

sounded like he needed a little more time to work on that wild side of his pitching. has he had control problems throughout his career?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2008 4:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He has been wild traditionally, but had settled down in Memphis this year.

For the most part, his slider has become nonexistent since coming up to the ML. That’s my chief concern. Sure players have a hard time hitting his fastball, but if it’s not locating I would like to see him pull in that kickass slider of his and try and induce some chasing.

The slider should keep batters honest when he grooves a fastball as well. He needs to use it more.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 23, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

old crystal

If its lead crystal, I wouldn’t keep alcohol in it that I was going to drink. The alcohol draws the lead out.

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2008 2:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Mulder to start Saturday...

Against the Royals. I have to say I don’t get it, shouldn’t we try to get him through ONE outing in AAA where he doesn’t get drilled before we put him in a game that counts?

by mikedallas45 on Jun 23, 2008 3:04 PM EDT   0 recs

Mulder *may* start
The Cardinals are projecting lefthander Mark Mulder for a start in next weekend’s series against the Kansas City Royals, pending a successful “light” outing tonight with Class AAA Memphis.

The story from the P-D would tend to suggest that the plan is to get him through one outing in AAA in which he doesn’t get shelled before bringing him up to St. Louis.

by bgh on Jun 23, 2008 3:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugh

Yikes. I would advocate more than ONE outing in AAA where he doesn’t get drilled before bringing him up. What’s the hurry with Mulder? I don’t see how he’s going to eat innings any better than Boggs at this point.

by IsThisHeaven on Jun 23, 2008 3:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

His 30 days are almost up

That’s the hurry

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 23, 2008 3:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, worst case

is that he becomes a left-handed McClellan-type option in the bullpen. Minus the ability to get batters out, probably.

by Red in Chicago on Jun 23, 2008 3:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

worst case scenario

is he replaces Flores. That is a good worst case scenario

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 23, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

shouldn't be

at least, not if his second rehab stint didn’t start until June 14th, right?

That would give him time for 4 more starts, at least.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jun 23, 2008 4:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh ok

I saw the news on Clement in the Rotoworld bar and I guess I got them confused. Did the 30 days start over for Mulder or did he pick up where he left off?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans

by Mr Redbird on Jun 23, 2008 4:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

good question

you know, I heard “second rehab stint” and assumed it started over, but if it didn’t, that might explain the rush.

"If thats bad luck, lets DFA our luck away." -DriverZN

by SleepyCA on Jun 23, 2008 4:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

unless something has changed in recent times

a DL resets the 30 day rehab

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 23, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bullpen

I really don’t think his first game should be a start. Let’s go LOOGY with him for a while, build strength, build confidence. Go a little long relief, then maybe a start.

I know that the organization is unconvinced of his ability to start, to put in nicely, as are most of us. So why have the guy start?

by lightbulb on Jun 23, 2008 8:06 PM EDT