Game 77 overflow III

indeed, but take out the philly game where clearly he ended up being a sacrificial lamb (on the back of Parisi’s start no less) and it shaves almost 2 runs off that great old era

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 22, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

ok

get rid of the Colorado game in May where Parisi cleaned up Lohse’s mess for three innings

we can play this game all night :)

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by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 22, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up 0 recs

stats win it all it seems when you ignore the starting stats

as clearly he just shown?

starts don’t negate IP, especially when he’s never been classed a reliever (as far as I know).

nonetheless, no dramas now

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 22, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up 0 recs

what stats are you guys comparing anyway?

FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG

by astrostl on Jun 22, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up 0 recs

classed?

not really sure what that means, but I’m pretty sure that when he comes into a game later than the first pitch, he’s a reliever

IMO, it’s a shame they keep Brad Thompson-ing him, because I think he can be effective if you just tell him what the hell his role is

is he a starter or a reliever? if he’s a starter and not in the rotation, leave his ass in Memphis – if he’s good enough to be a reliever with the big club, then don’t make him start

either way – tough way to lose

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by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 22, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

classed = I think he’s always been a starter and he comes up in a true bullpen situation if there is one. besides with the club I don’t think he’s ever pitched in relief (though I’m sure I’m probably wrong).

was speaking from the gut on the stats, didn’t look anything up and yeah Parisi on the stats as a reliever has been better than villone. scraping by on a few areas, but better.

but what I was saying is that we’re dismissing his starting innings just because he pitched in the first and not in the long role he was coming up here for.

either way, not good for the kid. but then again we had several chances to win this game, and chanced loss quite a few times

agreed on the role comment

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 22, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

this is why

I don’t want to see the “McClellan considered for a start” BS

the kid is currently good at what he does – stop f**king with your bullpen guys who are actually getting the job done

Parisi is back to Memphis as soon as someone is eligible to take his roster spot coming off the DL (maybe sooner) – hopefully they will straighten him out, but he may not be longed for MLB

his story seems eerily similar to Reyes for me, he pretty much dominated two starts in Memphis during his time down there between big league appearances

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by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Jun 22, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

agreed

highly actually, and if you search my past starts I’ve done a fair share of noting those starts (CG and 7 inning gem).

I’d say it’s closer to a true Thompson role than anything as he’s getting used for whatever the club wants and put out of sorts as he’s doing it.

Thompson is actually pretty good at it, Parisi may not have the mental aptitude to handle it.

and one thing you’ll never see from me, voting K-Mac as a starter. setup guy? anyday. trouble spot guy? if springer isn’t avail. closer? not for a while.

if we need to win it in the 7th, we win it there and K-Mac having the ability to roam innings is a very good thing

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 22, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up 0 recs