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Time to Be Like Mo

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Well it's june now and the draft has got a grip on most folk’s attention, i.e., on ESPN and all that they (MLB) are trying to make it.  For Mo though, no trading draft picks for current players is allowed, so the focus is no doubt  moving to the trade deadline, which is just starting to loom on the horizon.  In light of the fact that many VEBs live outside of St. Louis and follow other teams as well as the Cards, thought it might be interesting to do what Mo has to do:  look at every other MLB team and evaluate if some deal might be done that would benefit the cards.  benefit is a loaded word, of course, with a meaning that depends on the time frame the benefit kicks in.  so, a challenge to community to pick a team and the best, most likely trade Mo could swing-and why.  This may be a little premature, but when you consider the magnitude of the task, never too soon  to look at what the front office  must be doing continually.  I'll volunteer a proposal for a mutually beneficial cards-marlins swap to get started.

The marlins situation is deteriorating in the standings and they have several potential salary problems looming.  they have indicated publicly that they can't afford to/aren't willing to sign any more long-term at this point (hanley is done).  i'm not buying this line completely, but i do believe some are likely to be left out (and this is in part their way of soliciting proposals).  of these, uggla is clearly the guy that would benefit the cards the most at first glance (note: he is basically the ludwick of their team though, bats right and has trouble with lefties and is having a career year slugging).  that combined with the competition for him that is likely to unfold, i'd prefer to discus hermida (pretty much same service time as uggla).  

where is the weak link from the marlins perspective?  conventional wisdom (i.e., other blogs and columns) says on the mound, i.e., number one starter is hendrikson.  others have more potential (e.g., olsen), but they aren't there yet.  so, this is a fair appraisal.  they have guys who can hit and some who can field too, but don't have one in every spot, center field being one place.  if they feel maybin is ready, then that may cover the problem, but neither ross or amezaga is cutting it (they signed jones after all).  cantu and helms  at the corner is also not encouraging from a productivity perspective.  in fact, contrary to the conventional wisdom, they need some bats.  for example, no marlin regular has a ba >.300.   if they are serious about contending now and for the next few years (debatable i agree), what they really need are major league players they can use to remain competitive and can afford for a few years until new stadium revenues kick-in.  i suspect most VEBers would go after uggla pretty aggresively, but so may many other teams and it may cost the cards too much.  what i would do, therefore, is offer a package for hermida, with the idea that we include (actually insist) that they accept at least one outfielder.  hermida is a  young and steadily improving player who hits lefties.  luwick/duncan (hopefully recovers)-ankiel-hermida would be our outfield for the rest of the year, with mather as the new spiezio for now.   rasmus is likely (high probability) to be our center fielder of the future more so than rick, who we may not be able to retain (unfortunately) based real concern for the boras factor.  hence, this swap seems a good deal for both.

hermida = reyes, barton,  thompson

saving the mi problem for others 


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I don't think the Cards can deal Barton

being a Rule V. Pretty sure they’d have to trade with the Tribe to keep him on the team. Can anybody reassure/corrrect this?

Miles in '08

by Zoop on Jun 2, 2008 12:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't cite anything off the top of my head

but yes, you are correct.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 2, 2008 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and with that said,

I’d take any of our outfielders over Hermida. They can keep him. He’s a twig—about as injury prone as they come.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 2, 2008 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hermida

is a stud. I would rather have Hermida instead of both Duncan and Schumaker.

by KeepOnRolen on Jun 2, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They can trade Barton

but the Rule V restrictions follow him to his destination.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jun 2, 2008 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wonder if

Stanihova has any value for Cards or as a trading chip?

by akaitori on Jun 2, 2008 7:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitching is needed

Hermida is just a guy. His numbers are a statistical improvement over what is on the roster right now, but I don’t see him as a huge difference maker.

What is needed these days (and everywhere else) is pitching. And pitching. And more pitching. With Piniero injured, with Carpenter no where in sight, with Mulder a has-been and Clement a Cardinal never-was, the rotation is beginning to disolve. Starting pitching will carry this team or bury this team, and starting pitching is what is needed.

I don’t know who will work out, but the Cardinals have many trade pieces to work with: Schumaker, Duncan, Reyes, Thompson, Barton, Ryan, Kennedy (eat the contract), Miles… some sort of combo package to trim the roster and make the rotation stronger.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by palampe on Jun 2, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Stanihova?

Stavinoha. mavbe. I see Duncan finally has a batting Average in AAA. Got a double last night.. would like to see him come around

by ridgesee on Jun 2, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Order a uni, XXL

David Wells, anyone?

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by palampe on Jun 2, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marlins trades?

Umm…have the Marlins been actively shopping Uggla? I think everyone assumes he’s available because its the Marlins, but the fact is,the Marlins are in the playoff hunt (as of now). They aren’t going to be sellers unless they drop-off BIG TIME. Until then I think we call all put the thought of Uggla coming to the Cards for some chumps to rest. It would be nice though. Roberts is definately the more realistic option. Grudzielanek could also be had. Since the tigers don’t seem to be turning it around do you think they’d be willing to part with Polanco? I know one big guy who’d lobby that trade….....

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 3, 2008 2:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps time to pick over the carcass of the Seattle Mariners....

On second thought, no…...Miguel Cairo is probably available.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Jun 3, 2008 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

slightly off topic

but appearently the Dodgers AAA team are trying Andy Laroche out at 2B

hint hint

http://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=350150

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7928/news

Jun 3 Updating a previous report, Dylan Hernandez, of the Los Angeles Times, reports Los Angeles Dodgers 3B Andy LaRoche played his last two games with Triple-A Las Vegas at second base. He made it through both games without an error and turned a double play Saturday, May 31.

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by jealousblues on Jun 4, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, that makes sense for the Dodgers....

With Blake DeWitt’s emergence at 3rd, it seems like a way to keep them both around. Or maybe they can trade him, but Jeff Kent is about finished.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Jun 4, 2008 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

brewing trouble

bill hall at second for cards?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jun 4, 2008 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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