Game 74 overflow
by lboros on Jun 19, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jun 19, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It's like I can be proud of our pitching
and angered at our pitching at the same time.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
common
Thast a common feeling toward our pitching staff.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jun 19, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I do too
but, its not hard to feel both sides of the spectrum
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jun 19, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, you know
Flores can kiss my backside. I can like him because he threw us a ball at a game earlier this year (alteast, I think it was to us. He aimed 30 feet left of us and it ended up coming back to us) but when people are on base, he can’t find the strikezone, when he comes in clean, he dominates.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
Too bad he wasted his annual HR
in a 10-0 game
by Andyfantastic on Jun 19, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I was actually just looking at his stats
And his BA is better than the previous two seasons. I can’t believe he’s still in the majors
If this series doesn't clearly indicate...
...that Pujols IS BY FAR AND AWAY the most valuable player this league…I don’t know what would.
Bleh. Game keeps getting interupted on the radio
b/c a tornado is on the ground. Damn twister has terrible timing!
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
Or perfect timing
Do you really want to listen to the rest of this?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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Touche
Perspective, Mr Redbird…Perspective…
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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I got caught in this on the road....
It was fucked up.
by mynameistyler on Jun 19, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Now, Tony comes up with the big weapon off of the bench
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
who else do we have?
this is sad.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jun 19, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm
Veteran or Rookie?
TLR says, “Easy like Sunday morning”
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jun 19, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
at least it wasnt
AK6-4-3
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jun 19, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
unless he's pinch hitting
in the 2 hole
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
No, they wipe their brows
and say, “Thank god it’s not Looper!”
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
Can't spell Kennedy
Without a K
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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How can he justify using Kennedy
when Ryan is still available?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
good question
very good question…
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry
Miles will get a base hit next inning and Ludwick and Ankiel will do nothing with it.
Hope I’m wrong but it feels like I’ve seen this movie before.
Different verse
Same as the first
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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Maybe it isn't so surprising that we are about to be swept
Look at the Royals lineup, and then look at ours.
I’d say they have a decent advantage at about 6 of the 8 positions.
boo cubs, hooray beer
actually, make that 7 of 8
Dejesus is having a better year offensively than Rick
boo cubs, hooray beer
especially if Glaus, Ludwick, and Ankiel
are all in some kind of funk
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
now we have to sweep them at home
even though we should have swept both
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Blaine. Take those letters mix them around, and what do you get?
Nebali… the name of a planet in a galaxy far, far, FAR away.
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
we were in first for more than a day
earlier in the season
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd think that
after like 8 fastballs fouled off he’d throw a slider? but i’m not watching so don’t know what he looks like today…
Dude.
I’m TiVoing the game. I cannot believe you just wrote that.
by Youneverknow on Jun 19, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If I had been on earlier
I certainly would have.
What’s done is done.
by Youneverknow on Jun 19, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
If I had any idea anyone on here gave a shit, I wouldnt’ have done it. Just thought it was a more interesting game than the one the rest of us are watching.
Don't worry about it
It still sounds like a great game to watch.
There have been some very good games in that tournament. I’m hoping Netherlands and Spain keep scoring and stick around for another round.
by Youneverknow on Jun 19, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah shit
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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Wow, the backend of our bullpen
if awful at this point.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
woohoo!!!
way to go cardinals!! oh wait, that ’s the royals scoring more runs off of our bullpen. shocking…
Game Set Match
All we’ve got on this team right now is some starting pitching that sets us up for excruciating losses. Perfect timing for my first trip to Fenway!
Enjoy the trip DesiBird
Went to my first series there when the Cards played there in 04….AWESOME time….You’ll love it.
Apparently Suckiness is a disease that is spreading rampantly down in our bullpen
Even Perez has it.
boo cubs, hooray beer
ah crap
at least he has the rookie excuse
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm turning this shit off and running out into the tornado
I can’t take it anymore.
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
who gave up the homer?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
perez
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jun 19, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I am no longer going to fault Tony for any bullpen decision
He officially has no good options.
by Andyfantastic on Jun 19, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
"He's Mr. Short Term
Memorrrrrreeeeeeee…....”
by Andyfantastic on Jun 19, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
you know better than that Liam
2.1 innings from a reliever with no runs allowed is good?*
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Atleast things get easier in Boston and Detroit guys! Hah!
we may see our first double digit losing streak of the year.
boo cubs, hooray beer
You have to believe the Cardinals will stop playing cutesy
with the roster and actually flesh out the bench with talented offensive players.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
No man alive
is as consistently pessimistic as you. You’ve got a stormcloud over your head, my friend.
heh
he’s goth/emo
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It's funny that you say that
You only pay attention to my posts because I was singled out by lboros. But if you read through these game threads when things go south, you’ll find 10 other people as equally as pessimistic as me.
boo cubs, hooray beer
if not more, and your comment was valid and actual reality.
The Brew are right on our heels, we’re looking at third being a real possibility in 3-4 days
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 19, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
try every game thread
when the team is losing. this place turns into doom and gloom central. Listen, i’m not saying you are wrong about me having a pessimistic streak when it comes to this team, but you’re blind if you think i’m the only one or even the worst one.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Missed the one when you were called out
But your pessimism doesn’t only rear up when the team is losing, the constant dreariness gets real old.
Not that I have any business telling you how to represent yourself in the comments of a blog. Do as you wish, for all I care.
The only thing that can make today worse
would be if Mulder goes out and gets shelled tonight for Memphis.
Please Mark, dazzle us with your new oil can motion!
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
this is ridiculous. getting swept by the Royals! wtf
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought oil can boyd threw way over the top
Not down low.
People say, You must have been the class clown.
And I say, No, I wasn’t. But I sat next to the class clown, and I studied him.
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
And this is an official Remains of the Day lunch box
by Andyfantastic on Jun 19, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a saying in Missouri, if you don't like the weather just wait five minutes.
In Blaine, with hard work, I think we can get that down to three or four minutes.
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
We're bi-coastal
If you consider the Mississippi River one of the coasts
by Andyfantastic on Jun 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Joakim Soria
I would have thought Soria would take a day off regardless of the save situation, yet Hillman brings him in. Is that unusual, or would you typically pitch your closer three days in a row if the situation called for it?
Chris Perez
he’s had a couple rough outings, but his stuff is as good as Soria and Marmol
boo cubs, hooray beer
I agree
let’s see how good Perez looks once has as much time in the majors as Soria and Marmol. i think he is going to look great.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
And gave up 4 ER tonight
This must be the dead-arm week for young, lights-out relievers.
May it not spill into the next.
Then you didn't watch him pitch
he was anything but “dead”. He was electric, only he couldn’t control it which happens from time to time with him. Big difference.
so does Perez, when he is on.
You have not seen the best Perez has to offer, trust me.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Duncan is killing us
I know the offense is putrid in general but you have to be able to put some player at 1b who can hit better than 230 with no power.
Really?
Last year, in 157 at bats, he hit .305 with 7 hrs, .399 obp, .503 slg, .902 ops., 135 ops+
Just throwing that out there.
do you think albert pujols would have created four (4) runs today? the TEAM lost.
FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG
Yes.
I never doubt Albert’s ability to create runs, take walks, force hitters in front of him to see the occasional fastball they normally wouldn’t.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Joakim Soria is a Rule 5 pick up. The Royals got him last year
From the Dodgers. For monopoly money. Does that make the Dodgers stupid or the Royals smart?
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Um, I would think you find a spot for someone like him.....probably tried to sneak him through
like the Astros tried to do with Johan…...Dodgers probably hoped no one would find him in the dark of night.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Ugh
painful.
Though, this is basically how I thought the season was going to be back in March
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
I'm glad that series of suck is over
Bring on the Red Sox!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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Vaccines work by infecting you with a weakened version of what you're trying to fend off
So let’s consider this our suckiness vaccine. We injected ourselves with a mild form of suckiness so we can rock for the rest of the series. Right?! Right?!
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
Thank you sir. We're finally starting to play some decent ball. And you all will too as soon as the other half of your team gets off the DL.
by Royal2103 on Jun 19, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your positive attitude about the Cardinals
confuses us here at VEB
by Andyfantastic on Jun 19, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I still want to see how he reacts when he is closing meaningful games (which could very well happen if the Royals keep playing good ball). But his stuff is pretty nasty, and i’d say he is one of the top 3 closers in the game right now.
boo cubs, hooray beer
I checked in at Royals game thread last night......
Someone said, ........”Well, if Tony’s going to bat the pitcher 8th, he should bat him seventh when LaRue plays” I thought that was funny and all because LaRue was a Royal, so you know that his hitting is just not acceptable.
Anyway, I like your pitchers Greinke and Mahay.and your outfielders Teahan and Guillen. Any chance we can have them?
Have a nice afternoon…..
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Cmon
people do get better. Grienke has social anxiety disorder. It can be helped.
Kip Wells, now he was a major headcase.
Seriously, you wouldn’t want Grienke in the Cardinals rotation? With his stuff and his youth he has the chance to be great for a very long time.
If the Cards were going to trade for a SP, he is exactly the type I would be thrilled to see them get. You know young, cheap, young, good.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
No, I wouldn't want him
People freak out if somebody has a history of injury, how is this any different? And a brain (psychological) is extremely difficult to fix especially to the extent he was at. Playing in Kansas City is great for him.
Let's agree to check back in 5 years
and see who was right.
Issues that can be dealt with effectively with medication/therapy are much different than injuries to a pitcher’s elbow/shoulder.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
He has been fine for a few years now. He took a 1/2 season off to
deal with the medication aspect of it, and has not had problems on the mound since. It is just a part of who he is-and it hasn’t effected his play at all. No way i would not look at this player because of it. Greinke has the stuff to contend for the Cy Young. He really does.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
I'd take him
social anxiety disorder or not, the kid can pitch… and he’s just 24. He and Soria are really good!
with the potential
to be great! I bet there isn’t a GM out there that wouldn’t salivate at the chance to get either.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
We hate Larue more than almost any player in Baseball...
Our team is young and give them two years we’ll win the central. Bet on that.
Have a nice day as well
Teahan
does a segment on WHB 810 AM every wednesday. I don’t know if he always means to be funny but he sure comes off that way. Glad to see him starting to hit the last week or so, hopefully he can get back to his 2006 form. I say Teahan and Grienke for Skippy , Looper and Duncan. Think the Royals will go for that one?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
They have a GM that actually knows something about talent for a couple of years now.
So, I’d say no. It would have to be a lot more.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Is that 21 victories out of 28 games
in St. Louis for Kansas City? That’s dominance. Especially when guys like Gordon are average MLB-hitters the rest of the season but come to St. Louis and crush the ball all over the yard.
Why does it seem like interleague play is usually the time of year we start losing players to injury? Do we like to embarrass ourself in front of the mutant league?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
First
We have young and average AL hitters… We hop the fence and play the otehr league and turn into beasts because every AL team loves NL pitching… Thank God you have Duncan because you pitched well this whole series…
Alex Gordon has an OPS+ of 106
the very definition of average, but against the Cardinals he turns into Mike Schmidt.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder.....
Think the Pirates could hand STL their Offense….............
Wow the Pirates pitching is awful…............................
i just noticed these two headlines...
• Cardinals drop three in a row to Royals
• Cards’ LaRue starts third straight game
We also have a losing record against the giants. Anywho, bring on the Red Sox!
we really only suck against teams with bad records
so I am thinking we are talking about a serious winning streak now
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
It's the Cardinal way!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate to be the messenger but...
...this looks like the point in the season we’ll look back to and circle as the start of a downward spiral.
Before Royals series: 13 games over .500, just took 2 of 3 from the Phillies, day off and a three game set at home against the Royals ahead
After Royals series: 10 games over .500, just got swept by the Royals, scored 4 runs in 3 games against one of the worst teams in MLB, oif to a three game set on the road against the Red Sox
I apologize for reciting what everyone knows (and probably feels), but this series had just so much of a different vibe than the whole season, and I don’t want it to be contagious.
It looks like a bump in the road now, but when we’re looking back in a month or two and clawing for every victory, we’re going to kick ourselves for this series.
I also think we may be in for a losing streak
But there has been about 5 different occasions this year when people have started to believe “this is the beginning of the end” most notably, after series against the Giants and Pirates. If there is one thing this team has proved that it is, it is resilient. I think we very well may lose 10 in a row, but I also think this is the kind of team that will get a spark when it’s healthy again, and is capable of winning in bunches again.
boo cubs, hooray beer
you just want to be able to say
“I called it”
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Normally, that would be true....
...but I’d hate myself if I “called the Cardinals downslide.” Would much rather be the one to call it when they took off, never to look back and win the World Series. I’m just venting my worries a little bit.
by IsThisHeaven on Jun 19, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just playin around
heh
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
that series was the very definition of embarrassing
our starters were very good, while the pen & the O just crapped all over the diamond.
i knew the O would drop off losing Albert, but i was holding on to the hope that they’d be better than this. of course the Yankees O went through the same thing when ARod went on the DL. and their line up is arguably better than the Cards.
these next 3 series are going to be fun**
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
meh
Embarassing was the 20-2 game versus the Phillies. I don’t feel these games were embarassing. We pitched well, they pitched better. We couldn’t get a clutch hit, they could. There are worse results then losing 3 very close games.
boo cubs, hooray beer
our offense
was offensively bad in that series
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean the Royals series
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
as noted by lb elsewhere,
the offense has largely gone awol on plate discipline. can’t make up for albert by swinging at bad pitches and the team has been doing that more and more. it certainly seems to be the root of ludwick’s and ankiel’s problems in particular. maybe they each need a few days off. fewer walks and more strikeouts are not the way they garnered their success, so hope they regain their eyes and patience soon.
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I thought the series against the Pirates was embarrassing too.
I wouldn’t sweat it until something drastic happens that hasn’t already happened.
Josh Phelps
Question: Does anyone know why we haven’t tinkered with bringing him up? Our offense clearly needs someone with some pop in the lineup right now.
On with the (good) youth movement!
He is a terrible baseball player.
He isn’t doing well in Memphis, so unless his dad is a coach on this team, he doesn’t deserve a call up.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Interesting analysis
Here’s what Future Redbirds thinks:
http://futureredbirds.com/2008/06/19/prospects-by-position-first-base/
Josh Phelps – Josh was a pretty decent prospect for Toronto in the early part of this decade, although he was never much of a catcher, which is how he made his first appearances in the big leagues. As a 1B/DH, though, he had some promise, putting up OPS+ of 138 and 113 his first two full seasons in the league. He has bounced around a bit since then, but has hit everywhere he’s gone. His career numbers are .273/.344/.476, which is pretty respectable. The Cardinals are really a pretty bad fit for him since we have a glut of corner outfielders (Duncan and Mather) that can pull playing time at first while Albert is out. It seems to me that a trade to a team like the Royals would be perfect for all interested parties.
I couldn't catch the game
just saw the box score. So how did Flores do today? It said he gave up a hit, was the all the damage ? Please tell me there wasn’t anyone on base. It sure would be nice to see him get in a good groove out there.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
good to hear
that is at least a start. Oh yeah, he usually does pitch well with the bases empty.
That doesn’t matter though, POSITIVE THINKING!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Not unless there is something we don't know
That really makes no sense. Bring a pitcher up, he has a good game, so you immedatly send him out for a pither that just got lit up? unbelievable.
Something is really wrong with the mgt at the moment.
I'm kind of thinking we are going to start seeing the really ugly side of
Mr. La Russa very soon…..and I’m not liking Mr. Mozeliaks last few roster moves much either…..
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
I am guessing
they only needed Thompson for an emergency start. They probably sent him back down so he can continue to get stretched out as a starter if they need him again. Parisi probably goes back into the bullpen as the long reliever. He did do pretty good coming out of the pen. I am never ready to give up on someone just because they blew up during their first shot at starting in the bigs. If that was the case, there would be a ton of good pitchers that never got a real chance.
All that being said, he better be back in the pen.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Bingo
Thompson was brought up for an emergency start. He took Wellemeyer’s spot. Wellemeyer is not on the DL. Wellemeyer will be making his next start. (pending elbow, which I guess can be said about all of our starters.)
Tony had nothing but praise for the job Thompson did. And he is going down to Memphis to continue starting. Parisi is being brought up to be in the pen. If they expected to need another start for Wellemeyer they would have kept Thompson up. But they need arms for the pen. And Thompson isnt going to be ready to pitch for a few days. And going down to Memphis he’ll be able to continue working thwards being a starter and not a releaver.
It's amazing what rational thinking can accomplish
when we aren’t flying off the handle trying to find something to blame on LaRussa.
A guess
Mitchell Boggs has been pretty solid through about four innings in his starts and Parisi was pretty solid as a long reliever.
Boggs’ next start is on Saturday, Parisi’s next start in Memphis would have been on Saturday.
Maybe the Cards are thinking of going with a 7-8 inning pitching tandem between Boggs and Parisi on Saturday and every fourth or fifth day while Wainwright’s on the DL. I’d be very interested to see how that goes.
With all this movement
I’m confused as to who is actually on the 25. Is Boggs still up? Cause if he isn’t, i wouldn’t be surprised to see Parisi sent down after tomorrows game for Boggs’ start.
while the results on boggs’ starts have been ok, 11.3IP 3K 5BB 2HR is a small but sucky line
FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG
I think he could do a good job
if they told him to go out there to pitch four innings. In relief he was dialing his FB up to 96. On a 50-65 or so pitch count, he could afford to bring it like that.
And while we’re being all supporting-our-arguments-with-facts n’ shit, his stats through innings 1-4 is a small but sucky line of 8IP, 3K, 4BB, 1HR.
Oh, and just so you know, Mulder's start in Memphis isn't going real well.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Bad news on the farm.
Mulder is getting shelled in the first. 6 runs 6 hits in .2 inning.
That was a real test," Soriano said of the play. "He didn’t call the ball, I didn’t call the ball, but I saw him close to the ball and I let him get the ball."
Looky here.....we posted about the same thing at almost the same time.
You get a gold star for giving more complete information…...
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
long first inning for Mulder...
6H, 2BB, 1K, 6ER…they batted around. 34 pitches.
Not really sure what the deal is, all singles. Just giving up a ton of liners and first pitch hits. According to the radio guys, his velocity is up – no specific numbers though.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 19, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
He is getting nickled and dimed
seeing eye singles. He is missing bats, which is new.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
scoreless second for Mulder...
another two hits, but both sounded like bloop singles. He keeps jamming the hitters and they keep getting the shots to fall.
Through 2: 8H, 6ER, 2K, 2BB
by longhornscardinals on Jun 19, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
on another matter
crawford slams cubs. 5 so far in the 9th, no outs.
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
looks like same can be said for
eyre, up 7 in he 7th now (9th was typo)
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Big difference
Eyre isn’t any good. It’s easy to have an era under 1.00 when you pitch to 1 hitter a night and then hand the ball over to Carlos Marmol.
at least they are slumping
When we are. Quick. Someone tell Yost that LaRussia is batting the pitcher 1st.
just watched the highlights on the WWL
that was fun
about damn time too if i do say so myself
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
oh well
can’t all type. rays hammering cubs alright. lou is on his 3rd reliever now, but score is 9-3, sorry about the over enthusiastic cub bashing (still no outs and cliff floyd just doubled of the wall in left).
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
8-3 rays,
i need new glasses or a bigger tv
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Well I guess we picked a good time to get swept
if there ever was a godd time to get swept. Let’s just hope we can squeak 2-3 wins on this road trip and maybe we will still be afloat by the time Albert comes back.
not quite yet on the cubs, one more strike
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
rays win! rays win!
i’m going for the bigger tv
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I hope they do
Frankly, I’ll pay a lot less attention to the stadium and a lot more to the players on it.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 19, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope the Cubs don't make the playoffs
I hate watching games in THAT hideous ballpark.
Plus I really hate the fucking Cubs.
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 19, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope they do
the Rays are fun to watch and a refreshing change from the Red Sox and Yankees
boo cubs, hooray beer
It would be nice
to see a team other than Boston or New York represent the AL in the World Series. But I still think that their stadium is ugly-looking on the tube.
by cardsgirl95 on Jun 19, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
And Troy Percival is a class act
Ever hear the story about how he built his alma mater a new clubhouse during his temporary retirement.
With some help from his father and father-in-law.
That whole team is fun to watch
And that bullpen is nasty. Hopefully, Mo took notes since last year it was horrible.
I'd hate
for the Cards to get good the way the Rays had to. I could do without picking even as low as 13 again for a decade or two.
They'll never do it
They’re stuck with huge contracts in a market that is now demanding them to win it all every year. they don’t have the luxury to build from within anymore and they’re unlikely to be bad enough to stockpile top draft picks like the Rays have.
In Tampa/St. Pete, no one cared they sucked. In Chicago, they kill someone if they do.
Everyone's building from within now
They friggin’ Yankees and Red Sox are doing a heckuva job of it, too, early returns notwithstanding.
The cubs aren't
They haven’t gotten the memo. They’re farm system is in shambles and they’re loaded to the gills with bad contracts they just singned the past two years that last the better part of the next decade.
Absolutely
If they don’t win this year they are truly, truly in a world of hurt.
For that reason, I would be completely unsurprised if they made an all-out run for Sabathia, and with the state of their farm system, they’d need to give up some of their MLB offense to get it done.
If I were the Indians
and the cubs came calling, I’d start the conversation with Sean Gallagher, and then keep going. Problem is, after him, they don’t have much in the way of attractive prospects. Cedeno would probably be in the deal or Eric Patterson (I’d probably rather have Cedeno, but Lou never gives Patterson a chance to play when he’s up for me to make a definitive decision about him).
There’s no way they trade Soto, and he’s it as far as attractive players on the current roster. Lee, Soriano, Fukudome, Ramirez are all cornerstones and they won’t move ‘em. Theriot and Fontenot as well as Hoffpauir and Murton don’t really excite me much.
It’s not easy looking at that system and trying to figure out who you’d want that would realistically be available. Bobby Howry might be someone you could include, but he doesn’t help the closer situation in Cleveland and, quite frankly, they’ve been down that path with Howry before. Scott Eyre sucks. Carlos Marmol and Kerry Wood are untouchable at this point.
I wouldn’t want to be Cleveland knowing the cubs are quite possibly the best option and that’s what you have to pick from. Honestly, they’d be better off keeping C.C. and getting the draft picks as compensation.
I have friends
who are Cub fans ( they do have other redeeming qualities) that are already calling for Soriano to be traded. The same ones who were saying it was a great contract when they signed him, I laugh and say ” I told you so”
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A friend of mine
(a cub fan) didn’t necessarily like the deal when he signed, but has always held on to the idea that they could trade him in a couple of years to an al team looking for a dh.
Wishful thinking IMO.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/chicago-cubs_112114177768677294.html
they’ve paid him through 2014. 32 now, he’ll be 38 by then! i believe that players on average start declining at age 29. with his career .282/.327/.518 line, i think the middle number is the thing that’s going to kill them. league-average OBP – the dude just doesn’t walk. as he ages, his body and his bat speed will betray him as it does everyone and he’s going to be left to rely on a skill he never developed to avoid recording outs. i think it’s gonna be a long road for the cubs with him.
FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG
Looking ahead
Has anyone noticed that well over 50% of our games the rest of the year are against either 1st place teams or wild cards potentials?
It’s going to be one long ass summer
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 19, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Is that a bad thing?
This team seems to play down to competition like the Giants/Pirates/Royals, and plays better when they are playing teams that they have to “prove themselves” against. For instance, while I still think we are in for a beating in Fenway (The Sox have lost only like 7 games at home), it wouldn’t be that surprising to me if we took 2 out of 3
boo cubs, hooray beer
Long ass summer = Exhaustion
Not, “be prepared for ass whippings”. But it’s going to be a lot of “this game counts” and every loss is going to be costly.
I’m being a little liberal on who i’d think may make wildcard noise, and it shakes out as almost 2-1 in games we have left.
The Summer looks long/
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Jun 19, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
that's not so bad
this year’s team seems to play down to the level of their competition sometimes, at least by my observations. remember the Giants games?
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
this may make ya smile
i found it off digg didnt check too much of the rest of the site out… http://www.campussqueeze.com/post/12-Best-Mullets-In-Sports.aspx
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
When Jaromir Jagr cut his hair
a little piece of me died.
To visualize a cartesian graph of that sentence, imagine the planar intersect of two cones standing tip to tip.
An asterisk with a clever signature would’ve been more perspicuous than that description.
Snort.
Without hearing a velocity report
here is what I took away from Mark Mulder’s performance tonight in Memphis:
-The right side of the Memphis infield is awful. Never again let me call for Houff or Phelps to be called up. Both of them made to questionable defensive plays that cost Mark anywhere from 2-5 runs and 15-20 pitches, depending on if either actually made the play.
-His curveball isn’t there yet. It comes and goes as it pleases. Sometimes it will be nasty, sometimes it will betray him and he can’t hit the backstop with it if he tried.
-His fastball is good. It rides in on batters and has good sink. He broke some bats, gave up some seeing eye singles and in the first inning they all added up.
Without knowing if his velocity had greatly decreased, I will say that he looked better than Brad Thompson did in Memphis. He looked better than Mike Parisi did starting in St. Louis. And until this recent resurgence, he looked better than Braden Looper did for much of the year.
If he had the defense pick him up in the first inning, we’d probably be 100% considering his return in the Detroit series.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 20, 2008 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
One quick question
When you say his fastball “rides in on batters” are you talking about lefties or righties? It’s been so long since I’ve seen him pitch, I don’t remember whether he features a two-seamer or a cutter (or both?)...
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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thanks for th eupdate
i still think we rushed judgment on parisi though..not as a starter but he could have stayed in the pen IMO but not if it meant sending perez down..but then who would ya bump?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Ron Flores had a craptastic outing for Memphis tonight
1.0 IP
3 H
4 ER
3 BB
1 K
I guess the bullpen suckitis is moving down I-55
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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does he know
that he doesn’t have to copy what his brother does in regards to suckitude?
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